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Author: TriSec    Date: 06/02/2009 10:26:20

Good Morning.

Today is our 2,267th day in Iraq.

We'll start this morning as we always do, with the latest casualty figures from Iraq and Afghanistan, courtesy of Antiwar.com:

American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4306
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 4167
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3845
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3447
Since Obama Inauguration (1/20/09): 78

Other Coalition Troops - Iraq: 318
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 694
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 472
Journalists - Iraq: 138
Contractor Employee Deaths - Iraq: 1,306


We find this morning's cost of war passing through:
$863, 658, 650, 000. 00




The long-running battle over our soldiers' mental health continues unabated today. Fortunately, I have no real first-hand experience in this area. But seeing what is going on with diagnosing our troops is slowly but surely driving an interest to learn more...particularly something called "under-diagnosing" in the trade. It's rare in the commercial insurance world, as it usually results in a smaller payout (and is fraudulent), but as you'll see from this story posted at HuffPo, there are certain advantages to the practice for those that need it.


Doctors in the VA are under pressure NOT to diagnose PTSD, because a diagnosis of PTSD leads to increased benefits and disqualifies the soldier from re-deployment. Bodies are at a premium here, folks, with many soldiers being deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan numerous times. Hardball on msnbc.com reports that the VA docs are giving out the diagnosis of Adjustment Disorder instead. That's like saying the soldier who shot up his comrades at an Iraqi mental health clinic was just having a bad day.

A 2006 study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association reports that nearly 74,000 former soldiers who returned from Iraq and Afghanistan between 2003 and 2004 sought VA treatment for mental disorders in the year after they came home. Many of those same men and women were sent back to the combat zone. The current figures must be staggering. Keep in mind that 30% of the army has PTSD or TBI (traumatic brain injury). According to Mark Benjamin who was being interviewed by Chris Matthews on Hardball, that means 30% of the army has no business carrying a gun. If we were to admit the truth of this, how would our military survive? But if we don't, how will our military survive once they are "safe" at home?

Paul Rieckhoff, a U.S. Army veteran, who led an infantry platoon on more than 1,000 combat patrols in Bagdhdad, founder of the nonprofit Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA) says "The reality is that mental health issues are probably one of the greatest threats facing Iraq and Afghanistan veterans. But our country is not ready to care for them. Contrary to what our president keeps telling us, we're not a country at war. Less than 1 percent of this country is at war. Our military is at war. Our military families are at war. Everyone else is shopping or watching American Idol."

I couldn't agree with Paul more. What are you doing to show our military personnel that you support them? Are you making sacrifices so that our freedom can be protected? Even if you don't agree with the war, you can still support the sacrifices made by these men and women. As a citizen you need to ask how you can be involved. If you don't have money, volunteer your time. If you don't have time, then donate money, goods, or services. If you don't have any resources whatsoever, write a letter to congress supporting more programs specifically designed to increase benefits to those combat vets who need them, be they mental health or otherwise.

You see the problem is that we don't treat our military personnel as the Warrior class they are. We treat them as expendable soldiers, and once we are done with them, they are of no use to us. You need only to look at the statistics of alcohol and drug abuse, homelessness, spousal and child abuse, depression, anxiety, divorce and suicide among veterans to see the truth....



There's another story that just won't go away. If you or I hired an electrician, and he miswired our house, and somebody was electrocuted in the shower, there would be investigations, arrests, fines, and probable loss of license. When Uncle Sam hires an electrician, and soldiers die in a war zone......the electrician gets a bonus.


WASHINGTON - Military contractor KBR Inc. was paid $83.4 million in bonuses for electrical work in Iraq - much of the money coming even after that work was declared to be shoddy, a senator said yesterday.

Senator Byron Dorgan, a North Dakota Democrat, said he learned of the bonuses from Pentagon documents. Dorgan chairs the Democrats' Policy Committee, which examined at a hearing the electrocution deaths of US troops in Iraq.

At least three troops have been electrocuted while showering in Iraq, and others have been injured and killed in other electrical incidents. KBR, which has the responsibility of maintaining electrical work in tens of thousands of US facilities in Iraq, has denied any responsibility in the deaths.

But Dorgan said evidence suggests KBR's work was involved in some of the deaths. He said $34 million in bonuses was paid three months after Green Beret Staff Sergeant Ryan Maseth, 24, was electrocuted while showering in his barracks in Iraq on Jan. 2, 2008. Maseth's family has sued KBR, alleging wrongful death.

KBR was once a subsidiary of Halliburton, the oil services company headed by Dick Cheney before his two terms as vice president.

Jim Childs, an electrical inspector hired by the Army to help inspect US-run facilities in Iraq testified that 90 percent of the wiring done by KBR in newly constructed buildings was done improperly. He said that means that an estimated 70,000 buildings where troops live and work in Iraq were not up to code.


