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Country First
Author: Raine
Date: 07/14/2011 12:53:50
Some days, words fail me. Today may not one of those times. Politico reports:
I was going to write a blog today trying to delineate the difference between politics, activism and governance. I find that I may have to put that subject off for a bit, because to be quite honest with you, it would be hard to describe what Eric Cantor is doing as politics. It's certainly not governing. It's the same with John Boehner, who appears to have totally checked out of any negotiations here.
There are many variables to this particular story, one that seems to have been started by Eric Cantor himself, as The Hill initially reported yesterday. Cantor told reporters the President was "agitated" and "stormed out of a meeting" -- You know, in other words, he was an angry black man who is just downright unreasonable. We've seen this dog whistle tactic before, often from the likes of Eric Cantor.
Bob Wrote yesterday about how the GOP has allowed themselves to be painted into a corner. It was a wonderful piece about how politics works and how the GOP doesn't seem to know how to govern. We've seen a lack of governance for a while, partly due to party loyalty, but when we reach a point that our credit rating may be downgraded, enough is enough. The Markets are already starting to lag just based on this warning. This is not party politics anymore, this is class warfare. It's incredibly dangerous. When ideology trumps common sense -- that tends to turn into the fanatical. The Tea Party is a good example. In sports, fanaticism is fine, but this isn't sports -- this is our nation we are talking about, not some exotic place we have read about.
There ARE lives at stake here. What the House led GOP is doing may make Wisconsin look like a drop in the bucket. This is the very essence of what Naomi Klein wrote about in her book The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism. We are staring down the barrel of a gun here and it's because the GOP refuses to do what they were elected to do. The consequences of not raising the Debt Ceiling will be disastrous. All one has to do is take a look at Greece or Chile. How about New Orleans or Iraq? This is what Milton Friedman advocated. It's happening right now, right here in OUR Country, known as the United States of America. We live here. We work here. We love here. We cry here. We bleed here. We do these things here, in OUR Country.
There is a difference between understanding politics and activism. Today is one of those days for activism that will help the President - and those who take this issue quite seriously - to govern. He cannot do this alone... Nancy Pelosi cannot do this alone... Clearly, the GOP has no desire to govern; instead, they obstruct and this time they are willing to take our nation down with them. It's time to at least make our voices heard.
Call Eric Cantor today:
Richmond Office - phone: (804) 747-4073 | fax: (804) 747-5308
DC Office - phone: 202-225-2815 | fax: 202-225-0011
Call John Boehner today:
Washington, D.C. Office
1011 Longworth H.O.B.
Washington, DC 20515
(202) 225-6205
(202) 225-0704 fax
Tell them this is our Country as much as theirs and we need them to put Country first.
ENOUGH!
and 
Raine
When Cantor said the two sides were too far apart to get a deal that could pass the House by the Treasury Department’s Aug. 2 deadline — and that he would consider moving a short-term debt-limit increase alongside smaller spending cuts — Obama began to lecture him.
“Eric, don’t call my bluff,” the president said, warning Cantor that he would take his case “to the American people.” He told Cantor that no other president — not Ronald Reagan, the president said — would sit through such negotiations.
Democratic sources dispute Cantor’s version of Obama’s walk out, but all sides agree that the two had a blow up. The sources described Obama as “impassioned” but said he didn’t exactly storm out of the room.
“Cantor’s account of tonight’s meeting is completely overblown. For someone who knows how to walk out of a meeting, you’d think he’d know it when he saw it,” a Democratic aide said. “Cantor rudely interrupted the president three times to advocate for short-term debt ceiling increases while the president was wrapping the meeting. This is just more juvenile behavior from him and Boehner needs to rein him in, and let the grown-ups get to work.”
I was going to write a blog today trying to delineate the difference between politics, activism and governance. I find that I may have to put that subject off for a bit, because to be quite honest with you, it would be hard to describe what Eric Cantor is doing as politics. It's certainly not governing. It's the same with John Boehner, who appears to have totally checked out of any negotiations here.
There are many variables to this particular story, one that seems to have been started by Eric Cantor himself, as The Hill initially reported yesterday. Cantor told reporters the President was "agitated" and "stormed out of a meeting" -- You know, in other words, he was an angry black man who is just downright unreasonable. We've seen this dog whistle tactic before, often from the likes of Eric Cantor.
Bob Wrote yesterday about how the GOP has allowed themselves to be painted into a corner. It was a wonderful piece about how politics works and how the GOP doesn't seem to know how to govern. We've seen a lack of governance for a while, partly due to party loyalty, but when we reach a point that our credit rating may be downgraded, enough is enough. The Markets are already starting to lag just based on this warning. This is not party politics anymore, this is class warfare. It's incredibly dangerous. When ideology trumps common sense -- that tends to turn into the fanatical. The Tea Party is a good example. In sports, fanaticism is fine, but this isn't sports -- this is our nation we are talking about, not some exotic place we have read about.
There ARE lives at stake here. What the House led GOP is doing may make Wisconsin look like a drop in the bucket. This is the very essence of what Naomi Klein wrote about in her book The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism. We are staring down the barrel of a gun here and it's because the GOP refuses to do what they were elected to do. The consequences of not raising the Debt Ceiling will be disastrous. All one has to do is take a look at Greece or Chile. How about New Orleans or Iraq? This is what Milton Friedman advocated. It's happening right now, right here in OUR Country, known as the United States of America. We live here. We work here. We love here. We cry here. We bleed here. We do these things here, in OUR Country.
There is a difference between understanding politics and activism. Today is one of those days for activism that will help the President - and those who take this issue quite seriously - to govern. He cannot do this alone... Nancy Pelosi cannot do this alone... Clearly, the GOP has no desire to govern; instead, they obstruct and this time they are willing to take our nation down with them. It's time to at least make our voices heard.
Call Eric Cantor today:
Richmond Office - phone: (804) 747-4073 | fax: (804) 747-5308
DC Office - phone: 202-225-2815 | fax: 202-225-0011
Call John Boehner today:
Washington, D.C. Office
1011 Longworth H.O.B.
Washington, DC 20515
(202) 225-6205
(202) 225-0704 fax
Tell them this is our Country as much as theirs and we need them to put Country first.
and Raine
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Comment by 
Scoopster on 07/14/2011 13:14:19
Scoopster on 07/14/2011 13:14:19
Mornin' all.. 
What a difference a day makes. It feels like mid-spring outside today!
What a difference a day makes. It feels like mid-spring outside today!
Comment by 
wickedpam on 07/14/2011 13:15:18
wickedpam on 07/14/2011 13:15:18
Morning 
Comment by 
Raine on 07/14/2011 13:52:46
Raine on 07/14/2011 13:52:46
It's pretty quiet this morning.
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 13:55:24
Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 13:55:24
Morning all. As you know, I've emailed the office of The Bullying Coward, John Boehner, Economic Terrorist. I will be calling the office of the Intellectually Stunted Partisan Ass, Eric Cantor later today.
Comment by 
TriSec on 07/14/2011 14:00:29
TriSec on 07/14/2011 14:00:29
Tootling my own horn for a second....
Mrs. TriSec and I have managed to be married for 15 years on this date.
I know people that didn't stay married 15 weeks (really!).
Alas, I am at the store tonight (I usually don't bother to get weeknights of in the summer, since I work so damn few of them, go figure.) So, this is tomorrow evening's plan -->
Mrs. TriSec and I have managed to be married for 15 years on this date.
I know people that didn't stay married 15 weeks (really!).
Alas, I am at the store tonight (I usually don't bother to get weeknights of in the summer, since I work so damn few of them, go figure.) So, this is tomorrow evening's plan -->
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 14:01:54
Raine on 07/14/2011 14:01:54
I think that Boehner is just a pathetic drunken pile of a sweaty mess right now. He literally (as I mentioned in the blog... ) has totally checked out.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/14/2011 14:05:20
wickedpam on 07/14/2011 14:05:20
Congrats on 15 Tri! 
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 14:07:53
Raine on 07/14/2011 14:07:53
Happy Anniversary to the TriSec Familia!
Comment by 
BobR on 07/14/2011 14:11:39
Congrats!!
BobR on 07/14/2011 14:11:39
Quote by TriSec:
Tootling my own horn for a second....
Mrs. TriSec and I have managed to be married for 15 years on this date.
I know people that didn't stay married 15 weeks (really!).
Alas, I am at the store tonight (I usually don't bother to get weeknights of in the summer, since I work so damn few of them, go figure.) So, this is tomorrow evening's plan -->
Congrats!!
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 14:17:08
Raine on 07/14/2011 14:17:08
I want to make a note here... the use of Country First was not meant to be Ironic... IT was meant to get people think about who was the GOP candidate in 2008.
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 14:18:09
Raine on 07/14/2011 14:18:09
Quote by Raine:
I want to make a note here... the use of Country First was not meant to be Ironic... It was meant to get people think about who was the GOP candidate in 2008.
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 14:27:46
Raine on 07/14/2011 14:27:46
Caller is wrong.
Kucinich is wrong. If the Treasury shuts down there is no BANK to write the checks from.
Kucinich is wrong. If the Treasury shuts down there is no BANK to write the checks from.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 14:29:33
Well done! Here is to 35 or more.
Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 14:29:33
Quote by TriSec:
Tootling my own horn for a second....
Mrs. TriSec and I have managed to be married for 15 years on this date.
I know people that didn't stay married 15 weeks (really!).
Alas, I am at the store tonight (I usually don't bother to get weeknights of in the summer, since I work so damn few of them, go figure.) So, this is tomorrow evening's plan -->
Well done! Here is to 35 or more.
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 14:30:24
Raine on 07/14/2011 14:30:24
Why don't people get that? It's not scare tactics... IF we default -- there is no bank. No Social Security Checks...
There is no FDIC for our government.
There is no FDIC for our government.
Comment by 
clintster on 07/14/2011 14:34:28
Congrats to the TriSecs!
clintster on 07/14/2011 14:34:28
Quote by TriSec:
Tootling my own horn for a second....
Mrs. TriSec and I have managed to be married for 15 years on this date.
I know people that didn't stay married 15 weeks (really!).
Alas, I am at the store tonight (I usually don't bother to get weeknights of in the summer, since I work so damn few of them, go figure.) So, this is tomorrow evening's plan -->
Congrats to the TriSecs!
Comment by wickedpam on 07/14/2011 14:35:36
as they have used that money in other places so there's not the money "in the bank" that they think
wickedpam on 07/14/2011 14:35:36
Quote by Raine:
Caller is wrong.
Kucinich is wrong. If the Treasury shuts down there is no BANK to write the checks from.
as they have used that money in other places so there's not the money "in the bank" that they think
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 14:38:45
people don't quite understand that the money from SS goes into the treasury.
We are literally talking about the Treasury shutting down here. SS does not have a separate SS bank.
Raine on 07/14/2011 14:38:45
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Caller is wrong.
Kucinich is wrong. If the Treasury shuts down there is no BANK to write the checks from.
as they have used that money in other places so there's not the money "in the bank" that they think
We are literally talking about the Treasury shutting down here. SS does not have a separate SS bank.
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 14:48:38
Raine on 07/14/2011 14:48:38
let me put it this way, as I have understood this. (I hate trying to understand this stuff, so please feel free to tell me if I am wrong)
People pay into Social Security. SS Buys bonds with that money from the Treasury. It creates interest. That interest helps to pay for checks. Interest is important here.
If SS can't buy bonds from the treasury, we go on austerity mode. That is very bad. We have been told that SS is fine for about 12 years, (till 2025?) this oncoming crisis will just throw our nation underwater.
The entire Idea of what Obama is talking about is to try to make SS solvent for the long haul. Right now we are relying on interest to keep it solvent. We default, we have no treasury -- no treasury, no solvency.
People pay into Social Security. SS Buys bonds with that money from the Treasury. It creates interest. That interest helps to pay for checks. Interest is important here.
If SS can't buy bonds from the treasury, we go on austerity mode. That is very bad. We have been told that SS is fine for about 12 years, (till 2025?) this oncoming crisis will just throw our nation underwater.
The entire Idea of what Obama is talking about is to try to make SS solvent for the long haul. Right now we are relying on interest to keep it solvent. We default, we have no treasury -- no treasury, no solvency.
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 15:00:56
I like this very much.
I would have to say, She's not really speaking out about her half sister. I'm kind of Disappointed in this.
Mondo -- I think Salon is trying to drag LaFave into the story. She did not speak out wrt to Bachmann. She just simply spoke.
I have a republican Dad -- his last name is Koch.
They could make a story like this about me. I hope that makes some sense.
Raine on 07/14/2011 15:00:56
Quote by Mondobubba:
Michelle Bachmann's out half-sister speaks!
I would have to say, She's not really speaking out about her half sister. I'm kind of Disappointed in this.
Mondo -- I think Salon is trying to drag LaFave into the story. She did not speak out wrt to Bachmann. She just simply spoke.
I have a republican Dad -- his last name is Koch.
They could make a story like this about me. I hope that makes some sense.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/14/2011 15:09:28
John from Ashville
wickedpam on 07/14/2011 15:09:28
John from Ashville
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 15:12:46
What a damn hot mess! 
Raine on 07/14/2011 15:12:46
Quote by wickedpam:
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 15:19:46
Raine on 07/14/2011 15:19:46
You know, I read articles like this from well over 6 months ago, and I get even more angry. It's not like people we not warned. Say what the F you want about Giethner, you tell me he was not wrong:
I am SO effin sick of the media and people has such a short term memory. PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THEY SAY.
(rant over)
"Failure to increase the limit would be deeply irresponsible," Geithner wrote. "For these reasons, I am requesting that Congress act to increase the limit early this year, well before the threat of default becomes imminent."
The letter comes one day after Republicans took control of the House, their membership reinforced with new lawmakers who have vowed to block further borrowing, a top priority of the conservative tea party movement. Newly elected House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) acknowledged Wednesday that default must be avoided, but he said Republicans would demand deep spending cuts and budget reforms in exchange for raising the limit on borrowing.
"The American people will not stand for such an increase unless it is accompanied by meaningful action by the president and Congress to cut spending and end the job-killing spending binge in Washington," Boehner said in a statement. "While America cannot default on its debt, we also cannot continue to borrow recklessly, dig ourselves deeper into this hole and mortgage the future of our children and grandchildren."
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) told reporters that he views the debate over the debt limit as "an opportunity, actually, for us to come together and make some significant strides toward beginning to reduce our spending and debt."
I am SO effin sick of the media and people has such a short term memory. PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THEY SAY.
(rant over)
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 15:41:57
Raine on 07/14/2011 15:41:57
I am damn pissed. The GOP is literally asking for permission to NOT PAY Bills. They are willing to throw the nation into economic chaos so they can be welfare queens.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 15:48:35
Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 15:48:35
Cantor's voice mail boxes are full. He doesn't even provide a way to speak to a human being. Little bitch.
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 15:52:46
Raine on 07/14/2011 15:52:46
You want to see Dickatude? Here:
Mothafuckinsnakesonthehill
: House Speaker John Boehner has told the White House that he doesn't want to go to Camp David to negotiate on the deficit.
"The Speaker has told the White House he sees no need to go to Camp David this weekend," Boehner spokesman Brendan Buck said in an email.
Mothafuckinsnakesonthehill
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 15:53:33
I was able to get thru this morning -- can you fax?
Raine on 07/14/2011 15:53:33
Quote by Mondobubba:
Cantor's voice mail boxes are full. He doesn't even provide a way to speak to a human being. Little bitch.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/14/2011 15:55:49
they just have seem to have now feel for the urgency of the situation they created.
wickedpam on 07/14/2011 15:55:49
Quote by Raine:
You want to see Dickatude? Here:: House Speaker John Boehner has told the White House that he doesn't want to go to Camp David to negotiate on the deficit.
"The Speaker has told the White House he sees no need to go to Camp David this weekend," Boehner spokesman Brendan Buck said in an email.
Mothafuckinsnakesonthehill
they just have seem to have now feel for the urgency of the situation they created.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 15:57:46
No, I'll try his district office when I am at lunch.
Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 15:57:46
Quote by Raine:I was able to get thru this morning -- can you fax?Quote by Mondobubba:
Cantor's voice mail boxes are full. He doesn't even provide a way to speak to a human being. Little bitch.
No, I'll try his district office when I am at lunch.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/14/2011 16:16:07
wickedpam on 07/14/2011 16:16:07
Well tomorrow is my boss' offical last day - I'm happy for her to be able to retire and move to CO but I can't help feeling unsettled
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 16:30:18
Any news for you?
Do you have a new boss, or has anyone said anything?
Raine on 07/14/2011 16:30:18
Quote by wickedpam:
Well tomorrow is my boss' offical last day - I'm happy for her to be able to retire and move to CO but I can't help feeling unsettled
Do you have a new boss, or has anyone said anything?
Comment by TriSec on 07/14/2011 16:44:55
TriSec on 07/14/2011 16:44:55
I'm guessing ol' Ben Franklin had this right a few years ago...
Comment by Scoopster on 07/14/2011 16:48:30
Scoopster on 07/14/2011 16:48:30
Back from the SEO meeting... ugh so mind-numbing. 
Comment by 
livingonli on 07/14/2011 16:49:35
livingonli on 07/14/2011 16:49:35
Good day folks. I think Cantor wants the default to occur since he is betting on it happening and stands to make a ton of money doing so. John Dean's "Conservatives Without Conscience" is now more relevant than ever.
Comment by TriSec on 07/14/2011 17:04:45
That sounds vaguely criminal....when people manipulate the market to profit themselves in the business world, that's called "Insider Trading".
TriSec on 07/14/2011 17:04:45
Quote by livingonli:
Good day folks. I think Cantor wants the default to occur since he is betting on it happening and stands to make a ton of money doing so. John Dean's "Conservatives Without Conscience" is now more relevant than ever.
That sounds vaguely criminal....when people manipulate the market to profit themselves in the business world, that's called "Insider Trading".
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 07/14/2011 17:17:53
trojanrabbit on 07/14/2011 17:17:53
Afternoon all
I've spent the day so far by taking my mother into Boston for some eye surgery (removing scar tissue and straightening folds in her retina) and restoring my dad's PC (hard drive failure). I though the backups we did would work, but though the data is there, I can't just restore the programs. Oh well.
I've spent the day so far by taking my mother into Boston for some eye surgery (removing scar tissue and straightening folds in her retina) and restoring my dad's PC (hard drive failure). I though the backups we did would work, but though the data is there, I can't just restore the programs. Oh well.
Comment by TriSec on 07/14/2011 17:20:23
TriSec on 07/14/2011 17:20:23
Manchester United can suck my prong, BTW.
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 17:22:02
It's totally legal.
Moral? No.
Legal, Yes.
Raine on 07/14/2011 17:22:02
Quote by TriSec:Quote by livingonli:
Good day folks. I think Cantor wants the default to occur since he is betting on it happening and stands to make a ton of money doing so. John Dean's "Conservatives Without Conscience" is now more relevant than ever.
That sounds vaguely criminal....when people manipulate the market to profit themselves in the business world, that's called "Insider Trading".
Moral? No.
Legal, Yes.
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 17:24:09
OH!!!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY RABBIT!
and a good
to boot.
Raine on 07/14/2011 17:24:09
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Afternoon all
I've spent the day so far by taking my mother into Boston for some eye surgery (removing scar tissue and straightening folds in her retina) and restoring my dad's PC (hard drive failure). I though the backups we did would work, but though the data is there, I can't just restore the programs. Oh well.
OH!!!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY RABBIT!
and a good
to boot.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/14/2011 17:35:27
nope don't know anything at this point - I'm sure they'll find someone to fit into the culture of the office instead of us fitting them, I'm just not liking this kind of change.
wickedpam on 07/14/2011 17:35:27
Quote by Raine:Any news for you?Quote by wickedpam:
Well tomorrow is my boss' offical last day - I'm happy for her to be able to retire and move to CO but I can't help feeling unsettled
Do you have a new boss, or has anyone said anything?
nope don't know anything at this point - I'm sure they'll find someone to fit into the culture of the office instead of us fitting them, I'm just not liking this kind of change.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/14/2011 17:37:06
wickedpam on 07/14/2011 17:37:06
So Tri, how did the "Join or Die" emblem get morphed into the Teabagger logo of "Don't tread on me"?
Comment by wickedpam on 07/14/2011 17:37:45
Happy B-Day Rabbit
wickedpam on 07/14/2011 17:37:45
Quote by Raine:Quote by trojanrabbit:
Afternoon all
I've spent the day so far by taking my mother into Boston for some eye surgery (removing scar tissue and straightening folds in her retina) and restoring my dad's PC (hard drive failure). I though the backups we did would work, but though the data is there, I can't just restore the programs. Oh well.
OH!!!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY RABBIT!
and a good
Happy B-Day Rabbit
Comment by livingonli on 07/14/2011 17:40:37
livingonli on 07/14/2011 17:40:37
Another day, another donut. 
Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/14/2011 17:41:26
trojanrabbit on 07/14/2011 17:41:26
Thanks all. I'll toot my own horn that I'm still magically around after 55 years.....
Comment by TriSec on 07/14/2011 17:43:34
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Well, there were some hallucinogenic mushrooms involved, then a sordid evening in a greasy motel with a re-enactor and a musket, but that's all I've heard.
TriSec on 07/14/2011 17:43:34
Quote by wickedpam:
So Tri, how did the "Join or Die" emblem get morphed into the Teabagger logo of "Don't tread on me"?
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Well, there were some hallucinogenic mushrooms involved, then a sordid evening in a greasy motel with a re-enactor and a musket, but that's all I've heard.
Comment by TriSec on 07/14/2011 17:55:49
TriSec on 07/14/2011 17:55:49
Oh, and I curse my command of the English Language.
I have been using "erstwhile" where I meant "mercurial".
I have been using "erstwhile" where I meant "mercurial".
Comment by wickedpam on 07/14/2011 17:56:56
I knew you'd have the dirt
wickedpam on 07/14/2011 17:56:56
Quote by TriSec:Quote by wickedpam:
So Tri, how did the "Join or Die" emblem get morphed into the Teabagger logo of "Don't tread on me"?
-
Well, there were some hallucinogenic mushrooms involved, then a sordid evening in a greasy motel with a re-enactor and a musket, but that's all I've heard.
I knew you'd have the dirt
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 17:57:05
Why? What have the Sith of the EPL done now?
Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 17:57:05
Quote by TriSec:
Manchester United can suck my prong, BTW.
Why? What have the Sith of the EPL done now?
Comment by TriSec on 07/14/2011 18:06:12
TriSec on 07/14/2011 18:06:12
Comment by TriSec on 07/14/2011 18:06:48
Actually, there's two different metaphors in play;
Franklin used the symbolism of a snake unable to survive when it's cut into pieces, or the head is cut off.
The "don't tread on me" thing comes from the Gadsden flag of RI; the snake here being used as a symbol of defiance.
TriSec on 07/14/2011 18:06:48
Quote by wickedpam:
Actually, there's two different metaphors in play;
Franklin used the symbolism of a snake unable to survive when it's cut into pieces, or the head is cut off.
The "don't tread on me" thing comes from the Gadsden flag of RI; the snake here being used as a symbol of defiance.
Comment by TriSec on 07/14/2011 18:10:34
TriSec on 07/14/2011 18:10:34
Oh, and last call...Pack 250 (Waltham) will be here Saturday.
Anyone in proximity, get your tickets and come on down! (Message me here or via FB for phone numbers and contact info; serious inquiries only.)
But it's with the cubbies; I'll likely be in Cubmaster mode all evening.
Anyone in proximity, get your tickets and come on down! (Message me here or via FB for phone numbers and contact info; serious inquiries only.)
But it's with the cubbies; I'll likely be in Cubmaster mode all evening.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/14/2011 18:15:41
Interesting, I have a neighbor, the ice cream truck hater, who flies what I think is a Navy Jack but a bastardized version of it.
I'm just finding now that people who use those flags are all about treading on everyone else so long as they get their way.
wickedpam on 07/14/2011 18:15:41
Quote by TriSec:Quote by wickedpam:
Actually, there's two different metaphors in play;
Franklin used the symbolism of a snake unable to survive when it's cut into pieces, or the head is cut off.
The "don't tread on me" thing comes from the Gadsden flag of RI; the snake here being used as a symbol of defiance.
Interesting, I have a neighbor, the ice cream truck hater, who flies what I think is a Navy Jack but a bastardized version of it.
I'm just finding now that people who use those flags are all about treading on everyone else so long as they get their way.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 18:32:41
No offense, but we are talking an EPL team vs a MLS team. I'd take the worst team in the EPL over an MLS club any day.
Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 18:32:41
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
Why? What have the Sith of the EPL done now?
Man United 4, Revolution 1
No offense, but we are talking an EPL team vs a MLS team. I'd take the worst team in the EPL over an MLS club any day.
Comment by TriSec on 07/14/2011 18:34:53
TriSec on 07/14/2011 18:34:53
The Revs suck this season; it's the principle of the thing.
Freakin' Yankees.
Freakin' Yankees.
Comment by Scoopster on 07/14/2011 18:39:49
Scoopster on 07/14/2011 18:39:49
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 18:41:20
BTW how much were the tickets for the match?
Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 18:41:20
Quote by TriSec:
The Revs suck this season; it's the principle of the thing.
Freakin' Yankees.
BTW how much were the tickets for the match?
Comment by BobR on 07/14/2011 19:10:04
Jane - you ignorant slut!
BobR on 07/14/2011 19:10:04
Quote by Scoopster:
Hey Jane Hamsher.. this "dumb motherfucker" thinks you should go pound sand.
Jane - you ignorant slut!
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 19:12:53
What the hell is she talking about?
Raine on 07/14/2011 19:12:53
Quote by Scoopster:
Hey Jane Hamsher.. this "dumb motherfucker" thinks you should go pound sand.
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 19:17:51
Raine on 07/14/2011 19:17:51
That Biatch bought in-- hook line and sinker to what Cantor was tying to do.
And she attacks people who support the President. She comes off like she is defending Cantor. Fox should hire her.
And she attacks people who support the President. She comes off like she is defending Cantor. Fox should hire her.
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 19:20:31
Raine on 07/14/2011 19:20:31
... and IF you don't agree with me, I suggest you read the comments over on that link -- they are direct agreement with McConnell and Cantor. Welcome to the left and right going so far they meet each other.
Scoop. I appreciate that post.
Scoop. I appreciate that post.
Comment by Scoopster on 07/14/2011 19:24:53
Scoopster on 07/14/2011 19:24:53
Totally welcome m'dear.. I just don't understand or like that whole attitude she (Hamsher) and her followers put out. It's that whole Mark Penn-esqe i-don't-care-if-you're-a-leftie-fuck-you elitist vibe that pissed me off back in '08. The whole thing about her being at the same position as Cantor or McConnell to me is an afterthought.
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 19:30:18
Her post is just offensive. It's divisive, and it is (increasingly as reports come out) untrue.
She puts Shit out there with not a damn flucking Solution.
Raine on 07/14/2011 19:30:18
Quote by Scoopster:
Totally welcome m'dear.. I just don't understand or like that whole attitude she (Hamsher) and her followers put out. It's that whole Mark Penn-esqe i-don't-care-if-you're-a-leftie-fuck-you elitist vibe that pissed me off back in '08. The whole thing about her being at the same position as Cantor or McConnell to me is an afterthought.
Her post is just offensive. It's divisive, and it is (increasingly as reports come out) untrue.
She puts Shit out there with not a damn flucking Solution.
Comment by TriSec on 07/14/2011 19:46:59
Lost Rainbow Toad is re-discovered
Scientists from Universiti Malaysia Sarawak (UNIMAS) found three of the missing long-legged Borneo rainbow toads up a tree during a night time search.
The team had spent months scouring remote mountain forests for the species.
Prior to these images, only illustrations of the toad had existed.
These were drawn from specimens that were collected by European explorers in the 1920s.
Conservation International, which launched its Global Search for Lost Amphibians in 2010, had listed the toad as one of the "world's top 10 most wanted frogs".
Dr Indraneil Das led a team that searched the ridges of the Gunung Penrissen range of Western Sarawak, a boundary between Malaysia's Sarawak State and Indonesia's Kalimantan Barat Province.
After several months of night-long expeditions, one of Dr Das's graduate students eventually spotted a small toad in the high branches of a tree.
TriSec on 07/14/2011 19:46:59
Lost Rainbow Toad is re-discovered
Scientists from Universiti Malaysia Sarawak (UNIMAS) found three of the missing long-legged Borneo rainbow toads up a tree during a night time search.
The team had spent months scouring remote mountain forests for the species.
Prior to these images, only illustrations of the toad had existed.
These were drawn from specimens that were collected by European explorers in the 1920s.
Conservation International, which launched its Global Search for Lost Amphibians in 2010, had listed the toad as one of the "world's top 10 most wanted frogs".
Dr Indraneil Das led a team that searched the ridges of the Gunung Penrissen range of Western Sarawak, a boundary between Malaysia's Sarawak State and Indonesia's Kalimantan Barat Province.
After several months of night-long expeditions, one of Dr Das's graduate students eventually spotted a small toad in the high branches of a tree.
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 20:04:24
Raine on 07/14/2011 20:04:24
Tri, Stop.
-- I am on a Jane Hamsher is a manipulative biatch tear here -- don't give me pretty happy rainbow toads when I am trying to be angry!
AWW... look at the pretty toad....
-- I am on a Jane Hamsher is a manipulative biatch tear here -- don't give me pretty happy rainbow toads when I am trying to be angry!
AWW... look at the pretty toad....
Comment by Scoopster on 07/14/2011 20:05:56
Scoopster on 07/14/2011 20:05:56
ALL GLORY TO THE RAINBOWTOAD 
Comment by Pillar_Strength on 07/14/2011 20:09:20
I know people on Social Security who are VERY upset about the prospect of losing it because of the games that have been being played. It's like an emotional roller coaster ride, first the threat of a shut down and now possibly sending our country into another Great Depression, Where do so many people go? We've all but lost the middle class, and at this rate all of our parks will soon be tent cities. Shame on the GOP. Party First, Country Later. 
I'll leave my rant oh Hamshit for another day.
I'll leave my rant oh Hamshit for another day.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 20:09:38
Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 20:09:38
Called Cantor'... WOW THAT TOAD IS FRAKKIN AMAZING!
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 20:10:54
My brother who's on disabilty is worried. A very dear friend of mine is very worried that her mentally ill son's check won't be coming next month. I could go on...
Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 20:10:54
Quote by Pillar_Strength:
I know people on Social Security who are VERY upset about the prospect of losing it because of the games that have been being played. It's like an emotional roller coaster ride, first the threat of a shut down and now possibly sending our country into another Great Depression, Where do so many people go? We've all but lost the middle class, and at this rate all of our parks will soon be tent cities. Shame on the GOP. Party First, Country Later.
I'll leave my rant oh Hamshit for another day.
My brother who's on disabilty is worried. A very dear friend of mine is very worried that her mentally ill son's check won't be coming next month. I could go on...
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 20:18:01
Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 20:18:01
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 20:45:35
They have every right to be upset, I just hope they understand what is happening here.
Pillar, I do not believe for a minute that the President is playing games, I do believe that some people are not taking this seriously.
It is serious. Deadly serious. If we don't pass this debt ceiling there is no way anyone gets paid. I can totally understand people being nervous and upset. I am too. I would like to see SS around for when I and/or my husband are eligible.
I Wrote about this the other day, it included a really good link that shows the consequences of not raising the ceiling: The first that I posted here is already happening, just on the warning from Moody's.
We don't pass this, then SS is kinda screwn. There will no bank from which to issue those checks.
It's SO nice to see you Pillar!
Raine on 07/14/2011 20:45:35
Quote by Pillar_Strength:
I know people on Social Security who are VERY upset about the prospect of losing it because of the games that have been being played. It's like an emotional roller coaster ride, first the threat of a shut down and now possibly sending our country into another Great Depression, Where do so many people go? We've all but lost the middle class, and at this rate all of our parks will soon be tent cities. Shame on the GOP. Party First, Country Later.
I'll leave my rant oh Hamshit for another day.
Pillar, I do not believe for a minute that the President is playing games, I do believe that some people are not taking this seriously.
It is serious. Deadly serious. If we don't pass this debt ceiling there is no way anyone gets paid. I can totally understand people being nervous and upset. I am too. I would like to see SS around for when I and/or my husband are eligible.
I Wrote about this the other day, it included a really good link that shows the consequences of not raising the ceiling:
Treasury Bonds Collapse - If the government defaults on its debt, economists say that prices for Treasury bonds would collapse and interest rates would probably soar to record highs. The centrist Democratic think tank Third Way estimates that the bond rate increases alone would eliminate nearly 650,000 jobs in the United States.
Cut Medicare and Social Security - To reduce spending by $125 billion a month, the government would have to make deep cuts to the two giant entitlement programs for the elderly, Medicare and Social Security.
We don't pass this, then SS is kinda screwn. There will no bank from which to issue those checks.
It's SO nice to see you Pillar!
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 20:53:05
Raine on 07/14/2011 20:53:05
The fear that people are feeling goes to EXACTLY what the GOP is trying to to -- They want people to be afraid. They want them to to let fear take over ---
All I want, and I mean this quite seriously, is for people to be informed. I have a mother who is on SS and medicare -- she cares for my grandmother -- who is on both as well. I have my Parents in law who are in the same situation...
I just want them to not succumb to the fear tactics of the GOP. That's hard, they are not political. All they know is what they see on TV.
All I want, and I mean this quite seriously, is for people to be informed. I have a mother who is on SS and medicare -- she cares for my grandmother -- who is on both as well. I have my Parents in law who are in the same situation...
I just want them to not succumb to the fear tactics of the GOP. That's hard, they are not political. All they know is what they see on TV.
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 21:00:28
Raine on 07/14/2011 21:00:28
Ok, back to Hamsher.
I am damn pissed. WE have enough to deal with the BULLSHIT from the right, Why do we have to extend such energy to this shit?
Oh wait -- it's divided and conquer, right? I can tell you this -- THIS blog will NEVER take a penny from advertising thru her company or PAY a penny for the honor of using her marketing company...
I am not kidding. Tri and Bob, I am not.
I am damn pissed. WE have enough to deal with the BULLSHIT from the right, Why do we have to extend such energy to this shit?
Oh wait -- it's divided and conquer, right? I can tell you this -- THIS blog will NEVER take a penny from advertising thru her company or PAY a penny for the honor of using her marketing company...
I am not kidding. Tri and Bob, I am not.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 21:06:21
Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 21:06:21
When I called Cantor's office, it took all of my self control to remain calm, not hurl invective or resort to name calling. It was hard work, really hard work. In the end it paid off.
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 21:07:03
Did you leave that as a message?
Raine on 07/14/2011 21:07:03
Quote by Mondobubba:
Called Cantor'... WOW THAT TOAD IS FRAKKIN AMAZING!
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 21:09:23
I called this morning, I was nice and polite.
I told the girl to please extend to Mr. Cantor my concern that we need to put the country first and raise the debt ceiling. Partisan politics has a place, and this is not the time for this.
Raine on 07/14/2011 21:09:23
Quote by Mondobubba:
When I called Cantor's office, it took all of my self control to remain calm, not hurl invective or resort to name calling. It was hard work, really hard work. In the end it paid off.
I told the girl to please extend to Mr. Cantor my concern that we need to put the country first and raise the debt ceiling. Partisan politics has a place, and this is not the time for this.
Comment by livingonli on 07/14/2011 21:26:25
livingonli on 07/14/2011 21:26:25
If I called Cantor, I would be tempted to point out that I know he's going to make a killing if we default so I can't be so genteel. Everything the GOP-teabaggers are doing reminds me why I was so pissed off during the Bush years.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 21:34:31
Pretty much what I said. There is a time and place for partisanship, but this is not one of them.
Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 21:34:31
Quote by Raine:I called this morning, I was nice and polite.Quote by Mondobubba:
When I called Cantor's office, it took all of my self control to remain calm, not hurl invective or resort to name calling. It was hard work, really hard work. In the end it paid off.
I told the girl to please extend to Mr. Cantor my concern that we need to put the country first and raise the debt ceiling. Partisan politics has a place, and this is not the time for this.
Pretty much what I said. There is a time and place for partisanship, but this is not one of them.
Comment by BobR on 07/14/2011 21:38:52
fine by me.
BobR on 07/14/2011 21:38:52
Quote by Raine:
Ok, back to Hamsher.
I am damn pissed. WE have enough to deal with the BULLSHIT from the right, Why do we have to extend such energy to this shit?
Oh wait -- it's divided and conquer, right? I can tell you this -- THIS blog will NEVER take a penny from advertising thru her company or PAY a penny for the honor of using her marketing company...
I am not kidding. Tri and Bob, I am not.
fine by me.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 21:42:42
Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 21:42:42
Quote by Raine:Did you leave that as a message?Quote by Mondobubba:
Called Cantor'... WOW THAT TOAD IS FRAKKIN AMAZING!
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 21:48:40
Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 21:48:40
As usual, Andrew Leonard says something intelligent.
My favorite quote: "Oh no! Was the president mean to you, Eric? Did he hurt your feelings? Maybe you should blow up the economy to make yourself feel better."
My favorite quote: "Oh no! Was the president mean to you, Eric? Did he hurt your feelings? Maybe you should blow up the economy to make yourself feel better."
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 22:03:20
Raine on 07/14/2011 22:03:20
Oh look. Jane Hamsher good friend Grover.
My blood is boiling. am supposed to be on Funked in the head tonite. I don;t know if shane really wants me to be there.
At the heart of the contentious talks between the White House and congressional Republicans on whether to raise the debt ceiling is a simple, one-sentence document many conservative lawmakers have signed, pledging not to increase taxes.
Ever.
"I _____ pledge to the taxpayers of the state of _____ and all the people of this state, that I will oppose and vote against all efforts to increase taxes," reads the version of the pledge signed by Republican lawmakers.
My blood is boiling. am supposed to be on Funked in the head tonite. I don;t know if shane really wants me to be there.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/14/2011 22:08:19
Why not? I'm sure he feels the same way, but no one can make their feelings known like you.
trojanrabbit on 07/14/2011 22:08:19
Quote by Raine:
Oh look. Jane Hamsher good friend Grover.At the heart of the contentious talks between the White House and congressional Republicans on whether to raise the debt ceiling is a simple, one-sentence document many conservative lawmakers have signed, pledging not to increase taxes.
Ever.
"I _____ pledge to the taxpayers of the state of _____ and all the people of this state, that I will oppose and vote against all efforts to increase taxes," reads the version of the pledge signed by Republican lawmakers.
My blood is boiling. am supposed to be on Funked in the head tonite. I don;t know if shane really wants me to be there.
Why not? I'm sure he feels the same way, but no one can make their feelings known like you.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 22:19:00
Oh I knew that that tubby little bitch's Funion grease covered finger prints were all over the debt limit issue. When we all go Les Miserebles on DC he is going to be one of those Republicans who is not going to do well with the giant mob wilding through the streets of DC.
Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 22:19:00
Quote by Raine:
Oh look. Jane Hamsher good friend Grover.At the heart of the contentious talks between the White House and congressional Republicans on whether to raise the debt ceiling is a simple, one-sentence document many conservative lawmakers have signed, pledging not to increase taxes.
Ever.
"I _____ pledge to the taxpayers of the state of _____ and all the people of this state, that I will oppose and vote against all efforts to increase taxes," reads the version of the pledge signed by Republican lawmakers.
My blood is boiling. am supposed to be on Funked in the head tonite. I don;t know if shane really wants me to be there.
Oh I knew that that tubby little bitch's Funion grease covered finger prints were all over the debt limit issue. When we all go Les Miserebles on DC he is going to be one of those Republicans who is not going to do well with the giant mob wilding through the streets of DC.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 22:20:21
Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 22:20:21
On a lighter note, who's heard that they are going to do a remake of "Evil Dead?"
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 22:26:33
Isn't that also known as Election 2012? 
Raine on 07/14/2011 22:26:33
Quote by Mondobubba:
On a lighter note, who's heard that they are going to do a remake of "Evil Dead?"
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 22:29:37
Could be, but Sam Rami is hiring Diablo Cody to rewrite the script.
Mondobubba on 07/14/2011 22:29:37
Quote by Raine:Isn't that also known as Election 2012?Quote by Mondobubba:
On a lighter note, who's heard that they are going to do a remake of "Evil Dead?"
Could be, but Sam Rami is hiring Diablo Cody to rewrite the script.
Comment by livingonli on 07/14/2011 22:46:14
Has Hollywood just decided to stop making new movies? Whenever I see that they are now remaking movies form the 70's and 80's where you can't even use the lame excuse about the original being in black and white. I think Romero remade Night of the Living Dead only because the original film fell into public domain.
livingonli on 07/14/2011 22:46:14
Quote by Mondobubba:
On a lighter note, who's heard that they are going to do a remake of "Evil Dead?"
Has Hollywood just decided to stop making new movies? Whenever I see that they are now remaking movies form the 70's and 80's where you can't even use the lame excuse about the original being in black and white. I think Romero remade Night of the Living Dead only because the original film fell into public domain.
Comment by Raine on 07/14/2011 22:57:45
I gotta agree with Liv on this one.
Raine on 07/14/2011 22:57:45
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Mondobubba:
On a lighter note, who's heard that they are going to do a remake of "Evil Dead?"
Has Hollywood just decided to stop making new movies? Whenever I see that they are now remaking movies form the 70's and 80's where you can't even use the lame excuse about the original being in black and white. I think Romero remade Night of the Living Dead only because the original film fell into public domain.
Comment by livingonli on 07/15/2011 01:24:31
livingonli on 07/15/2011 01:24:31
While driving back from Five Guys, listening to MSNBC on XM and they ran a Glenn Beck commercial for Goldline. 
