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It's not the Crime, it's the Coverup
Author: BobR    Date: 07/15/2009 12:39:55

For some reason, it seems that politicians are unable or unwilling to prosecute other politicians for crimes. Perhaps it is a "professional courtesy", perhaps it is the fear of retribution. After prolonged investigations, and evidence is gathered, it seems that the crimes themselves are glossed over, and the politician is persecuted (and/or prosecuted) for covering up the crime.

Consider Nixon: The Watergate break-in was a definite crime. People closely associated with Nixon went to jail for it. But Nixon himself? He was not implicated in the crime, but in helping to try to cover it up. The 18 1/2 minute stretch of blank tape that he turned over to investigators was the nail in the coffin of his reputation.

Republicans went after Clinton like sharks smelling blood in an effort to bring him down. They kept digging and investigating in an effort to find *something* solid enough to be grounds for impeachment. Despite the tawdry tales from women in his past, there just wasn't anything that seemed to stick... That is - until he tried to cover up the Lewinsky affair. Once they had a small legal technicality they could hook onto, they flogged it all the way to impeachment hearings.

And so it is that the members of the former Bush Administration may also be brought to some sort of justice. Despite their (alleged) crimes against humanity, it might be their efforts to conceal them that becomes their undoing.

The amended National Security Act of 1947 requires that the President keep the congressional intelligence committees apprised of their actions. Although the initial accusations by House Speaker Pelosi's comments over being lied to and underinformed were (or at least seemed to be) in relation to torture programs, the program that seems to be the real crux of this matter is Official CIA Hit Squads:
The goal of the CIA hit squads created by a now canceled secret program was to put ‘bullets in heads,' an unnamed former intel official tells the Wall Street Journal.

"A secret Central Intelligence Agency initiative axed by Director Leon Panetta examined how to assassinate members of al Qaeda with hit teams on the ground, according to current and former national-security officials familiar with the matter," Siobhan Gordon reports. "The goal was to assemble teams of CIA and special-operations forces ‘and put bullets in [the al Qaeda leaders'] heads," one former intelligence official said...

As distasteful as "hit squads" sound, I've always believed we've been doing something like this since at least the Cold War. However, once again the focus is not on how reprehensible or legal the program might be, but on whether the Administration actively tried to deceive Congress about it's existence. The questions are shifting from "who knew what when?" to "did Cheney try to illegally conceal the activities from Congress?":
The CIA made two mistakes. The first was to think that it could keep it all hidden.

There is much that will never be made public, it was perhaps inevitable that something damaging would come out. As it happens, a slew of revelations have emerged with shocking speed.

In recent days, the agency has admitted hiding from Congress - probably illegally - a covert anti-terrorism programme. Numerous leaks have revealed it to be an operation to kill al-Qaida operatives, sometimes in friendly countries. The leaks have not been denied by the CIA or members of Congress since informed about the programme.

That revelation came days after five federal inspectors general released a report in to the role of the CIA and the National Security Agency in to warrantless wiretaps and other surveillance at the behest of the White House.

New reports, however, indicate that this (and probably other) programs were deliberately hidden from Congress at the behest of Dick Cheney:
Former Vice President Dick Cheney directed the CIA eight years ago not to inform Congress about a nascent counterterrorism program that CIA Director Leon Panetta terminated in June, officials with direct knowledge of the matter said Saturday.
[...]
Cheney played a central role in overseeing the Bush administration's surveillance program that was the subject of an inspectors general report this past week. That report noted that Cheney's chief of staff, David Addington, personally decided who in Bush's inner circle could even know about the secret program.

But revelations about Cheney's role in making decisions for the CIA on whether to notify Congress came as a surprise to some on the committees, said another government official. All spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the program publicly...

So now we'll see where this goes. Did Cheney explicitly order the CIA to break the law by not divulging information to Congressional committees when it was legally required to do so? How is it that Cheney has that kind of weight? It's not too hard to fathom - Cheney was Secretary of Defense under George H.W. Bush, who himself used to be head of the CIA.

Perhaps once again the axiom will prove true. It's much easier to get a conviction on an easy to prove technicality than it is on a more serious, yet more complex crime.

 

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Comment by TriSec on 07/15/2009 13:01:19
Morning folks!



Well....if it's evil, it must be associated with Cheney. And don't forget that Al Capone was snagged on a technicality; he spent years at Alcatraz for tax evasion.





Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 13:10:00
Morning :hug:



Is dude calling in from near power lines?

Comment by Scoopster on 07/15/2009 13:31:59
Morning.. Another night with screwed up sleep.



At least I managed to catch up on this week's True Blood and yesterday's stage of the Tour De France tho.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 13:40:37
Quote by Scoopster:

Morning.. Another night with screwed up sleep.



At least I managed to catch up on this week's True Blood and yesterday's stage of the Tour De France tho.






I may have to get HBO just to see TrueBlood - I love the books

Comment by starling310 on 07/15/2009 13:41:01
point of order regarding the economy Momma:

It did not take us 8 years to get into this economic mess. It's taken us about 25, or 30 years to get here! It's been several presidents and their "Rich get Richer, Feed the Corporations" policies that got us here. Let's please remember that.



Comment by Scoopster on 07/15/2009 13:43:58
Insane wingnut group releases Sotomayor ad



These people are sick in the head. Seriously.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 13:44:48
Quote by starling310:

point of order regarding the economy Momma:

It did not take us 8 years to get into this economic mess. It's taken us about 25, or 30 years to get here! It's been several presidents and their "Rich get Richer, Feed the Corporations" policies that got us here. Let's please remember that.







agreed - it is policy on top of policy that have developed over the years that brought us what we have now. its like no one cleaned the blackboard and we have years of build up

Comment by TriSec on 07/15/2009 13:48:24
Waltham draws names for ballot position



This is for City Council, though. (My old friend Ken Doucette is first!) Alas, the School Committee names will be listed in alphabetical order.



Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 13:54:05
Good Morning All!

Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 13:56:21
Quote by Raine:

Good Morning All!






mornin' :)

Comment by TriSec on 07/15/2009 13:56:45
Quote by Scoopster:

Insane wingnut group releases Sotomayor ad



These people are sick in the head. Seriously.






Boogah-Boogah! She has a vagina! She speaks Spanish!



SHE'S NOT A WHITE GUY!!!!!!!



"I'm a retard, and I approve this message."





Comment by starling310 on 07/15/2009 13:56:54
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by starling310:

point of order regarding the economy Momma:

It did not take us 8 years to get into this economic mess. It's taken us about 25, or 30 years to get here! It's been several presidents and their "Rich get Richer, Feed the Corporations" policies that got us here. Let's please remember that.







agreed - it is policy on top of policy that have developed over the years that brought us what we have now. its like no one cleaned the blackboard and we have years of build up




Including Clinton, which people like to forget. He added to the pile as well. . . sad, but true.



Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 14:14:33
Comment by TriSec on 07/15/2009 14:23:56
Oh, please no, Raine.









Comment by Scoopster on 07/15/2009 14:25:06
Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 14:25:28
Quote by TriSec:

Oh, please no, Raine.

Alright it's tomorrow, but for some reason he popped into me head.



Comment by TriSec on 07/15/2009 14:29:17
Ah, maybe that explains the Boston Media's silence on it. They must be saving the glitzy "JFK IS STILL DEAD" retrospectives for tomorrow, then.



It's also the anniversary of TWA flight 800 this week...anyone still remember that?



:kickcan:





Comment by Scoopster on 07/15/2009 14:34:43
Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 14:35:06
and if she were a man he'd be calling her tough, strong and comanding

Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 14:36:24
Quote by TriSec:

Ah, maybe that explains the Boston Media's silence on it. They must be saving the glitzy "JFK IS STILL DEAD" retrospectives for tomorrow, then.



It's also the anniversary of TWA flight 800 this week...anyone still remember that?



:kickcan:



Still many questions about that one for myself...



Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 14:37:09
Quote by wickedpam:

and if she were a man he'd be calling her tough, strong and comanding


Of course.



The amount of crap -- Dog Whistle Crap -- coming from these guys is infuriating.

Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 14:39:54
Kennedy's Bill is voted out of committee.SNIP

The Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee voted 13-10 along party lines to pass a $600-billion measure that would expand coverage to nearly all Americans by requiring individuals get insurance and employers to contribute to the cost. The bill would provide federal aid to families and individuals making less than four times the poverty level, or about $88,000 for a family of four.


Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 14:40:40
oh on health care - I came in the the very end of something Bill Press was talking about - it seems that if they tax those that make over 1mil they taxes would only go up 9,000 and over 500k only pays 1,500 - that's it.

Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 14:43:20
and now for a WTF Moment:



Colburn asking about abortion to Sotomayor says... Coburn: "Let's say I'm 38 weeks pregnant."



Sotomayor says she says she cannot answer questions in abstract.







Comment by TriSec on 07/15/2009 14:44:13






Hey Scoop, who sponsors the parade? Is it a private group, or the city?



Because if it's a private group, they can invite and exclude whoever they want, even if the event takes place on a public way.



See the South Boston St. Patrick's Day parade (excludes gays) and the Boy Scouts of America (excludes gays and atheists) for that one; there's legal precedent from the Supreme Court in both instances.





Comment by Random on 07/15/2009 14:52:47
since i am a twit...why is there a # before things in twitter?

Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 14:56:44
Quote by Random:

since i am a twit...why is there a # before things in twitter?






supposedly so you can search things better



try #Heroes

Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 14:56:47
a # is a hashtag. It's a way to help you search for people having a similar conversation to you.



For example if you click on #Sotomayor you will find other people having that discussion.

Comment by Scoopster on 07/15/2009 14:58:17
Quote by TriSec:



Hey Scoop, who sponsors the parade? Is it a private group, or the city?



Because if it's a private group, they can invite and exclude whoever they want, even if the event takes place on a public way.



See the South Boston St. Patrick's Day parade (excludes gays) and the Boy Scouts of America (excludes gays and atheists) for that one; there's legal precedent from the Supreme Court in both instances.


The parade is technically a non-profit, and is run by an all-volunteer committee. Its funding comes mostly from private donations and fundraising events throughout the year, and also some minor funding from the town.



Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 15:00:47
Quote by Raine:

and now for a WTF Moment:



Colburn asking about abortion to Sotomayor says... Coburn: "Let's say I'm 38 weeks pregnant."



Sotomayor says she says she cannot answer questions in abstract.











okay -um why would he say that? 38 weeks is on or near a due date?

Comment by livingonli on 07/15/2009 15:05:27
Good morning everyone.



Can Coburn and Sessions be locked into a rubber room?

Comment by Scoopster on 07/15/2009 15:05:33
Ah fuck.. Glenn Beck did an interview with that c__t Helen Glover (local radio host, RITP member and Survivor contestant) and the whole thing's blown up again.

Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 15:05:36
Sotomayor says to Colburn



"I know it's difficult to deal with someone like a judge whose thinking is so cornered by law. "



:rofl:

Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 15:06:31
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

and now for a WTF Moment:



Colburn asking about abortion to Sotomayor says... Coburn: "Let's say I'm 38 weeks pregnant."

Sotomayor says she says she cannot answer questions in abstract.







okay -um why would he say that? 38 weeks is on or near a due date?
Don't forget this is a guy who think a 14 day old Zygote is a viable baby.



Comment by Mondobubba on 07/15/2009 15:06:39
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

and now for a WTF Moment:



Colburn asking about abortion to Sotomayor says... Coburn: "Let's say I'm 38 weeks pregnant."



Sotomayor says she says she cannot answer questions in abstract.











okay -um why would he say that? 38 weeks is on or near a due date?




Because Colburn is a asshole who is trying and failing badly to ask a gotcha question about late term abortion.

Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 15:08:07
Sheldon Whitehouse questioning Sonya now...

Comment by Scoopster on 07/15/2009 15:09:41
Quote by Raine:

Sotomayor says to Colburn



"I know it's difficult to deal with someone like a judge whose thinking is so cornered by law. "



:rofl:


SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNAP!

Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 15:12:23
Personally I was waiting for Colburn to ask Sotomayor if a fetus is allowed to pack heat 25 weeks in the womb.





Comment by livingonli on 07/15/2009 15:13:57
Quote by Raine:

Personally I was waiting for Colburn to ask Sotomayor if a fetus is allowed to pack heat 25 weeks in the womb.





Give it time. He just might.

Comment by Random on 07/15/2009 15:15:15
Quote by Raine:

a # is a hashtag. It's a way to help you search for people having a similar conversation to you.



For example if you click on #Sotomayor you will find other people having that discussion.


Random doesn't understand...but thanks anyway.



Comment by Mondobubba on 07/15/2009 15:19:52
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Raine:

Sotomayor says to Colburn



"I know it's difficult to deal with someone like a judge whose thinking is so cornered by law. "



:rofl:


SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNAP!






This must be the bullying thing. Judge Sotomayor knows better than to mock and pick on the wicked mentally challenged.

Comment by livingonli on 07/15/2009 15:21:56
I still love the Annie Hall moment that the Senator from the Confederacy got yesterday.

Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 15:22:26
Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

a # is a hashtag. It's a way to help you search for people having a similar conversation to you.



For example if you click on #Sotomayor you will find other people having that discussion.


Random doesn't understand...but thanks anyway.



Here this may help.







Comment by m-hadley on 07/15/2009 15:28:29
Mornin' everybodee :coffee:

Sorry I haven't been around too much, work has been a proverbial BE-OTCH. I'm heading to DC a week from this Friday (Law Liberrians Conf) I've got an extra bed in my hotel room - anybody wanna join me??? Just let me know. I'll be there from Friday through Tuesday (July 24 - 28).



I am shaking my sorry Okiehomie head at Coburn - Raine, you are absolutely correct about the question he is dying to ask Justice Sotomayor (who, I predict, will not have a metldown ). Not sure which is worse - having two bonehead senators or being from a state that has elected Sally Kern to the OK Statehouse three times

Cheers,

mfaye & :peace:

Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 15:30:53
GO Laura Flanders!







Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 15:30:55
Faaaayyyyeeeee! Figures you come the week after I'm off :p

Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 15:36:08
hey dummy - YOU would not have to pay tax on it

Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 15:38:31
:kickcan: Oh Faye I wish I could join you!

Comment by livingonli on 07/15/2009 15:38:33
These Republican plant callers can't even get their stories straight.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 15:38:57
Did Coburn really say "I have a gun, does that excite you?"