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UnCheney My Heart
Author: BobR    Date: 04/24/2009 12:41:55

It's got to be tough being a Cheney these days. With the recent release of the torture memos and the impending release of the torture photos, the previous administration's transgressions against the law and humanity are once again under scrutiny - and rightly so. One only need watch 15 seconds of video of Bush trying to formulate a coherent sentence to realize he was just a dupe, and Cheney was the brains behind the operation. There's also the little matter of Cheney's membership in PNAC.

Cheney may have thought (or hoped) that the economic crisis would make us all forget about him and he could scurry back under his rock (or into his Frankenstein-esque laboratory) and try to decide whether he should try again to take over the world or just eat the cyanide pill. For now, he's hoping his favorite familiar RenfieldRove can convince people they did the right thing. However, the Liberty/Libary tower story has already been debunked. It's a surprisingly weak attempt. I'm betting on the cyanide pill, or some exotic drug that makes it seem like he kicked the bucket so he can join Ken Lay in Dubai (where Halliburton moved its headquarters), while an empty box is lowered into the ground and his family weep crocodile tears.

Apparently knowing he has the warm cuddly personality of an electric eel, he's sending out his daughter in an attempt to rewrite the past and ask us all: "who ya gonna believe? Me or your lying eyes?":
"It's what our own people go through in SERE training," Cheney says. Apparently she skipped the portion of the OLC memos that explains that the techniques used on US detainees was specifically designed to go above and beyond what our troops go through in SERE training. "Naturally, I'm pretty sure that our soldiers undergo SERE training to learn what it's like to be tortured, if not withstand it. I mean, if we've reached the point where it's okay to not be outraged when our own soldiers are waterboarded, someone should say so. But either waterboarding is a tolerable technique for military interrogations in every case or it is torture and thus the provenance of sadistic regimes," Cheney quips.

"Liz, the CIA, on its own after 2005, stopped waterboarding on its own," O'Donnel retorts. "The U.S. prosecuted people for waterboarding after World War II. So to suggest there's a consensus out there that waterboarding is not torture is not in fact accurate," she states vehemently.
(more at the link, including video)

But Cheney is not the only one who's daughter is out there doing the verbal smack-down. The daughter of Senator McCain (who - as a professional longtime politician - is paradoxically against torture and against prosecuting torturers) appeared on the view to tell Cheney to just go away:

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I'm sure he'd like to. I'm sure he'd like to retire comfortably and bask in the glow of his lifelong work. Unfortunately, that glow is from the dungeon, and good Americans aren't letting it slide. A recent report indicates that Cheney wanted to create a link between 9/11 and Iraq, and was willing to use torture to get it. This is not the sort of thing one normally wants on their resumé. However, Cheney is not normal. Some question whether he is even human...

Retired Brig. General Janis Karpinski certainly wonders what sort of person he is. With the impending release of more photos ala Abu Ghraib, the "few bad apples" situation (where the Administration sold a few low-ranking grunts down the river to save their own asses) is bubbling back to the surface. Here she is castigating Cheney for scapegoating the soldiers:

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As mentioned in yesterday's blog, there is a steady drip drip of information leaking out. None of this is good for Cheney (which means it's good for the rest of us). How much more can his feeble pacemaker take? It's probably about time to start taking bets on the over/under for when he keels over for the last time.

 

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Comment by TriSec on 04/24/2009 12:58:07
Morning, comrades!



Hoping the place I went to yesterday starts calling some references soon.....but I hear that they're not big on checking, so they may not.



I'm off to my doctor today for a (hopefully) routine physical (while I still have insurance.) I had some elevated cholesterol numbers a ways back, but tried the ol' lifestyle changes. I really don't want to take any drugs.



Anyway...



Comment by Scoopster on 04/24/2009 13:10:49
Goood morning & happy Fridee! Gonna be a great weekend here in New England - the clouds have gone away, the sun's gonna warm up the whole place, and the first batch of Yankees-Red Sox games is crankin' up tonight at Fenway.

Comment by wickedpam on 04/24/2009 13:12:43
Morning :hug:

Comment by Raine on 04/24/2009 13:13:49
Good Morning! Awesome blog this morning Bobber.

Comment by Raine on 04/24/2009 13:25:34
Ok, Seriously if calling torture Enhanced Interrogation Techniques no longer makes it Torture...



Why not just Call Rape, Enhanaced Fornication Technique and say it's not not rape?

Comment by wickedpam on 04/24/2009 13:26:27
From DCRTV



Randi Rhodes To Premiere - 4/24 - Lefty talker Randi Rhodes jumps to Clear Channel's Premiere syndication arm and will host her radio show from DC. It'll run from 3 PM to 6 PM ET and be heard on stations in LA, SF, and Portland OR. No local outlet yet.....



I wonder if she's permanetly hosting from DC?

Comment by wickedpam on 04/24/2009 13:28:08
Quote by Raine:

Ok, Seriously if calling torture Enhanced Interrogation Techniques no longer makes it Torture...



Why not just Call Rape, Enhanaced Fornication Technique and say it's not not rape?






finessed language (ie semantics) doesn't make something less then what it is

Comment by Raine on 04/24/2009 13:34:01
Quote by wickedpam:

From DCRTV



Randi Rhodes To Premiere - 4/24 - Lefty talker Randi Rhodes jumps to Clear Channel's Premiere syndication arm and will host her radio show from DC. It'll run from 3 PM to 6 PM ET and be heard on stations in LA, SF, and Portland OR. No local outlet yet.....



I wonder if she's permanetly hosting from DC?


I didn't know she would be hosting from DC -- that is really awesome!

Comment by Raine on 04/24/2009 13:34:56
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Ok, Seriously if calling torture Enhanced Interrogation Techniques no longer makes it Torture...



Why not just Call Rape, Enhanaced Fornication Technique and say it's not not rape?






finessed language (ie semantics) doesn't make something less then what it is


Exactly. This is what really gets my craw with the justifiers out there.



Note that the GOP is trying to do just this.

Comment by wickedpam on 04/24/2009 13:37:00
Ok I got it from the Wiki but that was only because I don't have time to plow through documents





Torture, according to the United Nations Convention Against Torture, is:



“ any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a male or female person for such purposes as obtaining from him, or a third person, information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in, or incidental to, lawful sanctions.[1] ”



Comment by wickedpam on 04/24/2009 13:41:07
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Ok, Seriously if calling torture Enhanced Interrogation Techniques no longer makes it Torture...



Why not just Call Rape, Enhanaced Fornication Technique and say it's not not rape?






finessed language (ie semantics) doesn't make something less then what it is


Exactly. This is what really gets my craw with the justifiers out there.



Note that the GOP is trying to do just this.






"a rose by any other name would smell as sweet" people know the quote but they don't always understand what it means sadly. Its the people that are too dim to know that are the ones that seem to be the most dangerous

Comment by wickedpam on 04/24/2009 13:42:29
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

From DCRTV



Randi Rhodes To Premiere - 4/24 - Lefty talker Randi Rhodes jumps to Clear Channel's Premiere syndication arm and will host her radio show from DC. It'll run from 3 PM to 6 PM ET and be heard on stations in LA, SF, and Portland OR. No local outlet yet.....



I wonder if she's permanetly hosting from DC?


I didn't know she would be hosting from DC -- that is really awesome!




I know - pretty cool. Too bad she's not on a local station yet, and when she is she'll probably be one against a local show I listen too so I'll have to set up a listening schedule :)



Comment by starling310 on 04/24/2009 13:42:31
Mala...do we know what Radio Station/Internet Stream Randi will be on? Green960?

Comment by wickedpam on 04/24/2009 13:49:27
Quote by starling310:

Mala...do we know what Radio Station/Internet Stream Randi will be on? Green960?






KTLK has started doing ads for her this morning

Comment by starling310 on 04/24/2009 13:51:24
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by starling310:

Mala...do we know what Radio Station/Internet Stream Randi will be on? Green960?






KTLK has started doing ads for her this morning




Cool...

Of course, my company keeps blocking radio sites by the day, so I don't know if I will be able to listen today.

Thanks!

Comment by velveeta jones on 04/24/2009 13:51:40
UnCheney my Heart! Love it! (Why didn't Velveeta think of that.... damn).



Hey ya'll! I received a survey from Chase Bank on my dealings with their credit card.... Black sharpie and block print is ready to go! Need extra paper to complain fill out since they didn't leave enough room. Anyone have something they want me to add?



:D

Comment by TriSec on 04/24/2009 13:53:39
Just got a call....they love me, they really love me!



Back to Multiplan to meet with the hiring manager Monday am; he was in NYC on business this week.





Comment by Scoopster on 04/24/2009 13:54:00
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Ok, Seriously if calling torture Enhanced Interrogation Techniques no longer makes it Torture...



Why not just Call Rape, Enhanaced Fornication Technique and say it's not not rape?






finessed language (ie semantics) doesn't make something less then what it is


Exactly. This is what really gets my craw with the justifiers out there.



Note that the GOP is trying to do just this.


