The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any state by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.
Republican Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker's administration is moving forward with a plan that would close as many as 10 driver's license offices only months before a new law will require voters to present a photo ID before casting a ballot.
On May 25, Walker signed the voter photo ID bill which mandates voters present a driver's license, state ID, military ID, passport, naturalization papers or tribal ID before casting their ballots.
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Democratic Wisconsin state Rep. Andy Jorgensen told The Associated Press that Walker appeared to be targeting Democratic districts with his decision to shut down 10 Department of Motor Vehicle (DMV) offices.
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But Walker's administration has denied the decision was political, saying the closures were part of an effort to expand operating hours at other DMV offices.
The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied, abridged, or hampered by the United States or any state for any reason.
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This is a good chart about voter ID requirements all around the country.
State Attorney General Bob Cooper has issued a legal opinion that a Republican-led effort to require photo identification to vote would violate the Tennessee and U.S. constitutions.
Cooper said in the opinion released Wednesday that without a provision to supply voters with free ID cards, the measure "unduly burdens the right to vote" and would constitute a poll tax.
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and over in Tennessee (this is from April so I am looking to what has transpired there)State Attorney General Bob Cooper has issued a legal opinion that a Republican-led effort to require photo identification to vote would violate the Tennessee and U.S. constitutions.
Cooper said in the opinion released Wednesday that without a provision to supply voters with free ID cards, the measure "unduly burdens the right to vote" and would constitute a poll tax.
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See now, I've never had to show any kind of ID whatsoever, either to register, vote, or even as a candidate to pull or submit nomination papers.
However, in this state there's a persistent rumor that the Jury Pool comes from the voter rolls; I know a significant number of people that have never registered to vote because they don't want to serve on a jury.
Completely false, btw.
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and over in Tennessee (this is from April so I am looking to what has transpired there)State Attorney General Bob Cooper has issued a legal opinion that a Republican-led effort to require photo identification to vote would violate the Tennessee and U.S. constitutions.
Cooper said in the opinion released Wednesday that without a provision to supply voters with free ID cards, the measure "unduly burdens the right to vote" and would constitute a poll tax.
Even if they're free (and they generally are), there's still the burden of getting one.
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Sad and excellent Blog, Bobber.
It's a lot like Abortion clinics -- they are legal, but States can prevent new ones from Opening up. People in the NE are by and large lucky that they can go to one, but imagine living in Kansas, for example. If a poor woman has to drive across state, and then is told to wait 2 days, That is 2 days at a motel, and quite possibly 3 or more days she won;t get paid at her job. (If she's not fired)
This is what these republicans do -- the disenfranchise people from having access to their rights as citizens-- These rights are easy to access if you have money. What happens to the people that can't drive? the people that have low paying jobs in Wisconsin -- that is why this is essentially a poll tax.
U.S. Olympic medalist skier commits suicide
Olympic silver medalist Jeret "Speedy" Peterson was found dead in a remote canyon in Utah in what police are calling a suicide.
Peterson, a freestyle skier who patented the so-called "Hurricane" and took second place at the Vancouver Games with it, called 911 before shooting himself, police said. The 29-year-old had been cited for drunken driving Friday in Hailey, Idaho and had pleaded not guilty.
According to the Washington Post, Rep. Allen West (R-FL) replied “I’m ready to drive the car.â€
In the movie, the characters then put on hockey masks and bludgeon two men with sticks, then shoot one man in the leg.
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Would it be fair to say that the 24th Amendment actually overrules the 10th? I mean I was pretty sure that before the 24th -- it was the 10th that states used to create poll taxes. I thought the 24th was meant to rectify that.
Therefore, I submit that there is no change needed, I think these new ID laws are not constitutional. I know SCOTUS said photo ID laws are ok, (Indiana '08) but these laws are becoming more and more restrictive. That case in Indiana imo was poorly argued.
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They are disgusting, They really are, horrible wretched people.
According to the Washington Post, Rep. Allen West (R-FL) replied “I’m ready to drive the car.â€
In the movie, the characters then put on hockey masks and bludgeon two men with sticks, then shoot one man in the leg.
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He itsh Gary Gygax'ish birthday! Basement dwelling nerds are huffing on their inhalers in tribute, and the calling out, "Maaaaaammmmmmmmmm! Howsh that birthday cake for Gary coming?!" Then they are dipping their orange stained fingers into a family sized bag of Cheetoes.
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Would it be fair to say that the 24th Amendment actually overrules the 10th? I mean I was pretty sure that before the 24th -- it was the 10th that states used to create poll taxes. I thought the 24th was meant to rectify that.
Therefore, I submit that there is no change needed, I think these new ID laws are not constitutional. I know SCOTUS said photo ID laws are ok, (Indiana '08) but these laws are becoming more and more restrictive. That case in Indiana imo was poorly argued.
If the SCOTUS says ID laws are Constitutional, then the updated amendment is needed.
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He itsh Gary Gygax'ish birthday! Basement dwelling nerds are huffing on their inhalers in tribute, and the calling out, "Maaaaaammmmmmmmmm! Howsh that birthday cake for Gary coming?!" Then they are dipping their orange stained fingers into a family sized bag of Cheetoes.
I actually met Gary Gygax a few times, and found him to be a pretty friendly guy.
Contrary to the stereotype, a lot of successful and socially active people play role playing games. Of course, if we want stereotypes, we can always talk sports fans.
Quote by Will in Chicago:Quote by Mondobubba:
He itsh Gary Gygax'ish birthday! Basement dwelling nerds are huffing on their inhalers in tribute, and the calling out, "Maaaaaammmmmmmmmm! Howsh that birthday cake for Gary coming?!" Then they are dipping their orange stained fingers into a family sized bag of Cheetoes.
I actually met Gary Gygax a few times, and found him to be a pretty friendly guy.
Contrary to the stereotype, a lot of successful and socially active people play role playing games. Of course, if we want stereotypes, we can always talk sports fans.
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He itsh Gary Gygax'ish birthday! Basement dwelling nerds are huffing on their inhalers in tribute, and the calling out, "Maaaaaammmmmmmmmm! Howsh that birthday cake for Gary coming?!" Then they are dipping their orange stained fingers into a family sized bag of Cheetoes.
I actually met Gary Gygax a few times, and found him to be a pretty friendly guy.
Contrary to the stereotype, a lot of successful and socially active people play role playing games. Of course, if we want stereotypes, we can always talk sports fans.![]()
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Hi Will!
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Is it me, or do we have a community of people in this country who fear being contradicted by the facts above all else?
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There's certainly an insult to Red Sox Nation somewhere in there.
< froths at mouth, insults Yankees and pink-hatters >
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There's certainly an insult to Red Sox Nation somewhere in there.
< froths at mouth, insults Yankees and pink-hatters >
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Dave_von_Ebers David von Ebers
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@PROTIPZ It’s a conundrum, that’s for sure.
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PROTIPZ The REAL K✔
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@Dave_von_Ebers Again. My point. My point is that I don't think the 14th amendment solution is a solution at all
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Dave_von_Ebers David von Ebers
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@PROTIPZ Not sure how anyone would have standing to sue to enjoin default before it occurs.
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Dave_von_Ebers David von Ebers
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@PROTIPZ Maybe, but of course it would be too late to prevent the harm of a default.
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@Dave_von_Ebers Exactly, and how do you do that? Default on the debt I guess and sue... uh... who exactly?
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Dave_von_Ebers David von Ebers
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@PROTIPZ So there would have to be someone with legal standing to bring a claim against the federal government …
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Dave_von_Ebers David von Ebers
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@PROTIPZ The only way to do that is to have an actual “case or controversy†– the Supreme Court doesn’t give advisory opinions.
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@Dave_von_Ebers BUt as you say, how do you pull that off. And even if they do you still have to force GOP to actually cut the checks.
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@Dave_von_Ebers The only thing I could possibly imagine is to some how get SCOTUS to rule on the constitutionality of the Debt ceiling
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@Dave_von_Ebers But back to the so-called 14th amendment solution, I don't think there's anything you can do...
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Dave_von_Ebers David von Ebers
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@PROTIPZ Truth.
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As @Dave_von_Ebers points out, the 14th am was written with a context davescornertavern.blogspot.com/2011/07/why-im… as were many others.
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@Dave_von_Ebers I know. I know. We're in a situation where the constitution isn't adequate, but we aren't mature enough to repair it.
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@PROTIPZ Maybe so, but I fear for what might happen if we did. I could see people saying who needs 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th Amendments ...
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@Dave_von_Ebers Unfortunately at this time in this place I'm terrified of who would write it right now.
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@Dave_von_Ebers But, yeah, yet again I find myself thinking we are in need of rewriting the constitution. It just seems inadequate
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Dave_von_Ebers David von Ebers
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@PROTIPZ That’s the question. I don’t know the answer.
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PROTIPZ The REAL K✔
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@Dave_von_Ebers I guess you keep spending regardless, but even then it comes down to the House holding the purse strings, doesn't it?
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@Dave_von_Ebers Ah, right. I see that, but at the same time, I just.. How? How do you just pretend it's not there any more?
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@Dave_von_Ebers Of course, this brings me to a drastic solution that Jefferson championed in his day; rewrite the constitution.
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Dave_von_Ebers David von Ebers
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@PROTIPZ Real argument is that the debt ceiling itself is unconstitutional under Section 4, but there’s no good way to get a court ruling.
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@Dave_von_Ebers And I don't think the POTUS can necessarily act on 14th without violating other parts of the constitution.
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@PROTIPZ Right. The “solution†would be for the Pres. to ignore the debt ceiling, relying on Section 4.
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@Dave_von_Ebers The 14th amendment, read without interpretation, doesn't give any branch of government special power to act. It just IS.
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@Dave_von_Ebers Here's my problem with a 14th amendment solution; it doesn't provide a vehicle, just a standard.
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Does anyone remember Bunnatine "Bunny" Greenhouse? Her case is finally over.
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Only thing is the Chicago teams still get national exposure on WGN since it is the only superstation still showing baseball to a national audience still TBS relinquished the Braves to get that new MLB deal. Since WSBK, KWGN, and KTLA no longer have baseball deals, the only superstations still showing baseball are WWOR and WPIX here in New York and most of their national exposure is on Dish Network although WPIX is widely carried on Canadian cable and satellite.
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Only thing is the Chicago teams still get national exposure on WGN since it is the only superstation still showing baseball to a national audience still TBS relinquished the Braves to get that new MLB deal. Since WSBK, KWGN, and KTLA no longer have baseball deals, the only superstations still showing baseball are WWOR and WPIX here in New York and most of their national exposure is on Dish Network although WPIX is widely carried on Canadian cable and satellite.
Many of the superstations no longer seem to have any local presence. I would have no idea that TBS comes out of Atlanta as it now stands.
I suppose the national exposure helps the Cubs and the Sox, but it is a shame for baseball fans that it is harder to watch their games.
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They are disgusting, They really are, horrible wretched people.
According to the Washington Post, Rep. Allen West (R-FL) replied “I’m ready to drive the car.â€Â
In the movie, the characters then put on hockey masks and bludgeon two men with sticks, then shoot one man in the leg.
THIS is Eric Cantor.