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It's not the Crime, it's the Coverup
Author: BobR
Date: 07/15/2009 12:39:55
For some reason, it seems that politicians are unable or unwilling to prosecute other politicians for crimes. Perhaps it is a "professional courtesy", perhaps it is the fear of retribution. After prolonged investigations, and evidence is gathered, it seems that the crimes themselves are glossed over, and the politician is persecuted (and/or prosecuted) for covering up the crime.
Consider Nixon: The Watergate break-in was a definite crime. People closely associated with Nixon went to jail for it. But Nixon himself? He was not implicated in the crime, but in helping to try to cover it up. The 18 1/2 minute stretch of blank tape that he turned over to investigators was the nail in the coffin of his reputation.
Republicans went after Clinton like sharks smelling blood in an effort to bring him down. They kept digging and investigating in an effort to find *something* solid enough to be grounds for impeachment. Despite the tawdry tales from women in his past, there just wasn't anything that seemed to stick... That is - until he tried to cover up the Lewinsky affair. Once they had a small legal technicality they could hook onto, they flogged it all the way to impeachment hearings.
And so it is that the members of the former Bush Administration may also be brought to some sort of justice. Despite their (alleged) crimes against humanity, it might be their efforts to conceal them that becomes their undoing.
The amended National Security Act of 1947 requires that the President keep the congressional intelligence committees apprised of their actions. Although the initial accusations by House Speaker Pelosi's comments over being lied to and underinformed were (or at least seemed to be) in relation to torture programs, the program that seems to be the real crux of this matter is Official CIA Hit Squads:
As distasteful as "hit squads" sound, I've always believed we've been doing something like this since at least the Cold War. However, once again the focus is not on how reprehensible or legal the program might be, but on whether the Administration actively tried to deceive Congress about it's existence. The questions are shifting from "who knew what when?" to "did Cheney try to illegally conceal the activities from Congress?":
New reports, however, indicate that this (and probably other) programs were deliberately hidden from Congress at the behest of Dick Cheney:
So now we'll see where this goes. Did Cheney explicitly order the CIA to break the law by not divulging information to Congressional committees when it was legally required to do so? How is it that Cheney has that kind of weight? It's not too hard to fathom - Cheney was Secretary of Defense under George H.W. Bush, who himself used to be head of the CIA.
Perhaps once again the axiom will prove true. It's much easier to get a conviction on an easy to prove technicality than it is on a more serious, yet more complex crime.
Consider Nixon: The Watergate break-in was a definite crime. People closely associated with Nixon went to jail for it. But Nixon himself? He was not implicated in the crime, but in helping to try to cover it up. The 18 1/2 minute stretch of blank tape that he turned over to investigators was the nail in the coffin of his reputation.
Republicans went after Clinton like sharks smelling blood in an effort to bring him down. They kept digging and investigating in an effort to find *something* solid enough to be grounds for impeachment. Despite the tawdry tales from women in his past, there just wasn't anything that seemed to stick... That is - until he tried to cover up the Lewinsky affair. Once they had a small legal technicality they could hook onto, they flogged it all the way to impeachment hearings.
And so it is that the members of the former Bush Administration may also be brought to some sort of justice. Despite their (alleged) crimes against humanity, it might be their efforts to conceal them that becomes their undoing.
The amended National Security Act of 1947 requires that the President keep the congressional intelligence committees apprised of their actions. Although the initial accusations by House Speaker Pelosi's comments over being lied to and underinformed were (or at least seemed to be) in relation to torture programs, the program that seems to be the real crux of this matter is Official CIA Hit Squads:
The goal of the CIA hit squads created by a now canceled secret program was to put ‘bullets in heads,' an unnamed former intel official tells the Wall Street Journal.
"A secret Central Intelligence Agency initiative axed by Director Leon Panetta examined how to assassinate members of al Qaeda with hit teams on the ground, according to current and former national-security officials familiar with the matter," Siobhan Gordon reports. "The goal was to assemble teams of CIA and special-operations forces ‘and put bullets in [the al Qaeda leaders'] heads," one former intelligence official said...
As distasteful as "hit squads" sound, I've always believed we've been doing something like this since at least the Cold War. However, once again the focus is not on how reprehensible or legal the program might be, but on whether the Administration actively tried to deceive Congress about it's existence. The questions are shifting from "who knew what when?" to "did Cheney try to illegally conceal the activities from Congress?":
The CIA made two mistakes. The first was to think that it could keep it all hidden.
There is much that will never be made public, it was perhaps inevitable that something damaging would come out. As it happens, a slew of revelations have emerged with shocking speed.
In recent days, the agency has admitted hiding from Congress - probably illegally - a covert anti-terrorism programme. Numerous leaks have revealed it to be an operation to kill al-Qaida operatives, sometimes in friendly countries. The leaks have not been denied by the CIA or members of Congress since informed about the programme.
That revelation came days after five federal inspectors general released a report in to the role of the CIA and the National Security Agency in to warrantless wiretaps and other surveillance at the behest of the White House.
New reports, however, indicate that this (and probably other) programs were deliberately hidden from Congress at the behest of Dick Cheney:
Former Vice President Dick Cheney directed the CIA eight years ago not to inform Congress about a nascent counterterrorism program that CIA Director Leon Panetta terminated in June, officials with direct knowledge of the matter said Saturday.
[...]
Cheney played a central role in overseeing the Bush administration's surveillance program that was the subject of an inspectors general report this past week. That report noted that Cheney's chief of staff, David Addington, personally decided who in Bush's inner circle could even know about the secret program.
But revelations about Cheney's role in making decisions for the CIA on whether to notify Congress came as a surprise to some on the committees, said another government official. All spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the program publicly...
So now we'll see where this goes. Did Cheney explicitly order the CIA to break the law by not divulging information to Congressional committees when it was legally required to do so? How is it that Cheney has that kind of weight? It's not too hard to fathom - Cheney was Secretary of Defense under George H.W. Bush, who himself used to be head of the CIA.
Perhaps once again the axiom will prove true. It's much easier to get a conviction on an easy to prove technicality than it is on a more serious, yet more complex crime.
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Comment by 
TriSec on 07/15/2009 13:01:19
TriSec on 07/15/2009 13:01:19
Morning folks!
Well....if it's evil, it must be associated with Cheney. And don't forget that Al Capone was snagged on a technicality; he spent years at Alcatraz for tax evasion.
Well....if it's evil, it must be associated with Cheney. And don't forget that Al Capone was snagged on a technicality; he spent years at Alcatraz for tax evasion.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 07/15/2009 13:10:00
wickedpam on 07/15/2009 13:10:00
Morning :hug:
Is dude calling in from near power lines?
Is dude calling in from near power lines?
Comment by 
Scoopster on 07/15/2009 13:31:59
Scoopster on 07/15/2009 13:31:59
Morning.. 
Another night with screwed up sleep.
At least I managed to catch up on this week's True Blood and yesterday's stage of the Tour De France tho.
Another night with screwed up sleep.At least I managed to catch up on this week's True Blood and yesterday's stage of the Tour De France tho.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 13:40:37
I may have to get HBO just to see TrueBlood - I love the books
wickedpam on 07/15/2009 13:40:37
Quote by Scoopster:
Morning..
At least I managed to catch up on this week's True Blood and yesterday's stage of the Tour De France tho.
I may have to get HBO just to see TrueBlood - I love the books
Comment by 
starling310 on 07/15/2009 13:41:01
starling310 on 07/15/2009 13:41:01
point of order regarding the economy Momma:
It did not take us 8 years to get into this economic mess. It's taken us about 25, or 30 years to get here! It's been several presidents and their "Rich get Richer, Feed the Corporations" policies that got us here. Let's please remember that.
It did not take us 8 years to get into this economic mess. It's taken us about 25, or 30 years to get here! It's been several presidents and their "Rich get Richer, Feed the Corporations" policies that got us here. Let's please remember that.
Comment by Scoopster on 07/15/2009 13:43:58
Scoopster on 07/15/2009 13:43:58
Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 13:44:48
agreed - it is policy on top of policy that have developed over the years that brought us what we have now. its like no one cleaned the blackboard and we have years of build up
wickedpam on 07/15/2009 13:44:48
Quote by starling310:
point of order regarding the economy Momma:
It did not take us 8 years to get into this economic mess. It's taken us about 25, or 30 years to get here! It's been several presidents and their "Rich get Richer, Feed the Corporations" policies that got us here. Let's please remember that.
agreed - it is policy on top of policy that have developed over the years that brought us what we have now. its like no one cleaned the blackboard and we have years of build up
Comment by TriSec on 07/15/2009 13:48:24
TriSec on 07/15/2009 13:48:24
Waltham draws names for ballot position
This is for City Council, though. (My old friend Ken Doucette is first!) Alas, the School Committee names will be listed in alphabetical order.
This is for City Council, though. (My old friend Ken Doucette is first!) Alas, the School Committee names will be listed in alphabetical order.
Comment by 
Raine on 07/15/2009 13:54:05
Raine on 07/15/2009 13:54:05
Good Morning All! 
Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 13:56:21
mornin' :)
wickedpam on 07/15/2009 13:56:21
Quote by Raine:
Good Morning All!
mornin' :)
Comment by TriSec on 07/15/2009 13:56:45
Boogah-Boogah! She has a vagina! She speaks Spanish!
SHE'S NOT A WHITE GUY!!!!!!!
"I'm a retard, and I approve this message."
