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A (D) No and (R) No are still 'No'.
Author: Raine
Date: 06/29/2009 12:32:22
This week, the House managed to pass what some would say is a landmark energy bill. Others have said it is just arranging the chairs on the deck. I happen to believe that this is a good bill and will create what has come to be known as green jobs. It's not perfect but I fully agree with Al Gore:
Now the bill will move one to Senate. An uphill battle to pass it will be waged for sure.
Interestingly enough, Dennis Kucinich voted no for this bill. Many have hailed him as being one of the straight shooters in Congress, and usually I agree with that sentiment, but this time, no. Politicians usually oppose a bill before the vote instead of after it, as Kucinich did. Instead he waited to oppose it only after he knew it had passed instead of working to defeat it. I find it disingenuous. In the end, people will not remember his vote as a protest vote, but just as a simple NO, next to a (D). A no vote from Dennis doesn't do anything different than a No vote from a blue Dog Dem or a Republican in the end.
At a certain point, ideology begins to hurt, and I believe this is starting to be the case here. One can make the case that climate change will not compromise, and I agree. That said, if we were to hold out for Mr. Kucinich's standards, we would have gotten nothing, and that is quite unacceptable. The cold hard reality is that politics is the art of compromise. In this case, Dennis Kucinich has shown himself to be as obstructionist as the Republicans -- only for all the right reasons. I know that 40 other Congresspeople voted against this bill, but it was Dennis's reasons that bothered me. I was loath to write about this today, because I know he is beloved among many of my progressive friends and often hailed as the one true liberal in the house. I am not arguing that he should abandon his principles here. What we need is less grandstanding after the vote and more working on getting it right before.
We need solutions now and we must start somewhere. Saying no after the fact doesn't do anything to help what needs fixing now. This bill is a start. It is a good start.
Besides -- The Boehner hated the bill -- how bad could it REALLY be?
:rofl:
:peace: and
Raine
“This bill isn’t the last word, but it needs to be the first word,” Gore said firmly. “It’s important to send a signal around the world that the U.S. is serious about climate change. Now is the time -- before world leaders gather in Copenhagen this December to begin to solve the climate crisis.”
Interestingly enough, Dennis Kucinich voted no for this bill.
“I oppose H.R. 2454, the American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009,” Kucinich stated in a press release. “The reason is simple. It won’t address the problem. In fact, it might make the problem worse.”
“It sets targets that are too weak, especially in the short term, and sets about meeting those targets through Enron-style accounting methods,” he continued. “It gives new life to one of the primary sources of the problem that should be on its way out — coal — by giving it record subsidies.”
At a certain point, ideology begins to hurt, and I believe this is starting to be the case here. One can make the case that climate change will not compromise, and I agree. That said, if we were to hold out for Mr. Kucinich's standards, we would have gotten nothing, and that is quite unacceptable. The cold hard reality is that politics is the art of compromise. In this case, Dennis Kucinich has shown himself to be as obstructionist as the Republicans -- only for all the right reasons. I know that 40 other Congresspeople voted against this bill, but it was Dennis's reasons that bothered me. I was loath to write about this today, because I know he is beloved among many of my progressive friends and often hailed as the one true liberal in the house. I am not arguing that he should abandon his principles here. What we need is less grandstanding after the vote and more working on getting it right before.
We need solutions now and we must start somewhere. Saying no after the fact doesn't do anything to help what needs fixing now. This bill is a start. It is a good start.
Besides -- The Boehner hated the bill -- how bad could it REALLY be?
:rofl:
:peace: and
Raine
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Comment by 
wickedpam on 06/29/2009 12:37:31
wickedpam on 06/29/2009 12:37:31
Morning :hug:
So my Mom heard this morning on the news that the Pres is considering taxing healthcare - whats the real story?
So my Mom heard this morning on the news that the Pres is considering taxing healthcare - whats the real story?
Comment by 
Raine on 06/29/2009 12:40:16
best that I can tell, this is another one of the plans (of the 400 milion out there) that is being floated around. I am gonna see if I can get more information.
Raine on 06/29/2009 12:40:16
Quote by wickedpam:
Morning :hug:
So my Mom heard this morning on the news that the Pres is considering taxing healthcare - whats the real story?
Comment by wickedpam on 06/29/2009 12:41:27
wickedpam on 06/29/2009 12:41:27
Yeah I'll see what I can find too - been out of the loop since Thursday so I feel like I'm missing a bunch.
Comment by Raine on 06/29/2009 12:45:51
Raine on 06/29/2009 12:45:51
I suppose this one didn't Help either Mala: Axelrod Won't Rule Out Tax Increase
I tire of crap like this. I really do. I still believe that Obama does NOT want to tax anything... but I also belive that this is one way to get the asshats talking in DC.
We are not going to get any bill before October... we (as in ALL of us in America who want Healthcare) have a lot of work to do!
I tire of crap like this. I really do. I still believe that Obama does NOT want to tax anything... but I also belive that this is one way to get the asshats talking in DC.
We are not going to get any bill before October... we (as in ALL of us in America who want Healthcare) have a lot of work to do!
Comment by Raine on 06/29/2009 12:52:47
Raine on 06/29/2009 12:52:47
BTW: 9 AM Bernie Madoff sentencing....
Comment by Raine on 06/29/2009 12:57:21
Raine on 06/29/2009 12:57:21
Also Just a reminder-- Congress is in Recess until July 6... so that means your reps are in their local districts -- they are more likely to listen to you now that they are not in their happy little DC bubble...
Comment by wickedpam on 06/29/2009 13:01:01
sheeesshh - on one hand I totally understand the idea of laying out all options and weeding things out till you get the right one - but on the other, as a single person who's only tax breaks (as small as they are) are because I bought a home, I'm so tired of paying the taxes that those who make 5x more then I do get to avoid. Why am I paying my share and their share?
*headdesk*
sorry just a little frustrasted, I'm finally starting to gain some ground on saving and just don't want to see that stop right now.
wickedpam on 06/29/2009 13:01:01
Quote by Raine:
I suppose this one didn't Help either Mala: Axelrod Won't Rule Out Tax Increase
I tire of crap like this. I really do. I still believe that Obama does NOT want to tax anything... but I also belive that this is one way to get the asshats talking in DC.
We are not going to get any bill before October... we (as in ALL of us in America who want Healthcare) have a lot of work to do!
sheeesshh - on one hand I totally understand the idea of laying out all options and weeding things out till you get the right one - but on the other, as a single person who's only tax breaks (as small as they are) are because I bought a home, I'm so tired of paying the taxes that those who make 5x more then I do get to avoid. Why am I paying my share and their share?
*headdesk*
sorry just a little frustrasted, I'm finally starting to gain some ground on saving and just don't want to see that stop right now.
Comment by 
TriSec on 06/29/2009 13:03:04
TriSec on 06/29/2009 13:03:04
Morning, comrades!
Listening to "Ring of Fire" this am (computer fixed; got all my podcasts back, too!) And of course, I'm still all full of jingoism, "sound of freedom" and jet fumes from yesterday, so it was a good weekend in that regard. (for the av-dork parts of me, anyway.)
Listening to "Ring of Fire" this am (computer fixed; got all my podcasts back, too!) And of course, I'm still all full of jingoism, "sound of freedom" and jet fumes from yesterday, so it was a good weekend in that regard. (for the av-dork parts of me, anyway.)
Comment by Raine on 06/29/2009 13:05:41
I totally understand. This is a terrible idea to float around. But, Like I said this has NOt happened.
And I sorta feel like this is a bit of that Gotcha politics from the Media. Seriously...
Raine on 06/29/2009 13:05:41
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
I suppose this one didn't Help either Mala: Axelrod Won't Rule Out Tax Increase
I tire of crap like this. I really do. I still believe that Obama does NOT want to tax anything... but I also belive that this is one way to get the asshats talking in DC.
We are not going to get any bill before October... we (as in ALL of us in America who want Healthcare) have a lot of work to do!
sheeesshh - on one hand I totally understand the idea of laying out all options and weeding things out till you get the right one - but on the other, as a single person who's only tax breaks (as small as they are) are because I bought a home, I'm so tired of paying the taxes that those who make 5x more then I do get to avoid. Why am I paying my share and their share?
*headdesk*
sorry just a little frustrasted, I'm finally starting to gain some ground on saving and just don't want to see that stop right now.
And I sorta feel like this is a bit of that Gotcha politics from the Media. Seriously...
Comment by wickedpam on 06/29/2009 13:11:14
wickedpam on 06/29/2009 13:11:14
This is why I've pretty much stopped listening to the MSM - they don't tell me what I what to know all they tell me is what they think I should know
Comment by TriSec on 06/29/2009 13:15:58
TriSec on 06/29/2009 13:15:58
We're going back to "Taxachusetts" today. Gov. Patrick is set to sign the state budget, also known as the "New Hampshire Stimulus Package", which features a 1 1/4 % hike in the sales tax, up to 6 1/4%.
Wonder why we can't pull off a GST like Canada does, or some other alternate that won't kill businesses on the NH border?
But, the Western Suburbs (re: big money) are happy, as there won't be a toll hike on the Mass Turnpike.
Wonder why we can't pull off a GST like Canada does, or some other alternate that won't kill businesses on the NH border?
But, the Western Suburbs (re: big money) are happy, as there won't be a toll hike on the Mass Turnpike.
Comment by Raine on 06/29/2009 13:16:52
Raine on 06/29/2009 13:16:52
Last night Jamie Foxx And Ne- Yo sang I'll be there at the BET.
Comment by TriSec on 06/29/2009 13:18:48
TriSec on 06/29/2009 13:18:48
Oh, and we spent a lot of time watching MJ videos this weekend. I think I have a new favorite song..."Remember the Time". Not only is the choreography and dancing in the video mesmerizing, but the song itself is so smooth, it's a joy to listen to.
Comment by Raine on 06/29/2009 13:21:05
Raine on 06/29/2009 13:21:05
Aww poor fair Rebekah Didn't get a vacation?
Comment by wickedpam on 06/29/2009 13:21:38
why is it that Jamie Foxx singing makes me think of Ed Murphy and his crappy album?
wickedpam on 06/29/2009 13:21:38
Quote by Raine:
Last night Jamie Foxx And Ne- Yo sang I'll be there at the BET.
why is it that Jamie Foxx singing makes me think of Ed Murphy and his crappy album?
Comment by Raine on 06/29/2009 13:25:50
Jamie is actually a very good singer... I see what you mean tho-- and that reminds me... I FINALLY found a BAD MJ video! MJ performed on Eddie Murphy's Album...
it's aaawwwwwful!
Raine on 06/29/2009 13:25:50
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Last night Jamie Foxx And Ne- Yo sang I'll be there at the BET.
why is it that Jamie Foxx singing makes me think of Ed Murphy and his crappy album?
it's aaawwwwwful!
Comment by 
Scoopster on 06/29/2009 13:33:03
Scoopster on 06/29/2009 13:33:03
Morning all & Happy Mondee! 
:banana:
Had a bit of a mishap this weekend.. As you might know I have a sort of issue (okay it's a major issue) with premature grey hair. Well I decide to take care of that and dye it...
...picked out the color "blue-black" thinking it would be more black than blue. Oh boy. I look like I spilled a bottle of ink on my head!
It looks good tho!
Welp, back in the office today. End of Month, end of quarter, end of fiscal year!
:banana:Had a bit of a mishap this weekend.. As you might know I have a sort of issue (okay it's a major issue) with premature grey hair. Well I decide to take care of that and dye it...
...picked out the color "blue-black" thinking it would be more black than blue. Oh boy. I look like I spilled a bottle of ink on my head!
It looks good tho!Welp, back in the office today. End of Month, end of quarter, end of fiscal year!
Comment by TriSec on 06/29/2009 13:38:29
TriSec on 06/29/2009 13:38:29
Ahh, Scoopster. I travelled through your fair state yesterday.
Pawtucket Bridge.
What's up with that?
There were signs for miles on both directions on I-95. "Don't drive over this bridge!" "No Heavy Trucks!" "$120 million dollar fine!" "Truckdrivers will be shot on sight!!"
So I get to Pawtucket, and I was expecting something a little more prominent? I don't think we even drove over a bridge there.
Pawtucket Bridge.
What's up with that?
There were signs for miles on both directions on I-95. "Don't drive over this bridge!" "No Heavy Trucks!" "$120 million dollar fine!" "Truckdrivers will be shot on sight!!"
So I get to Pawtucket, and I was expecting something a little more prominent? I don't think we even drove over a bridge there.
Comment by Scoopster on 06/29/2009 13:48:02
Yeah RIDOT has been going through this phase ever since the bridge collapse in Minnesota.. they've closed that bridge, the Sakonnet River Bridge (from Tiverton to Aquidneck Island) and a few other small bridges around the state to vehicles over 18 tons because they're afraid the bridges will collapse. They also just found major cracks in the concrete deck on 95 right behind the mall in Providence and will need to replace that as well.
Of course, they can't do anything with those right now because they're working on the new 195 interchange, redoing 95 thru Providence, changing a bunch of the exits and tearing down the old 95 bridges. Hey, no complaints here I get half-rate transit passes for the headaches!
Scoopster on 06/29/2009 13:48:02
Quote by TriSec:
Ahh, Scoopster. I travelled through your fair state yesterday.
Pawtucket Bridge.
What's up with that?
There were signs for miles on both directions on I-95. "Don't drive over this bridge!" "No Heavy Trucks!" "$120 million dollar fine!" "Truckdrivers will be shot on sight!!"
So I get to Pawtucket, and I was expecting something a little more prominent? I don't think we even drove over a bridge there.
Yeah RIDOT has been going through this phase ever since the bridge collapse in Minnesota.. they've closed that bridge, the Sakonnet River Bridge (from Tiverton to Aquidneck Island) and a few other small bridges around the state to vehicles over 18 tons because they're afraid the bridges will collapse. They also just found major cracks in the concrete deck on 95 right behind the mall in Providence and will need to replace that as well.
Of course, they can't do anything with those right now because they're working on the new 195 interchange, redoing 95 thru Providence, changing a bunch of the exits and tearing down the old 95 bridges. Hey, no complaints here I get half-rate transit passes for the headaches!
Comment by wickedpam on 06/29/2009 13:49:24
blue-black is a hard color to pull off - keep a count of how many people stare at you while trying to figure out what's different :)
wickedpam on 06/29/2009 13:49:24
Quote by Scoopster:
Morning all & Happy Mondee!
Had a bit of a mishap this weekend.. As you might know I have a sort of issue (okay it's a major issue) with premature grey hair. Well I decide to take care of that and dye it...
...picked out the color "blue-black" thinking it would be more black than blue. Oh boy. I look like I spilled a bottle of ink on my head!
Welp, back in the office today. End of Month, end of quarter, end of fiscal year!
blue-black is a hard color to pull off - keep a count of how many people stare at you while trying to figure out what's different :)
Comment by 
m-hadley on 06/29/2009 13:52:22
Raine,
Don't worry, RB gets a vacation next week... BTB, I luv your post this morning - I understand that it is not a perfect bill, but it is a start (granted, a start we should have made 10 - 20 years ago), but I shudder to think what this bill will look like when is gets through the Senate meatgrinder
Happee Mondee everybodee!!! :D
Cheers,
mfaye
& :peace:
m-hadley on 06/29/2009 13:52:22
Quote by Raine:
Aww poor fair Rebekah Didn't get a vacation?
Raine,
Don't worry, RB gets a vacation next week... BTB, I luv your post this morning - I understand that it is not a perfect bill, but it is a start (granted, a start we should have made 10 - 20 years ago), but I shudder to think what this bill will look like when is gets through the Senate meatgrinder
Happee Mondee everybodee!!! :DCheers,
mfaye
& :peace:
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 06/29/2009 13:58:28
velveeta jones on 06/29/2009 13:58:28
I agree with you on this Raine. I wonder what Dennis' motives were (or, was he fighting hard but not getting any airtime -especially given the whole MJ death). Perhaps Dennis has an election coming up and he knows that not every voter pays attention to the details. If true, I find that sad.
Comment by velveeta jones on 06/29/2009 14:00:03
Yeah.... that's what I call mine as well..... "premature" :P
velveeta jones on 06/29/2009 14:00:03
Quote by Scoopster:
Morning all & Happy Mondee!
Had a bit of a mishap this weekend.. As you might know I have a sort of issue (okay it's a major issue) with premature grey hair. Well I decide to take care of that and dye it...
...picked out the color "blue-black" thinking it would be more black than blue. Oh boy. I look like I spilled a bottle of ink on my head!
Welp, back in the office today. End of Month, end of quarter, end of fiscal year!
Yeah.... that's what I call mine as well..... "premature" :P
Comment by velveeta jones on 06/29/2009 14:09:35
Wow! That was spectacularly BAD!! I've just lost 3 minutes of my life watching this dreck. :puke:
I had no idea - Eddie Murphy did an album????
:O
velveeta jones on 06/29/2009 14:09:35
Quote by Raine:Jamie is actually a very good singer... I see what you mean tho-- and that reminds me... I FINALLY found a BAD MJ video! MJ performed on Eddie Murphy's Album...Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Last night Jamie Foxx And Ne- Yo sang I'll be there at the BET.
why is it that Jamie Foxx singing makes me think of Ed Murphy and his crappy album?
it's aaawwwwwful!
Wow! That was spectacularly BAD!! I've just lost 3 minutes of my life watching this dreck. :puke:
I had no idea - Eddie Murphy did an album????
:O
Comment by Scoopster on 06/29/2009 14:11:36
It's already drawing some glances.. This cute girl on the bus kept lookin' at me, and doing... well let's just say other odd seat-shifting manuevers.
No seriously! I've had grey hair since I was 17!
Scoopster on 06/29/2009 14:11:36
Quote by wickedpam:
blue-black is a hard color to pull off - keep a count of how many people stare at you while trying to figure out what's different :)
It's already drawing some glances.. This cute girl on the bus kept lookin' at me, and doing... well let's just say other odd seat-shifting manuevers.
Quote by velveeta jones:
Yeah.... that's what I call mine as well..... "premature" :P
No seriously! I've had grey hair since I was 17!
Comment by BobR on 06/29/2009 14:21:20
Does it look like superman comic book hair?
BobR on 06/29/2009 14:21:20
Quote by Scoopster:
Morning all & Happy Mondee!
Had a bit of a mishap this weekend.. As you might know I have a sort of issue (okay it's a major issue) with premature grey hair. Well I decide to take care of that and dye it...
...picked out the color "blue-black" thinking it would be more black than blue. Oh boy. I look like I spilled a bottle of ink on my head!
Welp, back in the office today. End of Month, end of quarter, end of fiscal year!
Does it look like superman comic book hair?
Comment by wickedpam on 06/29/2009 14:22:36
with the curl in the middle of your forehead :p
wickedpam on 06/29/2009 14:22:36
Quote by BobR:Quote by Scoopster:
Morning all & Happy Mondee!
Had a bit of a mishap this weekend.. As you might know I have a sort of issue (okay it's a major issue) with premature grey hair. Well I decide to take care of that and dye it...
...picked out the color "blue-black" thinking it would be more black than blue. Oh boy. I look like I spilled a bottle of ink on my head!
Welp, back in the office today. End of Month, end of quarter, end of fiscal year!
Does it look like superman comic book hair?
with the curl in the middle of your forehead :p
Comment by Scoopster on 06/29/2009 14:22:40
Scoopster on 06/29/2009 14:22:40
I was thinking more Max Sterling from the early 80s series Robotech.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/29/2009 14:23:21
you don't remember "Party all the Time"? Think that was a top 10 hit in the 80's
wickedpam on 06/29/2009 14:23:21
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Raine:Jamie is actually a very good singer... I see what you mean tho-- and that reminds me... I FINALLY found a BAD MJ video! MJ performed on Eddie Murphy's Album...Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Last night Jamie Foxx And Ne- Yo sang I'll be there at the BET.
why is it that Jamie Foxx singing makes me think of Ed Murphy and his crappy album?
it's aaawwwwwful!
Wow! That was spectacularly BAD!! I've just lost 3 minutes of my life watching this dreck. :puke:
I had no idea - Eddie Murphy did an album????
you don't remember "Party all the Time"? Think that was a top 10 hit in the 80's
Comment by Scoopster on 06/29/2009 14:25:09
Scoopster on 06/29/2009 14:25:09
SCOTUS rules 5-4 in favor of New Haven firefighters.
I figured this would be a borderline decision since I thought both sides had valid points. Will have to read the decision pdf to see where the court specifically stood.
I figured this would be a borderline decision since I thought both sides had valid points. Will have to read the decision pdf to see where the court specifically stood.
Comment by Raine on 06/29/2009 14:49:22
SCOTUS won't hear Sept. 11 claims vs. Saudi Arabia
No surprise really... We can't sue other countries in American courts...
Raine on 06/29/2009 14:49:22
SCOTUS won't hear Sept. 11 claims vs. Saudi Arabia
No surprise really... We can't sue other countries in American courts...
Comment by Scoopster on 06/29/2009 14:57:48
Scoopster on 06/29/2009 14:57:48
Well here we go.. Tomorrow is our last day with active troops in Iraq. After that they will be confined to bases of operation, unless called for a major emergency or operation, and the gradual withdrawl will begin.
:clap:
Thanks for doing this tough job for us guys & gals. And thanks for dealing with us being tough on you sometimes.. we meant to direct it at the jackasses who put you there.
:clap:
Thanks for doing this tough job for us guys & gals. And thanks for dealing with us being tough on you sometimes.. we meant to direct it at the jackasses who put you there.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/29/2009 14:59:59
wickedpam on 06/29/2009 14:59:59
Has the Maddoff sentence come down yet?
Comment by Scoopster on 06/29/2009 15:09:58
Scoopster on 06/29/2009 15:09:58
Comment by Scoopster on 06/29/2009 15:16:00
Scoopster on 06/29/2009 15:16:00
Heh.. so bad.
Comment by 
livingonli on 06/29/2009 15:18:05
livingonli on 06/29/2009 15:18:05
Good morning everyone. 
The sentencing hasn't happened yet and Fox 5 here in New York has gone wall-to-wall Madoff.
The sentencing hasn't happened yet and Fox 5 here in New York has gone wall-to-wall Madoff.
Comment by BobR on 06/29/2009 15:31:02
OMG!!! This is PROOF, I say PROOF that Sotomayor is not fit for the Supreme Court!!! [/high dudgeon]
BobR on 06/29/2009 15:31:02
Quote by Scoopster:
SCOTUS rules 5-4 in favor of New Haven firefighters.
I figured this would be a borderline decision since I thought both sides had valid points. Will have to read the decision pdf to see where the court specifically stood.
OMG!!! This is PROOF, I say PROOF that Sotomayor is not fit for the Supreme Court!!! [/high dudgeon]
Comment by livingonli on 06/29/2009 15:34:26
livingonli on 06/29/2009 15:34:26
My cable system launched MSNBC in HD today.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/29/2009 15:36:12
I just watch everything in regular D ;)
wickedpam on 06/29/2009 15:36:12
Quote by livingonli:
My cable system launched MSNBC in HD today.
I just watch everything in regular D ;)
Comment by wickedpam on 06/29/2009 15:52:47
wickedpam on 06/29/2009 15:52:47
150 years. Good. Man is one of the worst kinda criminals in my book
Comment by livingonli on 06/29/2009 16:30:24
livingonli on 06/29/2009 16:30:24
The muggy weather is making me sleepy.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/29/2009 16:33:24
No! You must stay awake! You have a to-do list to work on!
wickedpam on 06/29/2009 16:33:24
Quote by livingonli:
The muggy weather is making me sleepy.
No! You must stay awake! You have a to-do list to work on!
Comment by TriSec on 06/29/2009 16:37:38
TriSec on 06/29/2009 16:37:38
My, my, what is this world coming to?
I just ran an analysis backwards, so I mentioned that obviously I "crossed the streams" and I'll rerun it correctly....
But I was greeted by a blank stare from my young team lead.
I just ran an analysis backwards, so I mentioned that obviously I "crossed the streams" and I'll rerun it correctly....
But I was greeted by a blank stare from my young team lead.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/29/2009 16:49:12
people have no respect for the classics :D
wickedpam on 06/29/2009 16:49:12
Quote by TriSec:
My, my, what is this world coming to?
I just ran an analysis backwards, so I mentioned that obviously I "crossed the streams" and I'll rerun it correctly....
But I was greeted by a blank stare from my young team lead.
people have no respect for the classics :D
Comment by 
Will in Chicago on 06/29/2009 17:04:02
Will in Chicago on 06/29/2009 17:04:02
Good morning from the Valley of the Sun!
Excellent post, Raine!! I think that it is hard to entirely approve of this bill, even if it takes a few limited steps forward.
Well, back to trying to beat the heat. We are looking at 109 today. (It is a dry heat. Yes, there is a difference between this and hot Chicago weather. If you subtract about 10 degrees, you get the Chicago equivalent with the humidity.)
Excellent post, Raine!! I think that it is hard to entirely approve of this bill, even if it takes a few limited steps forward.
Well, back to trying to beat the heat. We are looking at 109 today. (It is a dry heat. Yes, there is a difference between this and hot Chicago weather. If you subtract about 10 degrees, you get the Chicago equivalent with the humidity.)
Comment by Raine on 06/29/2009 17:37:50
Raine on 06/29/2009 17:37:50
Ok -- Everything is ready for the family cookout today...
y'all are invited!
y'all are invited!
Comment by livingonli on 06/29/2009 17:42:15
livingonli on 06/29/2009 17:42:15
If I could teleport myself, I would head down to Atlanta.
Comment by Scoopster on 06/29/2009 18:09:01
Scoopster on 06/29/2009 18:09:01
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