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It's not dead yet.
Author: Raine    Date: 02/18/2010 13:36:41

In the past year, we have had some wonderful highs and awful lows in the health care reform debate. As of late, it has been largely seen as on life support, despite a February 25 bipartisan health care reform summit the President is hosting at the Blair House. The media has largely claimed that reform is dead, Republicans have claimed they'd killed it, and even some Democrats seem to be seceding defeat. Thru all of this, it still has a heartbeat.
With his sweeping healthcare overhaul effort floundering in the face of united Republican opposition and public skepticism, Obama has invited Republican leaders to the meeting on February 25, which will be nationally televised.

He promised to post his own proposal for an overhaul online before the event and asked Republicans to do the same.

"Everybody that's in Washington that works in the executive branch and the legislative branch was sent here as part of representative democracy to solve problems," White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said at Tuesday's daily media briefing. "That's what this is intended to do." Source.

Not only is Health care reform not dead -- the Public Option seems to have a new life breathing in it. And this is where it gets interesting. As of yesterday night, 14 senators have signed on to a Public Option thru reconciliation. They are:

*** This list is from Update lX (see below) ***
Daniel Inouye (HI)
Debbie Stabenow (MI)
Tim Johnson (SD)
Robert Menendez (NJ)
Arlen Specter (PA)
Jeanne Shaheen (NH)
Chuck Schumer (NY)
Frank Lautenberg (NJ)
Barbara Mikulski (MD)
Bernie Sanders (VT)
Al Franken (MN)
Patrick Leahy (VT)
John Kerry (MA)
Sheldon Whitehouse (RI)
Dianne Feinstein (CA)
Roland Burris (IL)
Barbara Boxer (CA)
Jack Reed (RI)
Tom Udall (NM)

The original signatories:
Michael Bennet (CO)
Sherrod Brown (OH)
Kirsten Gillibrand (NY)
Jeff Merkley (OR)


Why now? I am not sure. I suspect it has a lot to do with the summit being publicly televised. I also suspect it has even more to do with stories like this
Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius today will release a new report showing more dramatic health insurance premium increases are proposed in Connecticut, Maine, Michigan, Oregon, Rhode Island and Washington.

Keying off the Obama administration's recent probe into a planned 39 percent rate hike from Anthem Blue Cross in California, Sebelius will detail large increases in six other states and say that given record insurer profits, health care reform has never been more urgent.
That's right, it's just the tip of the iceberg. The longer congress procrastinates, the more companies will try to get away with this outrageous behavior.

One thing that has gotten lost in this whole Health Care reform mess is is the bill is passed as it is these astronomical rate hikes will be disallowed. It's a pale comparison to the bill the House passed last August, but passing what we have with reconcilliation is still better than nothing. Hearing new talk of a Public option is wonderful news, and hopefully it will be corrected in the next week or so. Doing nothing isn't viable anymore. From the report:
Last year, as working families struggled with rising health care costs and a recession, the five largest health insurance companies - WellPoint, UnitedHealth Group, Cigna, Aetna, and Humana - took in combined profits of $12.2 billion, up 56 percent over 2008.

These health insurance companies' profits grew even as nominal GDP decreased by 1 percent over this same time period.

And recent data show that the CEOs of America's five largest insurers were each compensated up to $24 million in 2008.
If Republicans could pass the Bush tax cuts thru reconciliation, the Dems can do this. Maybe it is because of these increases that senators are returning to the idea of a public option. The insurance companies are not even trying to hide their price gouging anymore.

Please Sign this letter, call and make your voice heard. Thank your senator if they are on the list. Sometimes they do deserve a little love... and if they aren't on the list, well you all know the drill.

Also for your moment of GOP hypocrisy... now Cantor and Boehner say they want transparency, just not at the health care summit. this in spite of the fact that Boehner ASKED C-Span to have it televised.

Neither health care reform NOR the public option are dead. The media is trying to tell you otherwise, the GOP is trying to muddy the waters with stall tactics, and the insurance lobby is pumping huge amounts of money to stop it. It's not dead yet.

And yes, I am tired of the ups and downs -- but I will not give up. Too many people are suffering. We have come farther than we ever have before and even against all odds, this reform is not dead. Yogi Berra said, "It ain't over till it's over" -- and this isn't over.

and
Raine


UPDATE: Public Option, Medicare Buy-In May Be Headed To Senate Floor
Chris Bowers, who has been counting votes based on public responses and private correspondence, counts at least 45 votes for a public option. Democrats would need to find five more, with Vice President Joe Biden breaking the tie. [...]

If a public option falls short, backers could bring up a Medicare expansion as an alternative. The Medicare buy-in, which would allow those 55 and over to purchase the government plan, was enormously popular before it was unilaterally killed by Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), who said he would filibuster any bill with such an expansion.

But there is no filibuster under reconciliation rules. No other Democrat had opposed the Medicare expansion, indicating that there may be as many as 58 votes for it.


UPDATE ll: MSNBC is reporting that Senate and House are close to merging the Health Care Reform Bills.

UPDATE lll: Barbara Boxer, Jack Reed and Tom Udall have signed onto the public option.

UPDATE lV: (2/19/10) Senator Schumer is number 17 -- he has signed the letter.

UPDATE V: Obama will back the public option if Harry Reid does.

UPDATE Vl: (2/19/10) Shaheen Signs Public Option Letter, Becomes No. 18

UPDATE Vll: (2/19/10) Reid Signals Support For Reconciliation Vote On Public Option.

UPDATE Vlll (2/19/10)Arlen Specter has signed the Public Option reconcilliation letter.

UPDATE lX (2/23/10) 23 Senators have now signed the list.


 

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Comment by wickedpam on 02/18/2010 14:19:32
Morning

Comment by wickedpam on 02/18/2010 14:26:02
Its air pressure in the pipes, if I remember right - its been a while since I've has radiatiors

Comment by Raine on 02/18/2010 14:26:55
Quote by wickedpam:

Its air pressure in the pipes, if I remember right - its been a while since I've has radiatiors


She needs to bleed them...





I remember radiators well.

Comment by BobR on 02/18/2010 14:33:18
This info on the health care bill is VERY good news!

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/18/2010 14:34:04
Morning all. I have been up since 5:30

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/18/2010 14:44:04




Am I the only person who thinks this Metro PCS ad is racist?

Comment by Scoopster on 02/18/2010 14:47:41
Morning all!



Personally I just think it's a terrible ad. Not to mention that anyone I've spoken to about MetroPCS has said their cell service blows.

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/18/2010 14:50:37
Quote by Scoopster:

Morning all!



Personally I just think it's a terrible ad. Not to mention that anyone I've spoken to about MetroPCS has said their cell service blows.




It is stupid and racist I think. I don't know anything about their service quality. But, it sounds too good to be true.

Comment by velveeta jones on 02/18/2010 14:51:24
HeelllloooooooOOOOOooooo.



Hey, I've been too effin' busy to even look at my computer.

Comment by wickedpam on 02/18/2010 14:53:35
sherry IS a form a wine -just like Port is

Comment by BobR on 02/18/2010 14:56:28
Quote by Mondobubba:

Morning all. I have been up since 5:30


morning - does your friend still need help with table joins?

Comment by velveeta jones on 02/18/2010 14:56:35
Wow. This is some good news about the Public Option. Hell yeah!!!!!

Comment by Raine on 02/18/2010 14:58:44
Quote by velveeta jones:

HeelllloooooooOOOOOooooo.



Hey, I've been too effin' busy to even look at my computer.


I miss you! That said i know you have damn good reasons to be busy.

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/18/2010 15:00:28
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Morning all. I have been up since 5:30


morning - does your friend still need help with table joins?




Not really a friend. Turns out it was ephemeral in nature and from SQL server 2008.

Comment by Raine on 02/18/2010 15:01:49
Quote by Mondobubba:



Am I the only person who thinks this Metro PCS ad is racist?
It's really stupid, and yes, I think making fun of a persons race is indeed racist.



What the hell is their point?



Comment by BobR on 02/18/2010 15:05:17
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Morning all. I have been up since 5:30


morning - does your friend still need help with table joins?




Not really a friend. Turns out it was ephemeral in nature and from SQL server 2008.


ok. SQL Version is pretty much irrelevent when it comes to joins.

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/18/2010 15:07:14
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Mondobubba:



Am I the only person who thinks this Metro PCS ad is racist?
It's really stupid, and yes, I think making fun of a persons race is indeed racist.



What the hell is their point?





I don't know. Aren't south asians cute and amusing? Is that what they are saying?

Comment by Raine on 02/18/2010 15:07:24
and here I was thinking Ronald McDonald got creepier over the years. I was wrong.





Comment by velveeta jones on 02/18/2010 15:09:56
Quote by Raine:

Quote by velveeta jones:

HeelllloooooooOOOOOooooo.



Hey, I've been too effin' busy to even look at my computer.


I miss you! That said i know you have damn good reasons to be busy.




*sigh* more than you know........ Thanks bunny-boo.



Comment by Raine on 02/18/2010 15:13:42
I'm listening intently Steve... and you are still making no sense. BRO'

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/18/2010 15:15:35
Quote by Raine:

and here I was thinking Ronald McDonald got creepier over the years. I was wrong.







Gee what famous teevee weather man was that?

Comment by Raine on 02/18/2010 15:19:01
To my friends who tweet: PLEASE go here.



I just sent a message to Mark Warner.

Comment by wickedpam on 02/18/2010 15:23:50
Quote by Raine:

To my friends who tweet: PLEASE go here.



I just sent a message to Mark Warner.






mine went to Webb

Comment by Raine on 02/18/2010 15:26:17
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

To my friends who tweet: PLEASE go here.



I just sent a message to Mark Warner.






mine went to Webb
interesting. I am going back again, maybe i can send another.



Comment by Raine on 02/18/2010 15:28:50
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

To my friends who tweet: PLEASE go here.



I just sent a message to Mark Warner.






mine went to Webb
interesting. I am going back again, maybe i can send another.

Try it again, my second time I got Webb.







Comment by wickedpam on 02/18/2010 15:47:46
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

To my friends who tweet: PLEASE go here.



I just sent a message to Mark Warner.






mine went to Webb
interesting. I am going back again, maybe i can send another.

Try it again, my second time I got Webb.









I got Warner my second time - they must alternate



Comment by livingonli on 02/18/2010 16:20:04
Good morning everyone. Another crappy night of sleep. I really wish this sprain would finally heal up.



In other news, we've been running on the MSG ticker the word that Tiger Woods will have a press conference tomorrow at 11 AM but will not take questions from the press. So, how is that a press conference?

Comment by wickedpam on 02/18/2010 16:28:24
Morning Liv



They say a sprain can sometimes fell worse then a break. I can't really compare the two but when I sprained my ankle it hurt no matter how I tried to get comfortable

Comment by wickedpam on 02/18/2010 16:38:33
MGM letter

Comment by livingonli on 02/18/2010 16:47:11
I was listening and still missed it. Damn crappy local AM signal.

Comment by wickedpam on 02/18/2010 16:54:15
yes Chris we have a longer history out here on the east coast

Comment by wickedpam on 02/18/2010 17:14:53
*sigh* cpac

Comment by TriSec on 02/18/2010 17:25:13


Comment by clintster on 02/18/2010 17:43:14
OK, following the Austin crash. With the information that the pilot burned down his house then stole the plane, Mrs. C and I are thinking three possibilities:



1) Disgruntled employee

2) Divorce gone WAY bad

3) Teabagger going crazy(er)

Comment by TriSec on 02/18/2010 17:45:00
Say, a driving question for the DC branch of the blog...



What's the best way to transit the Beltway? (Yeah, I know...drive down I-81 from Maryland).



I've driven on the Eastern side and also the BWI expressway to the Wilson Bridge (all the way from Baltimore), and got stuck in monumental jams trying to reach 95 south.



Is the West side any better?



Comment by livingonli on 02/18/2010 17:54:31
Cpac where Thom Hartmann has fun with the loonies and I throw up in my mouth.

Comment by wickedpam on 02/18/2010 17:56:44
Well, when I travel to PA (the York area) I use 30 and 15 and some back roads into Manassas. Manassas itself is south and west of the city - about an1 to 1 1/2 hours away depending on where you are going. Traffics not bad on 30 its fairly open and easy - plus you get to pass by Thrumont where Camp David is (somewhere out there). 15 is a 2 lane road that's an old truck route - it can be a tougher drive and you have to watch for turning and passing cars

Comment by BobR on 02/18/2010 18:43:18
Quote by TriSec:

Say, a driving question for the DC branch of the blog...



What's the best way to transit the Beltway? (Yeah, I know...drive down I-81 from Maryland).



I've driven on the Eastern side and also the BWI expressway to the Wilson Bridge (all the way from Baltimore), and got stuck in monumental jams trying to reach 95 south.



Is the West side any better?



Depending on your overall route, you could try 295. That's the Balt-Wash parkway, but it's pretty decent inside the beltway. The west side of the beltway is no better than the east side.



If you can avoid the morning and evening rush hours, though, the beltway generally isn't too bad.



Check online for road construction before you leave; that can change everything.

Comment by velveeta jones on 02/18/2010 19:29:30
Quote by clintster:

OK, following the Austin crash. With the information that the pilot burned down his house then stole the plane, Mrs. C and I are thinking three possibilities:



1) Disgruntled employee

2) Divorce gone WAY bad

3) Teabagger going crazy(er)




I'm going with option 3 since the IRS was in the building according to reports. My question: How long before the building pancakes onto its own footprint?





Comment by velveeta jones on 02/18/2010 19:37:37
Oh wait, the asshat teabagger set fire to his home where his wife and child were, before killing himself. I guess he wanted to take out his whole family with himself. 'Cause, maybe he owned them??? Selfish motherfucker.

Comment by velveeta jones on 02/18/2010 19:49:42
MSNBC Reporter: "Can you show our viewers where the plane hit the building?"

Eyewitness: (pointing at burning building) "See where that hole is, and the white smoke coming out? Right around there..."





Comment by Scoopster on 02/18/2010 19:56:42
This guy's "suicide note" is just...... Wowwwww..

Comment by velveeta jones on 02/18/2010 20:19:20
Quote by Scoopster:

This guy's "suicide note" is just...... Wowwwww..




meh. Too long. When I commit murder/suicide my note will be short and, more importantly, to the point.

Comment by BobR on 02/18/2010 21:20:30
Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by Scoopster:

This guy's "suicide note" is just...... Wowwwww..




meh. Too long. When I commit murder/suicide my note will be short and, more importantly, to the point.


give it 2 days - we're going to find out a whole lot about Mr. Stack and the organizations to which he belonged.

Comment by BobR on 02/18/2010 21:20:59
Quote by velveeta jones:

MSNBC Reporter: "Can you show our viewers where the plane hit the building?"

Eyewitness: (pointing at burning building) "See where that hole is, and the white smoke coming out? Right around there..."







Comment by TriSec on 02/18/2010 21:32:08
There ain't a peep about this plane crash on Boston.com.



It's official, the Globe is dead.





Comment by TriSec on 02/18/2010 21:35:44
Now, I gave this some thought a year ago. I couldn't leave a note....Mrs. TriSec wouldn't be able to collect.



It's easy to arrange an "accident" at this time of year. Just take a day hike in the White Mountains with the wrong equipment.





Comment by Mondobubba on 02/18/2010 23:54:24
Quote by TriSec:

Say, a driving question for the DC branch of the blog...



What's the best way to transit the Beltway? (Yeah, I know...drive down I-81 from Maryland).



I've driven on the Eastern side and also the BWI expressway to the Wilson Bridge (all the way from Baltimore), and got stuck in monumental jams trying to reach 95 south.



Is the West side any better?





The thing to remember is the BW Parkway ends and become NY Ave you would have to take that down to where 295 end just north of the Capitol. You best bet I think is to take the inner loop thru PG county where 95 meets the beltway. Then you can take the new wilson bridge over to the bowl of concrete spaghetti where 495, 395 and 95 meet. Since Mala is in that part of Alexandria, you and the family Sec could meet her for lunch!.



Comment by Raine on 02/19/2010 00:20:33
Quote by TriSec:

Say, a driving question for the DC branch of the blog...



What's the best way to transit the Beltway? (Yeah, I know...drive down I-81 from Maryland).



I've driven on the Eastern side and also the BWI expressway to the Wilson Bridge (all the way from Baltimore), and got stuck in monumental jams trying to reach 95 south.



Is the West side any better?;

You're coming for the Jerk and the white stuff, right?



I will add that it just seems easier to take 295 when trying to head south. Mala knows back roads, I don't. I also learned that when driving from NY to points south of DC -- we avoid I-95.



;)

Comment by Raine on 02/19/2010 00:27:16
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by TriSec:

Say, a driving question for the DC branch of the blog...



What's the best way to transit the Beltway? (Yeah, I know...drive down I-81 from Maryland).



I've driven on the Eastern side and also the BWI expressway to the Wilson Bridge (all the way from Baltimore), and got stuck in monumental jams trying to reach 95 south.



Is the West side any better?





The thing to remember is the BW Parkway ends and become NY Ave you would have to take that down to where 295 end just north of the Capitol. You best bet I think is to take the inner loop thru PG county where 95 meets the beltway. Then you can take the new wilson bridge over to the bowl of concrete spaghetti where 495, 395 and 95 meet. Since Mala is in that part of Alexandria, you and the family Sec could meet her for lunch!.

the BWI goes all the way to the Wilson bridge -- Raine and Bob live in that part of Alexandria. Once you get off the bridge, you take i-1 north. We actually live very close to where Mala works.