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Choose one: Liar or Grossly Incompetent
Author: BobR    Date: 12/07/2007 13:13:39

It seems like deja vu all over again. A news report makes us ask the question: Is Bush a liar or just grossly incompetent?... and which one is worse?

The big news of course is that a recently declassified NIE reports that Iran abandoned its nuclear program 4 years ago. This raises a lot of questions: What did the president know and when did he know it? Why is he just now talking about this? Let's take a look at both of these...

Bush stated in a press conference on Tues that:
he was informed of the intelligence report last week, but said U.S. intelligence chief Mike McConnell told him in August there was new information on Iran.

"He didn't tell me what the information was. He did tell me it was going to take a while to analyze," Bush said.

So he was told in August, but... did the President of the United States ask what the information was? It would seem that new information on one of the "axis of evil" would arouse his curiousity. If it didn't, does he deserve to be president? Did he run away with his fingers in his ears yelling "la la la - I can't hear you!"?

Or - as has been suggested by Dan Froomkin of the Washington Post and Josh Marshall of Talking Points Memo - Bush DID learn of the details in August. They point out subtle change in his use of words:
Blogger Josh Marshall examines Bush's wording at that press conference and notes: "It's no longer the need to prevent the Iranians from getting the bomb. Now it's the necessity of 'preventing them from hav[ing] the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon.'

"That's the tell.

"That change is no accident. He wants claims that will survive the eventual revelation of this new intelligence -- while also continuing to hype the imminence of the Iranian nuclear threat that his spy chiefs are telling him likely does not exist."

That would point to Bush deliberately lying and trying to scare the American people into supporting a war with Iran. Which is better - lying or incompetence... and does it matter?

The other big question is why it took until last August for the information to reach the oval office. The apparent reason: Cheney suppressed it.
Hersh: "At the time, I wrote that there was a tremendous fight about it, because Cheney in the White House -- the vice president did not want to hear this. So that there was a fight about that intelligence. And, actually, for the last year, I think the vice president's office pretty much has kept -- you know, the vice president has kept his foot on the neck of that report. That report was bottled up for a year.

"The intelligence we learned about yesterday has been circulating inside this government at the highest levels for the last year -- and probably longer."

If this is true - and it rings true - then the articles of impeachment against Cheney should be brought out of committee immediately, and voted on forthwith. Abuse of power to encourage war with another country cannot be tolerated (again).

We might was well write up impeachment papers for Bush too. He tries to appear incompetent because that's not an impeachable offense, but his lies are just too apparent this time. They both need to go ASAP.

If you missed Keith Olbermann's Special Comment last night, you should watch it. He discusses this with a passion and language that is rare and rarified in today's media.

The only bonus from this? CNN had to cancel a special on the rush to war with Iran.

 

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Comment by TriSec on 12/07/2007 13:19:33
And again I'm left to wonder what it's going to take in order to get Americans to take to the streets and demand a full accounting.



I look at other places around the world, and they have general strikes at the drop of a hat. Here we have lies, war, and dead Americans and there's nary a whisper...





Comment by Mondobubba on 12/07/2007 14:07:44
Grossly incompetent liar.

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/07/2007 14:13:21
I Farted on Santa's Lap? :rofl:

Comment by TriSec on 12/07/2007 14:22:17


Comment by Mondobubba on 12/07/2007 14:25:29
Quote by TriSec:






Why thankee, tri.

Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 14:35:25
Quote by Mondobubba: Grossly incompetent liar.


If the media did its job, they would have pointed it out years ago because I knew it for years.



BTW, Good morning everyone.

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 14:35:39
good morning!

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/07/2007 14:36:46
Howdy Livin, howdy Raine! :hug:

Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 14:38:59
John Bolton is certifiably insane.

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/07/2007 14:41:39
Lying sack of cute. :rofl:

Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 14:42:12
Naughty Zoot, she must be spanked.



"We all must be spanked."



"And then the oral sex."

Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 14:50:59
If they think everyone should go to church, what about the fact that W doesn't go to church on Sunday because his church spoke out against the Iraq war?

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/07/2007 14:52:34
Beef on wick a miricle! :rofl:

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 14:53:57
Iwould like to say that I was comepletly insulted when I heard Mitt Say that. I don't need religion to be free. This was so damn wrong it was disgusting.

Comment by TriSec on 12/07/2007 14:54:51
Gee, and to think that we left the Catholic church over something pedestrian, that being the abuse of children by priests.



Who knew that I was stabbing freedom in the back??



Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 14:55:20
Freedom needs religion and relifion needs freedom. I will not be letting anyone forget that. Mitt doesn't have a clue about our founding father's.

Comment by TriSec on 12/07/2007 14:57:19
Funny, every time I visit Lexington or Concord, I commune with the Founding Fathers and the Patriots and worship my deepest beliefs...



"We hold these truths to be self-evident...."





Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 14:57:40
Quote by Raine: Freedom needs religion and relifion needs freedom. I will not be letting anyone forget that.



Mitt doesn't have a clue about our founding father's.


After all, they remembered the Reformation and those lovely acts of tolerance like those in the Mass. colony which chased out anyone who wasn't puritan while they burned anyone suspected of being "a witch".

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 14:58:06
Hello! Hello!

Dropped off Farley at the vet AGAIN. . . having his ultrasound today.



Freedom needs religion like a fish needs a bicycle.

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/07/2007 15:00:24
Quote by starling310: Hello! Hello!

Dropped off Farley at the vet AGAIN. . . having his ultrasound today.



Freedom needs religion like a fish needs a bicycle.




Ultrasound? Poor lil feller! :hug:

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 15:01:23
Freedom needs religion like a fish needs a bicycle.
I like that! Good mornign Mondo tri liv and Star!

Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 15:01:39
Poor Farley.

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 15:01:51
Quote by Mondobubba:

Ultrasound? Poor lil feller! :hug:




Yessir. . . Blood tests are normal. They are investigating a slight heart murmur and some minor weight loss.



Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 15:02:24
Good morning Raine Tri Mondo and

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/07/2007 15:04:18
Quote by starling310:
Quote by Mondobubba:

Ultrasound? Poor lil feller! :hug:




Yessir. . . Blood tests are normal. They are investigating a slight heart murmur and some minor weight loss.







I've missed something haven't I?

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 15:05:45
Quote by Raine:


Freedom needs religion like a fish needs a bicycle.


I like that!



Good mornign Mondo tri liv and Star!




Alas I cannot take credit. It isn't my saying.



Did anyone catch Zach Braff's shirt last night on SCRUBS?

It was the a picture of the Democratic Donkey and underneath that it said "Ass Man."





:rofl:

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/07/2007 15:07:14
Quote by starling310:
Quote by Raine:


Freedom needs religion like a fish needs a bicycle.


I like that!



Good mornign Mondo tri liv and Star!




Alas I cannot take credit. It isn't my saying.



Did anyone catch Zach Braff's shirt last night on SCRUBS?

It was the a picture of the Democratic Donkey and underneath that it said "Ass Man."





:rofl:






Damnit no! :kick: damn me being social and quaffing beer with friends.

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 15:08:28
:headscrtch: Yesterday, Tweety thougth Mitt;s speech was his wonderful moment. he loved the speech... And then Tucker went on to hate it. KO did aall the pundits did ... I wonder how tweety will spin all that today. I cannot find the information, but I read somewhere this week that tweety's wife sits on the board of the Marriot Hotel chain... I am still looking for a confirmation.

Comment by TriSec on 12/07/2007 15:12:38
Oh, no....

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 15:14:00
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by starling310:
Quote by Mondobubba:

Ultrasound? Poor lil feller! :hug:




Yessir. . . Blood tests are normal. They are investigating a slight heart murmur and some minor weight loss.







I've missed something haven't I?




Only that he has been to the vet 3 times in the past 2 weeks because I was concerned about a little weight loss. The vet wanted to do blood tests to rule out Feline Leukeimia, Diabetes, or Renal Failure. After that, she wanted an ultrasound to take a look at his little heart.





http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:JdiRGtYwXys82M:http://sixmeatbuffet.com/images/his-heart-is-that-big.jpg


Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 15:14:59
Quote by Mondobubba:





Damnit no! :kick: damn me being social and quaffing beer with friends.




Yes, I am recently without girlfriend, so I was sitting home feeling a bit sorry for myself and catching up on Tivo.



Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 15:16:41
We need to harnass the methane as a renewable fuel. :P

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 15:17:39
http://www.nostarclothing.com/no_star/catalog/images/main/mm_assman.gif


Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 15:17:56
Btw, thanks tri, the santa fart song is now earworming in my head!

Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 15:18:37
Quote by starling310:



Yes, I am recently without girlfriend, so I was sitting home feeling a bit sorry for myself and catching up on Tivo.



Hopefully you'll find someone better. If she couldn't accept your acting time, then she wasn't the right one.

Comment by TriSec on 12/07/2007 15:19:52
Just sent:



Hi everyone, and a Merry Christmas to you all! (Bill-o, HA!)



I was wondering….if we ask really nicely, do you think we could have Kim Jong-il read us “The night before Christmas” or “The Grinch” for the holiday?



I hear he also has a tremendous singing voice…we’d love to hear the “Twelve days of Christmas”, too!



Be Merry!







TriSec from the blog!



Speaking of which, when are we going to see you around our little corner of the internets?



http://www.fourfreedomsblog.com/BlogList.php






Comment by TriSec on 12/07/2007 15:21:14
Quote by Raine: Btw, thanks tri, the santa fart song is now earworming in my head!




I heard it on SomaFm's "Christmas in Frisko" channel the other day, and Mrs TriSec and Javi had to pry me off the floor with a tire-iron...







Comment by Mondobubba on 12/07/2007 15:21:15
Quote by starling310:
Quote by Mondobubba:





Damnit no! :kick: damn me being social and quaffing beer with friends.




Yes, I am recently without girlfriend, so I was sitting home feeling a bit sorry for myself and catching up on Tivo.





:hug:

Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 15:21:26
:clown: just posted at AAP a few minutes ago, but he hasn't been here lately.

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 15:21:56
Good job Tri!



:pray: Please let Kim Jong Il read us a Christmas story!



Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 15:22:47
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by starling310:



Yes, I am recently without girlfriend, so I was sitting home feeling a bit sorry for myself and catching up on Tivo.



Hopefully you'll find someone better. If she couldn't accept your acting time, then she wasn't the right one.




thanks man. . . it was the right thing to do. but, still makes me sad. too bad she and i couldn't have just been friends. we ROCKED as friends.



Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 15:23:17
Plame: Fitzgerald has agreed to turn over transcripts of interviews of Bush and Cheney over to Waxman
After her hour-long speech and question-and-answer session, Plame dropped one bombshell almost casually. She said a lawyer had called her just before her talk began and told her that special prosecutor Patrick J. Fitzgerald had agreed to turn his transcripts of interviews with Mr. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney over to U. S. Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., who is known for his relish for investigating wrongdoing by Republicans. Plame said she didnÕt know whether the Bush administration would allow the transcripts to be sent to Congress.


Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 15:26:50
Good news for me too! I have made my dad and his vet friends blush! :D

Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 15:26:55
Momma is the queen of TMI.

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 15:28:00
Quote by Raine: Plame: Fitzgerald has agreed to turn over transcripts of interviews of Bush and Cheney over to Waxman

After her hour-long speech and question-and-answer session, Plame dropped one bombshell almost casually.



She said a lawyer had called her just before her talk began and told her that special prosecutor Patrick J. Fitzgerald had agreed to turn his transcripts of interviews with Mr. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney over to U. S. Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., who is known for his relish for investigating wrongdoing by Republicans.



Plame said she didnÕt know whether the Bush administration would allow the transcripts to be sent to Congress.










Comment by Mondobubba on 12/07/2007 15:31:54
Quote by Raine: Good news for me too! I have made my dad and his vet friends blush! :D






You little potty mouth! :clap:

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 15:32:35
How many people does it take a conservative candidate to write a speech?
One, they don't need factcheckers.


Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 15:33:49
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine: Good news for me too! I have made my dad and his vet friends blush! :D
You little potty mouth! :clap:
America !!! Fuck yeah!

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 15:35:09
:rofl: Homer Simpson drop :rofl:

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 15:35:55
Future EX husband KO?

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 15:37:12
Schuster to tired to fight with the host.

{Fred_Gump}

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 15:37:51
KO did not like it, Dan Abrams didn't like it. PAt robertson didn't like it. heck I did not see anyone who liked the speech except Chris Mathews... even Tucker did not like it... and that is saying something!

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 15:38:47
"The faith of my fathers. . . " Fathers? Plural?



Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 15:40:58
Isn't praying in public the mark of the hypocirte according to Jesus?

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 15:41:21
I Sam Adams BEer!

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 15:41:51
Quote by livingonli: Isn't praying in public the mark of the hypocirte according to Jesus?




J? Not down with the hypocrites.



Remember when he freaked out because there was money being made in temple?





Comment by BobR on 12/07/2007 15:42:11
Quote by livingonli: just posted at AAP a few minutes ago, but he hasn't been here lately.


He seems to be having some trouble with the site... :shrug:



Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 15:42:41
Quote by starling310: "The faith of my fathers. . . " Fathers? Plural?
oooOOOO0000OOOooo Nice catch!

Comment by TriSec on 12/07/2007 15:43:33
http://www.geocities.com/lager57/sixpacks/samadams1.jpg


Comment by TriSec on 12/07/2007 15:44:44
NOW will you come and visit Boston?



It's not in China yet, Sam is still brewed locally in Jamaica Plain...





Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 15:44:51
Quote by BobR:
Quote by livingonli: just posted at AAP a few minutes ago, but he hasn't been here lately.


He seems to be having some trouble with the site... :shrug:



Must be because of the password/log in problems we were having.

Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 15:46:35
Quote by TriSec: NOW will you come and visit Boston?



It's not in China yet, Sam is still brewed locally in Jamaica Plain...





I've been to Boston several times, just not recently. It's been awhile since I visited Newbury Comics.

Comment by wickedpam on 12/07/2007 15:48:23
Morning! :hug:

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 15:48:39
Ed in Chicago is my favorite. :hug:

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 15:48:40
Judy, judy Jduy.... she got security earlier than originally reported. :bad: Where is Rudy? is he enjoying the respite he is getting while we lambast Mitt... er I mean Willard?

Comment by BobR on 12/07/2007 15:49:27
Quote by TriSec: NOW will you come and visit Boston?



It's not in China yet, Sam is still brewed locally in Jamaica Plain...





Gee - we can't get Sam Adams beer down here.... :rolleyes:

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 15:50:17
The nest time we are up North... Boston baby!

Comment by BobR on 12/07/2007 15:50:22
Quote by starling310: "The faith of my fathers. . . " Fathers? Plural?



Maybe we should call him "Mutt" Romney...

Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 15:50:56
Morning Mala.



Remember when Willard said he was going to be more pro-gay rights than Sen. Edward Kennedy? Maybe that's a speech that should be replayed in honor of flip flop Romney.

Comment by BobR on 12/07/2007 15:51:07
Did Steph almost say "Predisexer"? :lol:

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 15:51:39
Yes, I have been posting about this on the MB. Huck screwed up badly. He was not parole eleigble, and people on the parole board have said they were pressured from Huck to release this man.

Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 15:52:04
Quote by Raine: The nest time we are up North... Boston baby!


Maybe we should have a Boston meet up? It's only a 4 hour drive up for me. But definitely when the weather's warmer.

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 15:52:57
Quote by BobR:
Quote by starling310: "The faith of my fathers. . . " Fathers? Plural?
Maybe we should call him "Mutt" Romney...


Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 15:53:09
: caller : "Before I get off. . . "



: steph's Mom : Oh Dear. . .

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 15:54:03
Landslide! I that song!

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 15:55:14
"Do not drop the Oprah. . . "



Comment by TriSec on 12/07/2007 15:55:40
From TriSec's vault:



"What kind of name is Mitt, anyway? Maybe his parents wanted to name him Tim but were just dyslexic?"



Circa 2002, when he ran for Governor....





Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 15:55:53
I agree about that Barack Obama ad. I welled up. And, I am not "for" Obama.



Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 15:56:39
Interesting point, Although I did write an essay with my big fat crayons in Kindergarten.

Comment by wickedpam on 12/07/2007 15:56:50
That is totally LOST



"Live together, die alone" Jack says it all the time!

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 15:57:20
Oh dear. Mitt Likes the *Lost*

Comment by TriSec on 12/07/2007 15:57:40
Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 16:01:57
Speaking of Tweety Bird, what was with his random "I support Gay Marriage" comment last night?



Aw Tweety.

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 16:02:42
What? The guy who shot up a mall was in and out of mental treatment centers? Oh My God. . . who could've seen that coming?





Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 16:03:16
Quote by starling310: Speaking of Tweety Bird, what was with his random "I support Gay Marriage" comment last night?



Aw Tweety.


He is so schizophrenic, and he'll flip from being semi-reasonable to a right-wing tool just like that.



:snaps fingers:

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 16:03:43
Oh. Bob, to answer your question, I say "LIAR."



Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 16:10:55
TRI! your song!!!

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 16:13:48
Quote by starling310: Speaking of Tweety Bird, what was with his random "I support Gay Marriage" comment last night? Aw Tweety.
HE also went on some rambly thing about civl rights and white guilt. it was a very strnge thing. HE was truly rambly yesterday!

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 16:15:31
Last night, KO was just off the hook with anger. it was stunning stuff.

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 16:17:05
And as I posted last night... the lying sack of cute, Dana perino is REALLY truly cracking under the pressure, I do not see her staying at the job for more than 2 months.

Comment by wickedpam on 12/07/2007 16:17:18
Hey guys don't forget about -



BLOGGER JOE ( aka Secret Santa)



It’s that time of year again, this time I thought we could do a Cross Blog Blogger Joe with our friends at AAP!



If you would like to participate just...



1) Email me (snotra@comtekmail.com) by Friday, December 7th, with your Name and the Address were you would like to have something sent. Also include a list of items that you do not wish to receive for reasons of allergies or ethics (i.e. leather, alcohol, etc.).



2) On Monday, December 10th I will draw names and PM or email you back with the Name and Address of the Blogger Joe you are to gift.



3) Shop or create something for your Blogger Joe, but spend no more then $10 on that gift.



4) Send your gift to you Blogger Joe so that they will receive it during the week of December 19th, so we call open them together on either 12/21 or 12/24.



5) Enjoy and have fun!





We even have a blog entry for it if you have questions.



Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 16:17:19
Anjelica Houston! :bow:

Comment by BobR on 12/07/2007 16:20:48
FI-WAH! :rofl:

Comment by wickedpam on 12/07/2007 16:22:49
Gawd! I hate those Netflix commercials

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 16:23:34
Quote by wickedpam: Hey guys don't forget about - BLOGGER JOE ( aka Secret Santa) It’s that time of year again, this time I thought we could do a Cross Blog Blogger Joe with our friends at AAP! If you would like to participate just... 1) Email me (snotra@comtekmail.com) by Friday, December 7th, with your Name and the Address were you would like to have something sent. Also include a list of items that you do not wish to receive for reasons of allergies or ethics (i.e. leather, alcohol, etc.). 2) On Monday, December 10th I will draw names and PM or email you back with the Name and Address of the Blogger Joe you are to gift. 3) Shop or create something for your Blogger Joe, but spend no more then $10 on that gift. 4) Send your gift to you Blogger Joe so that they will receive it during the week of December 19th, so we call open them together on either 12/21 or 12/24. 5) Enjoy and have fun! We even have a blog entry for it if you have questions.


Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 16:24:30
OMG....Momma please stop doing the "Mortgage Minute Guy" spots! Roger Schlesinger just quoted the infamous Ronald Reagan "I've always thought the 9 scariest words in the English language are 'I'm from the Government and I'm here to help'" line, in talking about the Mortgage crisis.



And, he continues to pedal ARMs.



:thud:

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 16:27:56
LArry Craig and the Anna Nicole smith Judge should start a talk show.

Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 16:31:07
Quote by starling310: OMG....Momma please stop doing the "Mortgage Minute Guy" spots! Roger Schlesinger just quoted the infamous Ronald Reagan "I've always thought the 9 scariest words in the English language are 'I'm from the Government and I'm here to help'" line, in talking about the Mortgage crisis.



And, he continues to pedal ARMs.



:thud:


He should just do infomercials like that other crook Kevin Trudeau.

Comment by wickedpam on 12/07/2007 16:31:21
Okay, I have to confess, I make suck coffee

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 16:34:32
Quote by wickedpam: Okay, I have to confess, I make suck coffee




Ouch. Bummah.

What kind of beans do you use?



My coffee secret is ALWAYS use less than they say....especially if it's Starbucks, for example.

If your coffee is bitter, a pinch of salt in the dry grounds helps.

And, always remove the grounds immediately after brewing. Otherwise they will continue to drip bitter bean oil into your fresh pot.





Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 16:35:06
Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 16:35:21
I'm AWnAHed!

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 16:39:06
Quote by starling310: OMG....Momma please stop doing the "Mortgage Minute Guy" spots! Roger Schlesinger just quoted the infamous Ronald Reagan "I've always thought the 9 scariest words in the English language are 'I'm from the Government and I'm here to help'" line, in talking about the Mortgage crisis. And, he continues to pedal ARMs. :thud:
Snake oil...I am NOT please with Roger. now the other Side of this, is that I am conflicted. I was upset that Faux noise would not show a pro constitution ad. so should I be angry that Momma takes money from Roger?

Comment by BobR on 12/07/2007 16:40:21
Quote by starling310:



Ouch. Bummah.

What kind of beans do you use?



My coffee secret is ALWAYS use less than they say....especially if it's Starbucks, for example.

If your coffee is bitter, a pinch of salt in the dry grounds helps.

And, always remove the grounds immediately after brewing. Otherwise they will continue to drip bitter bean oil into your fresh pot.





Hmm - unless you're using cheap supermarket coffee; then - it's best to buy the darkest version they sell and use more than normal... otherwise, you end up with tinted water.

Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 16:40:45
Don't forget. Momma and AAR have run ads for Glenn Beck's show.

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 16:41:00
Quote by wickedpam: Okay, I have to confess, I make suck coffee
Aside from all of amazing suggestions... (I did not know! Salt? ) I would say that it begins with a good bean.

Comment by wickedpam on 12/07/2007 16:42:46
Quote by starling310:
Quote by wickedpam: Okay, I have to confess, I make suck coffee




Ouch. Bummah.

What kind of beans do you use?



My coffee secret is ALWAYS use less than they say....especially if it's Starbucks, for example.

If your coffee is bitter, a pinch of salt in the dry grounds helps.

And, always remove the grounds immediately after brewing. Otherwise they will continue to drip bitter bean oil into your fresh pot.









Whatever Maxwell House uses - mom does not like to have to grind beans. I'll try that salt thing and removing the grounds next time I make coffee. Never realized how bad it was till I ran out of flavored creamer.



Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 16:43:57
OOh, tri Sec, I am a little jealous of your congressman! HE is wonderful!

Comment by BobR on 12/07/2007 16:44:55
Quote by wickedpam:





Whatever Maxwell House uses - mom does not like to have to grind beans. I'll try that salt thing and removing the grounds next time I make coffee. Never realized how bad it was till I ran out of flavored creamer.



Maxwell House??



We've tried both Kroger and Publix brand coffees, and if you get the darkest roast they make, they're not too bad.

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 16:47:09
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam: Okay, I have to confess, I make suck coffee
Aside from all of amazing suggestions... (I did not know! Salt? ) I would say that it begins with a good bean.





'Zis is true Ms. Raine. Indeed.



And, Mala...you can get a good ground bean so Mom doesn't need to grind.

Quite Frankly, Green Mountain Breakfast Blend, is not too shabby. It's pretty mild. Not bitter. It's got a good flavor, for a quick cuppa.



I love French Press coffee...Mmmm....

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 16:47:18
Quote by livingonli: Don't forget. Momma and AAR have run ads for Glenn Beck's show.
Speaki9ng of Glen Beck... did anyone hear last night when KO sauid tht he was a Mormon? I am still a bit bewildered by this, since Mormons are not supposed to drink, and I think Genny ... er... I mean Glenny has said that he is a recovering Acholholic... :scratchhead:

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 16:48:44
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam: Okay, I have to confess, I make suck coffee
Aside from all of amazing suggestions... (I did not know! Salt? ) I would say that it begins with a good bean.





Yup. Just a pinch. It's help to absorb that bitter bean oil.



Comment by MMB on 12/07/2007 16:49:29
Is it 5:00 anywhere? Oh what the heck I don't even drink but I could use a a great beer set me up make it a double Have a great day!!!!!!

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 16:49:56
YEah, I must say, Maxwell house makes the worse coffee out there. I think it is 90% chickory! MALA! we WILL get you a good brew that will make you and MommaMala happy!

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 16:50:39
Oh....ART....he's a close second to ED IN CHICAGO!



Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 16:50:39
Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli: Don't forget. Momma and AAR have run ads for Glenn Beck's show.
Speaki9ng of Glen Beck... did anyone hear last night when KO sauid tht he was a Mormon? I am still a bit bewildered by this, since Mormons are not supposed to drink, and I think Genny ... er... I mean Glenny has said that he is a recovering Acholholic... :scratchhead:



Unless he converted in recovery, he didn't exactly follow the tenants of his faith.

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 16:51:41
George Romney was a member of the FLDS Church. Very scary stuff. That is the fundemantal arm of the Mormons. They still believe in polygymay.

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 16:51:55
Quote by Raine: YEah, I must say, Maxwell house makes the worse coffee out there. I think it is 90% chickory!



MALA! we WILL get you a good brew that will make you and MommaMala happy!




Yup. Mala, rest assured, this is not Operator Error. You are simply brewing BAD coffee.

:hug:



Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 16:52:24
Did the president say beth *LEE* hem?

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 16:52:53
Oh...If only the lighting of the tree and the rolling of the Easter eggs were his only responsibilities.





Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 16:54:57
The Boy Wonder has lost the will to live.



Comment by BobR on 12/07/2007 16:55:17
Death Star Help Desk:



Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 16:56:02
The mumber he gave out: 1-800-995 hope the number should have been: 1 888 995 hope. What a tool. Another conservative who does not need fact checkers.

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 16:57:46
Good the president will out of the country in 2008. Good... leave. thanks for coming, do not let the door hit you in your AAHHrear... HEY! Still waiting to hear :clown:s new organ.

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 16:59:00
I am so damn pisssed about this Enda bill. These guys fucked this all up and made the repuklicans happy.

Comment by wickedpam on 12/07/2007 16:59:42
Star & Raine - MommaMala goes for what is cheap and at Costco. I guess raised with a depression era mindset and not having a lot of money growing up makes you think money first. :shrug:



I have some ethopian fair trade beans I got at the York Co Farmers market in the freezer (I probably shouldn't have them there) that I'll grind up this weekend, plus I have some Starbucks, all of these gotten before Mom moved in.

Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 16:59:46
Will W move to Paraguy after he's done as "Prez-eee-dennt"?

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 17:01:57
Quote by wickedpam: Star & Raine - MommaMala goes for what is cheap and at Costco. I guess raised with a depression era mindset and not having a lot of money growing up makes you think money first. :shrug:



I have some ethopian fair trade beans I got at the York Co Farmers market in the freezer (I probably shouldn't have them there) that I'll grind up this weekend, plus I have some Starbucks, all of these gotten before Mom moved in.




Tell Mom to leave the coffee to you! You can get economical coffee that's better than Maxwell House. She'll learn to love it.

OR, maybe you can just get her some Folgers Crystals Instant coffee. :lol:

:puke:

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 17:02:58
Quote by livingonli: Will W move to Paraguy after he's done as "Prez-eee-dennt"?




My guess is he will go wherever he cannot be extradited for WAR CRIMEs!

Comment by BobR on 12/07/2007 17:06:34
Quote by wickedpam: Star & Raine - MommaMala goes for what is cheap and at Costco. I guess raised with a depression era mindset and not having a lot of money growing up makes you think money first. :shrug:



I have some ethopian fair trade beans I got at the York Co Farmers market in the freezer (I probably shouldn't have them there) that I'll grind up this weekend, plus I have some Starbucks, all of these gotten before Mom moved in.


Actually, keeping beans (or ground coffee) in the freezer keeps it from spoiling, so your doing the right thing there...

Comment by wickedpam on 12/07/2007 17:06:48
ID10T :spit:

Comment by wickedpam on 12/07/2007 17:08:23
Star - I might have to do that, this was not pleasant to drink this morning.

Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 17:11:36
I may be the odd duck who doesn't drink coffee. Maybe that's why I always need a nap.

Comment by wickedpam on 12/07/2007 17:13:57
Quote by livingonli: I may be the odd duck who doesn't drink coffee. Maybe that's why I always need a nap.






I just really started drinking it recently, it's 0 points if I don't put creamer in it so I can drink as much as I want.

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 17:17:36
Found it! Info about Chris Matthews Wife... her connection with the Marriot Family ... and possibly WHY Mr. Mathews thought Mitt's Mormon speach was the best spech eveh!
Matthews is married to Kathleen R. Matthews, who anchored News 7 on WJLA-TV, the ABC affiliate in Washington, D.C before accepting a position as an Executive Vice President with J.W. Marriott. .
This is important to me becuase the Marriots are big time mormons. They already institutued blocking websites at thier hotels for questionable reasons, like using the words Gays and Lesbian. :bad: MR MAthews is not being objective, not at all.

Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 17:18:59
But do they still offer porn PPV in the hotel rooms?

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 17:22:06
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by livingonli: I may be the odd duck who doesn't drink coffee. Maybe that's why I always need a nap.
I just really started drinking it recently, it's 0 points if I don't put creamer in it so I can drink as much as I want.
WOW! We usually drink the Rainforest blend from the DeKalb farmers market. it is fair trade, and it is only about 50 cents more than Maxwell house pound for pound. I cannot tell you how much a good blend of coffee makes a dif. And liv, I thought for sure you were a coffee drinker! I loves me coffee. :D

Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 17:23:31
I get my caffeine buzz from soda, although I should really steer away from that.

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 17:23:58
Quote by livingonli: But do they still offer porn PPV in the hotel rooms?
I am not sure, but somehow I would say no, since they can make money for it.

Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 17:26:31
Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli: But do they still offer porn PPV in the hotel rooms?
I am not sure, but somehow I would say no, since they can make money for it.



Hotels make more money from the porn movies than the regular Hollywood films on in-room PPV/VOD.

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 17:29:56
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli: But do they still offer porn PPV in the hotel rooms?
I am not sure, but somehow I would say no, since they can make money for it.
Hotels make more money from the porn movies than the regular Hollywood films on in-room PPV/VOD.
I should not be surprised at this should i? But yes, blog sites like America Blog have been blocked at marriot. AMERICABLOG! MArriot blocks them and supports Romney. you connect the dots about what would happen if this man is elected.

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/07/2007 17:30:01
Quote by starling310:
Quote by wickedpam: Star & Raine - MommaMala goes for what is cheap and at Costco. I guess raised with a depression era mindset and not having a lot of money growing up makes you think money first. :shrug:



I have some ethopian fair trade beans I got at the York Co Farmers market in the freezer (I probably shouldn't have them there) that I'll grind up this weekend, plus I have some Starbucks, all of these gotten before Mom moved in.




Tell Mom to leave the coffee to you! You can get economical coffee that's better than Maxwell House. She'll learn to love it.

OR, maybe you can just get her some Folgers Crystals Instant coffee. :lol:

:puke:






:Wayne's World dream sequence hand gesture: Deeedeee deedeee deeedeee



Jules: damn Jimmy this coffee is some serious gormet shit. We'd been happy with some Taster's Choice.

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 17:33:19
Quote by BobR: Death Star Help Desk:
:rofl:

Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 17:34:57
Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli: But do they still offer porn PPV in the hotel rooms?
I am not sure, but somehow I would say no, since they can make money for it.



Hotels make more money from the porn movies than the regular Hollywood films on in-room PPV/VOD.


I should not be surprised at this should i?



But yes, blog sites like America Blog have been blocked at marriot.



AMERICABLOG!



MArriot blocks them and supports Romney. you connect the dots about what would happen if this man is elected.


Free speech is in trouble if him, Guilaini, Huckabee, or nearly any one of these nuts on the GOP line were to become president. Ron Paul may be odious on many things but he wouldn't piss on free speech like that.



Well, except maybe Fred Thompson, he would be too tired to do anything. {Fred_Gump}

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 17:36:42
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by starling310:
Quote by wickedpam: Star & Raine - MommaMala goes for what is cheap and at Costco. I guess raised with a depression era mindset and not having a lot of money growing up makes you think money first. :shrug: I have some ethopian fair trade beans I got at the York Co Farmers market in the freezer (I probably shouldn't have them there) that I'll grind up this weekend, plus I have some Starbucks, all of these gotten before Mom moved in.
Tell Mom to leave the coffee to you! You can get economical coffee that's better than Maxwell House. She'll learn to love it. OR, maybe you can just get her some Folgers Crystals Instant coffee. :lol: :puke:
:Wayne's World dream sequence hand gesture: Deeedeee deedeee deeedeee Jules: damn Jimmy this coffee is some serious gormet shit. We'd been happy with some Taster's Choice.
:rofl: Mala... we are so gonna get you and momma right with the coffee... I promise! Just do the ENTIRE blog a favour... SAVE the MAxwell house coffee cans! ;)

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/07/2007 17:38:33
Quote by Raine:
Quote by BobR: Death Star Help Desk:



:rofl:






Brafuckino!

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 17:39:52
Liv you are right! we need Fred as the republican candidate! HE would be too tired to shit all over the constitution! Fred for the GOP! YES! YES! YES!


Comment by Mondobubba on 12/07/2007 17:40:05
Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli: But do they still offer porn PPV in the hotel rooms?
I am not sure, but somehow I would say no, since they can make money for it.



Hotels make more money from the porn movies than the regular Hollywood films on in-room PPV/VOD.


I should not be surprised at this should i?



But yes, blog sites like America Blog have been blocked at marriot.



AMERICABLOG!



MArriot blocks them and supports Romney. you connect the dots about what would happen if this man is elected.






We'll all be forced to stay at marriotts???

Comment by wickedpam on 12/07/2007 17:44:07
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by starling310:
Quote by wickedpam: Star & Raine - MommaMala goes for what is cheap and at Costco. I guess raised with a depression era mindset and not having a lot of money growing up makes you think money first. :shrug:



I have some ethopian fair trade beans I got at the York Co Farmers market in the freezer (I probably shouldn't have them there) that I'll grind up this weekend, plus I have some Starbucks, all of these gotten before Mom moved in.




Tell Mom to leave the coffee to you! You can get economical coffee that's better than Maxwell House. She'll learn to love it.

OR, maybe you can just get her some Folgers Crystals Instant coffee. :lol:

:puke:






:Wayne's World dream sequence hand gesture: Deeedeee deedeee deeedeee



Jules: damn Jimmy this coffee is some serious gormet shit. We'd been happy with some Taster's Choice.
:rofl: Mala... we are so gonna get you and momma right with the coffee... I promise!



Just do the ENTIRE blog a favour... SAVE the MAxwell house coffee cans! ;)







I keep trying to, she keeps throwing them out when I put them to the side. Lets just say there are communication issues that we've been working on.

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 17:44:32
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli: But do they still offer porn PPV in the hotel rooms?
I am not sure, but somehow I would say no, since they can make money for it.
Hotels make more money from the porn movies than the regular Hollywood films on in-room PPV/VOD.
I should not be surprised at this should i? But yes, blog sites like America Blog have been blocked at marriot. AMERICABLOG! MArriot blocks them and supports Romney. you connect the dots about what would happen if this man is elected.
We'll all be forced to stay at marriotts???
Did I get too tinfoily? :P

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/07/2007 17:44:36
Mondo misquoted:



Jules, Vincent and Jimmie are drinking coffee in Jimmie's kitchen]

Jules: Mmmm! Goddamn, Jimmie! This is some serious gourmet shit! Usually, me and Vince would be happy with some freeze-dried Taster's Choice right, but he springs this serious GOURMET shit on us! What flavor is this?

Jimmie: Knock it off, Julie.

Jules: [pause] What?

Jimmie: I don't need you to tell me how fucking good my coffee is, okay? I'm the one who buys it. I know how good it is. When Bonnie goes shopping she buys SHIT. I buy the gourmet expensive stuff because when I drink it I want to taste it.



Mondo regrets the error!









Comment by Mondobubba on 12/07/2007 17:45:42
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli: But do they still offer porn PPV in the hotel rooms?
I am not sure, but somehow I would say no, since they can make money for it.



Hotels make more money from the porn movies than the regular Hollywood films on in-room PPV/VOD.


I should not be surprised at this should i?



But yes, blog sites like America Blog have been blocked at marriot.



AMERICABLOG!



MArriot blocks them and supports Romney. you connect the dots about what would happen if this man is elected.






We'll all be forced to stay at marriotts???






Did I get too tinfoily?



:P






Just a scosch

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 17:46:06
I think I want Bernie Sanders as President.

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 17:52:40
Still... I may be foily, but I believe that the Marriots and Romney should be something to look into... I am currently looking into campaign contributions. I apologize for my over foily-ness. It's not like I accused np... oh never mind...

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 17:54:33
57 fillibusters. That is what has happened since the dems came into power after the Dems took power. Disgusting.

Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 17:58:16
Quote by Raine: I think I want Bernie Sanders as President.


I like the way you think there.

Comment by wickedpam on 12/07/2007 18:04:18
Quote by Raine: 57 fillibusters. That is what has happened since the dems came into power after the Dems took power. Disgusting.




And yet when the Dems wanted to fillibuster it was all "up or down vote" crap.



Comment by TriSec on 12/07/2007 18:07:08
Did someone say coffee?



We've been drinking Gevalia for a while. We just got our annual shipment of the "Royal Kaffe" in the fancy purple boxes. Our regular shipment these days is Hazelnut and Columbian whole-bean.



Before that, we used to buy Green Mountain whole bean coffee at Costco, so I'd recommend that.



Starbucks?

Boiled mud. Sorry. I'd go with "Seattle's Best". Vastly superior in most respects.



Your Loyal TriSec has always used a pinch of salt in the coffee...Julia Child said to, so that's good enough for me. You could also try the camp trick of dropping an egg into the bottom of the percolator; the eggshell does the same thing, it's a very mild and creamy coffee. But it sucks if the egg cracks.



Funny thing though, we've always used Maxwell House as our 'store blend'. I don't have any problems with it. I'd avoid "Chock full of Lies", though. How that is New York's favorite coffee is beyond me...









Comment by BobR on 12/07/2007 18:09:54
My absolute favorite coffee is the Kenya AA from Caribou Coffee. In a french press it's nutty and creamy and oh so smooth...







and if this all sounds liberal elitist, then so what! :modbat:

Comment by TriSec on 12/07/2007 18:45:11
Ya know, I understand this whole "respect for the individual" concept of referring to former presidents by the title of "Mr. President", but don't you think it's a little ridiculous for former Mayors, Senators, and Governors?



Let's call the sitting office holders by their rightful title, and the civilians by their civilian title and patronym, hmm?



"Mr. Romney". "Mr. Giuliani". "Mr. Edwards".





Comment by BobR on 12/07/2007 19:38:43
Listening to music from local band Five Star Iris...



They're playing in town tonight and I'm too broke to go see them... :(

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 19:49:20
Quote by BobR: Listening to music from local band Five Star Iris...



They're playing in town tonight and I'm too broke to go see them... :(




:clap:



Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 19:50:59
I hear that about the financial situation. My good friend is playing in a pit band at one of my theaters and I can't even afford that.

:(



Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 19:58:53
It shows how bad it is in the economy when you can't even go out. It becomes cheaper just to stay home and watch TV.

Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 20:09:10
IT'S FRIDAY YA BASTIDS!

























It's been too long since the last time I bounced.

Comment by BobR on 12/07/2007 20:17:38
oops - missed the bounce...





Comment by BobR on 12/07/2007 20:18:49
Quote by livingonli: It shows how bad it is in the economy when you can't even go out. It becomes cheaper just to stay home and watch TV.


well - it's always been cheaper to stay home and watch TV, but it used to be affordable to go out once or twice a week. Now it's barely every other weekend...

Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 20:23:46
Quote by BobR:
Quote by livingonli: It shows how bad it is in the economy when you can't even go out. It becomes cheaper just to stay home and watch TV.


well - it's always been cheaper to stay home and watch TV, but it used to be affordable to go out once or twice a week. Now it's barely every other weekend...


Since I'm at work 5 nights a week, it has a different impact on me. If I didn't go out to eat on my dinner break, I could really save money.

Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2007 21:11:44
Time for me to dredge off to the salt mine.

Comment by TriSec on 12/07/2007 21:13:59
*grunt*



Well, another missed Friday.



Off to the Cub Scouts...we've got the United States Marines coming for their annual 'Toys for Tots' collection tonight.



I will behave myself; no quarrel with the individual soldiers here, just the command structure.

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 21:38:02
:cry: Randi playing JFK's speech about religion. oh if only we had JFK today.

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 21:39:50
Salute to the marines from Raine for you tri tonite.

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 21:46:10
interesting discussion on randi. I understand both points,

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 21:51:46
Agreed, randi... Mitt is a religious intolerant :peace:My country first my constitution with my country. Religion is simply not relevant in the affairs of who we elect to protect and serve the constitution. IT is a job man. Being president is a job. do you not do your duties at your job becuase of your religion? no... most of us do not.

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 21:55:45
HOw is it that Madonna can be controversial and Huck and Mitt are not? MAdonna has ALWAYS been a better cristian than most of us--- and she is no longer christian!. discuss.

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 22:01:40
IT'S SNOWING!!!! :banana:

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 22:02:29
I will miss Shelley now.









Ok. Done.

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 22:19:28
ok I love brother dave... he is great... but the *hello* is killing me. And i am sorry that he lost his dad this week.

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 22:22:03
Quote by starling310: IT'S SNOWING!!!! :banana:
woohoo!

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 22:24:54
The Music on the Randi has rocked the past few weeks.

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 22:29:33
OK, Randi, have some patience with your callers. DO not mock them.we are all on the same team here,ya know? Some of us are not as good as you and that is why you have a radio show... BUT... your listeners are the reason why you still have a show.

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 22:38:20
Quote by Raine: OK, Randi, have some patience with your callers. DO not mock them.we are all on the same team here,ya know? Some of us are not as good as you and that is why you have a radio show... BUT... your listeners are the reason why you still have a show.




Hence, the reason I am no longer a faithful Randi fan. Once in a while now. . .

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 22:41:11
why is randi having a bad week? wassamatta? you got money to go out dontcha randi? that would put me in a better mood.

my friend is going for sushi and i can't afford to join. DAMMIT!

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 22:43:08
Randi, I swear sometime I think it is good I do not know her personally She can be so condescending to her callers, and that is just not nice to me. I love what she says, but I do not like how she treats some of her callers.

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 22:51:01
Quote by starling310: why is randi having a bad week? wassamatta? you got money to go out dontcha randi? that would put me in a better mood. my friend is going for sushi and i can't afford to join. DAMMIT!
This is where She sometimes loses me. I know she is doign alright... sh has a NYC apt an a place in Florida. adn I do not begrudge her that.but sistah, don't whine to me about troubles. defend me from the troubles, don't whine about yours. my note to sistah: I am glad you are doing better than I am, but we have a small group of people who have scrapped a few bucks together to keep a small community going... and Randi, my dear.... you don't have to ever do that.

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 22:53:52
Quote by starling310: I will miss Shelley now. Ok. Done.
:hug:

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 22:55:09
Quote by Raine:
Quote by starling310: why is randi having a bad week? wassamatta? you got money to go out dontcha randi? that would put me in a better mood.

my friend is going for sushi and i can't afford to join. DAMMIT!


This is where She sometimes loses me. I know she is doign alright... sh has a NYC apt an a place in Florida. adn I do not begrudge her that.but sistah, don't whine to me about troubles. defend me from the troubles, don't whine about yours. my note to sistah: I am glad you are doing better than I am, but we have a small group of people who have scrapped a few bucks together to keep a small community going... and Randi, my dear.... you don't have to ever do that.













Did we get enough for the 12/12 deadline?





Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 22:55:59
Quote by Raine:
Quote by starling310: I will miss Shelley now.









Ok. Done.


:hug:






Momentary side effect of the snow.



Comment by BobR on 12/07/2007 22:57:33
btw - yesterday I got an email for a survey created by Sam Sedar asking questions about what shows I listened to, what sites I read, blogs, etc...



Naturally, I pimped FourFreedomsBlog....

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 22:58:17
Naturally.



Comment by BobR on 12/07/2007 22:59:14
Quote by starling310:



Did we get enough for the 12/12 deadline?





It's going to be very, very close. I'm still holding out hope we'll get some more donations from other members in time...

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 22:59:35
Why is it that half a bag of chips is always crumbs? If I wanted Potato crumbles I would request that they be manufactured. I bought potato CHIPS, expecting CHIPS!

I may as well pour these in a bowl, with milk and call it cereal.





Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 23:00:42
Quote by BobR:
Quote by starling310:



Did we get enough for the 12/12 deadline?





It's going to be very, very close. I'm still holding out hope we'll get some more donations from other members in time...




Sorry I couldn't give more. I get a refund for my purchased time off on the 15th. *sigh* Alas, that will be too late.



Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 23:01:24
Yay Rachel coming up! I don't get to hear her very often. But, she's growing on me. . . like fungus.



Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 23:09:44
Quote by starling310: Yay Rachel coming up! I don't get to hear her very often. But, she's growing on me. . . like fungus.
I the Dr. / She and and all of Unfilterd are a big reason for the fact that bob and I are together today. seriously. Go to AAP and search for the unfiltered Tshirt tour. Through that thread, bob and I met. And... I promise one day, you will here the entire story.

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 23:11:01
Quote by Raine:
Quote by starling310: Yay Rachel coming up! I don't get to hear her very often. But, she's growing on me. . . like fungus.

I the Dr. / She and and all of Unfilterd are a big reason for the fact that bob and I are together today. seriously. Go to AAP and search for the unfiltered Tshirt tour. Through that thread, bob and I met.



And... I promise one day, you will here the entire story.





:hug:

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 23:22:10
Ahhhh....steaming hot Lady Grey. That's a good cuppa.



Speaking of being broke, I found a pair of Hobo Gloves at Cumberland Farms ( of all places ) for $4.99 and they are sweet. For those not in the know, Hobo gloves are mittens with a flap, which opens to reveal fingerless gloves. All I need is a flannel coat, a 40 oz. in a brown paper bag and a barrel fire and I'll be set. Set for what? I don't know. But, SET, none the less.



Comment by Raine on 12/07/2007 23:23:30
Quote by BobR: btw - yesterday I got an email for a survey created by Sam Sedar asking questions about what shows I listened to, what sites I read, blogs, etc... Naturally, I pimped FourFreedomsBlog....
big hoowah! ... side note... Rach is gonna be on Keith tonite! You know, I have been thinking... I think that after 12 noon, people should just start blogs en masse. What do you all think? if you see a story, start a blog... I would like to think since we all have decided that this blog belong to all of us, all of us should be able to start a blog post. I am thinking the fair ground rule is anything after momma off the air. And as always, if you want to have an opening Blog, please contact the admins... Liv, I know you have been mulling a thing around for a while, just tell us when you are ready. You guys are the ones who are making sure this blog keeps the lights on,. I truly want you all to be a part of making it grow. What say you all?

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 23:27:53
I say that's a fine idea.

But, I am confused...isn't that what the MB is for?

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 23:29:27
My cat, Sophie is mesmerized by the dancing bananas! :rofl:

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 23:30:43
Quote by Raine:]

big hoowah! ...




Who you callin' a big hoowah? :modbat:

Comment by starling310 on 12/07/2007 23:59:52
Raine, what ever happened with your phone? Nuttin?



Comment by livingonli on 12/08/2007 00:13:04
It's very salty here tonight.



Listening to Randi on the way in, I heard her call the Mormon "magic underpants' and her say "lying sack of crap". Sounds like someone is snarfing Stephisms.



Tonight, we are in heavy load in MSG/FSNY country.

Knicks-Sixers on MSG.

Rangers-Thrashers on MSG2.

Islandres-Panthers on FSN New York

And a Devils game on FSN New York 2.



It looks like heavy lurk mode and I won't be getting out until 2 AM probably tonight.

Comment by BobR on 12/08/2007 00:14:02
Time to head on down the highway...

Comment by Raine on 12/08/2007 00:16:01
I love the Hobo Gloves, I know I should not, but ?I love them ...Also I must add that I know the Cumberland farms! They are not down here. but I know the Cumberland farms! one of my fave pairt of sunglasses came from that chain!

Comment by Raine on 12/08/2007 00:23:36
Quote by livingonli: It's very salty here tonight. Listening to Randi on the way in, I heard her call the Mormon "magic underpants' and her say "lying sack of crap". Sounds like someone is snarfing Stephisms. Tonight, we are in heavy load in MSG/FSNY country. Knicks-Sixers on MSG. Rangers-Thrashers on MSG2. Islandres-Panthers on FSN New York And a Devils game on FSN New York 2. It looks like heavy lurk mode and I won't be getting out until 2 AM probably tonight.
I thought the same liv, lying sack of crap is now being used by Randi...and it is a direct snarf. imitation is the highest form of flattery they say right? hang in ther ewith the salt mines. and go Rangers! (BobR is currently on the road home so this is a secret between ... oh hell I am out and proud! GO RANGERS

Comment by Raine on 12/08/2007 00:27:01
Quote by starling310:
Quote by Raine:] big hoowah! ...
Who you callin' a big hoowah? :modbat:
yo dude. prove me wrong... ...(off to the penalty box I go! )

Comment by Raine on 12/08/2007 00:29:48
Quote by Raine:
Quote by starling310:
Quote by Raine:] big hoowah! ...
Who you callin' a big hoowah? :modbat:
yo dude. prove me wrong... ...(off to the penalty box I go! )
(from behind penalty box)

Comment by starling310 on 12/08/2007 00:44:14
Quote by Raine: I love the Hobo Gloves, I know I should not, but ?I love them ...Also I must add that I know the Cumberland farms!



They are not down here. but I know the Cumberland farms! one of my fave pairt of sunglasses came from that chain!




Hell yeah man. "S'Cumbys!"

Comment by livingonli on 12/08/2007 00:48:08
I hope it doesn't get ugly in that penalty box.

Comment by starling310 on 12/08/2007 00:51:36
Bring it Sister Raine! Bring it! Takes one to know one!

Comment by starling310 on 12/08/2007 00:59:20
Obama is leading Iowa. And, South Carolina.



Comment by Raine on 12/08/2007 01:10:36
Tonites menu: grilled marinated steak( in the Northeast we call it BBQ'ing... another discussion altogether...) roasted corn, garlic Rosemary Mashed potatoes and whatever Veggie bobR picks on his way home. We will be having homeade Pilsner with the dinner menu, and perchance some jameson later, as we watch KO, and then *Santa Claus is coming to town, along with the peanuts Chrsitmas and other holiday fare.) I would like to officially invite you all for a dinner whenever you want to come to the ATL.

Comment by starling310 on 12/08/2007 01:14:03
Whenever a big news story breaks, and I watch Olberman I think of Ralphie ( A Christmas Story ) talking about the Radio Narrator. I wish I could think of the exact line, but it's something like "Olberman was in good voice tonight. . . "

Comment by Raine on 12/08/2007 01:14:13
Quote by starling310: Bring it Sister Raine! Bring it! Takes one to know one!
:lol: Indeed!

Comment by Raine on 12/08/2007 01:19:30
Quote by starling310: Whenever a big news story breaks, and I watch Olberman I think of Ralphie ( A Christmas Story ) talking about the Radio Narrator. I wish I could think of the exact line, but it's something like "Olberman was in good voice tonight. . . "
OOH! I wish I watched that movie more oft, becuase I know of what you speak./
I still think that Karl Rove is what would have happened to Ralphie if he didn't get the Red Rider (did I get the name right? .)


Comment by starling310 on 12/08/2007 01:23:24
You did get it right.

HA! I never thought of that. Maybe that is what happened to Rove. He wanted a Red Rider BB Gun and he got a Football.



Poor little Karl.



Comment by starling310 on 12/08/2007 01:24:56
Ooh...Dr. Maddow. Dark Green and Grey? She needs to wear colors!



Comment by MMB on 12/08/2007 02:41:53
Hi Everyone, I was just wondering Raine or BobR if the donations are still needed? I really hope that nobody minds me being here. I really could use a friendly place to just be accepted for just being myself. Let me know if we still need the donations ok. Later

Comment by livingonli on 12/08/2007 02:54:04
The Knick game tonight finished in 2 hours and 10 minutes. They lost to Philly.



Ranger game is still going though. (Is the ATL contingent watching?)

Comment by TriSec on 12/08/2007 03:13:30
:ph34r:



Another succesful evening at the ol' Cub Pack. We kicked ass; the Marines are loving us. We pulled in about twice as many donations as last year.





Comment by starling310 on 12/08/2007 03:47:49
Quote by MMB: Hi Everyone, I was just wondering Raine or BobR if the donations are still needed? I really hope that nobody minds me being here. I really could use a friendly place to just be accepted for just being myself. Let me know if we still need the donations ok. Later






Comment by MMB on 12/08/2007 05:16:09
THANKYOU!!! STARLING310 I greatly appreciate it!!