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Author: Raine
Date: 10/22/2012 13:49:06
Darrell Issa needs to be removed from his position on the Oversight and Government Reform Committee -- immediately. Earlier this month, we learned that in his zeal to go after President Obama for the tragedy in Libya, he blew the CIA's cover. Dana Millbank wrote: Last Friday, 'Representative' Issa took it upon himself to dump 166 pages of State Department documents... Foreign Policy reports: Back in July, I wrote a piece wondering about Darrell Issa and his access to information with regard to the Fast and Furious investigation he held. A month after that leak, amidst the Fast and Furious debacle, I wrote:
To date - as far as I know - not one member of the Republican-controlled House has called for Mr. Issa to be censured or reprimanded for his reckless actions. Republican leadership has been silent about his behavior. Let me paraphrase Mr Issa:
"The American people deserve nothing less than a full explanation fromthis administration this congressman about these events, including why the repeated warnings leaks about a that are creating a worsening security situation appear to have been ignored by this administration the Republican leadership. Americans also deserve a complete explanation about your administration's Chairman's decision to accelerate a normalized presence in disclosure of Libya at what now appears to be at the cost of endangering American lives,"
Darrell Issa might be a representative, but I'm not sure who he represents. Outing CIA personnel and their operations is not acceptable. Not now, not ever. Scooter Libby went to jail for something quite similar to this. Bradley Manning is sitting in jail as we speak. At the very least, I want to know: why is Darrell Issa still heading this committee? Personally, I think there should be an investigation from the Department of Justice. He has not only put members of the CIA in harm's way, he's endangered the lives of innocents. He has given aid and comfort to the enemy. With friends like him, who needs enemies?
and 
Raine
The purpose of Wednesday’s hearing of the Oversight and Government Reform Committee was to examine security lapses that led to the killing in Benghazi last month of the U.S. ambassador to Libya and three others. But in doing so, the lawmakers reminded us why “congressional intelligence” is an oxymoron.
Through their outbursts, cryptic language and boneheaded questioning of State Department officials, the committee members left little doubt that one of the two compounds at which the Americans were killed, described by the administration as a “consulate” and a nearby “annex,” was a CIA base. They did this, helpfully, in a televised public hearing.
Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) was the first to unmask the spooks. “Point of order! Point of order!” he called out as a State Department security official, seated in front of an aerial photo of the U.S. facilities in Benghazi, described the chaotic night of the attack. “We’re getting into classified issues that deal with sources and methods that would be totally inappropriate in an open forum such as this.”
A State Department official assured him that the material was “entirely unclassified” and that the photo was from a commercial satellite. “I totally object to the use of that photo,” Chaffetz continued. He went on to say that “I was told specifically while I was in Libya I could not and should not ever talk about what you’re showing here today.”
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Republicans were aiming to embarrass the Obama administration over State Department security lapses. But they inadvertently caused a different picture to emerge than the one that has been publicly known: that the victims may have been let down not by the State Department but by the CIA. If the CIA was playing such a major role in these events, which was the unmistakable impression left by Wednesday’s hearing, having a televised probe of the matter was absurd.
The chairman, attempting to close his can of worms, finally suggested that “the entire committee have a classified briefing as to any and all other assets that were not drawn upon but could have been drawn upon” in Benghazi. Good idea. Too bad he didn’t think of that before putting the CIA on C-SPAN.
Issa posted 166 pages of sensitive but unclassified State Department communications related to Libya on the committee's website afternoon as part of his effort to investigate security failures and expose contradictions in the administration's statements regarding the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi that resulted in the death of Amb. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans.
"The American people deserve nothing less than a full explanation from this administration about these events, including why the repeated warnings about a worsening security situation appear to have been ignored by this administration. Americans also deserve a complete explanation about your administration's decision to accelerate a normalized presence in Libya at what now appears to be at the cost of endangering American lives," Issa and Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) wrote today in a letter to President Barack Obama.