The previously-mentioned sports radio jackasses up in Boston said this morning that we should be awarding medals of honor to the people who committed and ordered these acts of torture. Then also started whining about a possible sales tax increase in MA from 5% to 7%. Then they bitched about a workers rally for the Boston Globe that's being held sometimein the next few days, and quipped about how none of these workers bitched out Ted Kennedy when he "was lobbying to have Rupert Murdoch's Boston Herald shut down".



:grumble: fucking losers.. if my cell battery wasn't dead I'd have called them live on the air and told their whiny asses to go to Texas where they belong.

Comment by wickedpam on 04/24/2009 13:55:16
Quote by TriSec:

Just got a call....they love me, they really love me!



Back to Multiplan to meet with the hiring manager Monday am; he was in NYC on business this week.











Comment by Raine on 04/24/2009 13:56:15
Quote by starling310:

Mala...do we know what Radio Station/Internet Stream Randi will be on? Green960?




Green was the station that broke the story first I think yesterday.







Comment by wickedpam on 04/24/2009 13:57:13
Quote by starling310:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by starling310:

Mala...do we know what Radio Station/Internet Stream Randi will be on? Green960?






KTLK has started doing ads for her this morning




Cool...

Of course, my company keeps blocking radio sites by the day, so I don't know if I will be able to listen today.

Thanks!






If KTLK has it I'm sure that Green960 will, hopefully that gives you 2 options



Why are they blocking radio stations anyway - keeps people engaged while they work

Comment by Raine on 04/24/2009 13:58:41










Tri!
!!!

Comment by starling310 on 04/24/2009 13:59:51
Quote by wickedpam:

Why are they blocking radio stations anyway - keeps people engaged while they work






Pfft...

Because they're :: corky sinclair :: "Bastard people!"



Comment by TriSec on 04/24/2009 14:02:56
Off to the doctor now.



Further updates as the situation develops.



Film at 11. (probably NSFW. )

Comment by Scoopster on 04/24/2009 14:07:27
Quote by TriSec:

Just got a call....they love me, they really love me!



Back to Multiplan to meet with the hiring manager Monday am; he was in NYC on business this week.



:bouncer:


Comment by starling310 on 04/24/2009 14:08:40
YAY TRI!!!!





Comment by Raine on 04/24/2009 14:15:33
Comment by Raine on 04/24/2009 14:18:20
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by starling310:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by starling310:

Mala...do we know what Radio Station/Internet Stream Randi will be on? Green960?






KTLK has started doing ads for her this morning




Cool...

Of course, my company keeps blocking radio sites by the day, so I don't know if I will be able to listen today.

Thanks!






If KTLK has it I'm sure that Green960 will, hopefully that gives you 2 options



Why are they blocking radio stations anyway - keeps people engaged while they work


Green 960 Announced this yesterday.

Comment by BobR on 04/24/2009 14:19:04
Quote by TriSec:

Just got a call....they love me, they really love me!



Back to Multiplan to meet with the hiring manager Monday am; he was in NYC on business this week.





:clap: :pray:

Comment by Raine on 04/24/2009 14:21:48
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by starling310:

Mala...do we know what Radio Station/Internet Stream Randi will be on? Green960?






KTLK has started doing ads for her this morning
I am hoping that Seatle will pick her up as well. I still hear her in their promos.



Comment by Raine on 04/24/2009 14:29:22
There is the Whole other rub: These people were not considered War Prisoners.



They were enemy Combatants.

Comment by Scoopster on 04/24/2009 14:37:47
Quote by Raine:

DOJ prosecuted a Texas Sheriff for Waterboarding in 1983...



Who was president then??


[republiasshat]IT WAS THAT LIBRUL BITCH ANN RICHARDS![/republiasshat]

Comment by Raine on 04/24/2009 14:45:03
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Raine:

DOJ prosecuted a Texas Sheriff for Waterboarding in 1983...



Who was president then??


[republiasshat]IT WAS THAT LIBRUL BITCH ANN RICHARDS![/republiasshat]






Yeah, I am sure that they would try that totally ignoring the simple fact that the DOJ is a FEDERAL thing and St. Ronnie was the President then.

Comment by livingonli on 04/24/2009 14:50:31
Good morning everyone.



Fingers crossed for you, Tri.

Comment by wickedpam on 04/24/2009 14:52:28
Quote by Raine:

There is the Whole other rub: These people were not considered War Prisoners.



They were enemy Combatants.






again its semantics - they mean the same thing in a war situation and since they have declared a "war on terror" and these people were taken into custody under this umbrella they are still war prisoners no matter what you call them

Comment by wickedpam on 04/24/2009 14:54:46
Morning Liv :)

Comment by clintster on 04/24/2009 14:56:47
Comment by wickedpam on 04/24/2009 14:57:56


Comment by BobR on 04/24/2009 15:02:14
As soon as I saw that practically every FAUX News show was going with the Liberty/Library tower story that it was going to be the talking point du jour. The fact that it's been debunked means little to the sheeple that want to believe it's true.

Comment by livingonli on 04/24/2009 15:02:28
Right-wing callers continue to display their ignorance.

Comment by velveeta jones on 04/24/2009 15:08:49
Quote by TriSec:

Just got a call....they love me, they really love me!



Back to Multiplan to meet with the hiring manager Monday am; he was in NYC on business this week.





Well, I am NOT surprised. You would be a GREAT employee, they would be lucky to have you Tri.



Yay!! :clap:



Comment by Raine on 04/24/2009 15:17:54
Comment by Raine on 04/24/2009 15:23:14
Comment by livingonli on 04/24/2009 15:30:06
Heads up. Tonight, Lizz Winstead will be on The Ed Show. Damn, he's getting good guests and I keep trying to ignore the show.

Comment by wickedpam on 04/24/2009 15:32:28
Quote by livingonli:

Heads up. Tonight, Lizz Winstead will be on The Ed Show. Damn, he's getting good guests and I keep trying to ignore the show.






too bad he's such an ass

Comment by wickedpam on 04/24/2009 15:34:17
hey did they ever say what happened to Jim?

Comment by livingonli on 04/24/2009 15:36:08
Quote by wickedpam:

hey did they ever say what happened to Jim?


Nope. I guess we will hear his explanation on Monday. Maybe it's just something stupid like he overslept.

Comment by wickedpam on 04/24/2009 15:39:57
"Gays get in you hair" :lol:

Comment by wickedpam on 04/24/2009 15:54:45
We can't be serious all the time....

Comment by starling310 on 04/24/2009 15:55:59
My name is Barbara and I have a stick up my ASS!

Comment by livingonli on 04/24/2009 15:56:54
I really want to tell the credit card companies to go fuck themselves since they put me where I am financially right now. Not to mention the fact that I am making less money than I used to.

Comment by Scoopster on 04/24/2009 16:14:07
Ok back.. lots of activity today at the office. I think the warm temps are thawing out the hearts of hospitality marketing folks!



Mornin' Liv.. you're up mighty early today!

Comment by wickedpam on 04/24/2009 16:22:36
Quote by starling310:

My name is Barbara and I have a stick up my ASS!






*snort* :spit:

Comment by Raine on 04/24/2009 16:23:58
Love me some Bernie...

Comment by wickedpam on 04/24/2009 16:25:13
Quote by livingonli:

I really want to tell the credit card companies to go fuck themselves since they put me where I am financially right now. Not to mention the fact that I am making less money than I used to.






have you tried to talk to them yet? I know it's like beating your head against a wall but if you persist then maybe you can start wearing them down.



I have some hope that there will be some legislation put back in place to help the consumer. If there isn't then no body will able to buy anything at anytime.

Comment by BobR on 04/24/2009 16:30:59
Quote by livingonli:

I really want to tell the credit card companies to go fuck themselves since they put me where I am financially right now. Not to mention the fact that I am making less money than I used to.


Your first step should be STOP USING YOUR CREDIT CARDS.



Beyond that, I still recommend CCCS if you haven't gone that route already. They can get your rates reduced way down and stop the penalties and phone calls. Reducing the rates and stopping the penalties is one of the best financial things you can do for yourself.



But you have to STOP USING YOUR CREDIT CARDS.



Comment by livingonli on 04/24/2009 16:50:03
Quote by BobR:

Quote by livingonli:

I really want to tell the credit card companies to go fuck themselves since they put me where I am financially right now. Not to mention the fact that I am making less money than I used to.


Your first step should be STOP USING YOUR CREDIT CARDS.



Beyond that, I still recommend CCCS if you haven't gone that route already. They can get your rates reduced way down and stop the penalties and phone calls. Reducing the rates and stopping the penalties is one of the best financial things you can do for yourself.



But you have to STOP USING YOUR CREDIT CARDS.



I have definitely not been using the credit cards. My problem right now is I am not making enough money to just pay my basics. My rent is very high and takes a big chunk of my check. So, in addition to getting my cards paid off, I may need to find another place to live (if I can find one cheaper) and still find some way of getting another income in,

Comment by livingonli on 04/24/2009 16:58:14
Comment by TriSec on 04/24/2009 17:00:53
Hey folks. Back from the ol' doctor.....I might have a wee little thyroid issue. (It runs in the family.) Going back for bloodwork on Tuesday....Cholesterol screen, too. And my BP was up, but I attribute that more to temporary factors. (and the Red Cross, when I do platelet donations, has wildly different numbers than the doctor's office picked up...)



And Professional Staffing Group called with another lead; phone screen next week. (And the company was suitably impressed that they told the agency they were contemplating just making the interview for a permanent position, instead of a temp.)





Comment by wickedpam on 04/24/2009 17:17:40
oh wow Tri, when it rains it pours - in a good way :D

Comment by wickedpam on 04/24/2009 17:46:37
Sam's going to be on with Thom - just fyi :)

Comment by Raine on 04/24/2009 17:48:35
Sam seder coming up on Thom?



I hope they talk about what Tedisco tried to do with Sams Vote in NY!!!

Comment by Raine on 04/24/2009 17:52:52
Oh Come back Sam!!!

Comment by Raine on 04/24/2009 17:54:35
I used to Live in Columbia County...

Comment by BobR on 04/24/2009 17:55:46
Quote by TriSec:

Hey folks. Back from the ol' doctor.....I might have a wee little thyroid issue. (It runs in the family.) Going back for bloodwork on Tuesday....Cholesterol screen, too. And my BP was up, but I attribute that more to temporary factors. (and the Red Cross, when I do platelet donations, has wildly different numbers than the doctor's office picked up...)



And Professional Staffing Group called with another lead; phone screen next week. (And the company was suitably impressed that they told the agency they were contemplating just making the interview for a permanent position, instead of a temp.)





Thyroid problems are not uncommon (I have it too). It means taking an inexpensive pill every morning for the rest of your life. It's no biggie...



Getting your BP checked when your concerned about your job prospects might not be the best timing!

Comment by Raine on 04/24/2009 17:58:50
Tedisco Doesn't Even Reside in the 20th District!!1

Comment by wickedpam on 04/24/2009 17:59:51
Quote by BobR:

Quote by TriSec:

Hey folks. Back from the ol' doctor.....I might have a wee little thyroid issue. (It runs in the family.) Going back for bloodwork on Tuesday....Cholesterol screen, too. And my BP was up, but I attribute that more to temporary factors. (and the Red Cross, when I do platelet donations, has wildly different numbers than the doctor's office picked up...)



And Professional Staffing Group called with another lead; phone screen next week. (And the company was suitably impressed that they told the agency they were contemplating just making the interview for a permanent position, instead of a temp.)





Thyroid problems are not uncommon (I have it too). It means taking an inexpensive pill every morning for the rest of your life. It's no biggie...



Getting your BP checked when your concerned about your job prospects might not be the best timing!






me three on the thyroid thing so you definatly aren't alone with that :)

Comment by Raine on 04/24/2009 18:09:27
They are Fastracking the Health care bill! And it gets better!



The agreement calls for the same procedure, known as reconciliation, to be used to try to pass Obama’s proposal to cut federal subsidies to private providers of student loans.



The parliamentary tactic would allow the measures to pass the Senate with a simply majority rather than the 60 votes that would be needed to overcome stalling tactics by Republicans. Democrats control the chamber with 58 votes.



Comment by livingonli on 04/24/2009 18:24:00
God I have to remember to ge to the internet stream since only the first hour of Thom is live on satellite radio.

Comment by Raine on 04/24/2009 18:34:28
Conficker Virus Was not a false Alarm, It seems.

Comment by Raine on 04/24/2009 18:34:29
Conficker Virus Was not a false Alarm, It seems.

Comment by livingonli on 04/24/2009 18:39:06
Off to the salt mine for Rangers Game 5. Can they finish off the Caps tonight?

Comment by wickedpam on 04/24/2009 19:21:30
Quote by livingonli:

Off to the salt mine for Rangers Game 5. Can they finish off the Caps tonight?






gasp! No!



Caps are the only good team in town.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 04/24/2009 21:31:05
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by wickedpam:

hey did they ever say what happened to Jim?


Nope. I guess we will hear his explanation on Monday. Maybe it's just something stupid like he overslept.




Maybe since he pulled "double duty" when Steph was out, he took today off?

Comment by Scoopster on 04/24/2009 23:11:51
OMGGGGGGGG!! :rofl:











VerY ThIn IcccE!

Comment by livingonli on 04/25/2009 06:21:30
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by livingonli:

Off to the salt mine for Rangers Game 5. Can they finish off the Caps tonight?






gasp! No!



Caps are the only good team in town.


Did you have something to do with 4-0 win? The Caps do live to fight again Sunday Afternoon (game is on NBC).