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News on the news
Author: Raine
Date: 09/28/2009 12:29:41
Is this the future of the news? CBS has decided to partner with Global Post -- a web site for foreign news. PBS has done the same with Tehran Bureau -- a site I first stumbled across during the Iranian protests that began earlier this year, the New York Times is reporting this morning.
I am quite mixed about this. While I tend to trust PBS more than CBS to do the right thing with the information gleaned from these webites, I wonder what they will do to the actual stories? GlobalPost seems like it has a good business model. We need good foreign reporting - but what we need even more is more honesty from our own media.
I say this because I came across an interesting story this morning. CBS cancelled a Michael Moore appearance it seems for his slamming Disney ABC for it's use of "permalancers". As you know, Mr. Moore is out and about promoting his new movie: Capitalism: A Love Story. Moore tweeted: Mediaite followed up on the truthiness of this tweet. Suddenly after Moore says this on air -- CBS is saying he was never booked. I find it all suspicious myself. I hope that CBS isn't just hiring more "permalancers" at GlobalPost.
It goes down to what the actual networks decide to show us and what they don't - and that is a scary thing in America. So I congratulate CBS for expanding it's foreign reporting by adding new sources of information; I just hope they wake up and do the same here on the homeland. In the end, if you truly want quality you have to pay for it, and that includes American workers. That is what capitalism is about -- getting a return on your investment, not keeping people in the dark.
& 
Raine
I am quite mixed about this. While I tend to trust PBS more than CBS to do the right thing with the information gleaned from these webites, I wonder what they will do to the actual stories? GlobalPost seems like it has a good business model. We need good foreign reporting - but what we need even more is more honesty from our own media.
I say this because I came across an interesting story this morning. CBS cancelled a Michael Moore appearance it seems for his slamming Disney ABC for it's use of "permalancers". As you know, Mr. Moore is out and about promoting his new movie: Capitalism: A Love Story. Moore tweeted:
Backlash Begins: CBS has cancelled me on its Mon. morning show. After I criticized ABC/Disney on GMA, they didn't want me to do same to CBS.
“People backstage here — they don’t get to be real employees here because they don’t get the benefits, so they’re freelancers…and I said ‘Guy, I was here two years ago, you were a freelancer, what are you doing here?’ — right backstage here at ABC — he said, ‘We call ourselves permalancers now.’ They don’t get to share in just the basic benefits that an employee used to have who worked here. What’s wrong with that? What is wrong with just giving people basic things for their hard work?”
It goes down to what the actual networks decide to show us and what they don't - and that is a scary thing in America. So I congratulate CBS for expanding it's foreign reporting by adding new sources of information; I just hope they wake up and do the same here on the homeland. In the end, if you truly want quality you have to pay for it, and that includes American workers. That is what capitalism is about -- getting a return on your investment, not keeping people in the dark.
& Raine
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Comment by 
wickedpam on 09/28/2009 12:33:35
wickedpam on 09/28/2009 12:33:35
Morning 
Comment by 
BobR on 09/28/2009 12:40:27
BobR on 09/28/2009 12:40:27
I think this points out something very important that often doesn't get mentioned - which stories a media outlet chooses to report (or ignore) says as much about them as the "slant" they put on the stories they DO report.
The most important thing ANY news outfit has is its reputation. The more they outsource their news reporting, the greater the chance they have of losing that. Verifying sources, etc., is one of the few things that "valid" news companies have over blogs, etc. Without that, they are irrelevant.
The most important thing ANY news outfit has is its reputation. The more they outsource their news reporting, the greater the chance they have of losing that. Verifying sources, etc., is one of the few things that "valid" news companies have over blogs, etc. Without that, they are irrelevant.
Comment by 
Scoopster on 09/28/2009 13:01:12
Scoopster on 09/28/2009 13:01:12
Morning all! 
Ooof coffee migraine! 
Ooof coffee migraine!