But the bigger question is....Am I missing something here? My father was a "betweener", serving in the peacetime army in between Korea and Vietnam. When he was there, he was trained as a medical technician, and left the service with a useful skill that he could have used in the civilian world. (He wound up being a musician.) But I've known plenty of people who have gone in-service and have come out as mechanics, electronics technicians, EMTs, and a whole host of other useful skills. Including electrician. Seems to me that a military 'career' now teaches you only one skill. How to kill people. (Yes, a necessary component of the military. But less than 1/4 of active duty personnel every fire a gun in anger; the rest are support. Are they all doing paperwork now?)

Very curious, indeed.


 

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Comment by Random on 06/02/2009 12:01:03
So I'm reading Wonkette, and i find this story

And i just loved this comment.

read all before getting pissed.



Jesus you libtards, if you weren’t in the tank, drinking the Kool Aid, you’d be making this very point. Don’t you miss the surprise and abandon of the past administration? Obamatron is always on message and what do we get? No invasions, no undisclosed locations, nobody shot in the face. Just governing, competence and noun verb agreement.


Comment by velveeta jones on 06/02/2009 12:41:45
KBR got a ........ bonus?







:thud:

Comment by Scoopster on 06/02/2009 12:56:13
Quote by Random:

So I'm reading Wonkette, and i find this story

And i just loved this comment.

read all before getting pissed.



Jesus you libtards, if you weren’t in the tank, drinking the Kool Aid, you’d be making this very point. Don’t you miss the surprise and abandon of the past administration? Obamatron is always on message and what do we get? No invasions, no undisclosed locations, nobody shot in the face. Just governing, competence and noun verb agreement.


:rofl: Oh man that's great..



And excellent opening as always Tri Too bad Halliburton/KBR moved its operations out of the country so it's tougher to hold them accountable for this shit.



Comment by velveeta jones on 06/02/2009 13:07:06
According to Chris, Steph will be in this morning. :clap:

Comment by wickedpam on 06/02/2009 13:08:06
Morning :hug:

Comment by Scoopster on 06/02/2009 13:10:57
Comment by Random on 06/02/2009 13:16:14
How is everyone?

Comment by Random on 06/02/2009 13:20:30


Hm...Florida county?

Whatever, Florida's law enforcement sucks, hard.

and honestly, i don't care, it's not that draconian.

you sign a sheet saying what game you're putting in, and put a thumbprint on it.

not that big of a deal.

Comment by wickedpam on 06/02/2009 13:20:50
Not bad - you have a tag on 9th btw ;)

Comment by wickedpam on 06/02/2009 13:22:08






sounds like it's prime for a lawsuit of some kind

Comment by velveeta jones on 06/02/2009 13:24:52




Okay. THAT is the dumbest story of the week. Wow! I would never give my fingerprints to sell my old DVD's etc.... Hey "Yard Sale", Duh.



Comment by Random on 06/02/2009 13:26:59
It's basically been a law to do that when going to a pawnshop to sell your junk here for awhile.

The idiots commenting on the story should, take off their foil hats and think rationally.

Comment by wickedpam on 06/02/2009 13:37:36
why does the show feel like I stepped in half way through?

Comment by Random on 06/02/2009 13:47:49
I'm keeping my mouth shut now.



Comment by Raine on 06/02/2009 13:57:02
Random, I have been wondering where you been lately!



Hi everyone else! I could use a few good vibes for my Oma. Seems as tho she fell yesterday and has a hairline fracture in her pelvis.







Comment by wickedpam on 06/02/2009 14:02:57
Oh no! ~~~~positive Oma vibes!~~~~~~~

Comment by Random on 06/02/2009 14:08:15
Random likes his job.

only here does he see Dukakis and Buchanan in the same day.

P.S. Buchanan in the 70's looks like a swarmy little bastard.

Comment by starling310 on 06/02/2009 14:10:30
:: candle for Oma ::



What's with the "News Guy?"

Comment by Scoopster on 06/02/2009 14:13:01
Well now.. This puts a different spin on things.. given the choice here I'd probably go with taking the heat if it keeps the peace too.



And ~~~~~~ Healin' vibes for Raine's oma! ~~~~~~

Comment by wickedpam on 06/02/2009 14:17:43
When you call for the death of someone you have blood on your hands

Comment by starling310 on 06/02/2009 14:17:51
"IT'S A BABY!" ( that could not survive outside the womb on it's own ) Just sayin'



Comment by wickedpam on 06/02/2009 14:18:35
Oh! Ask if she Pro Death Penalty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by wickedpam on 06/02/2009 14:18:55
Quote by starling310:

"IT'S A BABY!" ( that could not survive outside the womb on it's own ) Just sayin'







exactly!

Comment by wickedpam on 06/02/2009 14:19:25
the headache in my eye is back *twitch*

Comment by wickedpam on 06/02/2009 14:20:21
again is she Pro Death Penatly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by wickedpam on 06/02/2009 14:21:23
A baby on a table is different from a fetus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



ARGH!!!!! These people get me so FRIGGING AGGRIVATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by Random on 06/02/2009 14:21:26
Random just not on...



Crazy old lady.

