he was informed of the intelligence report last week, but said U.S. intelligence chief Mike McConnell told him in August there was new information on Iran.
"He didn't tell me what the information was. He did tell me it was going to take a while to analyze," Bush said.
Blogger Josh Marshall examines Bush's wording at that press conference and notes: "It's no longer the need to prevent the Iranians from getting the bomb. Now it's the necessity of 'preventing them from hav[ing] the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon.'
"That's the tell.
"That change is no accident. He wants claims that will survive the eventual revelation of this new intelligence -- while also continuing to hype the imminence of the Iranian nuclear threat that his spy chiefs are telling him likely does not exist."
Hersh: "At the time, I wrote that there was a tremendous fight about it, because Cheney in the White House -- the vice president did not want to hear this. So that there was a fight about that intelligence. And, actually, for the last year, I think the vice president's office pretty much has kept -- you know, the vice president has kept his foot on the neck of that report. That report was bottled up for a year.
"The intelligence we learned about yesterday has been circulating inside this government at the highest levels for the last year -- and probably longer."
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Quote by Mondobubba: Grossly incompetent liar.
Quote by Raine: Freedom needs religion and relifion needs freedom. I will not be letting anyone forget that.
Mitt doesn't have a clue about our founding father's.
Quote by starling310: Hello! Hello!
Dropped off Farley at the vet AGAIN. . . having his ultrasound today.
Freedom needs religion like a fish needs a bicycle.
Freedom needs religion like a fish needs a bicycle.
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Ultrasound? Poor lil feller! :hug:
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Ultrasound? Poor lil feller! :hug:
Yessir. . . Blood tests are normal. They are investigating a slight heart murmur and some minor weight loss.
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Freedom needs religion like a fish needs a bicycle.
I like that!
Good mornign Mondo tri liv and Star!
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Freedom needs religion like a fish needs a bicycle.
I like that!
Good mornign Mondo tri liv and Star!
Alas I cannot take credit. It isn't my saying.
Did anyone catch Zach Braff's shirt last night on SCRUBS?
It was the a picture of the Democratic Donkey and underneath that it said "Ass Man."
:rofl:
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Ultrasound? Poor lil feller! :hug:
Yessir. . . Blood tests are normal. They are investigating a slight heart murmur and some minor weight loss.
I've missed something haven't I?
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Damnit no! :kick: damn me being social and quaffing beer with friends.
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Yes, I am recently without girlfriend, so I was sitting home feeling a bit sorry for myself and catching up on Tivo.
Hi everyone, and a Merry Christmas to you all! (Bill-o, HA!)
I was wondering….if we ask really nicely, do you think we could have Kim Jong-il read us “The night before Christmas” or “The Grinch” for the holiday?
I hear he also has a tremendous singing voice…we’d love to hear the “Twelve days of Christmas”, too!
Be Merry!
TriSec from the blog!
Speaking of which, when are we going to see you around our little corner of the internets?
http://www.fourfreedomsblog.com/BlogList.php
Quote by Raine: Btw, thanks tri, the santa fart song is now earworming in my head!
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Damnit no! :kick: damn me being social and quaffing beer with friends.
Yes, I am recently without girlfriend, so I was sitting home feeling a bit sorry for myself and catching up on Tivo.
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Yes, I am recently without girlfriend, so I was sitting home feeling a bit sorry for myself and catching up on Tivo.
Hopefully you'll find someone better. If she couldn't accept your acting time, then she wasn't the right one.
After her hour-long speech and question-and-answer session, Plame dropped one bombshell almost casually. She said a lawyer had called her just before her talk began and told her that special prosecutor Patrick J. Fitzgerald had agreed to turn his transcripts of interviews with Mr. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney over to U. S. Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., who is known for his relish for investigating wrongdoing by Republicans. Plame said she didnÕt know whether the Bush administration would allow the transcripts to be sent to Congress.
Quote by Raine: Plame: Fitzgerald has agreed to turn over transcripts of interviews of Bush and Cheney over to Waxman
After her hour-long speech and question-and-answer session, Plame dropped one bombshell almost casually.
She said a lawyer had called her just before her talk began and told her that special prosecutor Patrick J. Fitzgerald had agreed to turn his transcripts of interviews with Mr. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney over to U. S. Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., who is known for his relish for investigating wrongdoing by Republicans.
Plame said she didnÕt know whether the Bush administration would allow the transcripts to be sent to Congress.
Quote by Raine: Good news for me too! I have made my dad and his vet friends blush! :D
Quote by Mondobubba:You little potty mouth! :clap:Quote by Raine: Good news for me too! I have made my dad and his vet friends blush! :D
Quote by livingonli: Isn't praying in public the mark of the hypocirte according to Jesus?
Quote by livingonli:just posted at AAP a few minutes ago, but he hasn't been here lately.
Quote by starling310: "The faith of my fathers. . . " Fathers? Plural?
Quote by BobR:Quote by livingonli:just posted at AAP a few minutes ago, but he hasn't been here lately.
He seems to be having some trouble with the site... :shrug:
Quote by TriSec: NOW will you come and visit Boston?
It's not in China yet, Sam is still brewed locally in Jamaica Plain...
Quote by TriSec: NOW will you come and visit Boston?
It's not in China yet, Sam is still brewed locally in Jamaica Plain...
Quote by starling310: "The faith of my fathers. . . " Fathers? Plural?
Quote by Raine: The nest time we are up North... Boston baby!
Quote by BobR:Maybe we should call him "Mutt" Romney...Quote by starling310: "The faith of my fathers. . . " Fathers? Plural?
Quote by starling310: Speaking of Tweety Bird, what was with his random "I support Gay Marriage" comment last night?
Aw Tweety.![]()
Quote by starling310: Speaking of Tweety Bird, what was with his random "I support Gay Marriage" comment last night? Aw Tweety.![]()
Quote by wickedpam: Hey guys don't forget about - BLOGGER JOE ( aka Secret Santa) It’s that time of year again, this time I thought we could do a Cross Blog Blogger Joe with our friends at AAP! If you would like to participate just... 1) Email me (snotra@comtekmail.com) by Friday, December 7th, with your Name and the Address were you would like to have something sent. Also include a list of items that you do not wish to receive for reasons of allergies or ethics (i.e. leather, alcohol, etc.). 2) On Monday, December 10th I will draw names and PM or email you back with the Name and Address of the Blogger Joe you are to gift. 3) Shop or create something for your Blogger Joe, but spend no more then $10 on that gift. 4) Send your gift to you Blogger Joe so that they will receive it during the week of December 19th, so we call open them together on either 12/21 or 12/24. 5) Enjoy and have fun! We even have a blog entry for it if you have questions.
Quote by starling310: OMG....Mommaplease stop doing the "Mortgage Minute Guy" spots! Roger Schlesinger just quoted the infamous Ronald Reagan "I've always thought the 9 scariest words in the English language are 'I'm from the Government and I'm here to help'" line, in talking about the Mortgage crisis.
And, he continues to pedal ARMs.
:thud:
Quote by wickedpam: Okay, I have to confess, I make suck coffee![]()
Quote by starling310: OMG....Mommaplease stop doing the "Mortgage Minute Guy" spots! Roger Schlesinger just quoted the infamous Ronald Reagan "I've always thought the 9 scariest words in the English language are 'I'm from the Government and I'm here to help'" line, in talking about the Mortgage crisis. And, he continues to pedal ARMs. :thud:
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Ouch. Bummah.
What kind of beans do you use?
My coffee secret is ALWAYS use less than they say....especially if it's Starbucks, for example.
If your coffee is bitter, a pinch of salt in the dry grounds helps.
And, always remove the grounds immediately after brewing. Otherwise they will continue to drip bitter bean oil into your fresh pot.
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Ouch. Bummah.
What kind of beans do you use?
My coffee secret is ALWAYS use less than they say....especially if it's Starbucks, for example.
If your coffee is bitter, a pinch of salt in the dry grounds helps.
And, always remove the grounds immediately after brewing. Otherwise they will continue to drip bitter bean oil into your fresh pot.
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Whatever Maxwell House uses - mom does not like to have to grind beans. I'll try that salt thing and removing the grounds next time I make coffee. Never realized how bad it was till I ran out of flavored creamer.
Quote by Raine:Aside from all ofQuote by wickedpam: Okay, I have to confess, I make suck coffee![]()
amazing suggestions... (I did not know! Salt? ) I would say that it begins with a good bean.
Quote by livingonli: Don't forget. Momma and AAR have run ads for Glenn Beck's show.![]()
Quote by Raine:Aside from all ofQuote by wickedpam: Okay, I have to confess, I make suck coffee![]()
amazing suggestions... (I did not know! Salt? ) I would say that it begins with a good bean.
Quote by Raine:Speaki9ng of Glen Beck... did anyone hear last night when KO sauid tht he was a Mormon? I am still a bit bewildered by this, since Mormons are not supposed to drink, and I think Genny ... er... I mean Glenny has said that he is a recovering Acholholic... :scratchhead:Quote by livingonli: Don't forget. Momma and AAR have run ads for Glenn Beck's show.![]()
Quote by Raine: YEah, I must say, Maxwell house makes the worse coffee out there. I think it is 90% chickory!
MALA! we WILL get you a good brew that will make you and MommaMala happy!
Quote by wickedpam: Star & Raine - MommaMala goes for what is cheap and at Costco. I guess raised with a depression era mindset and not having a lot of money growing up makes you think money first. :shrug:
I have some ethopian fair trade beans I got at the York Co Farmers market in the freezer (I probably shouldn't have them there) that I'll grind up this weekend, plus I have some Starbucks, all of these gotten before Mom moved in.
Quote by livingonli: Will W move to Paraguy after he's done as "Prez-eee-dennt"?
Quote by wickedpam: Star & Raine - MommaMala goes for what is cheap and at Costco. I guess raised with a depression era mindset and not having a lot of money growing up makes you think money first. :shrug:
I have some ethopian fair trade beans I got at the York Co Farmers market in the freezer (I probably shouldn't have them there) that I'll grind up this weekend, plus I have some Starbucks, all of these gotten before Mom moved in.
Quote by livingonli: I may be the odd duck who doesn't drink coffee. Maybe that's why I always need a nap.![]()
Matthews is married to Kathleen R. Matthews, who anchored News 7 on WJLA-TV, the ABC affiliate in Washington, D.C before accepting a position as an Executive Vice President with J.W. Marriott. .
Quote by wickedpam:I just really started drinking it recently, it's 0 points if I don't put creamer in it so I can drink as much as I want.Quote by livingonli: I may be the odd duck who doesn't drink coffee. Maybe that's why I always need a nap.![]()
Quote by livingonli: But do they still offer porn PPV in the hotel rooms?
Quote by Raine:I am not sure, but somehow I would say no, since they can make money for it.Quote by livingonli: But do they still offer porn PPV in the hotel rooms?![]()
Quote by livingonli:Hotels make more money from the porn movies than the regular Hollywood films on in-room PPV/VOD.Quote by Raine:I am not sure, but somehow I would say no, since they can make money for it.Quote by livingonli: But do they still offer porn PPV in the hotel rooms?![]()
Quote by starling310:Quote by wickedpam: Star & Raine - MommaMala goes for what is cheap and at Costco. I guess raised with a depression era mindset and not having a lot of money growing up makes you think money first. :shrug:
I have some ethopian fair trade beans I got at the York Co Farmers market in the freezer (I probably shouldn't have them there) that I'll grind up this weekend, plus I have some Starbucks, all of these gotten before Mom moved in.
Tell Mom to leave the coffee to you! You can get economical coffee that's better than Maxwell House. She'll learn to love it.
OR, maybe you can just get her some Folgers Crystals Instant coffee. :lol:
:puke:
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Quote by Raine:Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:I am not sure, but somehow I would say no, since they can make money for it.Quote by livingonli: But do they still offer porn PPV in the hotel rooms?![]()
Hotels make more money from the porn movies than the regular Hollywood films on in-room PPV/VOD.
I should not be surprised at this should i?
But yes, blog sites like America Blog have been blocked at marriot.
AMERICABLOG!
MArriot blocks them and supports Romney. you connect the dots about what would happen if this man is elected.
Quote by Mondobubba::Wayne's World dream sequence hand gesture: Deeedeee deedeee deeedeee Jules: damn Jimmy this coffee is some serious gormet shit. We'd been happy with some Taster's Choice.Quote by starling310:Tell Mom to leave the coffee to you! You can get economical coffee that's better than Maxwell House. She'll learn to love it. OR, maybe you can just get her some Folgers Crystals Instant coffee. :lol: :puke:Quote by wickedpam: Star & Raine - MommaMala goes for what is cheap and at Costco. I guess raised with a depression era mindset and not having a lot of money growing up makes you think money first. :shrug: I have some ethopian fair trade beans I got at the York Co Farmers market in the freezer (I probably shouldn't have them there) that I'll grind up this weekend, plus I have some Starbucks, all of these gotten before Mom moved in.
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:rofl:
Quote by Raine:Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:I am not sure, but somehow I would say no, since they can make money for it.Quote by livingonli: But do they still offer porn PPV in the hotel rooms?![]()
Hotels make more money from the porn movies than the regular Hollywood films on in-room PPV/VOD.
I should not be surprised at this should i?
But yes, blog sites like America Blog have been blocked at marriot.
AMERICABLOG!
MArriot blocks them and supports Romney. you connect the dots about what would happen if this man is elected.
Quote by Raine::rofl: Mala... we are so gonna get you and momma right with the coffee... I promise!Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by starling310:Quote by wickedpam: Star & Raine - MommaMala goes for what is cheap and at Costco. I guess raised with a depression era mindset and not having a lot of money growing up makes you think money first. :shrug:
I have some ethopian fair trade beans I got at the York Co Farmers market in the freezer (I probably shouldn't have them there) that I'll grind up this weekend, plus I have some Starbucks, all of these gotten before Mom moved in.
Tell Mom to leave the coffee to you! You can get economical coffee that's better than Maxwell House. She'll learn to love it.
OR, maybe you can just get her some Folgers Crystals Instant coffee. :lol:
:puke:
:Wayne's World dream sequence hand gesture: Deeedeee deedeee deeedeee
Jules: damn Jimmy this coffee is some serious gormet shit. We'd been happy with some Taster's Choice.
Just do the ENTIRE blog a favour... SAVE the MAxwell house coffee cans! ;)
Quote by Mondobubba:We'll all be forced to stay at marriotts???Quote by Raine:I should not be surprised at this should i? But yes, blog sites like America Blog have been blocked at marriot. AMERICABLOG! MArriot blocks them and supports Romney. you connect the dots about what would happen if this man is elected.Quote by livingonli:Hotels make more money from the porn movies than the regular Hollywood films on in-room PPV/VOD.Quote by Raine:I am not sure, but somehow I would say no, since they can make money for it.Quote by livingonli: But do they still offer porn PPV in the hotel rooms?![]()
Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:I am not sure, but somehow I would say no, since they can make money for it.Quote by livingonli: But do they still offer porn PPV in the hotel rooms?![]()
Hotels make more money from the porn movies than the regular Hollywood films on in-room PPV/VOD.
I should not be surprised at this should i?
But yes, blog sites like America Blog have been blocked at marriot.
AMERICABLOG!
MArriot blocks them and supports Romney. you connect the dots about what would happen if this man is elected.
We'll all be forced to stay at marriotts???
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Did I get too tinfoily?
:P
Quote by Raine: I think I want Bernie Sanders as President.
Quote by Raine: 57 fillibusters. That is what has happened since the dems came into power after the Dems took power. Disgusting.
Quote by BobR: Listening to music from local band Five Star Iris...
They're playing in town tonight and I'm too broke to go see them... :(
Quote by livingonli: It shows how bad it is in the economy when you can't even go out. It becomes cheaper just to stay home and watch TV.
Quote by BobR:Quote by livingonli: It shows how bad it is in the economy when you can't even go out. It becomes cheaper just to stay home and watch TV.
well - it's always been cheaper to stay home and watch TV, but it used to be affordable to go out once or twice a week. Now it's barely every other weekend...
Quote by starling310: IT'S SNOWING!!!! :banana:
Quote by Raine: OK, Randi, have some patience with your callers. DO not mock them.we are all on the same team here,ya know? Some of us are not as good as you and that is why you have a radio show... BUT... your listeners are the reason why you still have a show.![]()
Quote by starling310: why is randi having a bad week? wassamatta? you got money to go out dontcha randi? that would put me in a better mood. my friend is going for sushi and i can't afford to join. DAMMIT!![]()
Quote by starling310: I will miss Shelley now.Ok. Done.
Quote by Raine:Quote by starling310: why is randi having a bad week? wassamatta? you got money to go out dontcha randi? that would put me in a better mood.
my friend is going for sushi and i can't afford to join. DAMMIT!![]()
This is where She sometimes loses me. I know she is doign alright... sh has a NYC apt an a place in Florida. adn I do not begrudge her that.but sistah, don't whine to me about troubles. defend me from the troubles, don't whine about yours. my note to sistah: I am glad you are doing better than I am, but we have a small group of people who have scrapped a few bucks together to keep a small community going... and Randi, my dear.... you don't have to ever do that.
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Ok. Done.
:hug:
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Did we get enough for the 12/12 deadline?
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Did we get enough for the 12/12 deadline?
It's going to be very, very close. I'm still holding out hope we'll get some more donations from other members in time...
Quote by starling310: Yay Rachel coming up! I don't get to hear her very often. But, she's growing on me. . . like fungus.
Quote by Raine:IQuote by starling310: Yay Rachel coming up! I don't get to hear her very often. But, she's growing on me. . . like fungus.the Dr. / She and and all of Unfilterd are a big reason for the fact that bob and I are together today. seriously. Go to AAP and search for the unfiltered Tshirt tour. Through that thread, bob and I met.
And... I promise one day,you will here the entire story.
Quote by BobR: btw - yesterday I got an email for a survey created by Sam Sedar asking questions about what shows I listened to, what sites I read, blogs, etc... Naturally, I pimped FourFreedomsBlog....![]()
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big hoowah! ...
Quote by livingonli: It's very salty here tonight. Listening to Randi on the way in, I heard her call the Mormon "magic underpants' and her say "lying sack of crap". Sounds like someone is snarfing Stephisms. Tonight, we are in heavy load in MSG/FSNY country. Knicks-Sixers on MSG. Rangers-Thrashers on MSG2. Islandres-Panthers on FSN New York And a Devils game on FSN New York 2. It looks like heavy lurk mode and I won't be getting out until 2 AM probably tonight.
Quote by starling310:Who you callin' a big hoowah? :modbat:Quote by Raine:] big hoowah! ...
Quote by Raine:yo dude. prove me wrong...Quote by starling310:Who you callin' a big hoowah? :modbat:Quote by Raine:] big hoowah! ......(off to the penalty box I go! )
Quote by Raine: I love the Hobo Gloves, I know I should not, but ?I love them ...Also I must add that I know the Cumberland farms!
They are not down here. but I know the Cumberland farms! one of my fave pairt of sunglasses came from that chain!
Quote by starling310: Bring it Sister Raine! Bring it! Takes one to know one!![]()
Quote by starling310: Whenever a big news story breaks, and I watch Olberman I think of Ralphie ( A Christmas Story ) talking about the Radio Narrator. I wish I could think of the exact line, but it's something like "Olberman was in good voice tonight. . . "
Quote by MMB: Hi Everyone, I was just wondering Raine or BobR if the donations are still needed? I really hope that nobody minds me being here. I really could use a friendly place to just be accepted for just being myself. Let me know if we still need the donations ok. Later![]()
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