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Sliding towards Chaos
Author: BobR    Date: 05/29/2009 04:17:37

With all the recent political kerfluffle over SCOTUS nominee Sotomayor, a quickly deteriorating situation in SE Asia is getting scant coverage. It began with a nuclear test on Monday and is (as of this writing) on the verge of intense military action. The common perception for years has been that WWIII would begin in the Middle East; if some sort of diplomacy isn't pulled out of a hat soon, that perception may be proven false.

The slide down that slippery slope began in earnest yesterday with the announcement from N. Korea that they were renouncing the truce that's been keeping the peace there since 1953:
North Korea says it has abandoned the truce that ended the Korean war, amid rising tension in the region.

It blamed its decision on South Korea joining a US-led initiative to search ships for nuclear weapons.

It said the South's actions were a "declaration of war", and pledged to attack if its ships were stopped.
[...]
Meanwhile, South Korean news reports say that steam has been seen coming from a plant at the North's main nuclear facility, a sign that it has made good on its threat to restart efforts to make weapons-grade plutonium.
[...]
The immediate cause of North Korea's actions, it said, was South Korea's announcement on Tuesday that it would definitely join the Proliferation Security Initiative (PSI) - a US-led campaign to search ships carrying suspicious cargoes to prevent trafficking of weapons of mass destruction.

Joining the PSI "is a natural obligation", South Korean Foreign Minister Yu Myung-hwan told reporters. "It will help control North Korea's development of dangerous material."

But North Korea's response has been unequivocal.

"Any hostile act against our peaceful vessels, including search and seizure, will be considered an unpardonable infringement on our sovereignty," a spokesman for the North's army told KCNA.

"We will immediately respond with a powerful military strike."

In case that wasn't clear enough, here's some more:
On Wednesday Pyongyang renounced the 1953 armistice and the following day warned U.S. forces against advancing into its territory.

"The northward invasion scheme by the U.S. and the South Korean puppet regime has exceeded the alarming level," the North's main Rodong Sinmun newspaper said in a commentary carried by the official Korean Central News Agency. "A minor accidental skirmish can lead to a nuclear war."
(bold-face mine)

So as N. Korea flexes its muscle, the U.S. has been responding in kind. The military is talking about preparations for war:
The Army’s top military officer on Thursday said that his service would be well-prepared to fight in a conventional war against North Korea should it ever get to that.

“We have a combat seasoned force,” said Gen. George Casey, the Army’s chief of staff, in a discussion hosted by the Center for Strategic and International Studies.
[...]
“It’s a combat seasoned army that can change gears, but it is not as fast we would like,” he said, adding that the Air Force and Navy, already with a good footprint in the region, would be able to stage a quick response.

Note that the bold-face is mine. After the hell-hole that Iraq became, why is any military even planning for a "conventional war"? Iraq has been compared to Viet Nam for a reason. Is there any reason to think that another war in Korea would be any different?

It's unknown at this point where Russia - who supported the Viet Cong during that conflict - will sit if this gets violent. According to John Kerry, however, China has our back:
US Senator John Kerry said China will support UN Security Council action on North Korea and agrees the isolated regime must face the consequences of this week's nuclear test.

"As for the UN Security Council action on North Korea, Foreign Minister Yang (Jiechi) agreed with us that North Korea's actions were wrong and that there need to be consequences," Kerry told journalists in Beijing.

At least - they're on our side as it regards multilateral sanctions against N. Korea. If this gets ugly, though, who can we really count on? Will this - once again - be the U.S. as the sole provider (no pun intended) of military support for S. Korea?

One thing is clear - this is a tinderbox just waiting for a "Gulf of Tonkin" match to set it all off. What that is (and whether it's done intentionally to start a conflict) remains to be seen...

 

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Comment by wickedpam on 05/29/2009 12:47:27
Morning :hug:





Jeezz... this is what happens when you dont' talk to someone for years and they want attention. Thanks George

Comment by Scoopster on 05/29/2009 13:29:16
Morning all & Happy Fridee! :bounce:



Ruh roh.. who the heck let this guy out of the nuthouse? BTW for an extra added surprise rumor, check out the comments.

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2009 13:46:20
Ok-- I read the blog, and now I want to go back under the covers...

Comment by Scoopster on 05/29/2009 13:52:18
Say does anyone want admin access in the no-Newt group on Facecrack? I'm still kinda new to this sorta thing and could use the help/guidance.

Comment by wickedpam on 05/29/2009 13:55:09
from DCRTV



Waterboarded Mancow OKs It For Terrorists - 5/29 - After being waterboarded live last week during his Chicago-based radio show, the clearly shaken Mancow Muller (right) said: "I don't want to say this, but it is absolutely torture." In a follow-up statement, Muller clarifies that while he believes the process fits the definition of torture he still believes that it is a valuable tool in our arsenal that should continue to be used on terrorists. "Would I waterboard a terrorist if I knew it would save my childrens' lives? Yes, and so would everyone else if it meant saving their childrens' lives," says Mancow, heard mornings on DC's WTNT (570 AM). More from R&R.....



asshat

Comment by Scoopster on 05/29/2009 14:02:24
Quote by wickedpam:

from DCRTV



Waterboarded Mancow OKs It For Terrorists - 5/29 - After being waterboarded live last week during his Chicago-based radio show, the clearly shaken Mancow Muller (right) said: "I don't want to say this, but it is absolutely torture." In a follow-up statement, Muller clarifies that while he believes the process fits the definition of torture he still believes that it is a valuable tool in our arsenal that should continue to be used on terrorists. "Would I waterboard a terrorist if I knew it would save my childrens' lives? Yes, and so would everyone else if it meant saving their childrens' lives," says Mancow, heard mornings on DC's WTNT (570 AM). More from R&R.....



asshat


Well then that's cinches it. He said it's torture loud and clear, and now he's saying he approves of torture loud & clear. Is this really where these wingnuts want the debate to go - towards the legalization of torture?



...and btw from the clips they played on KO's show of Mancow's waterboarding, it wasn't done properly. The cloth needs to be tightly covering the mouth & nose.

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2009 14:09:20
Quote by Scoopster:

Morning all & Happy Fridee! :bounce:



Ruh roh.. who the heck let this guy out of the nuthouse? BTW for an extra added surprise rumor, check out the comments.


What am I missing?

Comment by Scoopster on 05/29/2009 14:25:23
Comment by Raine on 05/29/2009 14:39:24
Comment by Scoopster on 05/29/2009 14:52:27
Oooh oooh! New DMB album is up on preview here : http://www.pandora.com/davematthewsband

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2009 15:09:22
http://www.whitehouse.gov/Live/ Prez is speaking...

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2009 15:14:08
Wow -- Obama just admitted that from August to October of last year -- his campaign was hacked. He said all information was kept secure, in regarding to campaign donations -- but that they gained access to policy papers - and worked closely with the CIA and FBI on this issue.

Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2009 15:14:46
Bon matin mes amis.



So, what's up?

Comment by wickedpam on 05/29/2009 15:18:42
Not much wuz up wit chew :p

Comment by Scoopster on 05/29/2009 15:19:28
That's quite an interesting revelation the Prez had.. I wonder if the DOJ would be looking into it?

Comment by Scoopster on 05/29/2009 15:19:52
Morning Liv! Howza 'bout them Yankees lately?

Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2009 15:22:32
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by wickedpam:

from DCRTV



Waterboarded Mancow OKs It For Terrorists - 5/29 - After being waterboarded live last week during his Chicago-based radio show, the clearly shaken Mancow Muller (right) said: "I don't want to say this, but it is absolutely torture." In a follow-up statement, Muller clarifies that while he believes the process fits the definition of torture he still believes that it is a valuable tool in our arsenal that should continue to be used on terrorists. "Would I waterboard a terrorist if I knew it would save my childrens' lives? Yes, and so would everyone else if it meant saving their childrens' lives," says Mancow, heard mornings on DC's WTNT (570 AM). More from R&R.....



asshat


Well then that's cinches it. He said it's torture loud and clear, and now he's saying he approves of torture loud & clear. Is this really where these wingnuts want the debate to go - towards the legalization of torture?



...and btw from the clips they played on KO's show of Mancow's waterboarding, it wasn't done properly. The cloth needs to be tightly covering the mouth & nose.


Have these people been watching too much 24?

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2009 15:22:36
Quote by livingonli:

Bon matin mes amis.



So, what's up?


Hey--- Just listening to the President.

Comment by wickedpam on 05/29/2009 15:35:03
Melissa!

Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2009 15:56:25
Americans for Prosperity is indeed an oxymoron.



I wish we had Canadian style healthcare. The problem there has been the cutbacks under the Tories.

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2009 15:56:46
YAY! Hal Sparks is going to be filling in for Momma and the mooks next month when they go on vacation!

Comment by wickedpam on 05/29/2009 16:11:44
yeah!

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2009 16:24:15
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by wickedpam:

from DCRTV



Waterboarded Mancow OKs It For Terrorists - 5/29 - After being waterboarded live last week during his Chicago-based radio show, the clearly shaken Mancow Muller (right) said: "I don't want to say this, but it is absolutely torture." In a follow-up statement, Muller clarifies that while he believes the process fits the definition of torture he still believes that it is a valuable tool in our arsenal that should continue to be used on terrorists. "Would I waterboard a terrorist if I knew it would save my childrens' lives? Yes, and so would everyone else if it meant saving their childrens' lives," says Mancow, heard mornings on DC's WTNT (570 AM). More from R&R.....



asshat


Well then that's cinches it. He said it's torture loud and clear, and now he's saying he approves of torture loud & clear. Is this really where these wingnuts want the debate to go - towards the legalization of torture?



...and btw from the clips they played on KO's show of Mancow's waterboarding, it wasn't done properly. The cloth needs to be tightly covering the mouth & nose.
Check this out.



I happen to agree with the first comment there. The RW is pushing back.
Oh please. This is a lame-assed effort by un-American right-wing sadists to neutralize the discrediting of their cowardly, candy-assed arm chair support of war crimes which has flowed from Mancow's water-boarding.