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 09/28/2009 13:03:58
velveeta jones on 09/28/2009 13:03:58
Great post Raine. I thought Michael Moore was so gutsy and right on for calling out ABC. I have worked in the field of entertainment (and lets face it, that's what GMA is) and "freelancers" that work all the time is so very common. The Union needs to suck these "lancers" up - eventually the Corps "freelance" quality pool dries up and they would be forced to hire Union workers. But its a hard gamble for the poor freelancer.
Comment by 
Raine on 09/28/2009 13:39:51
you still have a headache scoop?
It has been almost a week -- I am starting to get a little worried about you.
Raine on 09/28/2009 13:39:51
Quote by Scoopster:
Morning all!
It has been almost a week -- I am starting to get a little worried about you.
Comment by Scoopster on 09/28/2009 13:50:27
Oh nono that headache finally ended on like Friday morning. This is my regular coffee withdrawl migraine that I get every Sunday or Monday..
Scoopster on 09/28/2009 13:50:27
Quote by Raine:you still have a headache scoop?Quote by Scoopster:
Morning all!
It has been almost a week -- I am starting to get a little worried about you.
Oh nono that headache finally ended on like Friday morning. This is my regular coffee withdrawl migraine that I get every Sunday or Monday..
Comment by velveeta jones on 09/28/2009 14:18:41
velveeta jones on 09/28/2009 14:18:41
My, my. Miss Miller has a birthday tomorrow. It snuck up on me. Should we at 4F send her a gift? Cake? Card? Male Whore? Contribution to Elayne Boosler's Tails of Joy in her name?
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 09/28/2009 14:22:06
trojanrabbit on 09/28/2009 14:22:06
morning all
Comment by Scoopster on 09/28/2009 14:29:42
Ridiculous.. I'm glad the Feds have been notified about it and all but why is the poll even still up?!
Scoopster on 09/28/2009 14:29:42
Quote by Raine:
Insane.... This poll on Facebook has YET to be pulled.
Ridiculous.. I'm glad the Feds have been notified about it and all but why is the poll even still up?!
Comment by Raine on 09/28/2009 14:35:10
I am trying to figure it out myself.
Raine on 09/28/2009 14:35:10
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Raine:
Insane.... This poll on Facebook has YET to be pulled.
Ridiculous.. I'm glad the Feds have been notified about it and all but why is the poll even still up?!
Comment by Scoopster on 09/28/2009 14:36:30
Only thing I can think of is the Polls app itself is hosted outside of Facebook's domain. But they should still have control over what is allowed to be displayed on their website and branded with their trademarks.
Scoopster on 09/28/2009 14:36:30
Quote by Raine:I am trying to figure it out myself.Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Raine:
Insane.... This poll on Facebook has YET to be pulled.
Ridiculous.. I'm glad the Feds have been notified about it and all but why is the poll even still up?!
Only thing I can think of is the Polls app itself is hosted outside of Facebook's domain. But they should still have control over what is allowed to be displayed on their website and branded with their trademarks.
Comment by Raine on 09/28/2009 14:36:40
Raine on 09/28/2009 14:36:40
Well Kentucky caller didn't get far into making his point, did he? dropping the S bomb is bad...
Comment by Raine on 09/28/2009 14:37:23
The app is probably - but it is still in violation of the TOS.
Disgusting.
Raine on 09/28/2009 14:37:23
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Raine:I am trying to figure it out myself.Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Raine:
Insane.... This poll on Facebook has YET to be pulled.
Ridiculous.. I'm glad the Feds have been notified about it and all but why is the poll even still up?!
Only thing I can think of is the Polls app itself is hosted outside of Facebook's domain.
Disgusting.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/28/2009 14:40:55
dang it! I want to see the comments but I don't want to vote in it - did report it as offensive though
wickedpam on 09/28/2009 14:40:55
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Raine:
Insane.... This poll on Facebook has YET to be pulled.
Ridiculous.. I'm glad the Feds have been notified about it and all but why is the poll even still up?!
dang it! I want to see the comments but I don't want to vote in it - did report it as offensive though
Comment by Raine on 09/28/2009 14:53:39
Raine on 09/28/2009 14:53:39
was meant to be here when I said "Nice"
Comment by 
Random on 09/28/2009 14:57:04
Random on 09/28/2009 14:57:04
Random ill...
Random annoy you people because random is stuck at home.
Random annoy you people because random is stuck at home.
Comment by Random on 09/28/2009 14:57:05
Random on 09/28/2009 14:57:05
Random ill...
Random annoy you people because random is stuck at home.
Edit: Random so ill he double post.
Random annoy you people because random is stuck at home.
Edit: Random so ill he double post.
Comment by Scoopster on 09/28/2009 15:07:09
~~~~~~~ Healin' Vibes for Random! ~~~~~~~
Scoopster on 09/28/2009 15:07:09
Quote by Random:
Random ill...
Random annoy you people because random is stuck at home.
~~~~~~~ Healin' Vibes for Random! ~~~~~~~
Comment by wickedpam on 09/28/2009 15:09:15
awww - ~~~~~~ healy vibies ~~~~~~
We need a chicken soup emoticon for the winter
wickedpam on 09/28/2009 15:09:15
Quote by Random:
Random ill...
Random annoy you people because random is stuck at home.
Edit: Random so ill he double post.
awww - ~~~~~~ healy vibies
~~~~~~We need a chicken soup emoticon for the winter
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/28/2009 15:11:28
trojanrabbit on 09/28/2009 15:11:28
Is double posting like double vision?
More healing vibes for Random...
More healing vibes for Random...
Comment by Raine on 09/28/2009 15:12:00
Raine on 09/28/2009 15:12:00
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Feel better Random! Here is a cup of tea:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Feel better Random! Here is a cup of tea:
Comment by Random on 09/28/2009 15:14:04
Random on 09/28/2009 15:14:04
Random had chicken soup for dinner last night, and breakfast. Which has helped. now if only the sinus headache would ebb for a while I'd be good.
Now...now random just wrapped up drugged up and ultimately messed up (though that's modus Operand i for Random)
Thanks for all the love.
Now...now random just wrapped up drugged up and ultimately messed up (though that's modus Operand i for Random)
Thanks for all the love.
Comment by Random on 09/28/2009 15:22:22
Random on 09/28/2009 15:22:22
Change of subject:
Random didn't realize Heroes came back last week.
He just saw the opener...It was alright.
Random didn't realize Heroes came back last week.
He just saw the opener...It was alright.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/28/2009 15:27:37
It grew on me over time - love the Carnies, getting burned out on Sylar
wickedpam on 09/28/2009 15:27:37
Quote by Random:
Change of subject:
Random didn't realize Heroes came back last week.
He just saw the opener...It was alright.
It grew on me over time - love the Carnies, getting burned out on Sylar
Comment by wickedpam on 09/28/2009 15:29:16
I just had an image of a chicken on crutchs and in a wheel chair flash through my brain
wickedpam on 09/28/2009 15:29:16
I just had an image of a chicken on crutchs and in a wheel chair flash through my brain
Comment by Random on 09/28/2009 15:31:42
certainly on Nathan/Sylar
But Sylar screwing with Matts mind is fun.
the Carnies are great.
I'm glad Tracy isn't evil...just pissed off. who wants odds on her and Noah getting together?
And Speedy McKnifeKnife looks kick ass.
I'm getting burnt out on Claire....
I'm sure I have more thoughts...so...yeah that'll show up sooner or later.
Random on 09/28/2009 15:31:42
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:
Change of subject:
Random didn't realize Heroes came back last week.
He just saw the opener...It was alright.
It grew on me over time - love the Carnies, getting burned out on Sylar
certainly on Nathan/Sylar
But Sylar screwing with Matts mind is fun.
the Carnies are great.
I'm glad Tracy isn't evil...just pissed off. who wants odds on her and Noah getting together?
And Speedy McKnifeKnife looks kick ass.
I'm getting burnt out on Claire....
I'm sure I have more thoughts...so...yeah that'll show up sooner or later.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/28/2009 15:37:30
lol - I'm sure I'll have something to complain about eventually too - on and claire's been annoying since S1
wickedpam on 09/28/2009 15:37:30
Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:
Change of subject:
Random didn't realize Heroes came back last week.
He just saw the opener...It was alright.
It grew on me over time - love the Carnies, getting burned out on Sylar
certainly on Nathan/Sylar
But Sylar screwing with Matts mind is fun.
the Carnies are great.
I'm glad Tracy isn't evil...just pissed off. who wants odds on her and Noah getting together?
And Speedy McKnifeKnife looks kick ass.
I'm getting burnt out on Claire....
I'm sure I have more thoughts...so...yeah that'll show up sooner or later.
lol - I'm sure I'll have something to complain about eventually too - on and claire's been annoying since S1
Comment by Scoopster on 09/28/2009 15:38:23
Scoopster on 09/28/2009 15:38:23
Comment by Random on 09/28/2009 15:40:00
Well yeah, I knew the moment she fell from the window that someone would see.
Besides that, Ando's a little creepy kissing Kimiko...
Random on 09/28/2009 15:40:00
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:
Change of subject:
Random didn't realize Heroes came back last week.
He just saw the opener...It was alright.
It grew on me over time - love the Carnies, getting burned out on Sylar
certainly on Nathan/Sylar
But Sylar screwing with Matts mind is fun.
the Carnies are great.
I'm glad Tracy isn't evil...just pissed off. who wants odds on her and Noah getting together?
And Speedy McKnifeKnife looks kick ass.
I'm getting burnt out on Claire....
I'm sure I have more thoughts...so...yeah that'll show up sooner or later.
lol - I'm sure I'll have something to complain about eventually too - on and claire's been annoying since S1
Well yeah, I knew the moment she fell from the window that someone would see.
Besides that, Ando's a little creepy kissing Kimiko...
Comment by wickedpam on 09/28/2009 15:45:02
wickedpam on 09/28/2009 15:45:02
Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:
Change of subject:
Random didn't realize Heroes came back last week.
He just saw the opener...It was alright.
It grew on me over time - love the Carnies, getting burned out on Sylar
certainly on Nathan/Sylar
But Sylar screwing with Matts mind is fun.
the Carnies are great.
I'm glad Tracy isn't evil...just pissed off. who wants odds on her and Noah getting together?
And Speedy McKnifeKnife looks kick ass.
I'm getting burnt out on Claire....
I'm sure I have more thoughts...so...yeah that'll show up sooner or later.
lol - I'm sure I'll have something to complain about eventually too - on and claire's been annoying since S1
Well yeah, I knew the moment she fell from the window that someone would see.
Besides that, Ando's a little creepy kissing Kimiko...
Comment by Random on 09/28/2009 15:46:10
It sucked to watch ep 1 and 2 back to back cause the slushy bit was obvious when he first jumped back.
Random on 09/28/2009 15:46:10
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:
Well yeah, I knew the moment she fell from the window that someone would see.
Besides that, Ando's a little creepy kissing Kimiko...
It sucked to watch ep 1 and 2 back to back cause the slushy bit was obvious when he first jumped back.
Comment by Scoopster on 09/28/2009 15:48:14
Apparently it's not parody.. wow these people are fucking insane!
Scoopster on 09/28/2009 15:48:14
Quote by Scoopster:
Pretty sure this is some kind of parody, but still disturbing... Linked for big-ass screenshot
Apparently it's not parody.. wow these people are fucking insane!
Comment by Random on 09/28/2009 15:51:20
...Random didn't think it was possible to feel more sick...
excuse Random..
Random on 09/28/2009 15:51:20
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Scoopster:
Pretty sure this is some kind of parody, but still disturbing... Linked for big-ass screenshot
Apparently it's not parody.. wow these people are fucking insane!
...Random didn't think it was possible to feel more sick...
excuse Random..
Comment by wickedpam on 09/28/2009 15:54:17
Think I just threw up a little in my mouth....
wickedpam on 09/28/2009 15:54:17
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Scoopster:
Pretty sure this is some kind of parody, but still disturbing... Linked for big-ass screenshot
Apparently it's not parody.. wow these people are fucking insane!
Think I just threw up a little in my mouth....
Comment by wickedpam on 09/28/2009 15:54:59
yeah a couple of things came marching up main street but if it gets the show back on track I'll take it
wickedpam on 09/28/2009 15:54:59
Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:
Well yeah, I knew the moment she fell from the window that someone would see.
Besides that, Ando's a little creepy kissing Kimiko...
It sucked to watch ep 1 and 2 back to back cause the slushy bit was obvious when he first jumped back.
yeah a couple of things came marching up main street but if it gets the show back on track I'll take it
Comment by Raine on 09/28/2009 15:58:01
Landover Baptist is a parody site... What I am not sure of is who is serious and who is satirical
This is a joke. A really bad one.
Raine on 09/28/2009 15:58:01
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Scoopster:
Pretty sure this is some kind of parody, but still disturbing... Linked for big-ass screenshot
Apparently it's not parody.. wow these people are fucking insane!
This is a joke. A really bad one.
Comment by Random on 09/28/2009 16:01:18
I agree. Samuel is a decent villain since he really isn't a villain like our others, I'm not even sure he's a villain per se.
and does this mean Hiro has a brain tumor? Would explain the nose bleeds and the messed up powers. and of course the immanent death bit.
I am glad Danko got his up comings.
Random on 09/28/2009 16:01:18
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:
Well yeah, I knew the moment she fell from the window that someone would see.
Besides that, Ando's a little creepy kissing Kimiko...
It sucked to watch ep 1 and 2 back to back cause the slushy bit was obvious when he first jumped back.
yeah a couple of things came marching up main street but if it gets the show back on track I'll take it
I agree. Samuel is a decent villain since he really isn't a villain like our others, I'm not even sure he's a villain per se.
and does this mean Hiro has a brain tumor? Would explain the nose bleeds and the messed up powers. and of course the immanent death bit.
I am glad Danko got his up comings.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/28/2009 16:04:35
Jokes are supposed to be funny - even gross out jokes - that is not funny
wickedpam on 09/28/2009 16:04:35
Quote by Raine:Landover Baptist is a parody site... What I am not sure of is who is serious and who is satiricalQuote by Scoopster:Quote by Scoopster:
Pretty sure this is some kind of parody, but still disturbing... Linked for big-ass screenshot
Apparently it's not parody.. wow these people are fucking insane!
This is a joke. A really bad one.
Jokes are supposed to be funny - even gross out jokes - that is not funny
Comment by Random on 09/28/2009 16:05:43
so the OP is in on the joke....that at least makes me feel a bit better by his comments.
It looks like it's trying to push the boundries of how far these nutters will go. where is that line to them.
Random on 09/28/2009 16:05:43
Quote by Raine:Landover Baptist is a parody site... What I am not sure of is who is serious and who is satiricalQuote by Scoopster:Quote by Scoopster:
Pretty sure this is some kind of parody, but still disturbing... Linked for big-ass screenshot
Apparently it's not parody.. wow these people are fucking insane!
This is a joke. A really bad one.
so the OP is in on the joke....that at least makes me feel a bit better by his comments.
It looks like it's trying to push the boundries of how far these nutters will go. where is that line to them.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/28/2009 16:06:26
Too bad they couldn't find another story line for Danko though - he was a good bad guy.
Love Samuel - I dig a guy in eyeliner
Yeah I think Hiro's doing a bucket list kinda thing - he has something neurological
wickedpam on 09/28/2009 16:06:26
Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:
Well yeah, I knew the moment she fell from the window that someone would see.
Besides that, Ando's a little creepy kissing Kimiko...
It sucked to watch ep 1 and 2 back to back cause the slushy bit was obvious when he first jumped back.
yeah a couple of things came marching up main street but if it gets the show back on track I'll take it
I agree. Samuel is a decent villain since he really isn't a villain like our others, I'm not even sure he's a villain per se.
and does this mean Hiro has a brain tumor? Would explain the nose bleeds and the messed up powers. and of course the immanent death bit.
I am glad Danko got his up comings.
Too bad they couldn't find another story line for Danko though - he was a good bad guy.
Love Samuel - I dig a guy in eyeliner
Yeah I think Hiro's doing a bucket list kinda thing - he has something neurological
Comment by Random on 09/28/2009 16:11:38
Danko was fun, but I think they've learned their lesson of Sylar. Best to cut off the badguy don't keep him around. Not that they can get rid of Sylar now. Well certainly that Pasdar isn't going to be around for another season, unless Hiro does something weird.
Also, not that surprised the girl killed herself.
Random on 09/28/2009 16:11:38
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:
I agree. Samuel is a decent villain since he really isn't a villain like our others, I'm not even sure he's a villain per se.
and does this mean Hiro has a brain tumor? Would explain the nose bleeds and the messed up powers. and of course the immanent death bit.
I am glad Danko got his up comings.
Too bad they couldn't find another story line for Danko though - he was a good bad guy.
Love Samuel - I dig a guy in eyeliner
Yeah I think Hiro's doing a bucket list kinda thing - he has something neurological
Danko was fun, but I think they've learned their lesson of Sylar. Best to cut off the badguy don't keep him around. Not that they can get rid of Sylar now. Well certainly that Pasdar isn't going to be around for another season, unless Hiro does something weird.
Also, not that surprised the girl killed herself.
Comment by 
TriSec on 09/28/2009 16:18:19
TriSec on 09/28/2009 16:18:19
Hey folks...just passing through.
I have a shift at the store this afternoon.
Yep, you read that right. Fuck the healthcare industry and corporate America; I work for LL Bean now. (yeah, I know....but they're still regional and not really "corporatized" quite yet.)
Long story.
I'm not a programmer. I told everyone that. They wanted one anyway.
I have a shift at the store this afternoon.
Yep, you read that right. Fuck the healthcare industry and corporate America; I work for LL Bean now. (yeah, I know....but they're still regional and not really "corporatized" quite yet.)
Long story.
I'm not a programmer. I told everyone that. They wanted one anyway.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/28/2009 16:22:32
Wait! What happened?!!!!!
wickedpam on 09/28/2009 16:22:32
Quote by TriSec:
Hey folks...just passing through.
I have a shift at the store this afternoon.
Yep, you read that right. Fuck the healthcare industry and corporate America; I work for LL Bean now. (yeah, I know....but they're still regional and not really "corporatized" quite yet.)
Long story.
I'm not a programmer. I told everyone that. They wanted one anyway.
Wait! What happened?!!!!!
Comment by Raine on 09/28/2009 16:32:49
Raine on 09/28/2009 16:32:49
Pay attention to this. it's going to make astroturf look like child's play, is only a tip of a large iceberg.
Comment by Raine on 09/28/2009 16:33:31
What the hell!
Raine on 09/28/2009 16:33:31
Quote by TriSec:
Hey folks...just passing through.
I have a shift at the store this afternoon.
Yep, you read that right. Fuck the healthcare industry and corporate America; I work for LL Bean now. (yeah, I know....but they're still regional and not really "corporatized" quite yet.)
Long story.
I'm not a programmer. I told everyone that. They wanted one anyway.
What the hell!
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 09/28/2009 16:35:38
:whips thru the Random-Mala "Heros" stuff:
Tri, OMG! WTF! Asshattery abounds!
Raine, yeah the poll is awful.
VJ, no no male whores for Momma she will turn them gay. I think if you wanna give a gift to Steph, give to St Bernard Rescue. Do in the memory of her Bernard and Steph
On another note, I Mondo have some job news. I start next week as a temp with Convergys listening to other people's phone calls. More than anything, it gets me out of the house.
Mondobubba on 09/28/2009 16:35:38
Quote by velveeta jones:
My, my. Miss Miller has a birthday tomorrow. It snuck up on me. Should we at 4F send her a gift? Cake? Card? Male Whore? Contribution to Elayne Boosler's Tails of Joy in her name?
:whips thru the Random-Mala "Heros" stuff:
Tri, OMG! WTF! Asshattery abounds!
Raine, yeah the poll is awful.
VJ, no no male whores for Momma she will turn them gay. I think if you wanna give a gift to Steph, give to St Bernard Rescue. Do in the memory of her Bernard and Steph
On another note, I Mondo have some job news. I start next week as a temp with Convergys listening to other people's phone calls. More than anything, it gets me out of the house.