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Deja Vu All Over Again
Author: BobR    Date: 03/14/2008 12:29:26

The great Yogi Berra uttered the famous phrase "it's like Deja Vu all over again" when discussing Roger Maris and Mickie Mantle hitting home run after home run. It's hard to look at the Iraq war and remember Viet Nam and not think the same thing. The wasted lives, the wasted money, burning the village to save it, the inability to get out of it despite its unpopularity.

Looking back on how we got into this war in the first place, are we experiencing another case of "deja vu"? How likely is it we'll start another war - this time with Iran?

Pretty likely, based on certain observations. Writer Dave Lindorf refers to it as the Oh Shit Moment:
Every horror movie has that “Oh Shit!” moment, when the hero or heroes are huddled in some creepy hideout, and suddenly something happens that tells you that the monster is just around the corner, or just about to attack. In “Jurassic Park” it was the pulsing ripples in a cup of water, heralding the arrival of a T-Rex. In “Jaws” it was the deep bass music, letting you know that a monstrous shark was about to attack.

Well, we just got our “Oh Shit!” moment with the just-announced resignation of Admiral William J. Fallon, the military commander of US Middle East operations.

Adm. Fallon, 63, famously said that an attack on Iran would not happen “on my watch,” and is widely believed to have already threatened, along with a number of other top generals and admirals, to quit the service if the Bush administration were to launch an air attack on Iran.

There are numerous other indicators that we are on the precipice, gazing down into the abyss, and waiting for that inexorable tip that will begin our descent. Terry Atlas at U.S. News & World Report points out 6 Signs the U.S. May Be Headed for War in Iran. Some of them are a bit of a reach, but you can read the article yourself. Briefly, they are:
1. Fallon's resignation
2. Vice President Cheney's peace trip
3. Israeli airstrike on Syria
4. Warships off Lebanon
5. Israeli comments
6.Israel's war with Hezbollah

Fallon's resignation reminds me of the revolving door of generals we had during the lead up to the war with Iraq. Anyone that didn't toe the line, both in ideology and support for the poor military planning was "retired". Remember General Shinseki?

Then there was the trumped up "evidence" of WMD. Despite an intelligence report to the contrary, Iran is still being accused of developing nuclear weapons. Last time the Bush Administration used manipulated intelligence and this time Bush is just ignoring it.

Here are some more "rememberies" from the early days of the Iraq war. How often do you still see the mainstream news "report" (or should I say "repeat") the propaganda coming out of the White House as if it's all credible fact?

Bush sees the authorization to use force in Iraq as carte blanche to use force anywhere in the world at his discretion, including in Iran. We can see the signs - it's like deja vu all over again. This war, however, needs to be stopped before it gets started.

 

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Comment by starling310 on 03/14/2008 13:12:32
Bobber.



Good morning.



Before the LOST updates begin, I would just like to say :: larry craig :: "I HAVE NOT SEEN LOST. I LOVE MY WIFE."

Comment by m-hadley on 03/14/2008 13:17:02
Mornin' Everybody,

Great but scary post BobR...I hope like hell that we are not headed for a show-down with Iran, but I don't trust the Bush/Cheney administration as far as I could throw them. I've written umpteen e-mails, snail mail letters, and have stood out on the sidewalk holding up peace signs and getting flipped off by ignorant Okies. I don't want another war, but I feel powerless to stop it - HELP! Any suggestions on what we can do to stop another senseless war would be much appreciated...

Cheers & Happy Friday :)

mfaye

Comment by Raine on 03/14/2008 13:56:26
Good morning.



Gah. I feel a little like you faye, but I am hoping that the way this country has been moving, wth more and more people dissastified with what is being done in our name, more will start writing letters and making those phone calls.



Remember that NExt wednesday is the 5th Anniversary of our illegal invasion, we HAVE to get the word outto people and get them in the streets!!!







Comment by livingonli on 03/14/2008 14:06:01
Good morning everyone.



It feels like that kind of morning.



When discussing Cheney and peace shouldn't "peace" be in quote marks?

Comment by starling310 on 03/14/2008 14:08:36
Quote by Raine:

Good morning.



Gah. I feel a little like you faye, but I am hoping that the way this country has been moving, wth more and more people dissastified with what is being done in our name, more will start writing letters and making those phone calls.



Remember that NExt wednesday is the 5th Anniversary of our illegal invasion, we HAVE to get the word outto people and get them in the streets!!!









I thought it was 6 years.



Comment by starling310 on 03/14/2008 14:09:07
<------------ Opening Night jitters!

Comment by Raine on 03/14/2008 14:10:08
Comment by wickedpam on 03/14/2008 14:10:10
Morning :hug:

Comment by starling310 on 03/14/2008 14:12:23
: frangela : "body rock!



These 2 crack me up. They just ramble funny sh*t!

Comment by starling310 on 03/14/2008 14:13:15
Hey Mala! :hug:

Comment by livingonli on 03/14/2008 14:13:27
Quote by starling310:

<------------ Opening Night jitters!


:hug:



And good morning, Mala.

Comment by Raine on 03/14/2008 14:14:14
From thelink:
In less than a week, we will be marking the 5th anniversary of the Iraq War. As we take action in Washington DC, and in communities in every corner of the country, on March 19th, the 6th year of death and destruction will begin.



It's hard to believe, impossible to accept.


Comment by starling310 on 03/14/2008 14:14:31
Frances must have kicked a** at Improv!



Comment by starling310 on 03/14/2008 14:15:49
Quote by Raine:

From thelink:
In less than a week, we will be marking the 5th anniversary of the Iraq War. As we take action in Washington DC, and in communities in every corner of the country, on March 19th, the 6th year of death and destruction will begin.



It's hard to believe, impossible to accept.




Huh...why the hell was I thinking 6. I thought it was 2002. I am a bit slow.



:: joe biden :: yes

Comment by Raine on 03/14/2008 14:15:55
Quote by starling310:

<------------ Opening Night jitters!
already? It seems like just yesterday you were trying out! Is this the british play?



Comment by starling310 on 03/14/2008 14:18:33
Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

<------------ Opening Night jitters!
already? It seems like just yesterday you were trying out! Is this the british play?





Nope. That play ended in November.



This is Fatal Attraction: A Greek Tragedy. ( This isn't our site, BTW )

I am playing Anne Archer.





Comment by wickedpam on 03/14/2008 14:19:47
Hey Star, Liv, everyone!





Break a leg Star! YOu'll be great!

Comment by Mondobubba on 03/14/2008 14:19:47
Morning all! :saunters in grabs organic bagel:

Comment by livingonli on 03/14/2008 14:21:17
Quote by starling310:

Quote by Raine:

From thelink:
In less than a week, we will be marking the 5th anniversary of the Iraq War. As we take action in Washington DC, and in communities in every corner of the country, on March 19th, the 6th year of death and destruction will begin.



It's hard to believe, impossible to accept.




Huh...why the hell was I thinking 6. I thought it was 2002. I am a bit slow.



:: joe biden :: yes






I remember protesting before the war when I stood out in the freezing cold of NYC back in February, 2003 when Bloomberg had the cops herding us like cattle making it impossible to reach the main demonstration.

Comment by livingonli on 03/14/2008 14:21:37
Good morning Mondo.

Comment by BobR on 03/14/2008 14:21:49
Quote by starling310:

Bobber.



Good morning.



Before the LOST updates begin, I would just like to say :: larry craig :: "I HAVE NOT SEEN LOST. I LOVE MY WIFE."


Raine and I haven't watched it yet either (last night was movie night).



SO NO SPOILERS!!

