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Aww darn it. Perry's out? The freaksho I mean GOP debate just got a whole less crazy then. If it just Gingrich, Romney, Santorum and Paul it'll just be mean.

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Isn't it Santorum the stuff Romney uses to slick his hair back?

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Morning, comrades! You got your Santorum all over my Romney!

Isn't it Santorum the stuff Romney uses to slick his hair back?

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Changing gears briefly, did we all hear about the Iranian film that's been winning all the international awards? It won best foreign film at the Golden Globes, and there's rumours that it will place well at the Oscars, too.

Best to seek shelter now, there's sure to be a lot of exploding heads about.

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Morning, comrades! You got your Santorum all over my Romney!

Isn't it Santorum the stuff Romney uses to slick his hair back?

No - that smell is just his breath

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...endorse Santorum.

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Merle HAggard appears to have passed away.

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This is UNCONFIRMED.

I'm looking for more information.

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Merle HAggard appears to have passed away.

This is UNCONFIRMED.

I'm looking for more information.

CBS news from 34 mins ago, Merle has pneumonia, cancels January tour dates

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Newt asked for an OPEN MARRIAGE????

Whatta pig!

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"He came to her and said, 'I want to stay married to you and still have an affair with Calista, his current wife," said Ross. "According to Marianne, he said 'You need to share me,' and she said 'I don't want to share,' and the marriage ended," he added.

Ross told WMAL that ABC News had been trying to land the interview with Marianne Gingrich off-and-on since November, and that she finally agreed to sit down with him last Friday here in Washington.

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One thing I've never understood....why do all Republican wives look like artificial constructs, and Democratic ones seem to be actual people?

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I'm sorry -- but I am stunned about these allegations -- I know I shouldn't be surprised -- but I am.

This is just really horrible to me.

File under "Totally missing the point".

Newt, you want to have sex with other women, why get married in the first place? Or is it because in our parochial, uptight, society...our leaders are *required* to have wives, no matter how many?

Could James Buchanan even be elected today? (not speaking policy-wise.)

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One thing I've never understood....why do all Republican wives look like artificial constructs, and Democratic ones seem to be actual people?

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Newt asked for an OPEN MARRIAGE????

Whatta pig!

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"He came to her and said, 'I want to stay married to you and still have an affair with Calista, his current wife," said Ross. "According to Marianne, he said 'You need to share me,' and she said 'I don't want to share,' and the marriage ended," he added.

Ross told WMAL that ABC News had been trying to land the interview with Marianne Gingrich off-and-on since November, and that she finally agreed to sit down with him last Friday here in Washington.

eewwww - I just don't get the appeal

She said when Gingrich admitted to a six-year affair with a Congressional aide, he asked her if she would share him with the other woman, Callista, who is now married to Gingrich.

"And I just stared at him and he said, 'Callista doesn't care what I do,'" Marianne Gingrich told ABC News. "He wanted an open marriage and I refused."

Marianne described her "shock" at Gingrich's behavior, including how she says she learned he conducted his affair with Callista "in my bedroom in our apartment in Washington."

Rep. Maurice Hinchey's wife arrested by Albany PD on DWI charges last night. Hinchey to announce he will retire after this term.

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An Armenian? I suspect the Kardashians

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Hmmm-- caller on Thom just now raised a very interesting question. If Mitt's dad was born in Mexico, (according to Wiki: (George)Romney was born to American parents in the Mormon colonies in Mexico; events during the Mexican Revolution forced his family to flee back to the United States when he was a child. ) how was he able to run for President at all?

I'm not trying to go birther here, I'm sure there is a legitimate explanation. Were these Mexican Colonies at the time considered somewhat American?

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There's that bit of gray there....George Romney born abroad to American parents. Don't rightly know what the rules are concerning that; at the very least, he should qualify for dual citizenship.

In our case, young Javi could never be President. Although he became a citizen when the adoption was finalized, he was born outside the US to non-citizen parents. So I believe the Constitution does not allow for that.

(Side note...before Arnold imploded, one of the things he was working on was a constitutional amendment to allow naturalized citizens to run for President. Something I would support, BTW.)

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I do know someone who was born in New York and has dual US-Canadian citizenship since her father was Canadian and she lived in Montreal and Toronto for a number of years before coming back to the US in more recent times.

Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution sets the principal qualifications one must meet to be eligible to the office of president. A president must:
be a natural born citizen of the United States;[61]
be at least thirty-five years old;
have been a permanent resident in the United States for at least fourteen years.

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I do know someone who was born in New York and has dual US-Canadian citizenship since her father was Canadian and she lived in Montreal and Toronto for a number of years before coming back to the US in more recent times.

But what if that person was born in Canada with American parents?

I'm asking this because I am looking for a VERY specific terminology for natural born citizen. According to the constitution:

Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution sets the principal qualifications one must meet to be eligible to the office of president. A president must:
be a natural born citizen of the United States;[61]
be at least thirty-five years old;
have been a permanent resident in the United States for at least fourteen years.

This is where I get -- honestly, confused.

Now, the reason why I am asking this is due to the NATURE that George Romney's Parents left the United States.

What specifically makes one a naturalized citizen as opposed to a natural citizen?

... the children of United States citizens born abroad, and those born abroad of one citizen parent who has met U.S. residency requirements

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That would seem to cover President Obama, even if he WASN'T born in the U.S., as well as McCain. Not sure about Romney - I'm still confused as to his parent's status and where he was born.

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That would seem to cover President Obama, even if he WASN'T born in the U.S., as well as McCain. Not sure about Romney - I'm still confused as to his parent's status and where he was born.

I'm confused about this as well. Romneys Grandparents were in Mexico. They gave birth to his father (george) in Mexico.

Does that mean that Mitt's dad had a dual citizenship?

(I really appreciate all the help, everyone!)

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That would seem to cover President Obama, even if he WASN'T born in the U.S., as well as McCain. Not sure about Romney - I'm still confused as to his parent's status and where he was born.

I'm confused about this as well. Romneys Grandparents were in Mexico. They gave birth to his father (george) in Mexico.

Does that mean that Mitt's dad had a dual citizenship?

(I really appreciate all the help, everyone!)

Remember, not every country has birthright citizenship like the US. The reason we have it is to correct the wrong of the Dred Scott decsion

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How far back??

(George) Romney's grandparents were polygamous Mormons who fled the United States with their children because of the federal government's opposition to polygamy. His maternal grandfather was Helaman Pratt (1846–1909), who presided over the Mormon mission in Mexico City before moving to the state of Chihuahua and who was the son of original Mormon apostle Parley P. Pratt (1807–1857)
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(George) Romney's parents were American citizens Gaskell Romney (1871–1955) and Anna Amelia Pratt (1876–1926); natives of Utah, they married in 1895 in Mexico and lived in Colonia Dublán, Galeana, in the Mexican state of Chihuahua (one of the Mormon colonies in Mexico) where George was born on July 8, 1907. They practiced monogamy. George had three older brothers, two younger brothers, and a younger sister. Gaskell Romney was a successful carpenter, house builder, and farmer who headed the most prosperous family in the colony.