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Bad Manners
Author: BobR    Date: 2011-05-26 10:30:46

Sometimes it seems that the only behavior more crass than TV sitcoms is that of our elected officials. Discussions of policy and plans for our nations future start of with vague generalities and end up with pointed insults and namecalling of opponents. The saying goes that "patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel"; it seems that too often our elected officials prove that to be true. Sometimes, they leave out the patriotism part altogether.

One of the most widely discussed recent incidents of that involves the recent House subcommittee hearing with current Consumer Agency director Elizabeth Warren. In what can only be accurately described as "the 3rd degree", rep Patrick T. McHenry (R-NC) grilled her over and over, and finally accused her of lying:
After an hour in which Ms. Warren repeatedly parried efforts by Mr. McHenry and other Republicans to pin her down with “yes or no” answers to questions about her March testimony — and about the bureau’s powers and responsibilities — Mr. McHenry abruptly moved for a temporarily recess so lawmakers could attend a floor vote.

Ms. Warren objected, saying that she had agreed to be present for only an hour and had no more time. Mr. McHenry disagreed and said that other subcommittee members still had questions for her.

A vigorous back and forth ensued.

“Congressman, you are causing problems,” Ms. Warren said. “We had an agreement.”

“You’re making this up,” Mr. McHenry replied, eliciting gasps from the audience. “This is not the case.”

As Mr. McHenry and Ms. Warren traded accusations, a senior Democrat, Representative Elijah Cummings of Maryland, tried to smooth things over. “Mr. Chairman,” he said, “I’m trying to be cordial here — you just accused the lady of lying. You need to clear this up with your staff.”

This incident has resulted in a huge backlash against Rep McHenry, and deservedly so. One does not accuse a high-ranking dedicated official without transcripts and/or footage to back up their case.

On the other side of the aisle, Sen Harry Reid (D-NV) pulled out the hyperbole in attacking a Republican for a bill amendment, without mentioning anything about the Dem that co-sponsored it. Rand Paul (R-KY) and Patrick Leahy (D-VT) are trying to make changes to expiring portions of the PATRIOT Act to make them more civil-liberties-friendly. This is something Dems were pushing for back when the law was first being debated. Rare kudos to Paul for his support. Instead, Harry Reid accuses Paul of supporting terrorists. This is a stupid scoundrel-y move by Reid. He could have embraced it in a show of bipartisanship. False accusations of supporting the terrorists is SOooo 2003, Harry.

Sometimes the bad behavior slips over into the media (sometimes?). Left-wing-version-of-Rush-Limbaugh Ed Schultz frequently blathers junk he knows nothing about, repeating rumors and disproven talking points. This time, however, he disconnected his brain from his mouth and let fly with the kind of comment that has slain greater journalists - he called Laura Ingraham a "slut". Laura Ingraham is a lot of things: a harpie, a bitch, a troll, and an annoying asshole. Calling her a "slut", however, is an insult too far. It is apropos of nothing, relevant to none of the horrible things she says and does. It does NOT help the left at all, and anyone who rallies behind him doesn't get that. At least MSNBC gets it and suspended him.

When and where did all this start? When did it become okay for a senator to call an executive branch director a liar, for a senator to call accuse another senator of supporting terrorists, for a media personality to refer to another with such a sexually-charged adjective?

One need look back no further than 1996. That's when current presidential candidate and then Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich released the infamous GoPac Memo, in which he detailed how to use language to perform character assassination on one's opponents. Policy was an afterthought. Why try to succinctly debate the pros and cons of a message when you can simply demonize the messenger? Click over to the link, and see how many of these emotionally-charged words you can pick out still being used today to smear opponents.

It's so easy, really... The Republicans don't need a detailed budget bill, when they can simply fill a vague summary with code words. Of course - at some point after getting elected you need to come up with actual legislation, but then - isn't that what industry lobbyists are for?

Oops there I go - attacking the messenger. I wonder where I learned that?
 

36 comments (Latest Comment: 05/27/2011 02:22:52 by Raine)
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Comment by Raine on 05/26/2011 12:04:29
oooogh. basically I have been up since about 5:30 this morning. Sleeping on a couch, at my sisters house. I am terribly thankful to them, but BOY I cannot wait to get home....

Excellent post today Bob.

I am most surprised at Harry Reid to be honest. What he did just doesn't seem like him. Ed however, has been ratcheting things up a LOT lately. Pulling this crap makes him no better than those on the right that pull the dogwhistle racism with regards to POTUS.

It's mysogyny pure and simple, and like his Anna Nicole Smith comment a few years ago, he's showing his sexist slip. I want OUR side to be better than this. I do not want to be like them.

... Good Morning!

Comment by wickedpam on 05/26/2011 13:00:53
Morning

I'm a bit surpised by Harry Reid too, I thought he was above the fray on things like this.

On a different subject, went out and got myself a new fancy phone - a Droid Global - anyone have a droid? how is it on the battery?

Comment by TriSec on 05/26/2011 13:03:43
Morning, comrades!

Get thee to the BBC; bigtime breaking news going on.

"Bad Manners" per se is nothing new in politics....go look up Senator Charles Sumner (R-MA, circa 1856.)



Comment by Raine on 05/26/2011 13:05:00
Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades!

Get thee to the BBC; bigtime breaking news going on.

"Bad Manners" per se is nothing new in politics....go look up Senator Charles Sumner (R-MA, circa 1856.)


I don;t need to look that one up...

What is the breaking news? I'm listenign to WTOP right now, nothing breaking here.

Comment by Raine on 05/26/2011 13:08:16
I still think Ed should NEVER have said this in the first place.

Comment by BobR on 05/26/2011 13:09:51
Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades!

Get thee to the BBC; bigtime breaking news going on.

"Bad Manners" per se is nothing new in politics....go look up Senator Charles Sumner (R-MA, circa 1856.)


There used to be slaves too. C'mon - I was referring to more recent history (within our lifetimes) as mankind has supposedly become more enlightened.


Comment by BobR on 05/26/2011 13:11:20
Quote by Raine:
Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades!

Get thee to the BBC; bigtime breaking news going on.

"Bad Manners" per se is nothing new in politics....go look up Senator Charles Sumner (R-MA, circa 1856.)


I don;t need to look that one up...

What is the breaking news? I'm listenign to WTOP right now, nothing breaking here.

Ratko Mladic's arrest?
US pulling diplomats out of Yemen?

Comment by Raine on 05/26/2011 13:13:05
Quote by BobR:Ratko Mladic's arrest?
US pulling diplomats out of Yemen?

Right after I typed that, I heard about Mladic's arrest. Good news indeed.

Comment by Raine on 05/26/2011 13:15:13
Comment by TriSec on 05/26/2011 13:23:45
Quote by BobR:

There used to be slaves too. C'mon - I was referring to more recent history (within our lifetimes) as mankind has supposedly become more enlightened.


Ah, I'm reading more of a "the more things change, the more they stay the same" vibe into this morning's blog...




Comment by Raine on 05/26/2011 13:31:54
Mala, are you listening to the show?

Comment by BobR on 05/26/2011 13:34:39
Quote by TriSec:
Quote by BobR:

There used to be slaves too. C'mon - I was referring to more recent history (within our lifetimes) as mankind has supposedly become more enlightened.


Ah, I'm reading more of a "the more things change, the more they stay the same" vibe into this morning's blog...


It was more of "things were fairly adult until Newt got involved - and look at it now"

Comment by TriSec on 05/26/2011 13:38:56
Mmmm...point taken.

JFK liked women other than his wife, and it was covered up at the time. I think maybe when Mr. Clinton's region became headline news, that was the end of any remaining decorum.



Comment by wickedpam on 05/26/2011 13:42:57
Quote by Raine:
Mala, are you listening to the show?



sort of, I was playing with my new phone

what I miss?

Comment by Scoopster on 05/26/2011 13:52:40
Morning all..

Not feeling too good today. I'm on day three of my pipes being backed up and I'm starting to get really worried. Not to mention the internal pressure is VERY noticeable.

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/26/2011 13:55:25
Hello all. :goes back into steal mode:

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/26/2011 13:56:21
Quote by Scoopster:
Morning all..

Not feeling too good today. I'm on day three of my pipes being backed up and I'm starting to get really worried. Not to mention the internal pressure is VERY noticeable.


Which pipes the solid or liquid waste? If it is liquid, go to the doctor. RIGHT NOW.

Comment by Scoopster on 05/26/2011 14:06:34
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Scoopster:
Morning all..

Not feeling too good today. I'm on day three of my pipes being backed up and I'm starting to get really worried. Not to mention the internal pressure is VERY noticeable.


Which pipes the solid or liquid waste? If it is liquid, go to the doctor. RIGHT NOW.

Solid, thankfully I suppose. I got some milk of magnesia last night so hopefully that will eventually clear things up.

Comment by TriSec on 05/26/2011 14:13:20
*non sequitir*

I chuckle nearly every morning when I pull out my hot caffeinated beverage of choice, prominently labeled "TEA BAGS".

I suppose I should bring in a box of the good stuff. In the ultimate irony, I have some actual East India Co. tea at home. Uncle Sam sells the stuff right by the Minuteman, marked as "Boston Tea Party Tea".

But I digress.



Comment by Raine on 05/26/2011 14:24:05
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Mala, are you listening to the show?



sort of, I was playing with my new phone

what I miss?

Sorry I walked away too. I was sortof uncomfortable with the show, praising Ed for apologizing, without mentioning the actual act that he did.

If he were talking about Laura and her sexual behaviour, then that is one thing, but what he did was wrong. PERIOD.





Comment by wickedpam on 05/26/2011 14:30:14
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Mala, are you listening to the show?



sort of, I was playing with my new phone

what I miss?

Sorry I walked away too. I was sortof uncomfortable with the show, praising Ed for apologizing, without mentioning the actual act that he did.

If he were talking about Laura and her sexual behaviour, then that is one thing, but what he did was wrong. PERIOD.






I'm not thrilled about it either - I have no clue why he said it or when, either way - we're supposed to be better then that

Comment by Raine on 05/26/2011 15:17:19
BREAKING Judge Strikes Down Walker's Anti-Union Law

Comment by wickedpam on 05/26/2011 15:38:30
is this the new talking point for callers? "Tell us the reason why your blah, blah, blah"

Comment by livingonli on 05/26/2011 15:42:16
Good morning everyone. I've got to return the rental car today just hope I have someone to bring me home.

Comment by BobR on 05/26/2011 15:47:23
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning everyone. I've got to return the rental car today just hope I have someone to bring me home.

Most rental car places have "courtesy shuttle" service


Comment by wickedpam on 05/26/2011 15:48:43
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning everyone. I've got to return the rental car today just hope I have someone to bring me home.



this is why I choose enterprise, unless its a Saturday, they will pick you up and drop you off.

So did you get your trunk fixed? What was wrong with it?

Comment by livingonli on 05/26/2011 16:05:16
I'm getting the trunk looked at Tuesday. That was the earliest appointment I could get. I used to remember having to wait at least a week when I took the Saturn to the dealer.

Comment by TriSec on 05/26/2011 16:46:11
Ready for some daytime baseball??

And I was just looking over the box score from last night's Phils-Reds affair.



Comment by Raine on 05/26/2011 17:23:30
Quote by livingonli:
I'm getting the trunk looked at Tuesday. That was the earliest appointment I could get. I used to remember having to wait at least a week when I took the Saturn to the dealer.

Why do you still have the rental car?

Comment by TriSec on 05/26/2011 17:38:40
And we have finally moved into that magical few day period in the spring when the weather is just about perfect.

We'll be complaining about the humidity by next Wednesday. Do bookmark this blog and call me on it.

(New England: Complaining is a way of life. You got a problem with that?)




Comment by livingonli on 05/26/2011 17:38:41
Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli:
I'm getting the trunk looked at Tuesday. That was the earliest appointment I could get. I used to remember having to wait at least a week when I took the Saturn to the dealer.

Why do you still have the rental car?

I had rented it for the week. I just needed to work out getting a ride back home. Rental car has been returned.

Comment by wickedpam on 05/26/2011 18:01:52
Quote by TriSec:
And we have finally moved into that magical few day period in the spring when the weather is just about perfect.

We'll be complaining about the humidity by next Wednesday. Do bookmark this blog and call me on it.

(New England: Complaining is a way of life. You got a problem with that?)





I'm already complaining about the humidity


Comment by TriSec on 05/26/2011 18:05:46
Sox are at it again, up 7-0 in the 3rd. All their suck seems to have rubbed off on Da Broons.



Comment by TriSec on 05/26/2011 19:00:34
Uber baseball geek: Varitek just got a hit and has gone above the Mendoza line on the season! (.208 as of this writing)



Comment by Scoopster on 05/26/2011 23:14:35
That Crawford kid is startin' to earn his paycheck finally too.. 8/9 in the past two games with two triples, then add in some last minute heroics and a few home runs before that..

In other news, I managed to get some of the pressure off my plumbing but I've still got a clog. I do feel a LOT better tho without as much bloating and cramping.

Comment by Raine on 05/27/2011 02:22:52