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Author: TriSec    Date: 08/11/2009 10:26:27

Good Morning.

Today is our 2,337th day in Iraq.

We'll start this morning as we always do, with the latest casualty figures from Iraq and Afghanistan, courtesy of antiwar.com:

American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4330
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 4191
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3869
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3471
Since Obama Inauguration (1/20/09): 102

Other Coalition Troops - Iraq: 318
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 773
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 523
Contractor Employee Deaths - Iraq: 1,395
Journalists - Iraq: 139
Academics Killed - Iraq: 423

We find this morning's cost of war passing through:

$ 896, 787, 100, 000 .00




This morning, we'll veer away from Iraq and take a look at Afghanistan. Always the 'forgotten front' on the war on terror, there's a couple of interesting news items out of there today. For starters, it appears that no troops will be coming home anytime soon. One advisor has put it all on the table; he's expecting two more tough years, then Afghanistan takes over it's own security....or we 'lose and go home'.


WASHINGTON - An incoming adviser to the top U.S. general in Afghanistan predicted Thursday that the United States will see about two more years of heavy fighting and then either hand off to a much improved Afghan fighting force or "lose and go home."

David Kilcullen, a counterinsurgency expert who will assume a role as a senior adviser to Gen. Stanley McChrystal, has been highly critical of the war's management to date. He outlined a "best-case scenario" for a decade of further U.S. and NATO involvement in Afghanistan during an appearance at the U.S. Institute of Peace.

Under that timeline, the allied forces would turn the corner in those two years, followed by about three years of transition to a newly capable Afghan force and about five years of "overwatch."

"We'll fight for two years and then a successful transition, or we'll fight for two years and we'll lose and go home," Kilcullen said.

"I think we need to persist," he said, but with "some pretty significant limits on how much we're prepared to spend, how many troops we're prepared to send, how long we can do this for."

Kilcullen was speaking for himself, and it is not clear that McChrystal shares his dark assessment. McChrystal is assembling what aides describe as a blunt summing up of a war his predecessor called a stalemate. That review is due within weeks and may lead to a request for additional U.S. forces beyond those President Barack Obama has already sent to Afghanistan this year.

The report is expected recommend changes in the way the United States and NATO organize and manage the war. Ahead of those recommendations, the Pentagon set up a new command center, an ultra-secure war room where a people from a mix of services and disciplines sit together. The command post is supposed to quickly process information for McChrystal and bulldoze some of the pentagon's legendary bureaucracy.

Separately, the Obama administration is developing new measures of success in Afghanistan, something top military leaders promised Congress months ago. Some of the yardsticks would apply to the Afghan government, some to its armed forces and police and some to the United States.

Obama announced a retailored war strategy in March, with a streamlined focus on ensuring that Afghanistan cannot be used as a harbor for al-Qaida. He has committed 21,000 additional U.S. forces for Afghanistan this year, roughly doubling the U.S. footprint to 68,000 in a year.





But there's at least one soldier that won't be going. We've reported in this space about Specialist Victor Agosto, who has refused to deploy to Afghanistan for what he calls an "illegal war". Alas, military justice has done it's thing, and he's headed for Leavenworth.


FORT HOOD, Texas - A Fort Hood soldier was sentenced yesterday to a month in jail for refusing to deploy to Afghanistan because he says the war violates international law.

Specialist Victor Agosto, 24, of Miami, pleaded guilty to disobeying lawful orders and was sentenced at the central Texas Army post. The judge also reduced his rank to the Army’s lowest level, a private, which also was part of the maximum penalty he faced in his plea agreement with the military.

Also, Agosto cannot be discharged at a level lower than other-than-honorable conditions, an administrative discharge. A discharge was not mentioned in the hearing, but Agosto is expected to be released from the Army after completing his jail term.

Before he was sentenced, Agosto told the judge he should not be jailed because he posed no threat to anyone.

He said he had remained on post and went to work every day since refusing to deploy after learning a few months ago the Army was keeping him beyond his enlistment date.

He said he did not apply for conscientious objector status because that requires opposition to all wars, and he does not believe that all war is wrong.

“I really had no Army way of being consistent with my conscience,’’ Agosto said.

Agosto said he began to oppose the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan after he served a 13-month tour in Iraq.




Lastly this morning, we will take a look into Iraq, again, for a story we've blogged about before. Soldiers face enough hazards every day; their shower shouldn't be one of them. It's one death among many, but KBR gets off scott-free in the electrocution death of SSgt. Ryan Maseth. According to the story, investigators could not find "sufficient evidence to prove or disprove" any wrongdoing.


WASHINGTON - No criminal charges will be filed against military contractor KBR Inc. in connection with the electrocution of a Green Beret soldier who died while showering in his barracks in Iraq, the Defense Department said yesterday.

Investigators said there was “insufficient evidence to prove or disprove’’ that anyone was criminally culpable in the January 2008 death of Staff Sergeant Ryan Maseth, 24, of Pittsburgh. The uproar over his death triggered a review of 17 other electrocution deaths in Iraq and widespread inspections.

Maseth’s death was at first ruled an accident. But later, an Army investigator called the death a “negligent homicide,’’ caused by Houston-based KBR and two of its supervisors, and said it had failed to ensure that qualified electricians and plumbers worked on the building where Maseth died, according to an internal document obtained by the Associated Press.

Yesterday, the Defense Department said that while both contractors and government employees “breached their respective duties of care,’’ the US Army Criminal Investigation Command determined that none of the breaches alone were “the proximate cause of his death.’’ Army criminal investigators also concurred that the manner of death was accidental.

Maseth’s mother, Cheryl Harris, said the findings were heartbreaking and disappointing.

“According to the CID, there were so many failures on KBR’s part that they couldn’t assign all of the blame to any one person and therefore told us they were not going to file charges, which tells me that the CID doesn’t know or is ignorant [of] the evidence I do know exists,’’ said Harris, who met with Army criminal investigators yesterday afternoon.

Last week, the Defense Department’s inspector general said that Maseth died when he came in contact with an energized metal shower and hose caused by the failure of an ungrounded water pump located on the roof of the building installed by KBR. The inspector general said KBR did not ground equipment during installation or report improperly grounded equipment during maintenance, nor did it have standard operating procedures for inspections.



Support the troops, indeed.


 

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Comment by TriSec on 08/11/2009 10:30:06
Bonus clicky:



The president is in NH today. I'll be heading out in just a few minutes to join my brother and his union buddies to put on a show of support to counter the anticipated wingnuttia that will be present.



I hope there won't be violence or arrests, but you never know.



I'll be posting updates on both Facebook and Twitter; see you out there!



Comment by wickedpam on 08/11/2009 12:34:32
Morning



Stay safe Tri!

Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/11/2009 12:50:13
Morning all.



Finally starting vacation, sitting outside waiting for Mama to come on.

Comment by wickedpam on 08/11/2009 13:03:49
Have fun TJ

Comment by Scoopster on 08/11/2009 13:10:38
Mornin' peeps..



My lower arms are all achy and I have no idea why. haven't really done anything strenuous in a while..

Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/11/2009 13:11:43
We don't get the first hour of SMS on the radio here, so I feed my AM transmitter in the computer room with the KTLK stream so I can listen outside without having to deal with the crappy laptop speakers. AM1150 is really AM1580 around this condo.



The radio itself is about as old as Mama is...

Comment by wickedpam on 08/11/2009 13:43:29


Comment by wickedpam on 08/11/2009 13:44:17
Is the Span covering the whole town hall? when's it start I wanted to atleast listen to it

Comment by Raine on 08/11/2009 14:08:24
Good Morning.



KBR...





Comment by Raine on 08/11/2009 14:09:20
Quote by wickedpam:

Is the Span covering the whole town hall? when's it start I wanted to atleast listen to it


Audio only here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/live/

Comment by wickedpam on 08/11/2009 14:11:32
danke

Comment by Raine on 08/11/2009 14:12:32
Hillary was really kinda not cool with that comment.

Comment by wickedpam on 08/11/2009 14:15:29
She definatly could have handled it better

Comment by Scoopster on 08/11/2009 14:17:43
Ohhhh my..



http://www.duelinganalogs.com/comics/2009-08-10.png


Comment by wickedpam on 08/11/2009 14:35:42
here's a naive question - who's 4chan?

Comment by Raine on 08/11/2009 14:43:21
It is a humid one today...

Comment by Scoopster on 08/11/2009 14:43:21
Quote by wickedpam:

here's a naive question - who's 4chan?




It's an image-board website, loosely based on 2chan (aka Futaba in Japan). Chances are you know the deeds of the people there well but don't know the site itself.



Wiki - 4chan



and more accurately... Encyclopedia Dramatica entry on 4chan

Comment by wickedpam on 08/11/2009 15:07:46
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by wickedpam:

here's a naive question - who's 4chan?




It's an image-board website, loosely based on 2chan (aka Futaba in Japan). Chances are you know the deeds of the people there well but don't know the site itself.



Wiki - 4chan



and more accurately... Encyclopedia Dramatica entry on 4chan




ah



Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/11/2009 15:11:12
Quote by Raine:

It is a humid one today...




Yes, definitely. H-H-H.



Comment by Raine on 08/11/2009 15:14:22
What? A Republican Says Obama won't kill gramma or baby on a death panel.



I Am off to write a thank you letter to my senator.

Comment by BobR on 08/11/2009 15:16:22
Quote by Raine:

What? A Republican Says Obama won't kill gramma or baby on a death panel.



I Am off to write a thank you letter to my senator.


common sense - what a concept. I'll give him kudos for standing up to the Queen of the Republican party.

Comment by Raine on 08/11/2009 15:20:11
Hank Johnsons health care forum was last nite.
Civil, well-mannered, asking smart questions – that may not sound like one of these town hall meetings on health care reform.



But the nearly 2,000 people who gathered Monday night at George Perimeter College in Clarkston offered a lesson to the rest of the nation on how civil discourse doesn’t have to spiral into civil disobedience. [...]



Rules were announced: no signs, no derogatory language, and no calling out as each speaker took their two minutes to have their say.




Maybe everyone should try it like that.

Comment by Raine on 08/11/2009 15:42:12
Comment by Raine on 08/11/2009 15:49:41
Man with gun...reporting now on MSNBC. The guy is on private property, a nearby church, and the gun is registered so the police are letting him stay.





Reporter said he will be removed before the President arrives.



Comment by Raine on 08/11/2009 15:59:58
Bite me wingers..... Don't tell me Dems spend more than you.





http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh288/krispos42/Unsorted/Natl_Debt_Chart.jpg


Comment by livingonli on 08/11/2009 16:01:19
A belated good day to everyone.



I just did not want to get out of bed this morning but I'm here. Hopefully I may get my car back today.

Comment by livingonli on 08/11/2009 16:28:06
Everyone went to lunch and I haven't even had breakfast yet.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/11/2009 16:29:20
Good afternoon, liv.

Comment by wickedpam on 08/11/2009 16:30:25


Comment by wickedpam on 08/11/2009 16:34:56
oohhh looks like C-Span gonna cover the Pres' town hall at 1pm :D

Comment by Raine on 08/11/2009 16:37:23
keerist. This shit HAS to stop.

Rep. Scott’s office vandalized with four-foot swastika. (after a Glenn beck Attack on TV)

Comment by Raine on 08/11/2009 16:37:58
Quote by wickedpam:

oohhh looks like C-Span gonna cover the Pres' town hall at 1pm :D


linkity?

Comment by starling310 on 08/11/2009 16:43:28
I am so much in agreement with Thom right now.



God, I love that man.

Comment by Scoopster on 08/11/2009 16:44:25
After listening to Rush Limbaugh, batshit insane woman "interviewed" by Fox News fears rationing of toilet paper.



Obviously it's because of all the shit coming out of her and Rush's mouths.

Comment by Raine on 08/11/2009 16:47:57
Quote by starling310:

I am so much in agreement with Thom right now.



God, I love that man.
We are busy moving a couch right now and am missing him!



Comment by starling310 on 08/11/2009 16:52:20
Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

I am so much in agreement with Thom right now.



God, I love that man.
We are busy moving a couch right now and am missing him!





He just makes so much SENSE!



Comment by wickedpam on 08/11/2009 16:55:45
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

oohhh looks like C-Span gonna cover the Pres' town hall at 1pm :D


linkity?




They don't have specific link yet just a little note on the front page with a camera emoticon-thingy

Cspan



looks like its going to be on C-Span 1

Comment by wickedpam on 08/11/2009 17:00:15
Comment by wickedpam on 08/11/2009 17:04:08
just starting

Comment by wickedpam on 08/11/2009 17:07:04
and the crowd goes nuts!

Comment by Raine on 08/11/2009 17:09:58
Quote by wickedpam:

and the crowd goes nuts!




Comment by Raine on 08/11/2009 17:12:54
1/3 of the recovery act act went to TAX CUTS!

(Barry is a failure say the freepers)



1/3 went to emergency relief --- for example unemployment benefits

(Barry is a socialist say the freepers)





1/3 is for shovel ready jobs -- nurses, roadwork --- and is funneled to LOCAL business

( Barry is a NAZI socialist FAILURE say the freepers)

Comment by starling310 on 08/11/2009 17:13:34
YAY! I just added the RSS feed for 4F to my nifty new smart phone.



Comment by Raine on 08/11/2009 17:15:57
Thank you Mr President!!!!

Comment by Raine on 08/11/2009 17:16:32
Quote by starling310:

YAY! I just added the RSS feed for 4F to my nifty new smart phone.

Shweet!



What phone? I am getting a new on in October...



Comment by starling310 on 08/11/2009 17:20:55
Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

YAY! I just added the RSS feed for 4F to my nifty new smart phone.

Shweet!



What phone? I am getting a new on in October...





Nokia E71! So far, it's fabu. . .







http://mobilearsenal.com/dl/cnt/2008-06/32863/38090_nokia_e71-1.jpg


Comment by wickedpam on 08/11/2009 17:22:12
He is making a laughing stock of these deathers and lobbyist shills!

Comment by wickedpam on 08/11/2009 17:37:10
think that answer is a little over the little girls head

Comment by Scoopster on 08/11/2009 17:37:30
Ugh.. I've been stuck brain farting on this one ad listing i've gotta write all damn day.

Comment by Raine on 08/11/2009 17:51:16
Quote by wickedpam:

think that answer is a little over the little girls head
Possibly.



This is still amazing stuff.