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Small Iron-y.
Author: Raine    Date: 08/30/2010 13:05:05

On Sunday, NYC presented the Arlington County Fire Department with a section of steel from the World Trade Center to honor the department's service during the September 11 attacks. There was a parade, and a presentation.
The Fire Family Transport Foundation, which provides medical transportation to injured New York firefighters and their families, delivered its first piece of steel in 2003 to the U.S. Marine Corps at Camp Lejeune, said Eugene Stolowski, who works with the foundation and is a firefighter in the Bronx, N.Y.

Foundation officials decided in 2007 to start the motorcycle runs as fundraisers. The Iron and Steel team has delivered World Trade Center steel to the National Infantry Mueseum at Fort Benning, Ga., and to the Shanksville Volunteer Fire Co., which responded to the crash of United Flight 93 in Pennsylvania.

More than $20,000 was raised by the bikers and other donations for the Shanksville run, which allowed the foundation to purchase a new car to transport families. The Fort Benning run raised about $15,000, Stolowski said, and a portion of the proceeds benefits the Wounded Warrior Project, which helps injured military personnel.
I will do my very best to not be jaded today, as I do honestly believe that this is a decent cause. What I find strange, though is that much of the WTC steel remains were sold off for scrap metal in the months shortly after the attacks.
The Port Authority estimates more than 200,000 tons of steel was used in the World Trade Center's construction. Of that total, more than 168,000 tons has been salvaged from Ground Zero thus far, according to the New York City Office of Emergency Management

Three companies, Metal Management Northeast of Newark, N.J., Hugo Neu Schnitzer East of Jersey City and Blandford Land Development Corporation of Brooklyn, N.Y., have successfully bid for city contracts to recycle the steel, and continue to bid on what remains to be salvaged.

"Once they have it in their possession they in turn have the right to sell it," Matthew Monahan, City of New York Department of Design and Construction spokesman said. "It becomes their steel."
Being pragmatic, this is really logical. Unlike the USS Arizona, which lays as a memorial at Pearl Harbour, the rubble around the WTC needed to be removed. There were many health reasons for that as well. That said, this is where the 'honor our dead at hallowed ground' argument doesn't add up for me. This stopped being hallowed ground when NYC decided to sell it's scrap steel to the highest bidder.

China purchased more than 50,000 tons of steel.
"Baosteel officials reached by Shanghai Daily, however, denied they will make keepsakes out of the debris, but declined to give more details of their plans, saying only that the scrap will be melted down and reprocessed into new steel products.

"Another shipment of 10,000 tons of scrap from the WTC arrived in India earlier this month, reported Shanghai Morning Post. The metal will be melted down and recycled into kitchenware and other household items, the paper said.

"India bought its lot at US$120 per ton from the New Jersey scrap processor Metal Management, which purchased 40,000 tons of the debflad of the United ris at an auction held by the New York City government. Dealers estimated that the WTC disaster created more than 300,000 tons of scrap metal."
In India, it is said that the iron would be used to make kitchen utensils, and China said it would not use the medal to make commemorative items, thus making a profit off of the September 11, attacks.

When people cry about something being morally reprehensible like the Muslim Community center in Downtown, remind them: the WTC Center was sold overseas to the highest bidder, That metal - like the one that we honor at parades like the one over the weekend in Arlington Virginia - is not only memorialized as scrap metal, but as frying pans as well. Yes we should honor our first responders, but we should stop holding up Downtown NYC as some sacred ground, especially when profits are made from it EVERY day.

Hallowed ground has already been outsourced to the highest bidder.

and
Raine


 

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Comment by wickedpam on 08/30/2010 13:14:23
Morning



Okay so let me get this right - in India they bought some of hte WTC scrap metal and turned it into kitchen utensils? ......ew - that's just creepy.



I get the need to recycle the metal, I'm just not sure how we could tell company's that buy the scrap how to use it. Maybe we should have been more selective on who it was sold too

Comment by wickedpam on 08/30/2010 13:15:45
Glen Beck just revitilized the tent revival sham

Comment by TriSec on 08/30/2010 13:29:41
Morning, comrades!



Wait, you mean the steel from the WTC wasn't hammered into monuments and distributed to every hamlet in the land?



(Kinda like the Berlin Wall...you never know where you'll run across a piece of that these days.)





Comment by Raine on 08/30/2010 13:30:40
Joe Madison did a great interview of Beck.


Comment by wickedpam on 08/30/2010 14:09:10
Yeah there were actually

Comment by Raine on 08/30/2010 14:27:15


This is where I went on Saturday. It really would have been nice for C-Span to make some time on one of the 3 channels it has to make room for this.

at least they archived it on there website.



Comment by TriSec on 08/30/2010 14:37:31
How did Saturday go? Were there a lot of people? Were they darker than you?



Did Beck's head explode? Did more than 50 people show up there?



There was some minimal coverage in the papers up here...Beck got page 3, and it mentioned in a paragraph or two about the counter-demonstrations.





Comment by BobR on 08/30/2010 14:47:32
Quote by TriSec:

How did Saturday go? Were there a lot of people? Were they darker than you?



Did Beck's head explode? Did more than 50 people show up there?



There was some minimal coverage in the papers up here...Beck got page 3, and it mentioned in a paragraph or two about the counter-demonstrations.





Beck seemed to fill the Mall area from the Lincoln Memorial to the WWII Memorial. That's fairly respectable (tens of thousands). From the bits of video I could stomach, they seemed mostly bored. As Raine said: they came expecting blood, and got a sermon instead.

Comment by TriSec on 08/30/2010 14:57:02
Listening to TRMS...I am rather stunned to learn she was not familiar with a milk punch....it's the signature drink of the Red Lion Inn in Stockbridge, MA...just a couple of towns over.



I am happy to learn that NO considers it a 'morning drink', so!



The Red Lion recipe:



1C milk

1t bar sugar

1 jigger brandy (NO version is bourbon)



Mix in a cocktail shaker with ice; pour in a brandy snifter and sprinkle nutmeg on top.





Comment by Raine on 08/30/2010 14:57:13
Quote by TriSec:

How did Saturday go? Were there a lot of people? Were they darker than you?



Did Beck's head explode? Did more than 50 people show up there?



There was some minimal coverage in the papers up here...Beck got page 3, and it mentioned in a paragraph or two about the counter-demonstrations.
Saturday was great. IT was a much smaller size than the Beck Thing. (and it is widely acknowledged that about 87,000 showed up to restore something. not the hundreds of thousands, that many other sites are saying)



I posted a few twit pics. HEre is Rev Sharpton and MLK III at the end of the march :

http://web25.twitpic.com/img/153003867-d5c08747151fe5affbd0a70cf6c68860.4c7bc770-scaled.jpg




This is at the front of the march about an hour earlier:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/152961678.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1283181250&Signature=WupjoqNl1Z5J6Ef4hVGKKNf8hfU%3D
It should noted that this is 6th street in DC. This picture was taken a few blocks before we reached constitution avenue. That crowed goes all the way back to N Street.



More people came to march than were at the rally. Yes there were LOTS and LOTS of people darker than me.

I got a chance to not only shake the hand of Ben Jealous, President of the NAACP, He gave me a hug.



They talked about Education equality, Prison reform, needing to move the dream forward, getting kids out of Gang culture and giving them hope for the future,







Comment by Raine on 08/30/2010 15:01:05
BTW, who the hell is Glenn beck to Judge What religion Obama is?

Comment by Raine on 08/30/2010 15:01:41
Comment by Raine on 08/30/2010 15:08:43
NO NO NO Edie, PLEASE Do not call it "Hot Lanta"



Comment by Raine on 08/30/2010 15:09:15
Edie Was in STAATSVILLE NY!



Comment by BobR on 08/30/2010 15:11:30
Quote by TriSec:

Listening to TRMS...I am rather stunned to learn she was not familiar with a milk punch....it's the signature drink of the Red Lion Inn in Stockbridge, MA...just a couple of towns over.



I am happy to learn that NO considers it a 'morning drink', so!



The Red Lion recipe:



1C milk

1t bar sugar

1 jigger brandy (NO version is bourbon)



Mix in a cocktail shaker with ice; pour in a brandy snifter and sprinkle nutmeg on top.





you could add an egg and then it really WOULD be a breakfast drink. Of course, that essentially would make it an eggnog...

Comment by Raine on 08/30/2010 15:12:49
Edie was in Rhinebeck? When she clarified, and called it Satanville, I do believe she was trying to say Staatsville NY.



Small town Just south of Rhinebeck.... It is the home of Mills Mansion.

Comment by BobR on 08/30/2010 15:13:49
Quote by Raine:

NO NO NO Edie, PLEASE Do not call it "Hot Lanta"



I thought we cleared this up YEARS ago...





Comment by wickedpam on 08/30/2010 15:24:20
Classic

Comment by Scoopster on 08/30/2010 15:33:41
Morning all & Happy Mondee!



Ugh busybusybusy end of the month crunch!

Comment by TriSec on 08/30/2010 15:34:59
Quote by Raine:

BTW, who the hell is Glenn beck to Judge What religion Obama is?




I'm starting to formulate a blog entry about this....not so much that people believe that the President is a Muslim...but *WHY* does this matter? This is something the media has yet to address.



And remember, a half century ago they were saying the same things about a Massachusetts Democrat that people were afraid were going to cede sovereignity to a religious leader and establish a Papal State.





Comment by TriSec on 08/30/2010 15:36:16
Quote by BobR:



you could add an egg and then it really WOULD be a breakfast drink. Of course, that essentially would make it an eggnog...






Great, I'll take mine fried on a plate with a side of bacon, then.



Last time I drank eggnog-->

Comment by Raine on 08/30/2010 15:37:25
Go ahead Right wing. Tell me how Glenn Beck is reclaiming the MLK dream:





Yup. he said that. Dr. King would NEVER NEVER have reacted this way.

Comment by Raine on 08/30/2010 15:41:07
Did Dr. King EVER call anyone an idiot?



I have been looking for any proof of that, I have found none.

Comment by livingonli on 08/30/2010 15:47:42
Good morning everyone.



C-SPAN did air the Sharpton rally on Saturday. They just didn't air it live. They ran it at 3:45 but showed Beck's Scam-a-palooza live.





The stoopid from the right-wing moran callers burns.

Comment by wickedpam on 08/30/2010 15:48:27


Comment by livingonli on 08/30/2010 15:56:15
1310 in Atlanta supposedly started airing Momma today.

Comment by livingonli on 08/30/2010 16:08:22
Al Sharpton is on MSNBC right now.

Comment by livingonli on 08/30/2010 17:21:40
This insane idiot is back on Thom.

Comment by TriSec on 08/30/2010 18:26:03
Given DC's weather pattern since a certain couple of bloggers showed up, I think it would be best for you to prepare for hurricane Earl.





Comment by wickedpam on 08/30/2010 19:40:33
Quote by TriSec:

Given DC's weather pattern since a certain couple of bloggers showed up, I think it would be best for you to prepare for hurricane Earl.









wait? what? I didn't think those storms were heading toward land!?

Comment by clintster on 08/30/2010 19:58:17
Quote by livingonli:

1310 in Atlanta supposedly started airing Momma today.




Don't know if they did or not. I did hear Ed Schultz during my planning period today. I'll listen tomorrow morning at the beginning of the program to see if they have her on.

Comment by TriSec on 08/30/2010 20:26:50
BTW, stick a fork in the Sox; they're done.



Comment by Raine on 08/30/2010 23:58:43
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by TriSec:

Given DC's weather pattern since a certain couple of bloggers showed up, I think it would be best for you to prepare for hurricane Earl.









wait? what? I didn't think those storms were heading toward land!?
I think Tri is talking about the arrival of Hurricane Raine and Bob....



I am getting prepared for it myself....



Comment by velveeta jones on 08/31/2010 04:10:04
What? Raine and Bobber have traveled farther up north? :blink: