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An evening in Charm City
Author: Raine    Date: 02/01/2010 13:42:27

I think this sums up what happened in Baltimore best:
"On Friday President Obama appeared before House Republicans in a historic televised Q & A and performed so well, afterwards GOP Aids said that allowing cameras to roll like that was a mistake. Come on Republicans, are you on such a Scott Brown high you thought you could take down Barack Obama by debating him? You realize debates are why he is President, right? Seriously, all you do is complain how Obama is all talk and then you invite him to a forum that is literally all talk. That's like saying lets see how tough Aquaman is once we get him in the water. I'm not saying you were out classed but the whole thing was like the scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark when the guy charged at Indiana Jones with the sword and he just shot him." Seth Myers, Saturday Night Live Weekend Update

I will be forever grateful to the Republicans for allowing this to be televised, and have little hope that anything like this will ever happen again. This was the man I voted for: Eloquent, well-versed and - even more importantly - knowledgeable on every issue he was asked about. What the Republicans do after this is anyone's guess. The beauty of what happened last week was that they really thought they could pigeon-hole this man. Call it hubris, arrogance -- call it whatever you want, they came out with egg on their face. I just don't think they realize it yet.

Today the President is unveiling his fiscal Budget for 2011. Let's see if they got the message that obstructing everything is hurting our country. Time will tell. There comes a point that when one believes their own hype, as it seems the Republicans have, you become a mockery of what you once were. I'm sorry if this offends my Republican friends, but when the American Conservative calls out Republicans, you have to know there is a problem:
Yesterday I said that the GOP remains just as intellectually bankrupt and unimaginative as ever, but I need to amend that in light of Pence’s comments. If possible, the GOP has somehow managed to become even worse than it was in previous years. How else can you explain the desperate bid to reframe tax credits for small business as a job-killing measure? It is tax credits similar to these that the Republicans normally advocate as a matter of course, and it was this sort of thing that Republicans were demanding more of last year during the debate over the stimulus bill. Instead of recognizing this and trying to claim that the administration has adopted one of his party’s solutions, Pence is reduced to the absurdity of claiming that possible tax reduction on businesses that hire new employees is some revival of the dreaded Carter years.
[....]

Let’s remember that Pence is not some minor member of the minority. He is the House Republican conference chair, the third highest-ranking Republican in that chamber, and he recently decided not to pursue a Senate bid against Evan Bayh in order to re-build a Republican majority in the House. If this is what he has to offer in his current role, perhaps it would have been better for the GOP if he had tried his luck back home in Indiana.
And herein lies the problem: they have been so busy obstructing everything the President does for political gains, they don't realize they are actually coming out AGAINST things that normally are either non-partisan or are part of the Republican platform. People need to start being honest about their motives here. You cannot be against everything all the time, expect things to get done, and then when it doesn't happen, blame the other guy who was trying to get things done.

Oh, and by they way? There was no TelePrompTer in the room on Friday. So we people finally let that meme go? Please?

and
Raine

 

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Comment by wickedpam on 02/01/2010 13:53:25
Morning



Comment by BobR on 02/01/2010 14:23:04
This pretty much sums up the current situation with the Republicans - it doesn't matter if they're for it... once Obama promotes it, they're against it.

Comment by Scoopster on 02/01/2010 14:26:27
Morning all & Happy Mondee!



That little celebrity roast the Republicans threw was wonderful, wasn't it? Too bad the target of the roast was.. themselves! Unfortunately Rip Torn was unable to attend because he was otherwise detained..

Comment by Raine on 02/01/2010 14:33:49
WTF hell was Rip torn thinking? What a fool...

Comment by Scoopster on 02/01/2010 14:39:26
Quote by BobR:

This pretty much sums up the current situation with the Republicans - it doesn't matter if they're for it... once Obama promotes it, they're against it.




Comment by wickedpam on 02/01/2010 14:40:01
Dang, I'm sorry I missed the smack down

Comment by Raine on 02/01/2010 14:43:36
Quote by wickedpam:

Dang, I'm sorry I missed the smack down


here you go, when you have a chance, Mala. It was SOOO good. C-span re-showed it and EVEN MSNBC interrupted the Doc block to re air it this weekend.

Comment by Raine on 02/01/2010 14:45:05
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by BobR:

This pretty much sums up the current situation with the Republicans - it doesn't matter if they're for it... once Obama promotes it, they're against it.


that's perfect!



Comment by Raine on 02/01/2010 14:48:18
Rush danced? Blech!

Comment by Raine on 02/01/2010 14:53:32
Comment by Raine on 02/01/2010 14:58:21
The biggest problem is that the media is not reporting honestly on many of Obama proposals.

Comment by wickedpam on 02/01/2010 14:59:34
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

Dang, I'm sorry I missed the smack down


here you go, when you have a chance, Mala. It was SOOO good. C-span re-showed it and EVEN MSNBC interrupted the Doc block to re air it this weekend.






I'll watch when I Steph's off - sounds like it was quite the show

Comment by BobR on 02/01/2010 15:35:51
sorry I haven't been more chatty today - I'm feeling kinda crappy...

Comment by wickedpam on 02/01/2010 15:37:18
those that have taken any journalism classes would know that you are taught initially to write in a nonbiased manner, anything other then the facts is not true reporting its op-ed or commentary

Comment by Raine on 02/01/2010 15:38:01
that sound is so very strange!

Comment by Raine on 02/01/2010 15:39:34
Quote by wickedpam:

those that have taken any journalism classes would know that you are taught initially to write in a nonbiased manner, anything other then the facts is not true reporting its op-ed or commentary
nI have no idea what the point is he is trying to make.



Candy Crowley is a reporter. she is middle And I think she will be fine on the new show. I did NOT like John King at all.



Comment by wickedpam on 02/01/2010 15:45:16
Awesome Joanne Worelly!

Comment by wickedpam on 02/01/2010 15:47:23
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

those that have taken any journalism classes would know that you are taught initially to write in a nonbiased manner, anything other then the facts is not true reporting its op-ed or commentary
nI have no idea what the point is he is trying to make.



Candy Crowley is a reporter. she is middle And I think she will be fine on the new show. I did NOT like John King at all.







To be honest I only recognize JOhn King as he of one of the square head people, when I can I watch Sunday Morning on Sunday, that's if I can wretch the TV off lifetime

Comment by Raine on 02/01/2010 16:27:17
John boener is an asshole.



he just tweeted:
Another budget that spends too much, taxes too much, & borrows too much. RT @WSJEconomy: US Deficit to Hit All-Time High http://is.gd/7tOCj




To which I responded: You read the bill already?!

Comment by wickedpam on 02/01/2010 16:28:21
blah, blah, blah...

Comment by wickedpam on 02/01/2010 16:29:29
if your making 250K I think you can handle paying your fair share of the taxes.

Comment by Raine on 02/01/2010 16:30:14




What the heck was that caller all aboot?



The bush tax cuts are going to expire!

Comment by Raine on 02/01/2010 16:33:29
Quote by wickedpam:

if your making 250K I think you can handle paying your fair share of the taxes.


Here is the deal, you can't be for the Bush tax cuts for people earning more than 250k a year AND be for bringing down the deficit.



MAth is hard for me, but this is basic stuff. You just cannot have it both ways.

Comment by wickedpam on 02/01/2010 16:35:17
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

if your making 250K I think you can handle paying your fair share of the taxes.


Here is the deal, you can't be for the Bush tax cuts for people earning more than 250k a year AND be for bringing down the deficit.



MAth is hard for me, but this is basic stuff. You just cannot have it both ways.






its just plain greed - and "I have mine who cares about you" attitude

Comment by wickedpam on 02/01/2010 16:35:40
MGM reffing the Velamints

Comment by BobR on 02/01/2010 16:49:22
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

if your making 250K I think you can handle paying your fair share of the taxes.


Here is the deal, you can't be for the Bush tax cuts for people earning more than 250k a year AND be for bringing down the deficit.



MAth is hard for me, but this is basic stuff. You just cannot have it both ways.


It's Trickle Down theory: Let the rich keep more of their money, so they will invest in jobs for the Little People, who will work and pay income taxes which will then balance the budget.



It's so simple, and it worked so well last time, right?... right?...



OR - you could just take the tax money from the rich directly and balance the budget that way.



Comment by Raine on 02/01/2010 16:51:02
Prince Bumper!

Comment by Raine on 02/01/2010 16:52:25
That is the problem -- everyone keeps thinking trickle down will work -- and it just doesn't. Without regulation it never will work.

Comment by Raine on 02/01/2010 16:53:32
and with regulation-- it isn't EVER going to be trickle down economics. The basis of it is no regulation.

Comment by wickedpam on 02/01/2010 16:54:44
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

if your making 250K I think you can handle paying your fair share of the taxes.


Here is the deal, you can't be for the Bush tax cuts for people earning more than 250k a year AND be for bringing down the deficit.



MAth is hard for me, but this is basic stuff. You just cannot have it both ways.


It's Trickle Down theory: Let the rich keep more of their money, so they will invest in jobs for the Little People, who will work and pay income taxes which will then balance the budget.



It's so simple, and it worked so well last time, right?... right?...



OR - you could just take the tax money from the rich directly and balance the budget that way.







it only works it people are altruistic in viewing business as creating a worthwhile product or service AND employing and taking care of the people they employ

Comment by livingonli on 02/01/2010 17:26:40
A belated good day to everyone. Busy weekend caused me to crash this morning. While the arm still hurts, I am finally able to sleep again.



As for trickle down, to me it really means don't piss on my back and tell me it's raining because that's the only thing that trickles down, we really need to undo the economic myths that Reagan created.

Comment by BobR on 02/01/2010 17:29:08
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

if your making 250K I think you can handle paying your fair share of the taxes.


Here is the deal, you can't be for the Bush tax cuts for people earning more than 250k a year AND be for bringing down the deficit.



MAth is hard for me, but this is basic stuff. You just cannot have it both ways.


It's Trickle Down theory: Let the rich keep more of their money, so they will invest in jobs for the Little People, who will work and pay income taxes which will then balance the budget.



It's so simple, and it worked so well last time, right?... right?...



OR - you could just take the tax money from the rich directly and balance the budget that way.







it only works it people are altruistic in viewing business as creating a worthwhile product or service AND employing and taking care of the people they employ


It doesn't work because jobs are like any other product: the subscribe to the laws of supply and demand. If a business needs work done to earn money, they WILL hire someone. They're not just going to create a position they don't need because they have extra money.



Comment by TriSec on 02/01/2010 17:34:07
Howdy folks!



I missed the President's Question Time live, but I just finished the podcasts....



Oh, if only they would have this regularly. I don't know much about British politics, but I often watch the PM's question time; it's quite revealing.



I concur with Raine's statements below; this is why I elected the guy. If he'd do more of this sort of thing every week, we'd have healthcare reform already



Comment by wickedpam on 02/01/2010 17:38:23
THink I was looking as it as working in a Hallmark movie sense of it. Like Toymaking company hires towns people, all jobs are good and secure. Toymaking owners make healthy profit, and invest in the company and take care of workers and can hire more workers cause if demand of toys.



Doesn't really exist except in a Hallmark sense

Comment by BobR on 02/01/2010 18:47:08
Good lord!! Someone take this poor woman to Outback Steakhouse and buy her a sirloin!

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/01/2010 18:49:33
Quote by BobR:

Good lord!! Someone take this poor woman to Outback Steakhouse and buy her a sirloin!




A steady diet of cheeseburgers for a couple of weeks will fix that.

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/01/2010 18:53:56
Quote by Raine:

WTF hell was Rip torn thinking? What a fool...




Um, Raine, Rip Torn wasn't thinking or at least not clearly. Or perhaps Mr Johnny Walker was doing the thinking for him.

Comment by BobR on 02/01/2010 22:58:27


They were there to see why the phone lines weren't working??

Comment by trojanrabbit on 02/01/2010 23:47:27
Obviously sent for the wrong phone repairman (interesting subtitles)





Comment by Mondobubba on 02/02/2010 00:25:49




ACORN liberal advocacy group? Ben you are douche, you know that? It is an advocacy group for poor people.

Comment by TriSec on 02/02/2010 00:27:14
Evening, folks!



Some Beanpot action going on at the Gahhhhhhhden.



BC up 6-0 over the Barnies in the opener...





Comment by trojanrabbit on 02/02/2010 00:43:30
Comment by Mondobubba on 02/02/2010 01:30:53
Oh Ben Stein is coming to Jacksonville on April 6th who wants to come and heckle with me? Anybody?

Comment by TriSec on 02/02/2010 02:17:55
First Intermission in the nightcap...no score.



Gotta go with NU on this one!





Comment by livingonli on 02/02/2010 02:32:01
Quote by Mondobubba:

Oh Ben Stein is coming to Jacksonville on April 6th who wants to come and heckle with me? Anybody?


Just remind the creowd of those crappy freescore.com ads he appears in.

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