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The Tipping Point
Author: BobR    Date: 06/08/2012 12:53:45

There are many issues that divide Republicans and Democrats (or Liberals and Conservatives), but one of the more contentious areas is the growing problem of global warming. Despite overwhelming evidence and the vast majority of climate scientists agreement, the conservatives just don't seem to want to conserve nature (despite Nixon creating the EPA). They think there's some environmental "agenda" beyond actually trying to protect the planet. In reality, they don't want to have to change, especially if it means losing money for their supporters (ie: oil companies). It is their adherance to the status quo and marketing to their constituents that has stymied progress on reducing man's impact.

Meanwhile, the planet continues to spiral down. The journal "Nature" released a study that says we could be staring down the barrel of the point of no return in just a few decades:
The paper by 22 top researchers said a “tipping point” by which the biosphere goes into swift and irreversible change, with potentially cataclysmic impacts for humans, could occur as early as this century.

The warning contrasts with a mainstream view among scientists that environmental collapse would be gradual and take centuries.

The factors in today’s equation include a world population that is set to rise from seven billion to around 9.3 billion by mid-century and global warming that will outstrip the UN target of two degrees Celsius (3.6 degrees Fahrenheit).

The team determined that once 50-90 percent of small-scale ecosystems become altered, the entire eco-web tips over into a new state, characterised especially by species extinctions.

Once the shift happens, it cannot be reversed.

much more at the link - I highly recommend a read...

The causes are myriad, and there is no one answer. It's cars, energy production, agriculture and other land use. There is no one magic bullet. Obviously, reducing car emissions is one way to help. After the self-indulgent SUV/Hummer era, car companies have been marketing hybrids and electric cars. Hybrids do well, but part of the problem is pricing. The Honda Fit gets 118 MPG, but it costs $12K more than the all-gas version. Based on gas/electric prices, it would take 10 years to "break even". Government tax credits can/could help with that, but most consumers are wary of that kind of price tag premium. As gas prices drop, the break-even extends even further out.

The European Union is looking to slash auto carbon emissions by 33% by the year 2020. That's really the proper approach: focus on the desired outcome rather than mandate MPG. Let the carmakers figure out how to achieve the result. Obviously, improving MPG is one way, but it could also result in making the price of gas-powered cars closer in parity to electrics and hybrids.

The problem with electrics in America is that we are a large country with lots of wide-open space. Anyone that buys a car will be taking into consideration how far they will want to be able to drive it. With typical recharge time in the 3 hrs+ range, they are not really usable for road trips. I wrote a blog over 4 years ago about a promising technology of using capacitors instead of batteries to power them. Capacitors can charge quickly, and discharge as needed for power, but their storage capacity per size required has always made them unusable for cars. A company on the west coast named "eestor" has promised to have figured out how to do it, but have not yet produced product-ready units. After a couple years of silence and rumors about their demise, they recently issued a press release that they are almost there. Canadian company Zenn Motors has an almost exclusive contract with them to use in cars, though, so we'll just have to see where it goes.

Regardless of progress in electricity, there will always be the "drill here, drill now" crowd, and nothing is likely to dissuade them. Just like the gold rush, the "black gold" rush that hit North Dakota in recent years is making a few people rich, a lot of people unhappy, and ruining the environment there very quickly:
Hydraulic fracturing - the controversial process behind the spread of natural gas drilling - is enabling oil companies to reach previously inaccessible reserves in North Dakota, triggering a turnaround not only in the state’s fortunes, but also in domestic energy production. North Dakota now ranks second behind only Texas in oil output nationwide.

The downside is waste - lots of it. Companies produce millions of gallons of salty, chemical-infused wastewater, known as brine, as part of drilling and fracking each well. Drillers are supposed to inject this material thousands of feet underground into disposal wells, but some of it isn’t making it that far.

According to data obtained by ProPublica, oil companies in North Dakota reported more than 1,000 accidental releases of oil, drilling wastewater or other fluids in 2011, about as many as in the previous two years combined. Many more illicit releases went unreported, state regulators acknowledge, when companies dumped truckloads of toxic fluid along the road or drained waste pits illegally.

As long as there's money to be made in oil, there will be companies and individuals willing to trash our backyard. It's analogous to the Wall Street problem with derivatives, where they knowingly trashed the economy for personal gain. The only way to break free of our 20th century energy technologies is to use the power of government to push energy companies in the right direction. This will require pushing Republicans to embrace the approach, which is likely to be more difficult than pushing the energy companies themselves.

Push we must, though, because we are seriously running out of time.
 

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Comment by Mondobubba on 06/08/2012 12:57:53
Good moring! I was listening to the NPR Mosheen on my way to work today and there were to great contrasting stories. In the first one, The Boner was spewing GOP word salad about job creators, uncertainty, tax cuts, etc. In the second report right after the one with the Boner's sound bit there was explaintion about how job creation is driven on the demand side. It was hilarious!

Comment by Raine on 06/08/2012 13:18:38
Good morning!

Comment by wickedpam on 06/08/2012 13:29:10
MOrning

Comment by Scoopster on 06/08/2012 13:29:36
Goooood mornin & happy Fridee!!!

Raine I didn't get your text last night, probably cuz I was in the convention hall..

Comment by Raine on 06/08/2012 13:31:21
Quote by Scoopster:
Goooood mornin & happy Fridee!!!

Raine I didn't get your text last night, probably cuz I was in the convention hall..
hmm... did you get it at all? It appears as tho my texts have not been going thru properly as of late.


Comment by Scoopster on 06/08/2012 13:46:09
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Scoopster:
Goooood mornin & happy Fridee!!!

Raine I didn't get your text last night, probably cuz I was in the convention hall..
hmm... did you get it at all? It appears as tho my texts have not been going thru properly as of late.

Nope.. :(

Comment by BobR on 06/08/2012 14:09:04
Quote by Mondobubba:
Good moring! I was listening to the NPR Mosheen on my way to work today and there were to great contrasting stories. In the first one, The Boner was spewing GOP word salad about job creators, uncertainty, tax cuts, etc. In the second report right after the one with the Boner's sound bit there was explaintion about how job creation is driven on the demand side. It was hilarious!

that liberal lamestream media!

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/08/2012 14:10:10
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Good moring! I was listening to the NPR Mosheen on my way to work today and there were to great contrasting stories. In the first one, The Boner was spewing GOP word salad about job creators, uncertainty, tax cuts, etc. In the second report right after the one with the Boner's sound bit there was explaintion about how job creation is driven on the demand side. It was hilarious!

that liberal lamestream media!



I know, right? They did that deliberatly to undermine The Boner! Bastids!

Comment by BobR on 06/08/2012 14:56:31
FYI - the blog is up.

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/08/2012 15:36:46
Speaking of tipping points, I've been reading an article about what a giant corporate shill and all around douchebag Malcom Gladwell is. I just thought he was a vaguely annoying public intellectual with Sideshow Bob's hair.

Comment by Raine on 06/08/2012 15:40:52
Excellent Post bob. That article really did frighten me. It frightens me even more how big money form corporations twists the minds of people.

They've been doing it for year WRT Climate change. But a perfect example to be used is how before big tobacco money started infiltrating California, 67% of people were FOR the dollar a pack taxes on Cigs. Yet after the election, that Prop lost.

They have been doing this with CLimate change for WELL over a decade. We just don't seem to notice it anymore.

Comment by Raine on 06/08/2012 15:43:44
*I'll Have Another* has been scratched from the belmont stakes.

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/08/2012 16:00:26
Quote by Raine:
Excellent Post bob. That article really did frighten me. It frightens me even more how big money form corporations twists the minds of people.

They've been doing it for year WRT Climate change. But a perfect example to be used is how before big tobacco money started infiltrating California, 67% of people were FOR the dollar a pack taxes on Cigs. Yet after the election, that Prop lost.

They have been doing this with CLimate change for WELL over a decade. We just don't seem to notice it anymore.



One of the reasons I mentioned this Gladwell article. He's a corporate shill, but he does it in a way that doesn't make him look like one.

Comment by BobR on 06/08/2012 16:12:40
apropos of today's blog, NC Republicans disallow using global warming data when predicting coastal sea level changes

teh stoopit - it hurts!!

EDIT: Actual quote:
"Just because there is a group of folks that project the sea-level rise does not mean the sea will rise. There was consensus years and years and years ago that the earth was flat; turned out to be round"

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/08/2012 16:19:29
Quote by BobR:
apropos of today's blog, NC Republicans disallow using global warming data when predicting coastal sea level changes

teh stoopit - it hurts!!

EDIT: Actual quote:
"Just because there is a group of folks that project the sea-level rise does not mean the sea will rise. There was consensus years and years and years ago that the earth was flat; turned out to be round"



North Carolina didn't used to be as stupid as Alabama. This is a recent turn of events.

Comment by Scoopster on 06/08/2012 16:22:40
Wheee.. Just had a pair of Breitbart trolls at the mic in the seminar about Wisconsin..

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/08/2012 16:39:18
Got an email from HR this week.The cost of my health insurance isn't going up this year! Thank Mr. President!

Comment by wickedpam on 06/08/2012 16:42:28
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by BobR:
apropos of today's blog, NC Republicans disallow using global warming data when predicting coastal sea level changes

teh stoopit - it hurts!!

EDIT: Actual quote:
"Just because there is a group of folks that project the sea-level rise does not mean the sea will rise. There was consensus years and years and years ago that the earth was flat; turned out to be round"



North Carolina didn't used to be as stupid as Alabama. This is a recent turn of events.


Having lived in a coastal/college town in NC with a large port area too - I'm just stunned at how dim they've gotten. It's going to be a shame to loose Wilmington to the ocean


Comment by wickedpam on 06/08/2012 16:43:47
Quote by Mondobubba:
Got an email from HR this week.The cost of my health insurance isn't going up this year! Thank Mr. President!



lucky - mine did. Think its just health insurance company's trying to get as much as they can before 2014 *sigh*

Comment by livingonli on 06/08/2012 16:54:24
Good day everyone. My insurance didn't go up as much, but my co-pays have gone payup and if I have to have a test I am also now paying more for labwork. In my financial situation, these are additional expenses I really can afford. I'm certainly if the GOP had there way, the insurance company could screw me over any way the want.

Comment by livingonli on 06/08/2012 16:55:15
I'm watching Elizabeth Warren on Free Speech TV right now.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/08/2012 17:16:26
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Got an email from HR this week.The cost of my health insurance isn't going up this year! Thank Mr. President!



lucky - mine did. Think its just health insurance company's trying to get as much as they can before 2014 *sigh*


We got a choice of our premiums going up by $5 (PPO) or go to a higher deductible plan for a bit less in premiums.


Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/08/2012 17:27:55
As Bain Capital (Clear Channel) kills a longtime Alternative FM station, a legendary AM station will try to keep its overnight programming local.

An attempt by WBZ to replace LeVeille with a syndicated host resulted in an unprecedented number of phone calls and letters, resulting in LeVeille getting his overnight spot back about a month later.

Mrs. Rabbit has enjoyed many sleepless late nights listening to LeVeille. He will be missed.

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/08/2012 17:37:25
You know there are raging debates about what the best tasting food. There are partisans on all sides of this debate, but I think it is easy to settle. Free food tastes best. Especially when it served to you by the company's leadership. We are having employees we love you day today.

Comment by wickedpam on 06/08/2012 17:44:49
well that was interesting - we just had someone carrying in our warehouse - took the cops at least 30 mins to show up but by then he'd finally be escorted from the building

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/08/2012 17:46:12
Quote by wickedpam:
well that was interesting - we just had someone carrying in our warehouse - took the cops at least 30 mins to show up but by then he'd finally be escorted from the building



"Carrying in?" Carrying what?

Comment by wickedpam on 06/08/2012 18:14:33
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
well that was interesting - we just had someone carrying in our warehouse - took the cops at least 30 mins to show up but by then he'd finally be escorted from the building



"Carrying in?" Carrying what?


carrying a gun

Comment by Scoopster on 06/08/2012 18:15:50
Quote by wickedpam:
well that was interesting - we just had someone carrying in our warehouse - took the cops at least 30 mins to show up but by then he'd finally be escorted from the building

WTF man!?! What kind of I'd... Nvm I forgot it was legal to pack heat down there

Comment by wickedpam on 06/08/2012 18:28:19
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by wickedpam:
well that was interesting - we just had someone carrying in our warehouse - took the cops at least 30 mins to show up but by then he'd finally be escorted from the building

WTF man!?! What kind of I'd... Nvm I forgot it was legal to pack heat down there



it is a conceal carry state, not sure about open carry though. but ya, here's a clue, if your a temp and you want to be offered the job when the contract is over - Don't Carry A Gun. And when you are asked to leave, leave. Don't wander around the warehouse cause you'll get the cops called on you

idiots

Comment by livingonli on 06/08/2012 18:32:49
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by wickedpam:
well that was interesting - we just had someone carrying in our warehouse - took the cops at least 30 mins to show up but by then he'd finally be escorted from the building

WTF man!?! What kind of I'd... Nvm I forgot it was legal to pack heat down there



it is a conceal carry state, not sure about open carry though. but ya, here's a clue, if your a temp and you want to be offered the job when the contract is over - Don't Carry A Gun. And when you are asked to leave, leave. Don't wander around the warehouse cause you'll get the cops called on you

idiots

Gun nuts, especially teabagger ones do seem a little low on the IQ scale.

Comment by wickedpam on 06/08/2012 18:42:41
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by wickedpam:
well that was interesting - we just had someone carrying in our warehouse - took the cops at least 30 mins to show up but by then he'd finally be escorted from the building

WTF man!?! What kind of I'd... Nvm I forgot it was legal to pack heat down there



it is a conceal carry state, not sure about open carry though. but ya, here's a clue, if your a temp and you want to be offered the job when the contract is over - Don't Carry A Gun. And when you are asked to leave, leave. Don't wander around the warehouse cause you'll get the cops called on you

idiots

Gun nuts, especially teabagger ones do seem a little low on the IQ scale.


yeah, this guy not a teabagger, I think he thinks it makes him powerful - it doesn't


Comment by livingonli on 06/08/2012 18:48:13
It does seem like the phallic combination and that the guy is compensating for something else.

Comment by Raine on 06/08/2012 18:51:15
Scoop. CAll Bobber and get Shanes number from him. I think I don't have your number anymore.

Comment by Raine on 06/08/2012 18:52:15
Quote by Raine:
Scoop. CAll Bobber and get Shanes number from him. I think I don't have your number anymore.

Plus I am not at home. At the office as they say... deets later.

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/08/2012 20:00:14
So ladies, who has been reading Doonsbury this week? He is totally nailing the issue of sexual assualt in the military.


Nailing,,,sexual asaault, not the best words choice....

Comment by Will in Chicago on 06/08/2012 20:37:30
Quote by trojanrabbit:
As Bain Capital (Clear Channel) kills a longtime Alternative FM station, a legendary AM station will try to keep its overnight programming local.

An attempt by WBZ to replace LeVeille with a syndicated host resulted in an unprecedented number of phone calls and letters, resulting in LeVeille getting his overnight spot back about a month later.

Mrs. Rabbit has enjoyed many sleepless late nights listening to LeVeille. He will be missed.


This is sad, as I fear that we are losing more local voices in our country. Also, I wonder about the viability of radio in an era when many young people are downloading songs.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 06/08/2012 20:41:48
I fear for the future of our planet, as we seem to have too many people who make a religion out of greed and use their rather literal interpretation of religious texts to deny the viability of science. As a religious liberal, who believes that I have an obligation not just to my neighbor but to future generations, I view those who do not worry about the future as foolish. Not just foolish, but dangerous in that they are like the people of Pompeii and Herculaneum who saw smoke on the mountain and thought that there was no danger. May future archeologists, inhabiting a devastated Earth, not see our generation as foolish.

Comment by wickedpam on 06/08/2012 20:47:20
ugh - so this is why I listen to Randi more then Thom these days - he's freakin' me out!!!!

Comment by Raine on 06/08/2012 21:09:27
BTW LISTEN TO THE END OF THOM HARTMANN today

Comment by wickedpam on 06/08/2012 21:12:07
Quote by Raine:
BTW LISTEN TO THE END OF THOM HARTMANN today




I'll be in the car!!!! Dang it!

Comment by Will in Chicago on 06/08/2012 22:21:01
I missed it as I had to grab dinner. So, what did I miss?


Comment by Scoopster on 06/08/2012 22:41:21
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
Scoop. CAll Bobber and get Shanes number from him. I think I don't have your number anymore.

Plus I am not at home. At the office as they say... deets later.

Is his number the same as yours?

Comment by BobR on 06/08/2012 23:19:34
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
Scoop. CAll Bobber and get Shanes number from him. I think I don't have your number anymore.

Plus I am not at home. At the office as they say... deets later.

Is his number the same as yours?

No. But she's home now.

Comment by Raine on 06/08/2012 23:27:55
Quote by Will in Chicago:
I missed it as I had to grab dinner. So, what did I miss?

Since I found out that I would be revealed today, I thought it was safe to say here...


I have been Tom Hartmann Call screener for the past three days. I'll be the future fill in Call screener from now on!

And I have to say, I really did enjoy it!

Comment by wickedpam on 06/08/2012 23:51:40
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Will in Chicago:
I missed it as I had to grab dinner. So, what did I miss?

Since I found out that I would be revealed today, I thought it was safe to say here...


I have been Tom Hartmann Call screener for the past three days. I'll be the future fill in Call screener from now on!

And I have to say, I really did enjoy it!





Comment by Will in Chicago on 06/09/2012 03:54:09
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Will in Chicago:
I missed it as I had to grab dinner. So, what did I miss?

Since I found out that I would be revealed today, I thought it was safe to say here...


I have been Tom Hartmann Call screener for the past three days. I'll be the future fill in Call screener from now on!

And I have to say, I really did enjoy it!



Mazel tov, Raine!!! I think that you will do a great job.