Comment by Raine on 03/14/2008 14:21:58
OMG! From the New Haven Advocate (Just the image is worth it...)



http://www.newhavenadvocate.com/sortable/image/ADVONH20080313N1.jpg


Hillary Rodham Clinton, Will You Please Go Now!

The time has come, we don't care how. But Hillary Rodham Clinton will you please go now!


By The Editors, Paul Heriot Illustration



The time has come, We don't care how.

But Hillary Rodham Clinton

Will you please GO NOW!



Your campaign is becoming

An endless charade,

So get off the trail,

Burn out now, don't just fade.



You can swim down a river

Of crocodile tears.

You can surf on a wave

Of terrorist fears.



Enough with the red phone!

Enough with the NAFTA!

If you like,

You can go now by White Water Rafta.



Hillary Rodham Clinton,

We don't care how—

HRC,

Will you please GO NOW!



You can leave on McCain's

Straight Talk Express.

You can leave all made up

in a Muslim headdress.



Kucinich will take you

On his UFO

But good God, dear Hillary

Just go go, GO!



You can ride home on coattails

Or in big biz's pocket.

Or maybe you'd like to

Ride NASA's new rocket.



You've raised a gazillion

From execs on Wall Street.

But when it comes to real change,

Barack's got you beat.



You can go by limo

Or lobbyist jet.

You can ride an old donkey

Just get, Hillary, GET!



Your negative ads

Are bringing us down.

You should get off the air,

You should get outta town!



You can go to New York

Or back to The Hill,

But get yourself home

....and don't forget Bill!



Hillary Rodham Clinton,

We don't care how—

HRC

Will you please GO NOW!



Comment by starling310 on 03/14/2008 14:22:05
Quote by wickedpam:

Hey Star, Liv, everyone!





Break a leg Star! YOu'll be great!






Thanks Mala!





MONDO! :hug:

Comment by starling310 on 03/14/2008 14:24:09
NEW HAVEN ADVOCATE!!!

Comment by Raine on 03/14/2008 14:24:56
Quote by starling310:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

<------------ Opening Night jitters!
already? It seems like just yesterday you were trying out! Is this the british play?





Nope. That play ended in November.



This is Fatal Attraction: A Greek Tragedy. ( This isn't our site, BTW )

I am playing Anne Archer.



:doh: now who is the slow one here!



Morning Mondo!



Comment by starling310 on 03/14/2008 14:27:05
My cat is sitting on the kitchen counter staring at me.

Have I forgotten something? I fed him. He's had his pills.



: slowly I turned : what? what are you staring at? you're making me paranoid!



. . . .





stooooop it!

Comment by Mondobubba on 03/14/2008 14:29:00
Quote by starling310:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

<------------ Opening Night jitters!
already? It seems like just yesterday you were trying out! Is this the british play?





Nope. That play ended in November.



This is Fatal Attraction: A Greek Tragedy. ( This isn't our site, BTW )

I am playing Anne Archer.







Corey Feldman still works?

Comment by livingonli on 03/14/2008 14:29:35
Quote by starling310:

My cat is sitting on the kitchen counter staring at me.

Have I forgotten something? I fed him. He's had his pills.



: slowly I turned : what? what are you staring at? you're making me paranoid!



. . . .





stooooop it!




He wants you to know he's still in charge.



Comment by wickedpam on 03/14/2008 14:29:40
Quote by BobR:

Quote by starling310:

Bobber.



Good morning.



Before the LOST updates begin, I would just like to say :: larry craig :: "I HAVE NOT SEEN LOST. I LOVE MY WIFE."


Raine and I haven't watched it yet either (last night was movie night).



SO NO SPOILERS!!




I promise

Comment by starling310 on 03/14/2008 14:31:26
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by starling310:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

<------------ Opening Night jitters!
already? It seems like just yesterday you were trying out! Is this the british play?





Nope. That play ended in November.



This is Fatal Attraction: A Greek Tragedy. ( This isn't our site, BTW )

I am playing Anne Archer.







Corey Feldman still works?




Not really. The play closed after a very short run.



We think it's hysterical though. . . and the small preview audience at Dress Rehearsal agreed!





:rofl: <--------- last night's preview audience.



Comment by Mondobubba on 03/14/2008 14:32:00
Quote by starling310:

My cat is sitting on the kitchen counter staring at me.

Have I forgotten something? I fed him. He's had his pills.



: slowly I turned : what? what are you staring at? you're making me paranoid!



. . . .





stooooop it!




:D God cats are so good at that.

Comment by starling310 on 03/14/2008 14:32:00
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by starling310:

My cat is sitting on the kitchen counter staring at me.

Have I forgotten something? I fed him. He's had his pills.



: slowly I turned : what? what are you staring at? you're making me paranoid!



. . . .





stooooop it!




He wants you to know he's still in charge.





oofda.

i started back and he ran upstairs.





Comment by starling310 on 03/14/2008 14:33:55
To make my jitters worse, the super cute girl that i have a date with tomorrow, WHOM I HAVE NEVER MET, is coming to Opening Night. She really wanted to see the show, and thinks it's important to support artists that she knows ( brownie point ) but, checked her calendar and tonight was the only night she could come.

My friends in the audience will meet her before I do! :rofl:

Comment by livingonli on 03/14/2008 14:34:46
Rum is for dancing. Rum is for fun. :beer:

Comment by starling310 on 03/14/2008 14:41:06
"I'm willing to do carpooling from the airport!" :spit:

Comment by velveeta jones on 03/14/2008 14:42:41
Morning all!

First, Provided there is no rain, I'll be in "lurk" mode. Gardening! :D



Second, a complaint to the staff. While your blog today was, as usual, exellently written and very educational, I come here for CURRENT NEWS!!! News, news. I must have news. What about the all important story of the woman who sat on the crapper for 2 years!



This is certainly news worthy, yes?

Comment by starling310 on 03/14/2008 14:43:46
Isn't that pretty much Condi's JOB!?!?!

Comment by livingonli on 03/14/2008 14:43:53
Good morning Velveeta.



2 years in the crapper. Talk about having a problem.

Comment by Mondobubba on 03/14/2008 14:45:19
Quote by starling310:

To make my jitters worse, the super cute girl that i have a date with tomorrow, WHOM I HAVE NEVER MET, is coming to Opening Night. She really wanted to see the show, and thinks it's important to support artists that she knows ( brownie point ) but, checked her calendar and tonight was the only night she could come.

My friends in the audience will meet her before I do! :rofl:




Star, deep cleansing breath. Hold it. Release slowly repeat. Become cool, become on with the cucumber! You are as cool as cucumber. Nothing to worry about. Relax. Breath in, breath out. Very good. {{{{Star}}}

Comment by starling310 on 03/14/2008 14:46:26
Morning VJ!



Hey, I want you to know that I heard you yesterday, with your thoughts on Prostitution. I had never looked at it that way. I put it up there with Marijuana Legalization. But, I hear what you're saying.

:peace:

Comment by Mondobubba on 03/14/2008 14:46:31
Quote by velveeta jones:

Morning all!

First, Provided there is no rain, I'll be in "lurk" mode. Gardening! :D



Second, a complaint to the staff. While your blog today was, as usual, exellently written and very educational, I come here for CURRENT NEWS!!! News, news. I must have news. What about the all important story of the woman who sat on the crapper for 2 years!



This is certainly news worthy, yes?




VJ please provide docs on the woman on the crapper story!

Comment by velveeta jones on 03/14/2008 14:48:15
Newt weighs in on the current Obama comment:



Gingrich: ‘Ferraro’s remark was silly, childish — and true’

Friday, March 14, 2008, 09:13 AM



The Atlanta Journal-Constitution



Newt Gingrich is saying that Geraldine Ferraro’s comment about Barack Obama was “childish” and “silly” — and “something that probably was true.”



We’re catching this third hand. The observations by the former House speaker and Georgia congressman were published on a Human Events blog, but Gingrich made them during a Thursday appearance on the Fox radio program “Brian and the Judge.”



Ferraro withdrew from the Hillary Clinton campaign after saying the following one week ago, to a local California newspaper:



“If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman [of any color] he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept.”




Comment by BobR on 03/14/2008 14:48:34
Quote by velveeta jones:

Morning all!

First, Provided there is no rain, I'll be in "lurk" mode. Gardening! :D



Second, a complaint to the staff. While your blog today was, as usual, exellently written and very educational, I come here for CURRENT NEWS!!! News, news. I must have news. What about the all important story of the woman who sat on the crapper for 2 years!



This is certainly news worthy, yes?


Maybe I should rename the blog post "Deja Poo All Over Again"?

Comment by Raine on 03/14/2008 14:48:44
Quote by starling310:

To make my jitters worse, the super cute girl that i have a date with tomorrow, WHOM I HAVE NEVER MET, is coming to Opening Night. She really wanted to see the show, and thinks it's important to support artists that she knows ( brownie point ) but, checked her calendar and tonight was the only night she could come.

My friends in the audience will meet her before I do! :rofl:
Now that kinda stuff is movie Romantic, if you ask me!







Comment by starling310 on 03/14/2008 14:48:59
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by starling310:

To make my jitters worse, the super cute girl that i have a date with tomorrow, WHOM I HAVE NEVER MET, is coming to Opening Night. She really wanted to see the show, and thinks it's important to support artists that she knows ( brownie point ) but, checked her calendar and tonight was the only night she could come.

My friends in the audience will meet her before I do! :rofl:




Star, deep cleansing breath. Hold it. Release slowly repeat. Become cool, become on with the cucumber! You are as cool as cucumber. Nothing to worry about. Relax. Breath in, breath out. Very good. {{{{Star}}}




: mantra :

I am a cucumber. I am a cucumber. Om. . .

Comment by BobR on 03/14/2008 14:49:30
Dead Man's Party!!



Yay! Oingo Boingo!

Comment by velveeta jones on 03/14/2008 14:49:58
Quote by BobR:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Morning all!

First, Provided there is no rain, I'll be in "lurk" mode. Gardening! :D



Second, a complaint to the staff. While your blog today was, as usual, exellently written and very educational, I come here for CURRENT NEWS!!! News, news. I must have news. What about the all important story of the woman who sat on the crapper for 2 years!



This is certainly news worthy, yes?


Maybe I should rename the blog post "Deja Poo All Over Again"?






:rofl:

Comment by starling310 on 03/14/2008 14:51:00
Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

To make my jitters worse, the super cute girl that i have a date with tomorrow, WHOM I HAVE NEVER MET, is coming to Opening Night. She really wanted to see the show, and thinks it's important to support artists that she knows ( brownie point ) but, checked her calendar and tonight was the only night she could come.

My friends in the audience will meet her before I do! :rofl:
Now that kinda stuff is movie Romantic, if you ask me!









I was talking about it with my friends in the cast and we decided that if this turns into something, that is a kick a** story.

One of the guys Sal said "That's the best first date story ever!"

Comment by BobR on 03/14/2008 14:51:10
Quote by starling310:





: mantra :

I am a cucumber. I am a cucumber. Om. . .


I am a cucumber....

I am the walrus...

Goo-goo-ga-joob....

Comment by Raine on 03/14/2008 14:51:54
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Morning all!

First, Provided there is no rain, I'll be in "lurk" mode. Gardening! :D



Second, a complaint to the staff. While your blog today was, as usual, exellently written and very educational, I come here for CURRENT NEWS!!! News, news. I must have news. What about the all important story of the woman who sat on the crapper for 2 years!



This is certainly news worthy, yes?




VJ please provide docs on the woman on the crapper story!




OH.



MAH...



Gawd....



:thud: