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The Forgotten War
Author: BobR Date: 12/12/2007 13:08:57

With all the talk and focus on the "war" in Iraq, you almost never hear stories or discussion about the military actions happening in Afghanistan. It reminds me of the Katrina aftermath - all the discussion was about New Orleans and Biloxi got short shrift despite the heavy destruction they endured.

Sure there have been "only" 734 miitary deaths so far, compared to the 3000+ in Iraq. But this war is now in it's 6th year. What have we gotten for all of the time and money and blood, toil, tears, and sweat invested there?

Apparently, not enough. Sec. Def. Robert Gates is asking for more troops:

US Defense Secretary Robert Gates Tuesday called on NATO allies to fill shortfalls of troops, equipment and resources in Afghanistan, warning of rising violence and the emergence of a classic insurgency...
Gates and Admiral Michael Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said violence has increased, particularly in southern Afghanistan, since a NATO-led force assumed responsibility for security throughout the country in October 2006. Mullen said levels of violence nationwide were up 27 percent over last year, and that in the southern Helmand province the increase was 60 percent. The admiral described the developments as "a classic insurgency" that required "a well coordinated counter-insurgency strategy."
[Like the counter-insurgency strategy that's working so well in Iraq? ]

"And while I applaud NATO for stepping up to the plate, the ISAF is plagued by shortfalls in capability and capacity, and constrained by a host of caveats that limits its ability," he said. Mullen was referring to the 40,000-strong, NATO-led International Security Assistance Force...

Perhaps the problems in Afghanistan are related to the "mistakes" made by the military, and their seemingly cavalier view of the Afghan people as less than human:

The Afghan town of Charikar, 60 kms north of Kabul, has been the recipient of many US bombs and missiles. On Saturday, November 17th, US bombs killed two entire families -- one of 16 members and the other of 14 -- perished, together in the same house.

On the same day, bomb strikes in Khanabad near Kunduz, killed 100 people. A refugee, Mohammed Rasul, recounts himself burying 11 people, pulled out of ruins there.

Multiply these scenes by a couple hundred and the reality on-the-ground in the Afghan October and November is approximated. This same reality is blithely dismissed by the Pentagon and the compliant U.S. corporate media with "the claims could not be independently verified," whereas the military press calls reports of high civilian casualties as being "inflated by air." Another comments on the "humanity of the air war." Yet another, wails about too much press coverage of civilian casualties by a media unable to understand that some civilian casualties must occur but that "what IS newsworthy is that so many bombs hit their targets".

Britain at least is taking a more reasonable tact. They are actually talking to the Afghans:

As the deadliest year in Afghanistan since the US-led invasion in 2001 comes to a close, Gordon Brown is ready to talk to the Taliban in a major shift in strategy that is likely to cause consternation among hardliners in the White House.

Six years after British troops were first deployed to oust the Taliban regime, the Prime Minister believes the time has come to open a dialogue in the hope of moving from military action to consensus-building among the tribal leaders.

Wow - discussion instead of war. What a concept! In fact, they are going so far as to pay farmers NOT to grow opium.

Here's hoping that the British can succeed where the U.S-led NATO effort has failed, and this long war dragging on forgotten by the news outlets can finally come to an end.

363 comments (Latest Comment: 12/13/2007 12:16:04 by TriSec)
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Comment by

velveeta jones on 12/12/2007 13:37:56

How long do I watch?

Comment by

BobR on 12/12/2007 13:56:16

Quote by velveeta jones:

How long do I watch?

Not too long. :punch:

Comment by

velveeta jones on 12/12/2007 14:01:56

Yay!! Its a blog!! Eh, but now I gotta go ................*sigh*

But I leave you with this: Huckabee HATES women almost as much as gays! (Asshat)

Comment by

TriSec on 12/12/2007 14:11:23

Frost in LA, huh?

I have my snow scraper in the car year-round, but that's a Massachusetts thing.

Anyway, given the girly nature of such Southern California "frosts"...the alternate technique of using a credit card would work perfectly well.

Also, try a paint scraper in a pinch, I'm sure you could find those in LA.

Sheesh.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 14:11:55

Good morning! What did the huckster say or/and do now? I have been coming to the opinion regarding this view of woman since I have been watching how he is dealing with the released Rapists problem... He cares more about Dumond than the victims... that is for sure.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 14:13:00

LOL! I can't believe Jim was late becuase of FROST!... wow ... the worst excuse, EVER.

Comment by

TriSec on 12/12/2007 14:16:45

Well gee, if the president should have the authority to order things that are illegal, that would make him a dictator, wouldn't it?

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 14:18:36

How much Ice could have been on that winshield?

Comment by

TriSec on 12/12/2007 14:21:45

Oh, you could also spray some wiper fluid on in a pinch; it's alcohol-based and has a lower freezing point and will instantly dissolve Southern California "frost".

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 14:22:14

Ice on the windshield in LA? Weird. . . it's downright balmy in CT!

Morning. :coffee:

Comment by

TriSec on 12/12/2007 14:26:25

Ok, that's twice a listener has 'scooped' something I posted here. Quit lurking and register, ya mooks!

:modbat:

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 14:32:53

Free For a limitied Time only!

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 14:35:58

if you deported all the undocumented people from NYC, there would be no more NYC, I think.

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 14:37:37

Good morning all.

I remember being down in Florida one February and the local stations issued wind alerts when the temperature went below 50 degrees. Brrrr, we'll blow away. What a bunch of wimps.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 14:38:58

I knew this information in the eighties. Fuckabee is a total bigot.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 14:39:36

We are supposed to get 2-4 inches of snow tomorrow afternoon and things are already being cancelled.

It's NEW ENGLAND PEOPLE!!!! suck it up!

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 14:40:03

Since they canned Kent Jones, is it a sign that Air America Radio is becoming a sinking ship? I now really hope Rachel gets the MSNBC gig (she denied the rumors).

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 14:40:28

Oooh.. 1998, the southern baptist convention... The caller must be talking about what VJ mentioned this morning.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 14:41:18

Quote by livingonli: Since they canned Kent Jones, is it a sign that Air America Radio is becoming a sinking ship? I now really hope Rachel gets the MSNBC gig (she denied the rumors).

HE isn't on Rach anymore???

When did this happen?

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 14:43:00

:rofl: Jim was smited with Frost!

Comment by

TriSec on 12/12/2007 14:43:16

SINNER!

Raine and Bob are demeaning each other!!

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 14:43:30

Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli: Since they canned Kent Jones, is it a sign that Air America Radio is becoming a sinking ship? I now really hope Rachel gets the MSNBC gig (she denied the rumors).

HE isn't on Rach anymore???

When did this happen?

Kent announced on yesterday's show that he was being let go and his last show would be Friday.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 14:44:03

: today's bumper sticker :

"Support The Democratic Party. Vote for Huckabee."

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 14:44:23

Dressed in similar outfits? Like BOYZ 2 MEN?

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 14:45:22

Quote by TriSec: SINNER!

Raine and Bob are demeaning each other!!

Shame Raine! Shame Bobber! Shame! Shame!

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 14:45:23

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/3/2007/12/huckxmas.jpg

Husky boys Big and tall to men actually!

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 14:46:28

Quote by starling310: We are supposed to get 2-4 inches of snow tomorrow afternoon and things are already being cancelled. It's NEW ENGLAND PEOPLE!!!! suck it up!

After a few mild winters up here in the Northeast, people seem to be wussing out more. Things that normally would not cause delays or closures are now doing so. I remember when my school would only close if there was about a foot of snow on the ground at least.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 14:46:53

Quote by starling310:
Quote by TriSec: SINNER!

Raine and Bob are demeaning each other!!

Shame Raine! Shame Bobber! Shame! Shame!

And we demean often and much. Wow I feel so repressed....

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 14:47:51

Quote by Raine:

Donde Los Yikes? Looks like the kind of family in horror movies that kidnaps and tortures people in their basements.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 14:49:20

Quote by Raine: Husky boys Big and tall to men actually!

Awesome.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 14:50:49

Quote by livingonli:
Quote by starling310: We are supposed to get 2-4 inches of snow tomorrow afternoon and things are already being cancelled. It's NEW ENGLAND PEOPLE!!!! suck it up!

After a few mild winters up here in the Northeast, people seem to be wussing out more. Things that normally would not cause delays or closures are now doing so. I remember when my school would only close if there was about a foot of snow on the ground at least.

Yeah, and you certainly wouldn't know the night before.

Now, if there is just snow in the forecast they cancel.

Oy Vay!

We are a society of wimps. . . electric garage door openers, cardboard sleeves on our coffee cups. . .

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 14:53:49

Here Mukasey....just put your head back....we'll give it try and then you can tell me if you felt tortured.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 14:56:46

oh dear... Was that Chip from the message board?

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 14:57:54

Oh. So the ends justify the means. Oh Okay.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 14:58:32

for Chip... a special audicon just for you... :P

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 14:58:35

A crime of passion is still a crime!

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 14:59:44

Quote by starling310: Oh. So the ends justify the means. Oh Okay.

It slays me when that defense is used. It makes us just as bad as our enemy then... the logic of people who defend torture truly astounds me.

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 14:59:57

Quote by starling310: Oh. So the ends justify the means. Oh Okay.

An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind-Gandhi

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 15:02:04

Quote by Raine:
Quote by starling310: Oh. So the ends justify the means. Oh Okay.

It slays me when that defense is used. It makes us just as bad as our enemy then... the logic of people who defend torture truly astounds me.

Not much different from the "Good Germans" who just sat back while Hitler committed all his atrocities. I think some of these Republicans are of the same mentality as the people who supported Hitler.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 15:03:06

How do you go without power for a week? Wouldn't your pipes freeze? Oof...what a major pain in the a**!

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 15:03:13

Quote by livingonli:
Quote by starling310: We are supposed to get 2-4 inches of snow tomorrow afternoon and things are already being cancelled. It's NEW ENGLAND PEOPLE!!!! suck it up!

After a few mild winters up here in the Northeast, people seem to be wussing out more. Things that normally would not cause delays or closures are now doing so. I remember when my school would only close if there was about a foot of snow on the ground at least.

Mild winter?!

For the past 5 years I've had to dig out from more snow then ever before and have frozen my ass off. I live in frickin Virginia! We're in the south, below the Mason/Dixon. We're supposed to have mild winters! Stupid Climate Change!

Morning BTW! :hug:

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 15:05:07

Quote by livingonli:
Quote by starling310: Oh. So the ends justify the means. Oh Okay.

An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind-Gandhi

Bush would have had Ghandi Waterboarded.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 15:06:42

I have gone without electric for a while, myself. If you keep the water at a slow drip, you can usually prevent pipes from freezing and breaking.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 15:08:04

Naomi Klein!!! SWEET!

Best book I've read in a long, LONG time.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 15:09:57

Quote by Raine: I have gone without electric for a while, myself. If you keep the water at a slow drip, you can usually prevent pipes from freezing and breaking.

OH! Really? I'll have to remember that.

But how does the water stay warm if the Water heater is electric?

Or, does it not need to be warm water?

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 15:10:05

Mgm with the Dick Morris jokes. :rofl:

He's also ripping on Chip's call over at the other blog.

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 15:10:18

Gen X started in 67 I thought

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 15:10:23

So wait... what does that me? a gen X'r??? I so do not feel like a genexer.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 15:10:40

Jim's only 7 years older than my parents.

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 15:11:58

I always thought we were the first Gen X'ers or part of one of those Sandwich Generations.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 15:12:01

Quote by starling310:
Quote by Raine: I have gone without electric for a while, myself. If you keep the water at a slow drip, you can usually prevent pipes from freezing and breaking.

OH! Really? I'll have to remember that.

But how does the water stay warm if the Water heater is electric?

Or, does it not need to be warm water?

I always let it drip. I turned the hot water on, so the water would have to move thru it even tho it wasn't heating it up.

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 15:12:07

Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by starling310: We are supposed to get 2-4 inches of snow tomorrow afternoon and things are already being cancelled. It's NEW ENGLAND PEOPLE!!!! suck it up!

After a few mild winters up here in the Northeast, people seem to be wussing out more. Things that normally would not cause delays or closures are now doing so. I remember when my school would only close if there was about a foot of snow on the ground at least.

Mild winter?!

For the past 5 years I've had to dig out from more snow then ever before and have frozen my ass off. I live in frickin Virginia! We're in the south, below the Mason/Dixon. We're supposed to have mild winters! Stupid Climate Change!

Remember the mild winters we had in the late 90's. There was a decent stretch between '96 and '02 when we weren't getting that much snow and warmer than normal temperatures most of the time.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 15:13:26

One time I was stumbling home, and I walked into a blind person... not one of my proud moments...

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 15:13:43

Quote by wickedpam: Gen X started in 67 I thought

That's what I think it is. Those of us who were in the 20's during the Grunge era are considered Gen Xers. That's when that term was created.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 15:13:54

When did GEN-X end? I was born in '77.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 15:14:28

Quote by Raine: One time I was stumbling home, and I walked into a blind person... not one of my proud moments...

:spit:

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 15:15:40

Useless trivia about

----

I prefer "Happy" Christmas to "Merry" Christmas. Please make a note of it.

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 15:15:43

Generation X is a term used to describe generations in many countries around the world which were born between 1965 and 1980. The exact demographic boundaries of Generation X are not well defined, depending on who is using the term, where and when. The term is used in demography, the social sciences, and marketing, though it is most often used in popular culture. The generation's influence over pop culture began in the 1980s and may have peaked in the 1990s.[citation needed]

Gen X - Wiki It's from the Wiki so take it was a grain of salt

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 15:16:52

Quote by Raine: One time I was stumbling home, and I walked into a blind person... not one of my proud moments...

And I thought I was bad for tripping over air.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 15:17:28

Quote by starling310: Useless trivia about ----

I prefer "Happy" Christmas to "Merry" Christmas. Please make a note of it.

Note made! I also on occasions like to use Merry Holidays.

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 15:17:28

Quote by Raine: One time I was stumbling home, and I walked into a blind person... not one of my proud moments...

Were you drinking gin at the time?

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 15:19:22

Quote by livingonli:
Quote by Raine: One time I was stumbling home, and I walked into a blind person... not one of my proud moments...

Were you drinking gin at the time?

Hmm.. this was in college, so I do believe I was drinking 7&7's with southern comfort shots....

(again, not one of my prouder periods of life)

Side note: Sex also helps release Endolphins!

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 15:26:41

We have punished our own for this... So this would explain WHY they detroyed those tapes... the CIA KNOWS it was against the law.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 15:27:07

Dana always sounds a little sleepy.

Comment by

TriSec on 12/12/2007 15:27:37

I made my own definition of GenX long ago...if you graduated High School in the 80s, you're in.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 15:28:18

Obama Ties Hillary in NH!

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 15:29:14

Impeachment: It's not just for breakfast anymore.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 15:29:19

Quote by starling310: Dana always sounds a little sleepy.

Valium, baby... it makes everythig all better...

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 15:30:34

Quote by TriSec: I made my own definition of GenX long ago...if you graduated High School in the 80s, you're in.

OMG! I am demeaning with a baby Boomer! it's like cat's and dogs sleaping together!

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 15:34:35

Yeah Jim MOran!

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 15:35:07

Oh...no....now the draaaaaagy stream will start.

STUPID CONGRESSMAN!

Comment by

TriSec on 12/12/2007 15:37:44

*out of the blue*

Have I told you guys recently how much I love you all?

Really....I'm just glad that you're all here and we've made this place what it is. :doffs cap:

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 15:38:33

Quote by Raine:
Quote by TriSec: I made my own definition of GenX long ago...if you graduated High School in the 80s, you're in.

OMG! I am demeaning with a baby Boomer! it's like cat's and dogs sleaping together!

Comment by

TriSec on 12/12/2007 15:38:43

Quote by Raine:
Quote by TriSec: I made my own definition of GenX long ago...if you graduated High School in the 80s, you're in.

OMG! I am demeaning with a baby Boomer! it's like cat's and dogs sleaping together!

Hmm, I resemble that remark! (TriSec...liking the older wimmins!)

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 15:42:13

Tell the Iraqis what we are going to "insist upon?" See, I have a huge problem with that. We went over there! They didn't ask us to come and occupy them. Why should we insist on anything. THEY should be insisting that we get the hell out. And, they have been!

That's such an arrogant attitude.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 15:44:10

Quote by TriSec: *out of the blue*

Have I told you guys recently how much I love you all?

Really....I'm just glad that you're all here and we've made this place what it is. :doffs cap:

Amen my friend!

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 15:45:04

Sean Hannity is an A-hole.

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 15:45:14

Quote by TriSec: *out of the blue*

Have I told you guys recently how much I love you all?

Really....I'm just glad that you're all here and we've made this place what it is. :doffs cap:

Aaaawww shucks!

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 15:47:38

HEre is a link to the article that tears apart what huckabee has been saying... save it, bookmark it and use oft.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 15:50:58

"Jim Moran: The Director's Cut"

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 15:51:25

Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by TriSec: *out of the blue*

Have I told you guys recently how much I love you all?

Really....I'm just glad that you're all here and we've made this place what it is. :doffs cap:

Aaaawww shucks!

I feel so cutesy now.

Comment by

BobR on 12/12/2007 15:53:44

Quote by starling310: When did GEN-X end? I was born in '77.

I graduated from High School in '78... :thud:

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 15:54:16

Momma on Neal Cavuto. Again? I'll be at work so I will miss that one.

Comment by

TriSec on 12/12/2007 15:55:26

Quote by Raine: HEre is a link to the article that tears apart what huckabee has been saying... save it, bookmark it and use oft.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 15:55:51

Huck still not sure how Aids is spread.

Comment by

TriSec on 12/12/2007 15:55:55

Erm, Huckabee, not Raine, on that soundclip.

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 15:57:42

Quote by livingonli: Momma on Neal Cavuto. Again? I'll be at work so I will miss that one.

Which also means I will miss the girls gone wild and other softcore stories that he puts on his show.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 16:05:50

Quote by TriSec: Erm, Huckabee, not Raine, on that soundclip.

I knew that! (But I also know I can be a real loser sometimes, so it is all good)

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 16:06:23

Quote by livingonli:
Quote by livingonli: Momma on Neal Cavuto. Again? I'll be at work so I will miss that one.

Which also means I will miss the girls gone wild and other softcore stories that he puts on his show.

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 16:08:34

Dude does your car have defrost?

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 16:09:47

43? Wow that's frigged, it was only 23 here yesterday morning and we're expecting what could be a Nor'Easter in the next few day!

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 16:10:18

:rofl: the yes man... Heh heh.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 16:11:11

Quote by Raine: the yes man... Heh heh.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 16:12:06

PLEASE! DO NOT MENTION OPRAH!

:thud:

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 16:12:55

Quote by starling310: PLEASE! DO NOT MENTION OPRAH!

:thud:

Expecially in a southern preacher voice...

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 16:17:32

Jessica Simpson wants to be an actor?

:spit: :rofl:

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 16:17:40

Bush set to Veto BiPartisan Health care bill --- AGAIN.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 16:18:43

I think Jim is just "Pandering" with all these impressions. How inauthentic and disingenuous. HARUMPF!

: stomping off in fristy heels :

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 16:19:42

Her back up pager.

Comment by

BobR on 12/12/2007 16:20:04

Quote by starling310: Jessica Simpson wants to be an actor?

:spit: :rofl:

Her acting range:

annnnndd - scene!

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/12/2007 16:20:46

Quote by starling310: PLEASE! DO NOT MENTION OPRAH!

:thud:

:helps Star to her feet, raintini squeeze bottle: :whispers, softly in her shell like ear: oprah

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 16:22:12

Arctic Summer Ice could be gone by 2013... :thud:

And this is a conservative estimate.

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/12/2007 16:22:23

Quote by BobR:
Quote by starling310: Jessica Simpson wants to be an actor?

:spit: :rofl:

Her acting range:

annnnndd - scene!

That wide, Bobber??

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 16:23:34

Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by starling310: PLEASE! DO NOT MENTION OPRAH!

:thud:

:helps Star to her feet, raintini squeeze bottle: :whispers, softly in her shell like ear: oprah

Well palyed sir! (heya Mondo!)

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/12/2007 16:25:49

Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by Raine: One time I was stumbling home, and I walked into a blind person... not one of my proud moments...

Were you drinking gin at the time?

Hmm.. this was in college, so I do believe I was drinking 7&7's with southern comfort shots.... (again, not one of my prouder periods of life)

Side note: Sex also helps release Endolphins!

:scans: endolphins? You let them out of the tank when you have sex?? Doesn't that flood the whole room?? :D

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 16:25:52

Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by BobR:
Quote by starling310: Jessica Simpson wants to be an actor?

:spit: :rofl:

Her acting range:

annnnndd - scene!

That wide, Bobber??

And he ain't talking stance here!

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 16:26:50

Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by Raine: One time I was stumbling home, and I walked into a blind person... not one of my proud moments...

Were you drinking gin at the time?

Hmm.. this was in college, so I do believe I was drinking 7&7's with southern comfort shots.... (again, not one of my prouder periods of life)

Side note: Sex also helps release Endolphins!

:scans: endolphins? You let them out of the tank when you have sex?? Doesn't that flood the whole room?? :D

:whistling:

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 16:28:11

Iran's "Wesson" program?

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 16:28:47

Joe Klein :usa:

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/12/2007 16:31:52

A belated hello to you all. Home from work. There was a

incident! :thud:

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/12/2007 16:33:26

Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by Raine: One time I was stumbling home, and I walked into a blind person... not one of my proud moments...

Were you drinking gin at the time?

Hmm.. this was in college, so I do believe I was drinking 7&7's with southern comfort shots.... (again, not one of my prouder periods of life)

Side note: Sex also helps release Endolphins!

:scans: endolphins? You let them out of the tank when you have sex?? Doesn't that flood the whole room?? :D
:whistling:

As long as you 'n Bobber are not harming the endolphins, who am I to question?

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 16:34:30

Quote by Mondobubba: A belated hello to you all. Home from work. There was a incident! :thud:

In 1st Grade I through up on my friend Mark's shoes.

Did someone throw up on your shoes?

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 16:35:45

I suddenly feel like Mary Katherine Gallagher falling into a pile of folding chairs. We had a power flash and everything went kerflewy! I was in the middle of working and blogging and listening! Thank Gawd my computer auto-saved!

:thud:

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 16:36:17

Reporter Arrested for covering story.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 16:37:43

Quote by Mondobubba: A belated hello to you all. Home from work. There was a incident! :thud:

oh no! you feeling alright now?

Comment by

TriSec on 12/12/2007 16:38:28

Quote by Raine: Bush set to Veto BiPartisan Health care bill --- AGAIN.

Couldn't somebody put in a rider ensuring 100% coverage of penis pills for old, white men? He'd sign it then, wouldn't he? I'm sure that's not too large a price to pay...

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 16:38:57

Quote by wickedpam: I suddenly feel like Mary Katherine Gallagher falling into a pile of folding chairs. We had a power flash and everything went kerflewy! I was in the middle of working and blogging and listening! Thank Gawd my computer auto-saved!

:thud:

http://members.tripod.com/marycatherinegalager/04d807a0.jpg

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/12/2007 16:39:15

Quote by starling310:
Quote by Mondobubba: A belated hello to you all. Home from work. There was a incident! :thud:

In 1st Grade I through up on my friend Mark's shoes.

Did someone throw up on your shoes?

Oh I wish! Then I could have gotten hurl chain reaction! Mass

No, I just had to hurf, BAD! I still have the tremors and twitches from my parasympathetic nervous system cutting it. Gotta love the flight or fight response.

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/12/2007 16:40:03

Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba: A belated hello to you all. Home from work. There was a incident! :thud:
oh no! you feeling alright now?

See below

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 16:40:12

Quote by TriSec:
Quote by Raine: Bush set to Veto BiPartisan Health care bill --- AGAIN.

Couldn't somebody put in a rider ensuring 100% coverage of penis pills for old, white men? He'd sign it then, wouldn't he? I'm sure that's not too large a price to pay...

:shudder:

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 16:41:03

"The Shock Doctrine" is such a good book!

Naomi!

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 16:41:26

Gingerly

mondo.

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 16:42:15

Mondo needs Ginger ale and saltines stat! (it was my Nana's cure all)

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 16:43:25

Quote by Raine: Reporter Arrested for covering story.

Interesting.

I am planning a blog post for when I finish 'Watchdogs of Democracy? The Waning Washington Press Corps and How it has Failed the Public' - Helen Thomas

She talks about this very type of stuff!

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 16:43:46

Good question about connectign the dots from

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 16:43:59

Aww...Jim is so cute when he gets a little stumbly. :wub2:

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 16:44:48

:usa: Naomi Klien

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 16:45:16

Poor Mondo.

~~~~~ healing non-puke vibes ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/12/2007 16:45:26

Quote by wickedpam: Mondo needs Ginger ale and saltines stat! (it was my Nana's cure all)

Indeed I do! Nana was a wise woman, Mala.

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/12/2007 16:46:19

:whispers: Oprah!

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 16:48:29

:grumble: Dennis booted from Iowa debate....

:bad:

Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D) is being excluded from this week’s Iowa presidential debate because he has not rented office space in the Hawkeye State, his campaign said Wednesday.

The Des Moines Register informed the campaign that Kucinich is not invited because the newspaper determined “that a person working out of his home did not meet our criteria for a campaign office and full-time paid staff in Iowa,” the campaign said.

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 16:49:23

Quote by starling310: Aww...Jim is so cute when he gets a little stumbly. :wub2:

Jim and Naomi sittin in a tree...! :lol:

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 16:49:42

Quote by Mondobubba: :whispers: Oprah!

:whispers: Oprahma!

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 16:51:09

Quote by Raine: :grumble: Dennis booted from Iowa debate....

:bad:

Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D) is being excluded from this week’s Iowa presidential debate because he has not rented office space in the Hawkeye State, his campaign said Wednesday.

The Des Moines Register informed the campaign that Kucinich is not invited because the newspaper determined “that a person working out of his home did not meet our criteria for a campaign office and full-time paid staff in Iowa,” the campaign said.

F*ckin Fred

I wonder if this is a way to remove any real progressive voice from the debaates. I wonder if they left out Gravel as well.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 16:53:25

Quote by Raine: :grumble: Dennis booted from Iowa debate....

:bad:

Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D) is being excluded from this week’s Iowa presidential debate because he has not rented office space in the Hawkeye State, his campaign said Wednesday.

The Des Moines Register informed the campaign that Kucinich is not invited because the newspaper determined “that a person working out of his home did not meet our criteria for a campaign office and full-time paid staff in Iowa,” the campaign said.

WHAT?!! MOTHER @&*@$_*^$IHGAOUYGWE^T@)^%T(#$*&$(#*&%^#$)(&^

ARE YOU F*CKING KIDDING ME!?!?!

“that a person working out of his home did not meet our criteria for a campaign office and full-time paid staff in Iowa,” the campaign said.

WE NEED TO GET THE F*CKING MONEY OUT OF POLITICS!

F*CKIN' FRED IS RIGHT!

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 16:54:15

Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by starling310: Aww...Jim is so cute when he gets a little stumbly. :wub2:

Jim and Naomi sittin in a tree...! :lol:

Naomi's married. I actually met her husband, before he was her husband Avi Lewis

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 16:54:18

All the dems have to do is pound home the fact that the republicans support continuing Bush's policies. it is that simple.

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 16:54:35

Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam: Mondo needs Ginger ale and saltines stat! (it was my Nana's cure all)

Indeed I do! Nana was a wise woman, Mala.

Isn't it funny how the old cures usually end up being the thing that works the best.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 16:56:01

Romney doesn't like Eggplant?

Well, there's Reason #1 not to vote for him.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 16:56:06

{Fred_Gump} On the food questionaire.

Comment by

TriSec on 12/12/2007 16:58:35

Quote by Raine: :grumble: Dennis booted from Iowa debate....

:bad:

Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D) is being excluded from this week’s Iowa presidential debate because he has not rented office space in the Hawkeye State, his campaign said Wednesday.

The Des Moines Register informed the campaign that Kucinich is not invited because the newspaper determined “that a person working out of his home did not meet our criteria for a campaign office and full-time paid staff in Iowa,” the campaign said.

Would that the rest of the candidates would band together and say 'If he's not invited, I'm not coming either". But you know they won't.

Way to stand for your principles, fuckers.

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 16:58:54

B-Box Rox. Isn't that

's phrase.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 16:58:59

Guy walks into a pub with Cauliflower in his ears.

Barkeep says "Oy! You realize you have Cauliflower in your ears?"

Guy :: takes out cauliflower : "Oy? What's that?"

Barkeep : "Why the Cauliflower in your ears?"

Guy : "It keeps the Elephants away."

Barkeep "Well, I don't see any Elephants"

Guy : "It must be workin' then!"

Hiiiyooooo!

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 17:00:22

Quote by starling310: Romney doesn't like Eggplant?

Well, there's Reason #1 not to vote for him.

MMM, I love the eggplant.

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/12/2007 17:00:32

Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba: :whispers: Oprah!

:whispers: Oprahma!

:SHUDDER:

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 17:01:50

Quote by livingonli: B-Box Rox. Isn't that 's phrase.

BBox is the Senator's nickname, given by yours truly.

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 17:04:41

I love the decorating the tree story from NJ that AAR Phoneix just had.

<-- weepy in the Holiday Sprite kinda teariness

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 17:11:05

:rofl:

Mike Huckabee's Holiday Message to Iowa!

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 17:18:02

Quote by Raine:

Mike Huckabee's Holiday Message to Iowa!

:rofl:

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 17:22:04

HEya Tri, no one posted the KBR story from yesterdays blog on the MB, you wanna do that?

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 17:24:26

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 17:40:00

omg... I just heard on the TV machine that at today's Iowa dabate, (2pm EST) Alan KEYES will be on the stage!!! :wacko:

Comment by

velveeta jones on 12/12/2007 18:03:56

Quote by Raine: omg... I just heard on the TV machine that at today's Iowa dabate, (2pm EST) Alan KEYES will be on the stage!!! :wacko:

(I'm temporarily back).

OOOH. Alan Keyes! What a fun nutjob he is. And this "debate" will be on FAUX? So, the questions should be softer than softballs..........more like cotton balls: "Gov. Huckabee, some press are saying you agree with the SBC and signed an ad in USA Today to the regards that women should submit to their husbands, which does your wife prefer, diamonds or pearls"?

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 18:11:52

just read somehing scary in a youtube comment... Not sure what to think, but it is rahter thought provoking:

I would never compare Bush to Hitler.

Hitler actually fought in a war.

Hitler didn't pass his early years in an alcoholic haze.

Hitler was democratically elected.

When Hitler spoke, people didn't snicker.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 18:13:34

Quote by velveeta jones:
Quote by Raine: omg... I just heard on the TV machine that at today's Iowa dabate, (2pm EST) Alan KEYES will be on the stage!!! :wacko:

(I'm temporarily back).

OOOH. Alan Keyes! What a fun nutjob he is. And this "debate" will be on FAUX? So, the questions should be softer than softballs..........more like cotton balls: "Gov. Huckabee, some press are saying you agree with the SBC and signed an ad in USA Today to the regards that women should submit to their husbands, which does your wife prefer, diamonds or pearls"?

Well, the debate is sponsored by the DesMoine newspaper... I think MSNBC will be showing it as well...

But yeah, I am thinking this is going to be a very interesting debate.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 18:14:55

oh wait, Ms. jones, I could be wrong on this... I think you are right.. Faux is showing the debate according to the channel guide...

I used to love a good game of softball... :(

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 18:17:38

Quote by Raine: just read somehing scary in a youtube comment... Not sure what to think, but it is rahter thought provoking:

I would never compare Bush to Hitler.

Hitler actually fought in a war.

Hitler didn't pass his early years in an alcoholic haze.

Hitler was democratically elected.

When Hitler spoke, people didn't snicker.

That's all true.

Not everyone in the military is a nice person. ( sorry )

It's possible for there to be sober scumbags. I've met several in my life.

Being Democratically elected perhaps means that it's a dumb, or uninformed, or disinterested Electorate.

Persuasive speakers are not always selling a good message.

Point is, Dictators and Fascists come in all flavors, boys and girls.

Comment by

BobR on 12/12/2007 18:20:23

Just back from the "Holiday Luncheon"...

That's "luncheon" as in - no Christmas party this year, no raise, but we'll take you to the Japanese steak house and hope you don't realize that this is even less than last year

:unappreciative grumble:

Comment by

BobR on 12/12/2007 18:21:43

Quote by velveeta jones:

(I'm temporarily back).

OOOH. Alan Keyes! What a fun nutjob he is. And this "debate" will be on FAUX? So, the questions should be softer than softballs..........more like cotton balls: "Gov. Huckabee, some press are saying you agree with the SBC and signed an ad in USA Today to the regards that women should submit to their husbands, which does your wife prefer, diamonds or pearls"?

Do backrubs come with the questions?

btw - Huckabee's response: She likes pearl necklaces :sly grin:

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 18:22:28

Hayden just got done testyfying... The wh is holding the line that they did not know about the tapes. GRRR...

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 18:24:36

I am torn, a bit, about Thom's topic today. He is discussing corporate/government regulation to "protect our kids." It's always hard for me to know when the line will be drawn. When does it become a situation where we are legislating morality?

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 18:29:03

Quote by starling310: I am torn, a bit, about Thom's topic today. He is discussing corporate/government regulation to "protect our kids." It's always hard for me to know when the line will be drawn. When does it become a situation where we are legislating morality?

Personaly I always liked the fact that our school systems were socialized. NEver liked the corporatism creeping in to things like food and uniforms and such.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 18:35:35

Quote by starling310:
Quote by Raine: just read somehing scary in a youtube comment... Not sure what to think, but it is rahter thought provoking:

I would never compare Bush to Hitler.

Hitler actually fought in a war.

Hitler didn't pass his early years in an alcoholic haze.

Hitler was democratically elected.

When Hitler spoke, people didn't snicker.

That's all true.

Not everyone in the military is a nice person. ( sorry )

It's possible for there to be sober scumbags. I've met several in my life.

Being Democratically elected perhaps means that it's a dumb, or uninformed, or disinterested Electorate.

Persuasive speakers are not always selling a good message.

Point is, Dictators and Fascists come in all flavors, boys and girls.

SEE? Thougth provoking!

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 18:35:57

MSNBC is indeed airing the debate today.

Comment by

velveeta jones on 12/12/2007 18:38:30

Quote by Raine:
Quote by starling310: I am torn, a bit, about Thom's topic today. He is discussing corporate/government regulation to "protect our kids." It's always hard for me to know when the line will be drawn. When does it become a situation where we are legislating morality?

Personaly I always liked the fact that our school systems were socialized. NEver liked the corporatism creeping in to things like food and uniforms and such.

Ron Paul wants to get gov't out of schooling. That would leave either homeskoolin' or corporate schools who could set the cost of tuition, uniforms, books, etc. And even deny "certain" types from ever getting an education. (I don't have Thom on, we get him at 3pm EST - delayed).

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 18:44:58

I can't wait to see if they question Huckabee on his statement where he asked whether or not JEsus and Satan were brothers in the Mormon relgion.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 18:46:12

Quote by velveeta jones:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by starling310: I am torn, a bit, about Thom's topic today. He is discussing corporate/government regulation to "protect our kids." It's always hard for me to know when the line will be drawn. When does it become a situation where we are legislating morality?

Personaly I always liked the fact that our school systems were socialized. NEver liked the corporatism creeping in to things like food and uniforms and such.

Ron Paul wants to get gov't out of schooling. That would leave either homeskoolin' or corporate schools who could set the cost of tuition, uniforms, books, etc. And even deny "certain" types from ever getting an education. (I don't have Thom on, we get him at 3pm EST - delayed).

Something else I do not like about Ron Paul.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 18:47:13

ok I have thom back on for a little bit, gonna see if I can multitask during the Debate. It is the last one in Iowa for the ®'s...

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 18:51:33

Quote by velveeta jones:

Ron Paul wants to get gov't out of schooling. That would leave either homeskoolin' or corporate schools who could set the cost of tuition, uniforms, books, etc. And even deny "certain" types from ever getting an education. (I don't have Thom on, we get him at 3pm EST - delayed).

Right.

Yeah, Thom started in the first hour, talking about junk food in schools, etc.

And, while I agree with him on those points, I wonder where the line is. To some degree I think it is the place of parents to raise their kids as they see fit.

I guess I started thinking about a blog convo from a while ago, about banning the sale of porn rags in convenience stores, or something like that. And, then I thought of a bumper sticker that I saw recently that said "Focus on your own damn family" which I gave a big "Hell yeah!" So, I wonder where the line is for me.

I guess a porn rag isn't going to necessarily "hurt" a child if they catch a glimpse, so I don't think that's Governments place to decide.

This is me right now ----->

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 18:51:35

It's also on CNN so the debate is on all news channels in all its craptacularness.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 18:51:53

No, we are not Going....Soldiers in 2nd Platoon, Charlie 1-26 stage a ‘mutiny’ that pulls the unit apart

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/12/2007 18:52:49

Quote by Raine:

Mike Huckabee's Holiday Message to Iowa!

:spit:

:rofl: Mike is not made of plastic. :sniggle:

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/12/2007 18:56:23

Ohh Tri have ya played with Google's Streetview?? Have ya, have ya?

You're in Boston! Tell us about the new toy???

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:00:51

HOLY CRAP! the MSNBC feed just cut over to PBS! it is a REAL debate!

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:02:06

Quote by livingonli: It's also on CNN so the debate is on all news channels in all its craptacularness.

Did CNN cut over to the PBS feed as well?

The Editor in chief of the Register is the moderator!

Comment by

TriSec on 12/12/2007 19:02:55

I saw it on the Globe yesterday (Invasion of Privacy!!! Fear!!! Panic!!!) but I have not been to see.

Hey, I live here, I don't need to see the city in excruciating detail.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:05:25

100,000 civilain workers could get laid of Says WH, if Iraq Spending is not passed.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:05:57

Wow. Already she is putting the smack down on Rudy with the rules.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:06:51

She just scolded again... 30 seconds is the amount of time sir. :P

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 19:07:04

IS this debate on the internet?

Comment by

BobR on 12/12/2007 19:07:12

New AudiCons just in time for the debate!!:

eediot1:

eediot2:

eediot3:

Dont_Like_It:

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:08:07

The question was is our NAtional DEbt a threat to our national Security. Rudy said no. :rolleyes:

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:09:06

Quote by wickedpam: IS this debate on the internet?

I don't know. I should scurry over to PBS and see.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:10:02

Live Steam here!!!

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 19:10:16

I'm also getting it on WNET and WLIW World.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:11:35

:huh: ? McCain promised tha tin 5 years we will become oil independent! Wow!

OOH Alan keyes! Wants the Fair tax!

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 19:13:12

I'm sticking with Thom Hartmann. But I may consider it an option if Randi starts bloviating on the drive in to work.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:13:46

New question: What Sacrifices would you ask of Americans to make to cut down debt?

Rudy said he would cut non military spending by 10 percent.

Ron paul up... He said no sacrifices at all for Americans. HE wants to cut all the military bases overseas.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:14:53

Huckabee thinks we should kill snakes instead of treating snake bites... :rofl:

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:15:51

Mitt looks like That game show guy... his hair is extra crispy today.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:16:37

Oh, I forgot to tell you the moderator has made it clear that SHE is charge, adn that she didn't want a lot of Iraq war talk.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:17:58

Tancredo just said the Governemtn should not be expected to build a bubble of protection around people... :headscrtch: So What about that wall?

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:18:48

OOh Fred getting fiesty! HE said he would cut medicare.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:19:26

OK, Alan Keyes did n't like the question about who is paying the most unfair burden of taxes.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:20:54

OMG! Romney said he doesn't go to sleep at night wrrying about the taxes Rich people pay...

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:21:45

Not one of them would lower the tax rate for the rich... ALL want the Fair tax.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:22:26

Tancredo wants to get rid of the IRS.

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 19:22:56

fair tax is not so fair if your stuck in the middle

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:23:20

Rudy wants to cut the corporate tax.

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 19:23:41

That young couple needs to use turbo tax if they're spending 450 to get their tawes done.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 19:23:57

Ooh...look at Thom! Throwing in a little "Gomer Pile" impression.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:24:16

Quote by wickedpam: fair tax is not so fair if your stuck in the middle

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:25:02

Tancredo will build and finish the border fence in 6 months! he must be a fast builder!

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 19:25:03

When are they going to do the Dems?

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:25:34

Wow, Ron Paul wants to open the border with Cuba!

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 19:28:16

Quote by Raine: OMG! Romney said he doesn't go to sleep at night wrrying about the taxes Rich people pay...

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:28:45

Quote by wickedpam: When are they going to do the Dems?

Not sure this one was originally scheduled for the 3 and the Dems on december 4... So maybe tommorrow?

Let me go look more.

oofda... Rudy Said he thinks Nafta is GREAT!

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 19:28:51

Poor Mitt.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:30:41

Tommorrow is the Dem debate.

Comment by

BobR on 12/12/2007 19:31:49

Quote by Raine: Not one of them would lower the tax rate for the rich... ALL want the Fair tax.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:32:24

I must say, that while I am disgusted with these men, thier answers and the like, I am so very impressed with the debate forumn. THIS is what a debate is suppsed to be!

To Des Moines Register!

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:33:34

Quote by BobR:
Quote by Raine: Not one of them would lower the tax rate for the rich... ALL want the Fair tax.

:rofl:

HOLY F*CK! Fred said he would not answer a question becuase the moderator would not bend the rules for him.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:34:48

a 30 sencond question about Global warming to Fred:

"Can you give me a minute to Answer it?"

Moderator: "NO"

Fred: "Then I am not going to Answer it"

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:35:46

Moderator:

, it is my debate...

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:36:45

Mitt Just said it isn't fair for the United states to have to tackle global warming alone.

He said we should ask the World to take part in this dillemma.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:37:48

HAH! Moderator Just said she is going to ask a question that Iowans will not let them get out of answering. What a bunch of childish frat boys.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:39:10

Hmmm.......... Huckabee just said he thinks the Government should be the marketplace when it comes to alternative fuels...

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 19:39:14

Quote by Raine: a 30 sencond question about Global warming to Fred:

"Can you give me a minute to Answer it?"

Moderator: "NO"

Fred: "Then I am not going to Answer it"

baby!

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 19:39:53

Quote by Raine: Hmmm.......... Huckabee just said he thinks the Government should be the marketplace when it comes to alternative fuels...

Hmmm - I smell rationing.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 19:40:13

Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine: a 30 sencond question about Global warming to Fred:

"Can you give me a minute to Answer it?"

Moderator: "NO"

Fred: "Then I am not going to Answer it"

baby!

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:40:15

Quote by Raine: Hmmm.......... Huckabee just said he thinks the Government should be the marketplace when it comes to alternative fuels...

And madates, Sorry...

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 19:40:21

Quote by wickedpam: When are they going to do the Dems?

I believe it is tomorrow at the same time.

But I'm pissed that Kucinich is being left out.

Comment by

BobR on 12/12/2007 19:40:29

Quote by Raine: Mitt Just said it isn't fair for the United states to have to tackle global warming alone.

He said we should ask the World to take part in this dillemma.

Perhaps someone should give him the Cliff Notes on the Kyoto Treaty

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:42:17

:yadda: Huckabee is trying to say that he would be elected as president for the little people... He looks like he is preaching.

New topic:

Education. Talking about how far behind we are in science and Math.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:42:57

McCains answer: Choice and privatization, competition.

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 19:43:15

Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine: a 30 sencond question about Global warming to Fred:

"Can you give me a minute to Answer it?"

Moderator: "NO"

Fred: "Then I am not going to Answer it"

baby!

Starling's

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:44:26

Wow, Rudy wants to privatize public schools as well.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:46:41

Tancredo is actually making sense on this issue... have teachers that are inspired to teach. Give the teachers the tools.

ooop. Spoke too soon. he just said school choice, and he blames Unions for destroying the Public school. So never mind. Tancredo is bat shit crazy too .

Mitt LOVES NCLB. Said he had NCLB before the president! (tri... can you confirm or deny?)

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 19:46:47

Is "bringing in Inspirational Teachers" in "NCLB?"

I NO THINK SO!

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 19:47:32

The politician "Thumb press" is sooooo annoying!

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:48:40

Huckabee Wants the feds to stay involved in Education.

Wants a more personized learning environment. HE does support music and Art funding... DAMN. Huck has a good answer on that.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 19:49:04

How can you personalize learning and inspire kids when you are a slave to "No Child Left Behind?"

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 19:49:19

Quote by Raine: McCains answer: Choice and privatization, competition.

Why are Republicans answers so predictable? I think I am learning more from Hartmann about how privatization is destroying everything.

If these policies are allowed to continue, will Marx be proven right about capitalism?

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 19:49:34

Why is he there?

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 19:49:39

Why is Alan Keyes there?

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:49:54

Well Alan Keyes Just decided to Hijack a question that wasn't his own... and now he is bloviating on bringing God in tohe schools... This is really crazy stuff.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 19:50:25

He's a whole bucket 'o crazy.

And, sounds....a bit gay.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:50:55

I have no idea why keyes is there at all. But what he just did was abysmall.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 19:52:14

I agree with Ron Paul's assessment of the problem. I disagree with his solution.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:52:15

:foil: time... I think the GOP decided to slip him in to add a little colour to the debate... *cough*

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 19:53:34

But, is there a reason being provided? He is not running for President is he?

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:54:13

Quote by starling310: I agree with Ron Paul's assessment of the problem. I disagree with his solution.

Indeed. It is easy for all of us to agree with the problem ALL of thier solutions suck. (except Huckabee... SORRY... but I am very in favour of funding the arts as much as we fund science and math.)

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 19:55:03

OMG I have earbuds in. But, the people around me are so loud with their non-work related chit chat, that I literally can't hear the debate.

F*CKIN' FRANK!

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:56:07

Quote by starling310: But, is there a reason being provided? He is not running for President is he?

Oh he joined the race I think back in August or September.

....

But Why he is there I do not know.

Comment by

velveeta jones on 12/12/2007 19:56:14

Quote by Raine: Well Alan Keyes Just decided to Hijack a question that wasn't his own... and now he is bloviating on bringing God in tohe schools... This is really crazy stuff.

Ron must be thrilled that Alan is at the debate. It makes him seem soooo less nutty!

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 19:56:57

Quote by Raine:
Quote by starling310: I agree with Ron Paul's assessment of the problem. I disagree with his solution.

Indeed. It is easy for all of us to agree with the problem ALL of thier solutions suck. (except Huckabee... SORRY... but I am very in favour of funding the arts as much as we fund science and math.)

I totally agree about funding the arts. Without art and music in school I would never have learned to play the flute, draw, paint, sing(even badly), read music, sculpt and so much more.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 19:57:29

She said first year dumb ass!

Not 2nd or 3rd. Listen to the friggin' question.

". . .blah, blah, blah....Islamic Terrorists. . . ."

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 19:57:37

Rudy mentioned the Manhatten Project... that is the second time I heard that in this debate.

The one thing I must say is that It is about damned time these guys were forced into answering questions about domestic issues. (and they are damn scary answers)

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 19:58:55

hello. my name is hector. I am coming to your country. And, with me I am bringing 27 cents, my pet frog, and this bucket.

by the way, nice fence.

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 19:59:16

Why do I know the name Manhatten Project and think it's a Matthew Broddreick movie?

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 20:00:02

Oh that is nice, Fred will go over Congress' head... Don't dictators do that?

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 20:00:49

This question is irrelevant... None of them would ever be president.

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 20:01:41

Gee, I wonder why were do divided?

dumbass

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 20:01:52

WHA??? Huckabee wants the USA to become UPUSA?

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 20:03:13

OH! Alan keyes mentioned the Womb... Duuuuuude... you don't know my womb.

And my womb will NEVER know you.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 20:03:23

Oh no! What if he wins?

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 20:03:45

Hey Dumbass! You can't sign things into law without permission from the congress and the people!

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 20:04:16

These guys are Crazy. All of them.

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 20:04:28

Quote by starling310: But, is there a reason being provided? He is not running for President is he?

He did throw his hat in the ring, just like in 2000.

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 20:04:28

Quote by Raine: OH! Alan keyes mentioned the Womb... Duuuuuude... you don't know my womb.

And my womb will NEVER know you.

:spit:

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 20:05:53

Quote by starling310: Oh no! What if he wins?

If Keyes wins he would have to declare my womb as an insurgent and rendition me.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 20:06:00

Okay. I've never watched Alan Keys. He's a big flamer!

Gay Gay Gay!

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 20:06:49

9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11

*headdesk* *headdesk* *headdeask*

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 20:09:30

Rudy said that he had an open and transparent governemtn? OOH... he is Saying that we all knew what he did with Judy was ALL WELL KNOWN!!!

OMG. What a liar.

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 20:09:32

Time to dredge off to the salt mine.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 20:10:43

: alan keys : "I think the important this it to be authentic to who you are!"

Maybe Randi should vote for him.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 20:11:01

Quote by starling310: Okay. I've never watched Alan Keys. He's a big flamer!

Gay Gay Gay!

OMG! you are right!

And Mitt just said he was always Pro Life... :huh:

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 20:12:04

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO... Rudy did NOT reduce Abortions in NYC.

HE didn't ever have that ability to do so.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 20:12:46

"Well, I guess I'd probably go to Denny's and think about it for a while.."

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 20:13:26

later Liv!

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 20:17:01

Did Romney just say "Republican Stool?"

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 20:17:02

Quote by starling310: : alan keys : "I think the important this it to be authentic to who you are!"

Maybe Randi should vote for him.

Authentic from the Womb to the tomb baby!

:P

Oh Mitt... HE is spewing conservatizm...

The question is fiscal or social conservatve... Moderator won't get an answer out of this bunch.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 20:18:02

WHAOH!

Bane capitol is behind the Chinese buying and american defense company???

Comment by

TriSec on 12/12/2007 20:19:57

YOUNT!

Comment by

velveeta jones on 12/12/2007 20:20:07

I keep walking by the teevee with the debate on, not really paying attention, but everytime I go by, Mitt is saying "Ronald Reagan". WTF? Is Ronny running again? He wasn't very animated when he was alive anyway, so............

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 20:23:46

:puke: Mitt... Fred

he wants to better a better husbad and father...??? What does that have to do with a presidential candidate referendum?

Comment by

BobR on 12/12/2007 20:23:51

Quote by velveeta jones: I keep walking by the teevee with the debate on, not really paying attention, but everytime I go by, Mitt is saying "Ronald Reagan". WTF? Is Ronny running again? He wasn't very animated when he was alive anyway, so............

If Zombie Reagan was running for office, he'd beat anyone of these bozos...

Comment by

starling310 on 12/12/2007 20:24:18

Umm...do they not know how to answer a question?

"Fred is a bright student, but he doesn't follow directions well. "

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 20:25:57

Enmies domestic - why does that worry me?

Buy American - sure, I'll see if I can find that 1 item amongst the 10million foreign made.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 20:26:03

Wow. The debate is over... The best line was "we should kill snakes instead of treating snake bites."

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 20:28:11

Quote by wickedpam: Enmies domestic - why does that worry me?

Buy American - sure, I'll see if I can find that 1 item amongst the 10million foreign made.

That comment from Ron Paul was indeed a little creepy.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 20:30:23

Best debate I have seen. Wonderful format... old Skool! The League of Women's Voters would be proud.

The candidates however... what a

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 20:30:56

Quote by Raine: Wow. The debate is over... The best line was "we should kill snakes instead of treating snake bites."

Don't we need St. Patrick for that?

Comment by

TriSec on 12/12/2007 20:33:00

Quote by Raine:
Quote by starling310: Okay. I've never watched Alan Keys. He's a big flamer!

Gay Gay Gay!

OMG! you are right!

And Mitt just said he was always Pro Life... :huh:

At the Massachusetts GOP convention in April 2002 Romney said. "Accordingly, I respect and will fully protect a woman's right to choose. Romney repeated his pro-abortion views later that year in the October 2002 gubernatorial debates.

The timing of Romney�s change of heart is certainly suspicious and I wonder, as do many others, if Romney used the pro-abortion vote to win the 2002 governorship and now wants pro-life support in his bid for the Republican nomination for the president.

From

Prolife Blogs, visit at your own risk.

Comment by

TriSec on 12/12/2007 20:33:45

The point being, of course, that anything Romney says can be quickly and easily debunked.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 20:34:07

Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine: Wow. The debate is over... The best line was "we should kill snakes instead of treating snake bites."

Don't we need St. Patrick for that?

Good point! St. Patrick was a Catholic wasn't he? Do the have a St. Patrick in the Baptist Church? ;)

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 20:36:26

Quote by starling310: Did Romney just say "Republican Stool?"

Oh I missed that? :kickcan:

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 20:38:51

Quote by Raine:

Mitt LOVES NCLB. Said he had NCLB before the president! (tri... can you confirm or deny?)

TRI???

Comment by

velveeta jones on 12/12/2007 20:46:16

FAUX News recap: The moderator was a total bitch!

Me to Brit Hume:

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 20:46:28

Doing a little perusing bout the blog world... A good question was brought up... When Fred said that if elected he would " tell the truth and restore credibility" Does that mean that he thinks Dubya doesn't tell the truth and has no credibility?

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 20:48:58

Quote by velveeta jones: FAUX News recap: The moderator was a total bitch!

Me to Brit Hume:

Typical response. Would they have said that is it were a man?

(psst: note to Faux News: This was a STATE debate!!!)

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 20:50:24

You reminded me Ms. Jones! Momma is supposed to be on Faux at 4 (neil cavuto show)

Comment by

TriSec on 12/12/2007 20:53:38

Famed Sox alumni to campaign for Richardson

Ah, El Tiante...a fave-rave of the young TriSec. I'm glad he's decided to join me in endorsing Bill Richardson!

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 20:54:21

Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine: Wow. The debate is over... The best line was "we should kill snakes instead of treating snake bites."

Don't we need St. Patrick for that?

Good point! St. Patrick was a Catholic wasn't he? Do the have a St. Patrick in the Baptist Church? ;)

No saints in the protestant chuch hun.

Comment by

TriSec on 12/12/2007 20:57:41

Romney on education:

Q: You have been criticized for changing your position on some issues. You say that it's a part of learning from experience. Can you point to an area in which your learning from experience led you to change to a position that is less popular with the Republican base?

A: Sure, quite a few, actually. One is No Child Left Behind. I've taken a position where, once upon a time, I said I wanted to eliminate the Department of Education. That was my position when I ran for Senate in 1994. That's very popular with the base. As I've been a governor and seen the impact that the federal government can have holding down the interest of the teachers' unions and instead putting the interests of the kids and the parents and the teachers first, I see that the Department of Education can actually make a difference. So I supported No Child Left Behind. I still do. I know there are a lot in my party that don't like it, but I like testing in our schools. I think it allows us to get better schools

Source: 2007 Republican Debate in South Carolina May 15, 2007

Comment by

TriSec on 12/12/2007 20:59:00

Ah, and Romney's education failure from the Tufts University newsletter, circa 2004.

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/12/2007 20:59:20

Quote by starling310: Okay. I've never watched Alan Keys. He's a big flamer!

Gay Gay Gay!

That would explain a lot about the wee hate filled man.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 21:00:05

WTF?????

ABA Names Gonzo Attorney of the year...

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 21:01:31

Jeepers Faux NEws didn't know that Alan Keyes was running for President, and now Neil Cavuto is slamming the moderator too.

the things I do to see Momma.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 21:04:35

Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine: Wow. The debate is over... The best line was "we should kill snakes instead of treating snake bites."

Don't we need St. Patrick for that?

Good point! St. Patrick was a Catholic wasn't he? Do the have a St. Patrick in the Baptist Church? ;)

No saints in the protestant church hun.

I didn't think so!

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/12/2007 21:10:02

i didn't listen to the debate, but let me see if I can sum up.

education good

taxes bad, but okay if they hollow out the middle class

privatize everything

markets are magic

Blah blah blah

Alan Keyes is still batshit crazy and probably gay

Huckabee thinks we need to kill snakes and not treat snake bites.

Comment by

wickedpam on 12/12/2007 21:11:13

Breaking news from TMZ - Ike Turner has died.

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/12/2007 21:11:48

Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine: Wow. The debate is over... The best line was "we should kill snakes instead of treating snake bites."

Don't we need St. Patrick for that?

Good point! St. Patrick was a Catholic wasn't he? Do the have a St. Patrick in the Baptist Church? ;)

No saints in the protestant church hun.

I didn't think so!

What about if you are in the church of Elvis? He is saint, he loved his momma!

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 21:12:17

Guh... brit hume on Neil now. They are saying that this was a wierd dabate? I say it was a true, classical debate...

They are whining that the Moderator didn' let people mix it up... poor little crybabies.

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/12/2007 21:13:24

Quote by wickedpam: Breaking news from TMZ - Ike Turner has died.

well dang. gee a pioneer in rock and r&b dead and I could care less. Wife beating POS

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 21:14:52

Quote by wickedpam: Breaking news from TMZ - Ike Turner has died.

Wow...

Any word from Tina?

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/12/2007 21:16:10

Quote by Raine: WTF?????

ABA Names Gonzo Attorney of the year...

Read the third 'graph. It isn't a good thing...

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 21:16:33

Quote by Mondobubba: i didn't listen to the debate, but let me see if I can sum up.

education good

taxes bad, but okay if they hollow out the middle class

privatize everything

markets are magic

Blah blah blah

Alan Keyes is still batshit crazy and probably gay

Huckabee thinks we need to kill snakes and not treat snake bites.

We did our job!

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 21:17:39

How are yu feeling mondo?

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/12/2007 21:18:25

Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba: i didn't listen to the debate, but let me see if I can sum up.

education good

taxes bad, but okay if they hollow out the middle class

privatize everything

markets are magic

Blah blah blah

Alan Keyes is still batshit crazy and probably gay

Huckabee thinks we need to kill snakes and not treat snake bites.
We did our job!

Indeed. Participation ribbons all around!

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 21:20:01

The bill clinton Section of the Neil show... coming up... I think this is where momma comes in...

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/12/2007 21:20:53

Quote by Raine: How are yu feeling mondo?

Hungry. I want decent steak and cheese sub. I want one from Jerry's

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 21:23:04

Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine: WTF?????

ABA Names Gonzo Attorney of the year...

Read the third 'graph. It isn't a good thing...

I know. I was trying to be dramtical and all... I think it is pretty sad that Mukasey is a nominee already for next year... The ABA Prophets seeors! They are Mormon like!

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/12/2007 21:23:30

BTW with out the lettuce, mayo or tomato. They don't belong on cheese steak or an analog.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 21:24:08

Momma!

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/12/2007 21:24:52

Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine: WTF?????

ABA Names Gonzo Attorney of the year...

Read the third 'graph. It isn't a good thing...
I know. I was trying to be dramtical and all... I think it is pretty sad that Mukasey is a nominee already for next year... The ABA Prophets seeors! They are Mormon like!

nostradamus n shit!

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 21:25:45

LOL! she got a little spanking from Neil! and THEN he agreed with her!

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/12/2007 21:26:55

who is that right wing hussy with the shampoo ad hair??

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 21:27:10

Momma got the Obama drop in!

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/12/2007 21:28:15

If she can't handle Tim Russert, how is she going to handle Osama Bin Laudin? WTF!

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 21:31:27

Quote by Mondobubba: who is that right will hussy with the shampoo ad hair??

I have no idea, but those bad talking points made so little sense it was almost embarrassing for Momma to have to debate.

I am so glad I could turn this crap off.

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/12/2007 21:33:11

This long time game show host has had a heart attack.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 21:34:27

Quote by Mondobubba: If she can't handle Tim Russert, how is she going to handle Osama Bin Laudin? WTF!

I know! What the hell was that? It was the worst of the worst red herrings.

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/12/2007 21:34:29

Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba: who is that right will hussy with the shampoo ad hair??

I have no idea, but those bad talking points made so little sense it was almost embarrassing for Momma to have to debate.

I am so glad I could turn this crap off.

Nice hair though :)

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 21:37:36

Quote by Mondobubba: This long time game show host has had a heart attack.

Who is Alex Trebeck! (what do I win?)

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/12/2007 21:38:51

Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba: If she can't handle Tim Russert, how is she going to handle Osama Bin Laudin? WTF!

I know! What the hell was that? It was the worst of the worst red herrings.

Sums it up nicely

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/12/2007 21:40:03

Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba: This long time game show host has had a heart attack.

Who is Alex Trebeck! (what do I win?)

Control of the board!

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 21:44:05

Quote by BobR:
Quote by velveeta jones: I keep walking by the teevee with the debate on, not really paying attention, but everytime I go by, Mitt is saying "Ronald Reagan". WTF? Is Ronny running again? He wasn't very animated when he was alive anyway, so............

If Zombie Reagan was running for office, he'd beat anyone of these bozos...

Mmmm....brains.

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 21:49:04

Alan Keyes is the model of Christian family unconditional love. Remember when he disowned his daughter when she came out as a lesbian?

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 22:01:56

Boehner: "Fundraising Sucks"

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 22:05:48

Quote by livingonli: Alan Keyes is the model of Christian family unconditional love. Remember when he disowned his daughter when she came out as a lesbian?

That's Right! I forgot about that!

(more proof that he is a closet case -- A self hating Homo... Wonder what he does in men's bathrooms...

)

Comment by

livingonli on 12/12/2007 22:23:43

Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli: Alan Keyes is the model of Christian family unconditional love. Remember when he disowned his daughter when she came out as a lesbian?
That's Right! I forgot about that!

(more proof that he is a closet case -- A self hating Homo... Wonder what he does in men's bathrooms... )

Tap, tap, tap! In the stall if you want me.

I hope the answer isn't noe.

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 22:42:44

I posted about this story Jose Rodriguez... NO ONE has commented on it... I am a few days ahead of Randi...

Comment by

BobR on 12/12/2007 23:25:56

Quote by Raine: I posted about this story Jose Rodriguez... NO ONE has commented on it... I am a few days ahead of Randi...

Then YOU get THIS:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/raine1967/ribbon-1.jpg

:rofl:

Comment by

Raine on 12/12/2007 23:41:33

Quote by BobR:
Quote by Raine: I posted about this story Jose Rodriguez... NO ONE has commented on it... I am a few days ahead of Randi...

Then YOU get THIS:

:rofl:

I have never been the recipient of one. I am so touched.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/13/2007 00:17:24

My kitty has "Restrictive Cardiomyopathy" folks. The vet is hopeful that we found it early enough to slow down the progress. But, there is no cure and she cannot give me much of a prognosis until we see how he responds to meds.

http://lh3.google.com/terrimd0718/Rs9oXREGWQI/AAAAAAAAAZo/rA302Sz9S6E/P1010038.JPG?imgmax=512

Comment by

Raine on 12/13/2007 00:30:37

Quote by starling310:

My kitty has "Restrictive Cardiomyopathy" folks. The vet is hopeful that we found it early enough to slow down the progress. But, there is no cure and she cannot give me much of a prognosis until we see how he responds to meds.

:cry: Starling!!! Look, we will know more after he starts his meds...

:hug:

Comment by

Raine on 12/13/2007 00:31:35

This is Farley, right? How old is Farley?

Comment by

starling310 on 12/13/2007 00:33:52

Yeah, farley. He is 6.

Did my pic slow the blog down? We can remove it.

Yeah, I am going to start with the meds and hope for the best.

Comment by

Raine on 12/13/2007 01:14:05

Quote by starling310: Yeah, farley. He is 6.

Did my pic slow the blog down? We can remove it.

Yeah, I am going to start with the meds and hope for the best.

No, don't remove it. I don't think it it did.

I did a littel reading on this and if the meds work out, he will be fine for a good long time...

Comment by

Raine on 12/13/2007 01:15:30

ok, we are just about ready to eat some chicken Picatta for dinner with homeade white white wine... Then to the couch to watch Keith.. see you all in a bit (upon reaching the couch I shall be laptop bound.)

Comment by

Raine on 12/13/2007 01:41:24

ok, catching up to KO.

Comment by

Raine on 12/13/2007 01:51:04

GAH! Waterboarding is like doing the breast stroke!

Comment by

TriSec on 12/13/2007 01:52:58

Evening, folks.

I've got my Wednesday tipple and am awaiting the mythbusters...

:martini:

Comment by

starling310 on 12/13/2007 01:59:56

I don't remember almost dying when I did the breast stroke.

Are the torture victims given swimmies?

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/13/2007 02:23:58

Tri, plane myths! Are you rigid with excitment??

Comment by

livingonli on 12/13/2007 02:25:16

Healing vibes for Farley.

Wish him the best.

Been a little busy in the salt mine. A few equipment issues.. Kncks have started trailing again. Will let you know when the crowd starts shouting "Fire Isiah".

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/13/2007 02:26:52

I'm flipping 'tween the 'Busters and the Cream reunion concert on Great Performances, which it ain't. A bunch of old guys phoning it in. Christ Clapton is BORING! There I said it. Let the hate begin!

Comment by

starling310 on 12/13/2007 02:33:59

HA! HA! HA! Mondo....you're a sketch!

Thanks Liv! I hope he'll have a happy life; however long he has.

There's another missing Peterson woman, and her name is Stacy. sheesh.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/13/2007 02:35:44

Quote by Mondobubba: rigid with excitment??

Ew.

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/13/2007 02:38:43

:rofl:

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/13/2007 02:41:08

Quote by starling310: HA! HA! HA! Mondo....you're a sketch!

Thanks Liv! I hope he'll have a happy life; however long he has.

There's another missing Peterson woman, and her name is Stacy. sheesh.

I am? Cool!

said I was a sketch! :swoon!:

Comment by

starling310 on 12/13/2007 02:45:59

Quote by Mondobubba: :rofl:

: files under 'what were they thinking?' :

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/13/2007 02:49:12

Quote by starling310:
Quote by Mondobubba: :rofl:

: files under 'what were they thinking?' :

Yeah! Did you peruse the ink?

Comment by

starling310 on 12/13/2007 02:50:30

Quote by Mondobubba:

I am? Cool! said I was a sketch! :swoon!:

Mondo:

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:yP48cjZrPQ7-6M:http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/thisweekineducation/upload/2007/07/happy_47th_anniversary_etch-a-/etch_a_sketch.jpg

Comment by

TriSec on 12/13/2007 02:52:59

Quote by Mondobubba: :rofl:

Oh, dear...

:mama Miller:

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/13/2007 02:54:00

Quote by starling310:
Quote by Mondobubba:

I am? Cool! said I was a sketch! :swoon!:

Mondo:

Very clever young Starling!

Watching "Tombstone" here at the Casa de Mondo

Comment by

Mondobubba on 12/13/2007 02:56:00

Quote by TriSec:
Quote by Mondobubba: :rofl:

Oh, dear...

:mama Miller:

Awful, ain't it Tri?

So Tri, can you land a plan better than Adam or Jamie.

Comment by

starling310 on 12/13/2007 03:11:21

Goodnight blog.

Comment by

livingonli on 12/13/2007 03:12:50

And the Knicks blow another one. That Isiah is doing a great job.

Comment by

livingonli on 12/13/2007 03:14:22

Goodnight,

Comment by

livingonli on 12/13/2007 03:32:53

Keith Olbermann will be on Bill Moyers this Friday.

Comment by

TriSec on 12/13/2007 12:16:04

Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by TriSec:
Quote by Mondobubba: :rofl:

Oh, dear...

:mama Miller:

Awful, ain't it Tri?

So Tri, can you land a plan better than Adam or Jamie.

Ummm..yes?

But I've got about 500 hours in the simulator, mostly flying the big iron.

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