Comment by wickedpam on 06/02/2009 14:21:54


Comment by Random on 06/02/2009 14:28:03
Quote by wickedpam:

A baby on a table is different from a fetus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



ARGH!!!!! These people get me so FRIGGING AGGRIVATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


her inane argument about parents saying "ohh a baby" to a sonogram isn't valid. since that's a matter of perspective. objectively, that is a fetus, not a baby.

Comment by Raine on 06/02/2009 14:29:11
Well it sounds like I am glad that I walked away from the radio machine for a few minutes. I think I would have lost my ever lovin mind listening to that woman....

Comment by wickedpam on 06/02/2009 14:31:44
Quote by Raine:

Well it sounds like I am glad that I walked away from the radio machine for a few minutes. I think I would have lost my ever lovin mind listening to that woman....






don't worry I fell on the sword for that one *eye twitch -> *

Comment by wickedpam on 06/02/2009 14:33:04
Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:

A baby on a table is different from a fetus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



ARGH!!!!! These people get me so FRIGGING AGGRIVATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


her inane argument about parents saying "ohh a baby" to a sonogram isn't valid. since that's a matter of perspective. objectively, that is a fetus, not a baby.




but to call it anything other then what they preceive it to be is science and science is evil (and French - sorry had to lighten the mood)



Comment by Random on 06/02/2009 14:34:27
Random has a question, anyone getting Wolffe's book?

Comment by Raine on 06/02/2009 14:35:16
I agree Mala-- they should have asked her is she was for the death penalty.



Loony cuckoo nuts like that really don't help things.

Comment by Random on 06/02/2009 14:43:14
DAMN STUPID CRAPPY EXPLORER!!!!

Comment by Random on 06/02/2009 14:43:14
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Well it sounds like I am glad that I walked away from the radio machine for a few minutes. I think I would have lost my ever lovin mind listening to that woman....






don't worry I fell on the sword for that one *eye twitch -> *


ahh *hugs* just makes Random like you even more, for standing up for what you believe in.

<< >> Random was getting pissed hisself.

Comment by Raine on 06/02/2009 14:45:04
Except there is no *K* in the spanish language... <_<

Comment by BobR on 06/02/2009 14:49:08
Great post TriSec - I seem to remember when the military did everything for itself. KP (Kitchen Patrol) was punishment for misbehaving soldiers. Now it's a profit line item for private contractors to feed soldiers crap. How did we get here?

Comment by BobR on 06/02/2009 14:49:44
Quote by Random:



Hm...Florida county?

Whatever, Florida's law enforcement sucks, hard.

and honestly, i don't care, it's not that draconian.

you sign a sheet saying what game you're putting in, and put a thumbprint on it.

not that big of a deal.


Taking a thumbprint is pretty draconian, sorry.

Comment by BobR on 06/02/2009 14:51:00
Quote by Scoopster:

Well now.. This puts a different spin on things.. given the choice here I'd probably go with taking the heat if it keeps the peace too.



And ~~~~~~ Healin' vibes for Raine's oma! ~~~~~~


Seems like one of our bloggers here previously suggested that it might be best if the photos WEREN'T released... ;)

Comment by Raine on 06/02/2009 14:51:16
Oh dear... is she being sarcastic?

Comment by BobR on 06/02/2009 14:51:44
Quote by Random:

Random has a question, anyone getting Wolffe's book?


Tom Wolffe has a new book out?

Comment by Random on 06/02/2009 14:52:02
awww...Random feels better now.

Comment by Raine on 06/02/2009 14:52:50
:clap: Thank you caller for sharing your story!!!

Comment by wickedpam on 06/02/2009 14:53:03
Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Well it sounds like I am glad that I walked away from the radio machine for a few minutes. I think I would have lost my ever lovin mind listening to that woman....






don't worry I fell on the sword for that one *eye twitch -> *


ahh *hugs* just makes Random like you even more, for standing up for what you believe in.

<< >> Random was getting pissed hisself.






awww thanks :)



I get in huge fights with my born-again Christian Messianic Aunt about this subject - which is why we don't bring it up

Comment by Random on 06/02/2009 14:57:32
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Random:

Random has a question, anyone getting Wolffe's book?


Tom Wolffe has a new book out?


Richard Wolffe.

Comment by Raine on 06/02/2009 14:58:30
Can we not call them Abortion Clinics? They are Medical Clinics. They are women's health clinics. They do a lot more than provide abortions.









Comment by BobR on 06/02/2009 14:58:41
Quote by Random:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Random:

Random has a question, anyone getting Wolffe's book?


Tom Wolffe has a new book out?


Richard Wolffe.


(it was a joke...)

Comment by BobR on 06/02/2009 14:59:10
Quote by Raine:

Can we not call them Abortion Clinics? They are Medical Clinics. They are women's health clinics. They do a lot more than provide abortions.





my choice...

Comment by starling310 on 06/02/2009 15:01:10
There's a reason pregnancy is 9 months.

There's a reason babies born before 9 months tend to need extra medical care.

Nature doesn't screw around. Babies are rarely viable on their own until the pregnancy has gone full term.

Call it a baby if you want.

But, it's chances for survival outside the womb are slim until it's "fully cooked."