Comment by Raine on 05/29/2009 16:31:33
Just for old times sake...









Ahhh--- good times, good times....

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2009 16:34:12
http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/political-pictures-barack-obama-the-obamamobile.jpg


Comment by Will in Chicago on 05/29/2009 17:06:04
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by wickedpam:

from DCRTV



Waterboarded Mancow OKs It For Terrorists - 5/29 - After being waterboarded live last week during his Chicago-based radio show, the clearly shaken Mancow Muller (right) said: "I don't want to say this, but it is absolutely torture." In a follow-up statement, Muller clarifies that while he believes the process fits the definition of torture he still believes that it is a valuable tool in our arsenal that should continue to be used on terrorists. "Would I waterboard a terrorist if I knew it would save my childrens' lives? Yes, and so would everyone else if it meant saving their childrens' lives," says Mancow, heard mornings on DC's WTNT (570 AM). More from R&R.....



asshat


Well then that's cinches it. He said it's torture loud and clear, and now he's saying he approves of torture loud & clear. Is this really where these wingnuts want the debate to go - towards the legalization of torture?



...and btw from the clips they played on KO's show of Mancow's waterboarding, it wasn't done properly. The cloth needs to be tightly covering the mouth & nose.
Check this out.



I happen to agree with the first comment there. The RW is pushing back.
Oh please. This is a lame-assed effort by un-American right-wing sadists to neutralize the discrediting of their cowardly, candy-assed arm chair support of war crimes which has flowed from Mancow's water-boarding.








Excellent post, BobR! I hope that everyone is doing well. (I have been doing a lot of stuff around the apartment at night, hence the weird schedule of my appearances here.)



Raine, the GOP has to push back because selling fear is all that they have left. The GOP has failed on the economy, failed in Iraq and Afghanistan, so now it must present fear as the justification for any support of its policies. Somewhere, Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt and Dwight Eisenhower must be stunned at what happened to their party. (Would any of them have a place there now with their views?)

Comment by Scoopster on 05/29/2009 17:07:20
Would any of them want it?

Comment by Scoopster on 05/29/2009 17:09:20
Comment by Raine on 05/29/2009 17:32:59
Comment by Scoopster on 05/29/2009 17:43:16




...and sometimes ya need a little help to get dem bacon bra & panties off. :rofl:

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2009 17:46:33


Comment by Raine on 05/29/2009 17:48:10
Quote by Scoopster:





...and sometimes ya need a little help to get dem bacon bra & panties off. :rofl:
No kidding!



Comment by Scoopster on 05/29/2009 18:50:58
Comment by Raine on 05/29/2009 18:59:00
Comment by Raine on 05/29/2009 19:00:22
Quote by Scoopster:

Oh. My. God.





Where the hell are women's groups on this shit???? GODA** IT ALL!

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2009 19:07:58


It's Friday ya Bastahds!

:bounce:

:bouncer: :bouncer:



:boobs:



:bouncer: :bouncer:

:bounce:



BOUNCE WHAT YA GOT!



Comment by starling310 on 05/29/2009 19:09:49


Comment by BobR on 05/29/2009 19:10:45
:boobs2: :boobs2:

:bounce:

:prince:

:guitar: :guitar: :guitar:

:Beer:

:guitar: :guitar: :guitar:

:prince:

:bounce:

:boobs2: :boobs2:


Comment by Scoopster on 05/29/2009 19:11:57






Comment by Raine on 05/29/2009 19:16:21
Very impressed with the bounce today peeps!

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2009 19:25:50
A Latino KKK?



PLEEEZ.... these attacks, ALL of them from Rush comparing her to David Duke, to Tancredo and to Liddy -- it is just WAY the fuck over the top.



Pure attacks on Women and minorities. That is now officially your conservative policy. With the exception of the feeble denouncement by John Cornyn, NOT ONE GOPr has spoken up.



I would really like to see at the very least Snow or Collins to say something...

Comment by Scoopster on 05/29/2009 19:45:23
Niiice.. we're diggin up stuff from the Congressional Record from when Newt was thrown out.

Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2009 20:14:13
I think I conked out for a spell today. I have an appointment with a credit counselor in a week and a half which should work on getting my debt down.

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2009 20:45:54
Quote by livingonli:

I think I conked out for a spell today. I have an appointment with a credit counselor in a week and a half which should work on getting my debt down.


That's great Liv!

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2009 20:55:00
Sick F*cks. Another Video game degrading women. What the HELL is Amazon's problem?

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2009 21:24:55
:huh: who is this loony Randi is playing?

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2009 21:26:09
I need this sound clip... He called her Sonia Mayor,as well ad a marxist socialist -- Evidently, he sat in for Wiener Savage.

Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2009 22:14:13
Right-wingers are the craziest people.



BTW, Lizz will be on The Ed Show tonight so I have to tune in during the second half.

Comment by Scoopster on 05/29/2009 22:49:03
Ugh.. man I had Ed on but I had to change the channel cuz I couldn't stand listening to that moron Laura Ingraham. :puke: