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The Elephant in the Room
Author: BobR    Date: 02/03/2010 13:40:05

When I was young, it was pretty clear what the two major parties stood for. The Democrats stood for change, and the Republicans stood for the status quo. The Republicans were also supposed to be the party of fiscal discipline. That latter aspect was tossed out the window when Reagan took office and drove up deficits through accelerated military spending. When Bush took office in 2000, he (and congressional Republicans) trashed the rest of their legacy with actions both regressive and radical, trampling on Constitutional rights. What does the party stand for these days? It's impossible to tell - it seems they are only against things.

They are against anything the Democrats support, and against President Obama in particular. Nearly every legislative initiative put forth by the Democrats has been voted against en masse by the Republicans, even those that were originally Republican ideals, and supported strongly by them:

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A poll released on Sunday shows that voters who identify themselves as Republicans have some pretty crazy ideas:

  • Should Barack Obama be impeached, or not? 39% said yes. For what?, I have to ask...

  • Do you believe Barack Obama was born in the United States, or not? 36% said no, with another 22% unsure.

  • Do you believe Barack Obama wants the terrorists to win? 24% said yes, with another 33% unsure.

  • Do you believe Sarah Palin is more qualified to be President than Barack Obama? only 14% said no.

But that's just the voters that believe these crazy things, right?... No, even the elected officials - besides condemning legislation that supports their goals just because the Dems are writing it - believe some of the craziness. The Lt. Governor of TN isn't sure if President Obama is a U.S. citizen. He's running to be the governor of one of the 50 states and he's a "birther"??

A House Rep - Jeb Hensarling (R-TX) - has a great idea to help balance the budget: Cut Social Security benefits for those under 55 years old. That should go over well with the electorate.

Finally, we address the issue of the trials for terrorism suspects. When Bush did it, they crowed about what a success it was. Yet now that it's President Obama doing the same thing, suddenly it's the worst idea ever. In fact, they are trying to force the issue via legislation. Would they be doing this if it was a Republican president? Of course not.

I can't believe the voters are happy with this sort of "I'm against it" nay-saying to whatever the Democrats are supporting, to the point where their coming out against their own policies. We'll see later this year whether they are rewarded or punished at the polls for their bizarre behavior.

 

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Comment by wickedpam on 02/03/2010 13:49:13
MOrning







Comment by BobR on 02/03/2010 14:20:03
still feeling sick this morning. It's been 5 days of snot, hacking, and feeling like crap.





Comment by Will in Chicago on 02/03/2010 14:30:25
Good morning, bloggers! Excellent post, BobR!



The poll gets even stranger as you delve into it.



63 percent of Republican respondents believe that Obama is a socialist. 21 percent of them believe that ACORN stole the 2008 election. 31 percent believe that Obama is a racist who hates White people. Additionally, 23 percent of them think that their state should secede from the Union, 77 percent want the Book of Genesis taught in schools as the origin of the Earth, and 67 percent believe that the only way to Heaven is through Jesus Christ.



Hmm, maybe I should brush up on my Hebrew and see if I can get a good position in Tel Aviv?

Comment by Raine on 02/03/2010 14:39:36
Good morning!



It's far too simple to just call them the party of no anymore. I believe that have been so manipulated that they really don't know what to stand for anymore.





Comment by Raine on 02/03/2010 14:40:18
It's getting a little like the lord of the flies, only I really don't see someone in a white coat coming anytime soon.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 02/03/2010 14:43:23
Quote by Raine:

It's getting a little like the lord of the flies, only I really don't see someone in a white coat coming anytime soon.






I suppose we don't know anyone working on warp drive? The Alpha Centauri system is supposed to be lovely this time of year.

Comment by Raine on 02/03/2010 14:55:33


Comment by Will in Chicago on 02/03/2010 15:00:11
As someone who lived in Phoenix, I will say that J.D. Heyward has a reputation of being seen as stupid, arrogant, and uninformed.



The fact that McCain is worried about a challenge from him does not bode well for the state. (I am not sure who is running for Senate from the Democratic Party.)

Comment by Raine on 02/03/2010 15:08:45
Momma is back in LA?



not for good I assume...

Comment by Raine on 02/03/2010 15:09:54
Quote by Will in Chicago:

As someone who lived in Phoenix, I will say that J.D. Heyward has a reputation of being seen as stupid, arrogant, and uninformed.



The fact that McCain is worried about a challenge from him does not bode well for the state. (I am not sure who is running for Senate from the Democratic Party.)
Do you think a Dem could win?





And btw, Will what do you think about the results of the primary in your state?



Comment by Raine on 02/03/2010 15:11:26
Obama is now meeting with Senate Democrats --LIVE Q & A

Comment by Scoopster on 02/03/2010 15:23:59
Quote by Raine:

Obama is now meeting with Senate Democrats --LIVE Q & A


I hope he reams those milquetoast jackasses worse than he did the Republicans. Seriously.

Comment by Raine on 02/03/2010 15:35:32
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Raine:

Obama is now meeting with Senate Democrats --LIVE Q & A


I hope he reams those milquetoast jackasses worse than he did the Republicans. Seriously.


You can listen here. He doesn't seem to be having as much fun... But he is making it clear that they have to lead.

Comment by Raine on 02/03/2010 15:37:55
Here are a few things he has said:



Instinct in tough political times is to play it safe. But need to remember why you entered public service



Now's not the time to be cautious and play it safe. "You don't get in it for the fame."



HE called for all earmarks to be put online.



Filibuster only works if there's a spirit of cooperation, not if it's to "shut the place down."

Comment by Raine on 02/03/2010 15:40:05
He just called for them to turn off the TV CNN Fox AND MSNBC and go talk to people out on the street. :nice:

Comment by wickedpam on 02/03/2010 15:43:05
and again I ask, Dude, what do you care?

Comment by Raine on 02/03/2010 15:43:40
Blanche Lincoln up next. Asking a question about where the Dems should be going regarding getting the Economy back on track...



REALLY Blanche? Where the FRUCK have you been?

Comment by Will in Chicago on 02/03/2010 15:53:03
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Will in Chicago:

As someone who lived in Phoenix, I will say that J.D. Heyward has a reputation of being seen as stupid, arrogant, and uninformed.



The fact that McCain is worried about a challenge from him does not bode well for the state. (I am not sure who is running for Senate from the Democratic Party.)
Do you think a Dem could win?





And btw, Will what do you think about the results of the primary in your state?







I think that a good Democratic candidate can win in Arizona, particularly if McCain is seriously wounded by Heyward. If Heyward wins, many in the state may vote for a Democrat.



I am in Northwest Indiana by a few miles, but I will offer an opinion on the Illinois primary. I expected Quinn and Giannoulias to win, and they are favored in the primary. (Hynes has yet to concede to Quinn. Mark Kirk will put up a good challenge in the Senate race as he tries to appear centrist despite a right leaning record.) The surprising results from last night is that a Downstate Senator named Bill Brady with a grassroots campaign may be the GOP candidate for governor. I was unaware that he was running.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 02/03/2010 15:54:32
Here is a profile of the likely Republican nominee for Illinois governor:



http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/elections/chi-brady-profilejan18,0,4311935.story.



He seems pretty conservative. I will have to do more research on him.

Comment by wickedpam on 02/03/2010 16:07:43
Don't knock a Hynudai its a very reliable car

Comment by Raine on 02/03/2010 16:30:35
back to the SMShow. That was kinda interesting. One thing I know is that Obama os smarter than ANYONE in office.



Evan Bayh can go rot in hell.

Comment by livingonli on 02/03/2010 16:32:37
Good morning everyone.



The Republicans have officially embraced insanity as their party platform. Who needs to be normal when you spout those views.

Comment by Scoopster on 02/03/2010 17:20:22
Heh this is good..



http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/a5speedromance/1265148425261.jpg


Comment by livingonli on 02/03/2010 17:23:28
Listening to Pipes on the Thom Hartmann show. It seems like the neo-cons aren't happy unless they can bomb a country with A-rabs in it.

Comment by TriSec on 02/03/2010 17:28:18
Passing through....



Ya know, if the Republican states want to secede, who are we to stand in their way?





Comment by TriSec on 02/03/2010 17:41:00
Comment by Mondobubba on 02/03/2010 17:45:11
Quote by Scoopster:

Heh this is good..



http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/a5speedromance/1265148425261.jpg






: rofl :

Comment by Raine on 02/03/2010 18:51:23
I must thank the powers that be for nasal spray.

Comment by Raine on 02/03/2010 18:54:46


that is SO amazing!





Comment by Raine on 02/03/2010 20:55:54
Randi had a libertarian on... once again NO friggin answers to the problems. Only blame.

Comment by Raine on 02/03/2010 20:56:42
Sorry Tri, I know you have libertarian leanings, but I am so sick of people bitching with no realistic solutions.

Comment by livingonli on 02/03/2010 21:12:27
Even though Tri is Libertarian, I don't think he's really espoused the corporatists/big business can do whatever the hell they want. I heard that caller on Thom Hartmann heading home last night on the XM repeat and I just wanted to smack him. How can he say we are more taxed now than before Reagan (well the rich aren't). It looks like these people really are bad with math as well as big liars.

Comment by livingonli on 02/03/2010 21:13:46
To my DC friends, it looks like the DC-NY rivalry can heat up the next two nights as the Knicks host the Wizards tonight (although they both stink) and tomorrow the Rangers host the Caps (which considering how both teams are doing isn't good for the Rangers).

Comment by BobR on 02/03/2010 21:16:37
Quote by Raine:



that is SO amazing!





good for him!



As one born with a lot of advantages, I feel no one is equal until everyone is equal.

Comment by livingonli on 02/03/2010 21:44:12
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:



that is SO amazing!





good for him!



As one born with a lot of advantages, I feel no one is equal until everyone is equal.


Would CBS have accepted the gay dating ad if he promoted it for his gay friends. I guess if all it took was a football player to get the Anti-Choice spot.