TriSec on 07/15/2009 13:56:45
Quote by Scoopster:
Insane wingnut group releases Sotomayor ad
These people are sick in the head. Seriously.
Boogah-Boogah! She has a vagina! She speaks Spanish!
SHE'S NOT A WHITE GUY!!!!!!!
"I'm a retard, and I approve this message."
Comment by starling310 on 07/15/2009 13:56:54
Including Clinton, which people like to forget. He added to the pile as well. . . sad, but true.
starling310 on 07/15/2009 13:56:54
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by starling310:
point of order regarding the economy Momma:
It did not take us 8 years to get into this economic mess. It's taken us about 25, or 30 years to get here! It's been several presidents and their "Rich get Richer, Feed the Corporations" policies that got us here. Let's please remember that.
agreed - it is policy on top of policy that have developed over the years that brought us what we have now. its like no one cleaned the blackboard and we have years of build up
Including Clinton, which people like to forget. He added to the pile as well. . . sad, but true.
Comment by TriSec on 07/15/2009 14:23:56
TriSec on 07/15/2009 14:23:56
Oh, please no, Raine.
Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 14:25:28
Alright it's tomorrow, but for some reason he popped into me head.
Raine on 07/15/2009 14:25:28
Quote by TriSec:
Oh, please no, Raine.
Comment by TriSec on 07/15/2009 14:29:17
TriSec on 07/15/2009 14:29:17
Ah, maybe that explains the Boston Media's silence on it. They must be saving the glitzy "JFK IS STILL DEAD" retrospectives for tomorrow, then.
It's also the anniversary of TWA flight 800 this week...anyone still remember that?
:kickcan:
It's also the anniversary of TWA flight 800 this week...anyone still remember that?
:kickcan:
Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 14:35:06
wickedpam on 07/15/2009 14:35:06
and if she were a man he'd be calling her tough, strong and comanding
Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 14:36:24
Still many questions about that one for myself...
Raine on 07/15/2009 14:36:24
Quote by TriSec:
Ah, maybe that explains the Boston Media's silence on it. They must be saving the glitzy "JFK IS STILL DEAD" retrospectives for tomorrow, then.
It's also the anniversary of TWA flight 800 this week...anyone still remember that?
:kickcan:
Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 14:37:09
Of course.
The amount of crap -- Dog Whistle Crap -- coming from these guys is infuriating.
Raine on 07/15/2009 14:37:09
Quote by wickedpam:
and if she were a man he'd be calling her tough, strong and comanding
Of course.
The amount of crap -- Dog Whistle Crap -- coming from these guys is infuriating.
Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 14:39:54
Raine on 07/15/2009 14:39:54
Kennedy's Bill is voted out of committee.SNIP
The Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee voted 13-10 along party lines to pass a $600-billion measure that would expand coverage to nearly all Americans by requiring individuals get insurance and employers to contribute to the cost. The bill would provide federal aid to families and individuals making less than four times the poverty level, or about $88,000 for a family of four.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 14:40:40
wickedpam on 07/15/2009 14:40:40
oh on health care - I came in the the very end of something Bill Press was talking about - it seems that if they tax those that make over 1mil they taxes would only go up 9,000 and over 500k only pays 1,500 - that's it.
Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 14:43:20
Raine on 07/15/2009 14:43:20
and now for a WTF Moment:
Colburn asking about abortion to Sotomayor says... Coburn: "Let's say I'm 38 weeks pregnant."
Sotomayor says she says she cannot answer questions in abstract.
Colburn asking about abortion to Sotomayor says... Coburn: "Let's say I'm 38 weeks pregnant."
Sotomayor says she says she cannot answer questions in abstract.
Comment by TriSec on 07/15/2009 14:44:13
Hey Scoop, who sponsors the parade? Is it a private group, or the city?
Because if it's a private group, they can invite and exclude whoever they want, even if the event takes place on a public way.
See the South Boston St. Patrick's Day parade (excludes gays) and the Boy Scouts of America (excludes gays and atheists) for that one; there's legal precedent from the Supreme Court in both instances.
TriSec on 07/15/2009 14:44:13
Quote by Scoopster:
Why am I not amazed by the ignorance of these people?
Hey Scoop, who sponsors the parade? Is it a private group, or the city?
Because if it's a private group, they can invite and exclude whoever they want, even if the event takes place on a public way.
See the South Boston St. Patrick's Day parade (excludes gays) and the Boy Scouts of America (excludes gays and atheists) for that one; there's legal precedent from the Supreme Court in both instances.
Comment by 
Random on 07/15/2009 14:52:47
Random on 07/15/2009 14:52:47
since i am a twit...why is there a # before things in twitter?
Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 14:56:44
supposedly so you can search things better
try #Heroes
wickedpam on 07/15/2009 14:56:44
Quote by Random:
since i am a twit...why is there a # before things in twitter?
supposedly so you can search things better
try #Heroes
Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 14:56:47
Raine on 07/15/2009 14:56:47
a # is a hashtag. It's a way to help you search for people having a similar conversation to you.
For example if you click on #Sotomayor you will find other people having that discussion.
For example if you click on #Sotomayor you will find other people having that discussion.
Comment by Scoopster on 07/15/2009 14:58:17
The parade is technically a non-profit, and is run by an all-volunteer committee. Its funding comes mostly from private donations and fundraising events throughout the year, and also some minor funding from the town.
Scoopster on 07/15/2009 14:58:17
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Scoopster:
Why am I not amazed by the ignorance of these people?
Hey Scoop, who sponsors the parade? Is it a private group, or the city?
Because if it's a private group, they can invite and exclude whoever they want, even if the event takes place on a public way.
See the South Boston St. Patrick's Day parade (excludes gays) and the Boy Scouts of America (excludes gays and atheists) for that one; there's legal precedent from the Supreme Court in both instances.
The parade is technically a non-profit, and is run by an all-volunteer committee. Its funding comes mostly from private donations and fundraising events throughout the year, and also some minor funding from the town.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 15:00:47
okay -um why would he say that? 38 weeks is on or near a due date?
wickedpam on 07/15/2009 15:00:47
Quote by Raine:
and now for a WTF Moment:
Colburn asking about abortion to Sotomayor says... Coburn: "Let's say I'm 38 weeks pregnant."
Sotomayor says she says she cannot answer questions in abstract.
okay -um why would he say that? 38 weeks is on or near a due date?
Comment by 
livingonli on 07/15/2009 15:05:27
livingonli on 07/15/2009 15:05:27
Good morning everyone.
Can Coburn and Sessions be locked into a rubber room?
Can Coburn and Sessions be locked into a rubber room?
Comment by Scoopster on 07/15/2009 15:05:33
Scoopster on 07/15/2009 15:05:33
Ah fuck.. Glenn Beck did an interview with that c__t Helen Glover (local radio host, RITP member and Survivor contestant) and the whole thing's blown up again.
Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 15:05:36
Raine on 07/15/2009 15:05:36
Sotomayor says to Colburn
"I know it's difficult to deal with someone like a judge whose thinking is so cornered by law. "
:rofl:
"I know it's difficult to deal with someone like a judge whose thinking is so cornered by law. "
:rofl:
Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 15:06:31
Don't forget this is a guy who think a 14 day old Zygote is a viable baby.
Raine on 07/15/2009 15:06:31
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
and now for a WTF Moment:
Colburn asking about abortion to Sotomayor says... Coburn: "Let's say I'm 38 weeks pregnant."
Sotomayor says she says she cannot answer questions in abstract.
okay -um why would he say that? 38 weeks is on or near a due date?
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 07/15/2009 15:06:39
Because Colburn is a asshole who is trying and failing badly to ask a gotcha question about late term abortion.
Mondobubba on 07/15/2009 15:06:39
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
and now for a WTF Moment:
Colburn asking about abortion to Sotomayor says... Coburn: "Let's say I'm 38 weeks pregnant."
Sotomayor says she says she cannot answer questions in abstract.
okay -um why would he say that? 38 weeks is on or near a due date?
Because Colburn is a asshole who is trying and failing badly to ask a gotcha question about late term abortion.
Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 15:08:07
Raine on 07/15/2009 15:08:07
Sheldon Whitehouse questioning Sonya now...
Comment by Scoopster on 07/15/2009 15:09:41
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNAP!
Scoopster on 07/15/2009 15:09:41
Quote by Raine:
Sotomayor says to Colburn
"I know it's difficult to deal with someone like a judge whose thinking is so cornered by law. "
:rofl:
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNAP!
Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 15:12:23
Raine on 07/15/2009 15:12:23
Personally I was waiting for Colburn to ask Sotomayor if a fetus is allowed to pack heat 25 weeks in the womb.
Comment by livingonli on 07/15/2009 15:13:57
Give it time. He just might.
livingonli on 07/15/2009 15:13:57
Quote by Raine:
Personally I was waiting for Colburn to ask Sotomayor if a fetus is allowed to pack heat 25 weeks in the womb.
Give it time. He just might.
Comment by Random on 07/15/2009 15:15:15
Random doesn't understand...but thanks anyway.
Random on 07/15/2009 15:15:15
Quote by Raine:
a # is a hashtag. It's a way to help you search for people having a similar conversation to you.
For example if you click on #Sotomayor you will find other people having that discussion.
Random doesn't understand...but thanks anyway.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/15/2009 15:19:52
This must be the bullying thing. Judge Sotomayor knows better than to mock and pick on the wicked mentally challenged.
Mondobubba on 07/15/2009 15:19:52
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Raine:
Sotomayor says to Colburn
"I know it's difficult to deal with someone like a judge whose thinking is so cornered by law. "
:rofl:
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNAP!
This must be the bullying thing. Judge Sotomayor knows better than to mock and pick on the wicked mentally challenged.
Comment by livingonli on 07/15/2009 15:21:56
livingonli on 07/15/2009 15:21:56
I still love the Annie Hall moment that the Senator from the Confederacy got yesterday.
Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 15:22:26
Here this may help.
Raine on 07/15/2009 15:22:26
Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:
a # is a hashtag. It's a way to help you search for people having a similar conversation to you.
For example if you click on #Sotomayor you will find other people having that discussion.
Random doesn't understand...but thanks anyway.
Here this may help.
Comment by 
m-hadley on 07/15/2009 15:28:29
m-hadley on 07/15/2009 15:28:29
Mornin' everybodee :coffee:
Sorry I haven't been around too much, work has been a proverbial BE-OTCH. I'm heading to DC a week from this Friday (Law Liberrians Conf) I've got an extra bed in my hotel room - anybody wanna join me??? Just let me know. I'll be there from Friday through Tuesday (July 24 - 28).
I am shaking my sorry Okiehomie head at Coburn - Raine, you are absolutely correct about the question he is dying to ask Justice Sotomayor (who, I predict, will not have a metldown
). Not sure which is worse - having two bonehead senators or being from a state that has elected Sally Kern to the OK Statehouse three times 
Cheers,
mfaye
& :peace:
Sorry I haven't been around too much, work has been a proverbial BE-OTCH. I'm heading to DC a week from this Friday (Law Liberrians Conf) I've got an extra bed in my hotel room - anybody wanna join me??? Just let me know. I'll be there from Friday through Tuesday (July 24 - 28).
I am shaking my sorry Okiehomie head at Coburn - Raine, you are absolutely correct about the question he is dying to ask Justice Sotomayor (who, I predict, will not have a metldown
). Not sure which is worse - having two bonehead senators or being from a state that has elected Sally Kern to the OK Statehouse three times Cheers,
mfaye
& :peace:
Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 15:30:53
Raine on 07/15/2009 15:30:53
GO Laura Flanders!
Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 15:30:55
wickedpam on 07/15/2009 15:30:55
Faaaayyyyeeeee! Figures you come the week after I'm off :p
Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 15:36:08
wickedpam on 07/15/2009 15:36:08
hey dummy - YOU would not have to pay tax on it
Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 15:38:31
Raine on 07/15/2009 15:38:31
:kickcan: Oh Faye I wish I could join you!
Comment by livingonli on 07/15/2009 15:38:33
livingonli on 07/15/2009 15:38:33
These Republican plant callers can't even get their stories straight.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 15:38:57
wickedpam on 07/15/2009 15:38:57
Did Coburn really say "I have a gun, does that excite you?"
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/15/2009 15:38:58
Mondobubba on 07/15/2009 15:38:58
I've put on MSNBC there was Tweety jabbering away with the names of former justices. Andrea Mitchell was being properly outraged about Sen Fetus Fetish's 38 week pregnant question.
Does Tweety have any sorta filter tween brain and mouth.
Does Tweety have any sorta filter tween brain and mouth.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/15/2009 15:44:30
Mondobubba on 07/15/2009 15:44:30
Memo to Jeff Sessions speeches made are not binding legal opinions. They are statements of personal opinion.
Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 15:46:03
Raine on 07/15/2009 15:46:03
Has anyone seen the old Harry and Louise ads from the Clinton years? Funny how that worked out. The irony is rather delish...
Comment by m-hadley on 07/15/2009 15:47:02
Mala,
Will you be around that weekend? I don't think I have many meetings on Saturday or Sunday - maybe we could meet for cofffee or a beverage? Let me know.
Cheers,
mfaye & :peace:
m-hadley on 07/15/2009 15:47:02
Quote by wickedpam:
Faaaayyyyeeeee! Figures you come the week after I'm off :p
Mala,
Will you be around that weekend? I don't think I have many meetings on Saturday or Sunday - maybe we could meet for cofffee or a beverage? Let me know.
Cheers,
mfaye
& :peace:
Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 15:47:38
I did not specifically hear that -- Now I must go find out...
Raine on 07/15/2009 15:47:38
Quote by wickedpam:
Did Coburn really say "I have a gun, does that excite you?"
Comment by Scoopster on 07/15/2009 15:48:56
I thought this was supposed to be a confirmation hearing, not a fucking snuff video shoot.
Scoopster on 07/15/2009 15:48:56
Quote by Raine:I did not specifically hear that -- Now I must go find out...Quote by wickedpam:
Did Coburn really say "I have a gun, does that excite you?"
I thought this was supposed to be a confirmation hearing, not a fucking snuff video shoot.
Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 15:49:29
Computer says No -- I believe that was snark.
Raine on 07/15/2009 15:49:29
Quote by Raine:I did not specifically hear that -- Now I must go find out...Quote by wickedpam:
Did Coburn really say "I have a gun, does that excite you?"
Comment by m-hadley on 07/15/2009 15:50:08
Mondo,
Tweety never has had any kind of filter tween his brain and mouth - remember when he announced to the entire viewing public that Obama sent a tingle up his leg?
That was my fav :D
Cheers,
mfaye :hug:
m-hadley on 07/15/2009 15:50:08
Quote by Mondobubba:
I've put on MSNBC there was Tweety jabbering away with the names of former justices. Andrea Mitchell was being properly outraged about Sen Fetus Fetish's 38 week pregnant question.
Does Tweety have any sorta filter tween brain and mouth.
Mondo,
Tweety never has had any kind of filter tween his brain and mouth - remember when he announced to the entire viewing public that Obama sent a tingle up his leg?
That was my fav :DCheers,
mfaye :hug:
Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 15:50:10
annamariecox tweeted it so I wanted to see if it was true
wickedpam on 07/15/2009 15:50:10
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Raine:I did not specifically hear that -- Now I must go find out...Quote by wickedpam:
Did Coburn really say "I have a gun, does that excite you?"
I thought this was supposed to be a confirmation hearing, not a fucking snuff video shoot.
annamariecox tweeted it so I wanted to see if it was true
Comment by Scoopster on 07/15/2009 15:50:47
Scoopster on 07/15/2009 15:50:47
Okay damnit I've had enough of this shit with the damn teabaggers. I'm gonna start sending out emails to some legit news websites to get the real story out and start drowning these damn freeper blogs in the Google ranking.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 15:51:54
sadly from July 30 - Aug 2 we are doing a massive community clean up so I'll most likely be trying put aleast a sugarcoat on a home someone is just letting fall apart
wickedpam on 07/15/2009 15:51:54
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by wickedpam:
Faaaayyyyeeeee! Figures you come the week after I'm off :p
Mala,
Will you be around that weekend? I don't think I have many meetings on Saturday or Sunday - maybe we could meet for cofffee or a beverage? Let me know.
Cheers,
mfaye
sadly from July 30 - Aug 2 we are doing a massive community clean up so I'll most likely be trying put aleast a sugarcoat on a home someone is just letting fall apart
Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 15:53:13
ooops - got my weekends mixed up - I have the usually jam packed weekend of running around with Mommers
wickedpam on 07/15/2009 15:53:13
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by m-hadley:Quote by wickedpam:
Faaaayyyyeeeee! Figures you come the week after I'm off :p
Mala,
Will you be around that weekend? I don't think I have many meetings on Saturday or Sunday - maybe we could meet for cofffee or a beverage? Let me know.
Cheers,
mfaye
sadly from July 30 - Aug 2 we are doing a massive community clean up so I'll most likely be trying put aleast a sugarcoat on a home someone is just letting fall apart
ooops - got my weekends mixed up - I have the usually jam packed weekend of running around with Mommers
Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 15:54:29
considering the sounce - that's makes sense
THanks for checking that one out for me
wickedpam on 07/15/2009 15:54:29
Quote by Raine:Computer says No -- I believe that was snark.Quote by Raine:I did not specifically hear that -- Now I must go find out...Quote by wickedpam:
Did Coburn really say "I have a gun, does that excite you?"
considering the sounce - that's makes sense
THanks for checking that one out for me
Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 15:57:25
wickedpam on 07/15/2009 15:57:25
if not now - WHEN?
Comment by Scoopster on 07/15/2009 16:00:42
When will then be now? SOON! :lol:
Scoopster on 07/15/2009 16:00:42
Quote by wickedpam:
if not now - WHEN?
When will then be now? SOON! :lol:
Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 16:01:55
Raine on 07/15/2009 16:01:55
It's been a while since we visited the Red State update...
Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 16:10:13
wickedpam on 07/15/2009 16:10:13
250k is a pretty good income in DC you jerk 
Comment by Scoopster on 07/15/2009 16:14:32
That's a pretty good income anywhere.. I'd take it!
Scoopster on 07/15/2009 16:14:32
Quote by wickedpam:
250k is a pretty good income in DC you jerk
That's a pretty good income anywhere.. I'd take it!
Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 16:15:07
this guy on with Thom is just an ass
wickedpam on 07/15/2009 16:15:07
this guy on with Thom is just an ass
Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 16:15:25
me too
wickedpam on 07/15/2009 16:15:25
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by wickedpam:
250k is a pretty good income in DC you jerk
That's a pretty good income anywhere.. I'd take it!
me too
Comment by Scoopster on 07/15/2009 16:20:16
Scoopster on 07/15/2009 16:20:16
20 bucks says some racist wingnut dipshit will pick up on the marijuana growing quote.
Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 16:28:38
It started with PourMeCoffee.. also quite snarky.
Raine on 07/15/2009 16:28:38
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Raine:I did not specifically hear that -- Now I must go find out...Quote by wickedpam:
Did Coburn really say "I have a gun, does that excite you?"
I thought this was supposed to be a confirmation hearing, not a fucking snuff video shoot.
annamariecox tweeted it so I wanted to see if it was true
Comment by Scoopster on 07/15/2009 16:33:45
Scoopster on 07/15/2009 16:33:45
Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 16:34:42
Raine on 07/15/2009 16:34:42
Leahy notes that the air conditioner has gone out in the hearing groom, and it’s being worked on. The heat is on the nominee - literally!
Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 16:37:11
Raine on 07/15/2009 16:37:11
Any bets on who will be the first GOP Judiciary Committee Member to scream, "ARRIBA! ARRIBA! ANDALE! ANDALE! at Judge Sonia Sotomayor?
Colburn came awfully damn close.
Colburn came awfully damn close.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/15/2009 16:41:22
Mondobubba on 07/15/2009 16:41:22
Wish me luck. I am off to the cinema.
Comment by livingonli on 07/15/2009 16:48:07
What are you going to see?
livingonli on 07/15/2009 16:48:07
Quote by Mondobubba:
Wish me luck. I am off to the cinema.
What are you going to see?
Comment by 
Will in Chicago on 07/15/2009 16:55:21
Will in Chicago on 07/15/2009 16:55:21
Excellent post, BobR! I hope that everyone is doing well today.
Here is another thought: What if the CIA was spying on people in the U.S. We know that there was some domestic spying under the Bush administration of such groups as war protesters, but could the CIA have been involved in any spying in the U.S.? (If that is the case, then I expect that Congress will be incensed.)
Here is another thought: What if the CIA was spying on people in the U.S. We know that there was some domestic spying under the Bush administration of such groups as war protesters, but could the CIA have been involved in any spying in the U.S.? (If that is the case, then I expect that Congress will be incensed.)
Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 17:01:27
My bet is on HP6
wickedpam on 07/15/2009 17:01:27
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Mondobubba:
Wish me luck. I am off to the cinema.
What are you going to see?
My bet is on HP6
Comment by Scoopster on 07/15/2009 17:10:07
Scoopster on 07/15/2009 17:10:07
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/15/2009 17:10:49
That was the plan, but something has come up.
Mondobubba on 07/15/2009 17:10:49
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by livingonli:Quote by Mondobubba:
Wish me luck. I am off to the cinema.
What are you going to see?
My bet is on HP6
That was the plan, but something has come up.
Comment by Scoopster on 07/15/2009 17:18:54
Scoopster on 07/15/2009 17:18:54
Wha happened?
Comment by Random on 07/15/2009 17:35:48
Random on 07/15/2009 17:35:48
BURN IN HELL HP6
sorry...editorial comment of the day shall now be reserved for Twitter.
sorry...editorial comment of the day shall now be reserved for Twitter.
Comment by Scoopster on 07/15/2009 17:38:13
Ruh roh... I was hearing that Bates actually did a decent job this time. Guess not?
Scoopster on 07/15/2009 17:38:13
Quote by Random:
BURN IN HELL HP6
sorry...editorial comment of the day shall now be reserved for Twitter.
Ruh roh... I was hearing that Bates actually did a decent job this time. Guess not?
Comment by TriSec on 07/15/2009 17:41:35
TriSec on 07/15/2009 17:41:35
Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 17:51:26
more like Random has excercised his HP demon ;)
wickedpam on 07/15/2009 17:51:26
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Random:
BURN IN HELL HP6
sorry...editorial comment of the day shall now be reserved for Twitter.
Ruh roh... I was hearing that Bates actually did a decent job this time. Guess not?
more like Random has excercised his HP demon ;)
Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 17:52:30
wickedpam on 07/15/2009 17:52:30
Hey anyone know a keyboard shortcut in excel to delete rows - the standard select-right click select delete is holding me up
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/15/2009 17:54:17
Just some time consuming shit, that's all.
Mondobubba on 07/15/2009 17:54:17
Quote by Scoopster:
Wha happened?
Just some time consuming shit, that's all.
Comment by Scoopster on 07/15/2009 17:58:57
Well you can do Ctrl-X, but that also puts it on the clipboard and doesn't remove formatting.
Scoopster on 07/15/2009 17:58:57
Quote by wickedpam:
Hey anyone know a keyboard shortcut in excel to delete rows - the standard select-right click select delete is holding me up
Well you can do Ctrl-X, but that also puts it on the clipboard and doesn't remove formatting.
Comment by Random on 07/15/2009 18:03:06
Very true. HP is the devil. and glad i got him out before book 7
Random on 07/15/2009 18:03:06
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Random:
BURN IN HELL HP6
sorry...editorial comment of the day shall now be reserved for Twitter.
Ruh roh... I was hearing that Bates actually did a decent job this time. Guess not?
more like Random has excercised his HP demon ;)
Very true. HP is the devil. and glad i got him out before book 7
Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 18:06:39
don't need it to do that - need the lines deleted and all other lines to move up or down as the case may be
wickedpam on 07/15/2009 18:06:39
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by wickedpam:
Hey anyone know a keyboard shortcut in excel to delete rows - the standard select-right click select delete is holding me up
Well you can do Ctrl-X, but that also puts it on the clipboard and doesn't remove formatting.
don't need it to do that - need the lines deleted and all other lines to move up or down as the case may be
Comment by livingonli on 07/15/2009 18:19:43
livingonli on 07/15/2009 18:19:43
Time to head to work. Early summer league game today.
Comment by Scoopster on 07/15/2009 18:20:15
Hmm... I'm not sure how to do it then. I spose you could overwrite the stuff you want to delete with the lines below or above..
Scoopster on 07/15/2009 18:20:15
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by wickedpam:
Hey anyone know a keyboard shortcut in excel to delete rows - the standard select-right click select delete is holding me up
Well you can do Ctrl-X, but that also puts it on the clipboard and doesn't remove formatting.
don't need it to do that - need the lines deleted and all other lines to move up or down as the case may be
Hmm... I'm not sure how to do it then. I spose you could overwrite the stuff you want to delete with the lines below or above..
Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 18:36:23
thom talking about this now...
Raine on 07/15/2009 18:36:23
Quote by Raine:
Any bets on who will be the first GOP Judiciary Committee Member to scream, "ARRIBA! ARRIBA! ANDALE! ANDALE! at Judge Sonia Sotomayor?
Colburn came awfully damn close.
thom talking about this now...
Comment by TriSec on 07/15/2009 18:44:47
TriSec on 07/15/2009 18:44:47
Hold down CTR and SHIFT and use the arrow keys to select what you want to delete. Right-click, then select which way you want to shift the cells.
That should do it.
That should do it.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/15/2009 19:20:03
wickedpam on 07/15/2009 19:20:03
cool beans!
Comment by Scoopster on 07/15/2009 19:21:10
Scoopster on 07/15/2009 19:21:10
Hey now.. Al is kickin' some serious ass up there. He's even taking some constitutional issues straight at Sotomayor like the Court's role in limiting legislative branch power.
Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 19:37:16
Al did great. He asked some seriously wonky questions and I loved it -- asked about Net Nuetrality as well.
Sotomayor kinda waffled on that one... but in all reality -- she will not comment on anything that has not come before her in a court of law. She simply won't speculate. When they ask her about a real case, she explains things pretty well.
Raine on 07/15/2009 19:37:16
Quote by Scoopster:
Hey now.. Al is kickin' some serious ass up there. He's even taking some constitutional issues straight at Sotomayor like the Court's role in limiting legislative branch power.
Sotomayor kinda waffled on that one... but in all reality -- she will not comment on anything that has not come before her in a court of law. She simply won't speculate. When they ask her about a real case, she explains things pretty well.
Comment by Raine on 07/15/2009 19:55:39
Raine on 07/15/2009 19:55:39
:rolleyes2: Randi -- Al asked some of the toughest questions by any dem so far... Get off al's case. It was humorous, and I look forward to the freepers hedz esploding...
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/15/2009 20:41:42
What, she didn't like the Perry Mason questions? Geez!
Mondobubba on 07/15/2009 20:41:42
Quote by Raine:
:rolleyes2: Randi -- Al asked some of the toughest questions by any dem so far... Get off al's case. It was humorous, and I look forward to the freepers hedz esploding...
What, she didn't like the Perry Mason questions? Geez!
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 07/15/2009 22:05:36
There'll be a massive nor'easter that day. Take your pick, a couple of feet of snow or inches of rain and temperatures in the 50's. Either way, a disaster.
trojanrabbit on 07/15/2009 22:05:36
Quote by TriSec:
Hockey coming to Fenway!
Yeah, you read that right. Wonder how much we'll be raped for tickets?
There'll be a massive nor'easter that day. Take your pick, a couple of feet of snow or inches of rain and temperatures in the 50's. Either way, a disaster.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/15/2009 23:59:42
trojanrabbit on 07/15/2009 23:59:42
Comment by 
clintster on 07/16/2009 01:15:49
clintster on 07/16/2009 01:15:49
Comment by clintster on 07/16/2009 04:13:53
clintster on 07/16/2009 04:13:53
Sorry I am hogging the board with this, but Glenn Beck freaking out has become my new audio crack. Here's a soundboard that some guy in Michigan made of it.