But Issa didn't bother to redact the names of Libyan civilians and local leaders mentioned in the cables, and just as with the WikiLeaks dump of State Department cables last year, the administration says that Issa has done damage to U.S. efforts to work with those Libyans and exposed them to physical danger from the very groups that had an interest in attacking the U.S. consulate.
"Much like WikiLeaks, when you dump a bunch of documents into the ether, there are a lot of unintended consequences," an administration official told The Cable Friday afternoon. "This does damage to the individuals because they are named, danger to security cooperation because these are militias and groups that we work with and that is now well known, and danger to the investigation, because these people could help us down the road."
I laid out a few suspicious activitites that Mr. Issa was involved in such as leaking Secret Trade DocumentsWASHINGTON -- House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) has taken the unprecedented step of leaking a secret U.S. trade document, in hopes of pressuring President Barack Obama's administration into disclosing the details of a major trade deal with far-reaching implications on everything from "Buy American" contracting rules to prescription drug prices to internet freedom.
Darrell Issa Is leaking sensitive documents -- undisclosed documents - into the congressional record. That's right, he's leaking federally-sealed documents. From The Hill:Even though he has admitted he has no evidence, Issa has decided to leak federally-sealed documents. As noted above, he seems to have no problem doing this sort of thing. I wonder now, will the GOP call for a special investigation of Issa and his committee?Issa entered the sensitive, and previously undisclosed, information into the Congressional Record on Thursday during the floor debate leading up to the passage of his resolution placing Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress.
The powerful Republican might be protected from what otherwise would be a criminal offense under Congress’s speech and debate clause because the remarks were written into the public record during chamber proceedings. (snip)
The applications, which are under a federal court’s seal, were given to Issa by a mole with access to the documents. Issa has claimed they reveal that top-level Justice Department officials signed off on the documents and knew about the controversial “gun-walking” tactics used in Fast and Furious. Issa has called his source a “whistleblower” and refused to disclose his or her identity. (snip)
In testimony before the House Rules Committee this week, Issa told lawmakers that he had no evidence that Holder was responsible for Fast and Furious. But on Thursday, the California Republican successfully passed civil and criminal resolutions placing Holder in contempt for not responding to a congressional subpoena for documents.
Not only has this been yet another attempt at trying to smear the administration, we are seeing mounting evidence that the actual lawbreaker may very well be Darrell Issa himself.
To date - as far as I know - not one member of the Republican-controlled House has called for Mr. Issa to be censured or reprimanded for his reckless actions. Republican leadership has been silent about his behavior. Let me paraphrase Mr Issa:
"The American people deserve nothing less than a full explanation from
Darrell Issa might be a representative, but I'm not sure who he represents. Outing CIA personnel and their operations is not acceptable. Not now, not ever. Scooter Libby went to jail for something quite similar to this. Bradley Manning is sitting in jail as we speak. At the very least, I want to know: why is Darrell Issa still heading this committee? Personally, I think there should be an investigation from the Department of Justice. He has not only put members of the CIA in harm's way, he's endangered the lives of innocents. He has given aid and comfort to the enemy. With friends like him, who needs enemies?
and Raine
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Comment by 
Mondobubba on 10/22/2012 14:15:53
Mondobubba on 10/22/2012 14:15:53
Since I not longer have HBO I didn't get to see Bill Maher ripping the hide of Rep Issa.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 10/22/2012 14:17:38
wickedpam on 10/22/2012 14:17:38
Issa's an idiot.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2012 14:24:38
I saw this in the endless who's bigger bad-ass, Bruce Lee or Chuck Norris (neither it is Liam Neeson) I saw this on the book of faces last night. Please note what Mr. Lee is using as a paddle.
Mondobubba on 10/22/2012 14:24:38
I saw this in the endless who's bigger bad-ass, Bruce Lee or Chuck Norris (neither it is Liam Neeson) I saw this on the book of faces last night. Please note what Mr. Lee is using as a paddle.
Comment by 
Scoopster on 10/22/2012 14:28:47
Scoopster on 10/22/2012 14:28:47
Mornin' all & Happy Mondee! 
Hmmm I must've missed that part. Bill was on total meltdown though - he had John Fund and this other complete nitwit on and they kept trying to spin Rmoney's fuckup on Libya as if it never happened.
Quote by Mondobubba:
Since I not longer have HBO I didn't get to see Bill Maher ripping the hide of Rep Issa.
Hmmm I must've missed that part. Bill was on total meltdown though - he had John Fund and this other complete nitwit on and they kept trying to spin Rmoney's fuckup on Libya as if it never happened.
Comment by 
Raine on 10/22/2012 14:28:54
Here is video when you are able to watch it.
Raine on 10/22/2012 14:28:54
Quote by Mondobubba:
Since I not longer have HBO I didn't get to see Bill Maher ripping the hide of Rep Issa.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2012 14:29:00
Mondobubba on 10/22/2012 14:29:00
Now we can return to deriding Darrell Issa and he brain-dead, blood shirt of 9/11 waving stooge, Jason Chaffetz, who at least 10 different kinds of stupid.
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2012 14:29:37
I saw the last half and I was so irritated.
Raine on 10/22/2012 14:29:37
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all & Happy Mondee!Quote by Mondobubba:
Since I not longer have HBO I didn't get to see Bill Maher ripping the hide of Rep Issa.
Hmmm I must've missed that part. Bill was on total meltdown though - he had John Fund and this other complete nitwit on and they kept trying to spin Rmoney's fuckup on Libya as if it never happened.
Comment by Scoopster on 10/22/2012 14:31:17
What the.. did I see a completely different episode??
Scoopster on 10/22/2012 14:31:17
Quote by Raine:Here is video when you are able to watch it.Quote by Mondobubba:
Since I not longer have HBO I didn't get to see Bill Maher ripping the hide of Rep Issa.
What the.. did I see a completely different episode??
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2012 14:33:04
MoBro thought it was Issa. John Fund? Seriously?
Mondobubba on 10/22/2012 14:33:04
Quote by Raine:I saw the last half and I was so irritated.Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all & Happy Mondee!Quote by Mondobubba:
Since I not longer have HBO I didn't get to see Bill Maher ripping the hide of Rep Issa.
Hmmm I must've missed that part. Bill was on total meltdown though - he had John Fund and this other complete nitwit on and they kept trying to spin Rmoney's fuckup on Libya as if it never happened.
MoBro thought it was Issa. John Fund? Seriously?
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2012 14:34:00
LAst week was Fund and Goldie Taylor (they treated her like shit)
The week before was Issa. that was the link I put below.
Raine on 10/22/2012 14:34:00
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:I saw the last half and I was so irritated.Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all & Happy Mondee!Quote by Mondobubba:
Since I not longer have HBO I didn't get to see Bill Maher ripping the hide of Rep Issa.
Hmmm I must've missed that part. Bill was on total meltdown though - he had John Fund and this other complete nitwit on and they kept trying to spin Rmoney's fuckup on Libya as if it never happened.
MoBro thought it was Issa. John Fund? Seriously?
The week before was Issa. that was the link I put below.
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2012 14:34:36
No you saw last weeks ep, Issa was the week before.
Raine on 10/22/2012 14:34:36
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Raine:Here is video when you are able to watch it.Quote by Mondobubba:
Since I not longer have HBO I didn't get to see Bill Maher ripping the hide of Rep Issa.
What the.. did I see a completely different episode??
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2012 14:41:37
Raine on 10/22/2012 14:41:37
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2012 14:55:53
Raine on 10/22/2012 14:55:53
This is a little freaky deaky. I know that people have the right to worship as they please, but -- come on....
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2012 15:03:31
I must say
Mondobubba on 10/22/2012 15:03:31
Quote by Raine:
I must say
Comment by wickedpam on 10/22/2012 15:06:07
I swear this sounds so cult-like its freaking me out, couldn't finish watching
wickedpam on 10/22/2012 15:06:07
Quote by Raine:
This is a little freaky deaky. I know that people have the right to worship as they please, but -- come on....
I swear this sounds so cult-like its freaking me out, couldn't finish watching
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2012 15:09:11
I was highly disturbed at the part where it said the Mormon Church wants to displace our government.
It has long been rumored that this was a goal, but there it is, right there.
Raine on 10/22/2012 15:09:11
Quote by wickedpam:
I swear this sounds so cult-like its freaking me out, couldn't finish watching
It has long been rumored that this was a goal, but there it is, right there.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/22/2012 15:10:47
it's just..... ugh.... I swear I have no words for how creeped out this makes me feel
wickedpam on 10/22/2012 15:10:47
Quote by Raine:I was highly disturbed at the part where it said the Mormon Church wants to displace our government.Quote by wickedpam:
I swear this sounds so cult-like its freaking me out, couldn't finish watching
It has long been rumored that this was a goal, but there it is, right there.
it's just..... ugh.... I swear I have no words for how creeped out this makes me feel
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2012 15:11:30
It's like watching the Wizard of Oz. They are playing a pre-recorded instructions.
Raine on 10/22/2012 15:11:30
It's like watching the Wizard of Oz. They are playing a pre-recorded instructions.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/22/2012 15:12:01
wickedpam on 10/22/2012 15:12:01
did Step go to best of?
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2012 15:15:30
Who is the woman she is interviewing? I'm listening to the Chicago stream.
Raine on 10/22/2012 15:15:30
Quote by wickedpam:
did Step go to best of?
Comment by wickedpam on 10/22/2012 15:25:02
Melissa Fitzgerald, actress, they were asking her questions they asked someone else from Chasing the Hill - I was momentarily confused
wickedpam on 10/22/2012 15:25:02
Quote by Raine:Who is the woman she is interviewing? I'm listening to the Chicago stream.Quote by wickedpam:
did Step go to best of?
Melissa Fitzgerald, actress, they were asking her questions they asked someone else from Chasing the Hill - I was momentarily confused
Comment by wickedpam on 10/22/2012 15:27:30
wickedpam on 10/22/2012 15:27:30
oh, did you hear, Cuch isn't going to follow up - are we shocked?
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2012 15:27:46
Chris just called T-Bone *Sporto*
Raine on 10/22/2012 15:27:46
Chris just called T-Bone *Sporto*
Comment by 
BobR on 10/22/2012 15:29:31
This is the very definition of badass. Webster's - please take note.
BobR on 10/22/2012 15:29:31
Quote by Mondobubba:
I saw this in the endless who's bigger bad-ass, Bruce Lee or Chuck Norris (neither it is Liam Neeson) I saw this on the book of faces last night. Please note what Mr. Lee is using as a paddle.
This is the very definition of badass. Webster's - please take note.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2012 15:34:56
Liam Neeson will need to be consulted.
Mondobubba on 10/22/2012 15:34:56
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
I saw this in the endless who's bigger bad-ass, Bruce Lee or Chuck Norris (neither it is Liam Neeson) I saw this on the book of faces last night. Please note what Mr. Lee is using as a paddle.
This is the very definition of badass. Webster's - please take note.
Liam Neeson will need to be consulted.
Comment by 
livingonli on 10/22/2012 15:44:01
livingonli on 10/22/2012 15:44:01
Good morning, folks. It looks like I need a few more things to help with packing my stuff and moving. And roomie I think may have already headed down to Myrtle Beach to look at places so I need to find out when she's coming back since I am taking care of the cat so I can set a move date.
And I'm sure Mala is happy that AMC is back on Dish since they settled the legal case out of court since Dish was about to their clocks cleaned in court. The other AMC Network channels (We, IFC, and Sundance) plus Fuse (although no sign of sister channels MSG and MSG Plus coming back) will be back on November 1st.
And I'm sure Mala is happy that AMC is back on Dish since they settled the legal case out of court since Dish was about to their clocks cleaned in court. The other AMC Network channels (We, IFC, and Sundance) plus Fuse (although no sign of sister channels MSG and MSG Plus coming back) will be back on November 1st.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/22/2012 15:47:49
Me last night discovering my AMC ->
wickedpam on 10/22/2012 15:47:49
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning, folks. It looks like I need a few more things to help with packing my stuff and moving. And roomie I think may have already headed down to Myrtle Beach to look at places so I need to find out when she's coming back since I am taking care of the cat so I can set a move date.
And I'm sure Mala is happy that AMC is back on Dish since they settled the legal case out of court since Dish was about to their clocks cleaned in court. The other AMC Network channels (We, IFC, and Sundance) plus Fuse (although no sign of sister channels MSG and MSG Plus coming back) will be back on November 1st.
Me last night discovering my AMC ->
Comment by livingonli on 10/22/2012 15:48:37
livingonli on 10/22/2012 15:48:37
Have to love when Current runs a promo for The View which is on the same time as the spot is running (in Eastern and Central time zones anyway) during Stephanie Miller.
Comment by livingonli on 10/22/2012 15:56:57
livingonli on 10/22/2012 15:56:57
This caller is further proof that right-wingers are idiots. And it seems like they are only voting for him to oust Obama since I never had the impression there was much enthusiasm for him and it was just as the other candidates flamed out that he got the nomination by default (with the party making sure the Ron Paul supporters didn't mess that up) .
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2012 16:15:16
Raine on 10/22/2012 16:15:16
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by livingonli:
Good morning, folks. It looks like I need a few more things to help with packing my stuff and moving. And roomie I think may have already headed down to Myrtle Beach to look at places so I need to find out when she's coming back since I am taking care of the cat so I can set a move date.
And I'm sure Mala is happy that AMC is back on Dish since they settled the legal case out of court since Dish was about to their clocks cleaned in court. The other AMC Network channels (We, IFC, and Sundance) plus Fuse (although no sign of sister channels MSG and MSG Plus coming back) will be back on November 1st.
Me last night discovering my AMC ->
Comment by wickedpam on 10/22/2012 16:27:06
wickedpam on 10/22/2012 16:27:06
Well, they have the good scary movies and it was always my go to station for JAWS 
Plus Walking Dead!
Plus Walking Dead!
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2012 16:51:08
Raine on 10/22/2012 16:51:08
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Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2012 16:55:37
I was there, I saw her doing on Facebook. Mala you have more moves than Jello!
Mondobubba on 10/22/2012 16:55:37
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by livingonli:
Good morning, folks. It looks like I need a few more things to help with packing my stuff and moving. And roomie I think may have already headed down to Myrtle Beach to look at places so I need to find out when she's coming back since I am taking care of the cat so I can set a move date.
And I'm sure Mala is happy that AMC is back on Dish since they settled the legal case out of court since Dish was about to their clocks cleaned in court. The other AMC Network channels (We, IFC, and Sundance) plus Fuse (although no sign of sister channels MSG and MSG Plus coming back) will be back on November 1st.
Me last night discovering my AMC ->
I was there, I saw her doing on Facebook. Mala you have more moves than Jello!
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2012 16:56:41
Of course it does.
Mondobubba on 10/22/2012 16:56:41
Quote by Raine:
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Of course it does.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/22/2012 16:57:25
wickedpam on 10/22/2012 16:57:25
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by livingonli:
Good morning, folks. It looks like I need a few more things to help with packing my stuff and moving. And roomie I think may have already headed down to Myrtle Beach to look at places so I need to find out when she's coming back since I am taking care of the cat so I can set a move date.
And I'm sure Mala is happy that AMC is back on Dish since they settled the legal case out of court since Dish was about to their clocks cleaned in court. The other AMC Network channels (We, IFC, and Sundance) plus Fuse (although no sign of sister channels MSG and MSG Plus coming back) will be back on November 1st.
Me last night discovering my AMC ->
I was there, I saw her doing on Facebook. Mala you have more moves than Jello!
Comment by Scoopster on 10/22/2012 17:08:40
Scoopster on 10/22/2012 17:08:40
Oh for fuck's sake this is disgusting..
At his event, (Scott) Brown was bolstered by the former mayor of Lowell, Rita Mercier, who pointed to Brown’s wife and daughters as evidence of his support for women, calling them “three adorable good woman that are strong and vibrant and independent. You don’t get that way unless you have a strong man that allowed you to blossom.â€
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2012 17:13:52
Jeebus.
that is just -- Uck.
-- I 'm also sick of these sideways jabs at Single women. I know a HELL OF A LOT of single women that raise daughters that are strong vibrant and independent.
My mother happens to be one of them.
Raine on 10/22/2012 17:13:52
Quote by Scoopster:
Oh for fuck's sake this is disgusting..At his event, (Scott) Brown was bolstered by the former mayor of Lowell, Rita Mercier, who pointed to Brown’s wife and daughters as evidence of his support for women, calling them “three adorable good woman that are strong and vibrant and independent. You don’t get that way unless you have a strong man that allowed you to blossom.â€
that is just -- Uck.
-- I 'm also sick of these sideways jabs at Single women. I know a HELL OF A LOT of single women that raise daughters that are strong vibrant and independent.
My mother happens to be one of them.
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2012 17:16:34
Raine on 10/22/2012 17:16:34
Ok, this is more freeky stuff. My question is this, Is Mitt Romney allowed to enter LDS temples?
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2012 17:16:57
Mondobubba on 10/22/2012 17:16:57
If 93% of adults in this country are on Facebook, why is that say I dunno 3% of them have a fucking clue how the goddamn thing works.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2012 17:25:14
My friend Bonnie has done a fantabulous job with her daughter. The kind is smart as hell, funny a giant geek, she's one of the most amazing kids I know. No thanks to her useless lump of a dad.
Mondobubba on 10/22/2012 17:25:14
Quote by Raine:Jeebus.Quote by Scoopster:
Oh for fuck's sake this is disgusting..At his event, (Scott) Brown was bolstered by the former mayor of Lowell, Rita Mercier, who pointed to Brown’s wife and daughters as evidence of his support for women, calling them “three adorable good woman that are strong and vibrant and independent. You don’t get that way unless you have a strong man that allowed you to blossom.â€
that is just -- Uck.
-- I 'm also sick of these sideways jabs at Single women. I know a HELL OF A LOT of single women that raise daughters that are strong vibrant and independent.
My mother happens to be one of them.
My friend Bonnie has done a fantabulous job with her daughter. The kind is smart as hell, funny a giant geek, she's one of the most amazing kids I know. No thanks to her useless lump of a dad.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2012 17:39:34
Let me edit a little bit. Bonnie's daughter is blossoming into a confident, intelligent, sensible, beautiful young woman. It is really cool to watch.
Mondobubba on 10/22/2012 17:39:34
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Jeebus.Quote by Scoopster:
Oh for fuck's sake this is disgusting..At his event, (Scott) Brown was bolstered by the former mayor of Lowell, Rita Mercier, who pointed to Brown’s wife and daughters as evidence of his support for women, calling them “three adorable good woman that are strong and vibrant and independent. You don’t get that way unless you have a strong man that allowed you to blossom.â€
that is just -- Uck.
-- I 'm also sick of these sideways jabs at Single women. I know a HELL OF A LOT of single women that raise daughters that are strong vibrant and independent.
My mother happens to be one of them.
My friend Bonnie has done a fantabulous job with her daughter. The kind is smart as hell, funny a giant geek, she's one of the most amazing kids I know. No thanks to her useless lump of a dad.
Let me edit a little bit. Bonnie's daughter is blossoming into a confident, intelligent, sensible, beautiful young woman. It is really cool to watch.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/22/2012 18:05:47
Will in Chicago on 10/22/2012 18:05:47
Raine, thanks for a great blog. As for Congressman Issa, I fear that the man's true loyalty is to his party and its backers. I think that the President should mention this tonight, as we have members fo Romney's party endangering people who have helped this country.
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2012 19:15:01
Compare and contrast, what you said is wonderful Mondo, What Ms. Mercier said was just ICK.
Raine on 10/22/2012 19:15:01
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Jeebus.Quote by Scoopster:
Oh for fuck's sake this is disgusting..At his event, (Scott) Brown was bolstered by the former mayor of Lowell, Rita Mercier, who pointed to Brown’s wife and daughters as evidence of his support for women, calling them “three adorable good woman that are strong and vibrant and independent. You don’t get that way unless you have a strong man that allowed you to blossom.â€
that is just -- Uck.
-- I 'm also sick of these sideways jabs at Single women. I know a HELL OF A LOT of single women that raise daughters that are strong vibrant and independent.
My mother happens to be one of them.
My friend Bonnie has done a fantabulous job with her daughter. The kind is smart as hell, funny a giant geek, she's one of the most amazing kids I know. No thanks to her useless lump of a dad.
Let me edit a little bit. Bonnie's daughter is blossoming into a confident, intelligent, sensible, beautiful young woman. It is really cool to watch.
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2012 19:43:55
I like when Randi uses the same sources as I do.
Raine on 10/22/2012 19:43:55
I like when Randi uses the same sources as I do.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2012 19:49:12
Bonnie's kid is amazing! He mom's pretty nifty too. She is incredibly strong-willed when it comes to her.
Mondobubba on 10/22/2012 19:49:12
Quote by Raine:Compare and contrast, what you said is wonderful Mondo, What Ms. Mercier said was just ICK.Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Jeebus.Quote by Scoopster:
Oh for fuck's sake this is disgusting..At his event, (Scott) Brown was bolstered by the former mayor of Lowell, Rita Mercier, who pointed to Brown’s wife and daughters as evidence of his support for women, calling them “three adorable good woman that are strong and vibrant and independent. You don’t get that way unless you have a strong man that allowed you to blossom.â€
that is just -- Uck.
-- I 'm also sick of these sideways jabs at Single women. I know a HELL OF A LOT of single women that raise daughters that are strong vibrant and independent.
My mother happens to be one of them.
My friend Bonnie has done a fantabulous job with her daughter. The kind is smart as hell, funny a giant geek, she's one of the most amazing kids I know. No thanks to her useless lump of a dad.
Let me edit a little bit. Bonnie's daughter is blossoming into a confident, intelligent, sensible, beautiful young woman. It is really cool to watch.
Bonnie's kid is amazing! He mom's pretty nifty too. She is incredibly strong-willed when it comes to her.
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2012 19:49:32
Ok, Randi just called Darrell Issa a Douche on the radio!
Raine on 10/22/2012 19:49:32
Ok, Randi just called Darrell Issa a Douche on the radio!
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2012 20:16:21
I've called him worse on Facebook. Randi has to answer to the FCC. I think there was something much worse in the ol' thought bubble.
Mondobubba on 10/22/2012 20:16:21
Quote by Raine:
I've called him worse on Facebook. Randi has to answer to the FCC. I think there was something much worse in the ol' thought bubble.
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2012 20:52:07
I;m sure the word in the thought bubble started with a *D* as well.
Raine on 10/22/2012 20:52:07
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
I've called him worse on Facebook. Randi has to answer to the FCC. I think there was something much worse in the ol' thought bubble.
Comment by livingonli on 10/22/2012 20:52:41
livingonli on 10/22/2012 20:52:41
I think I may have locked down a place. Not the place with kitties, but it does have a pool and a friendly dog and the pool put it in my favor and it's still close to my job. I just have to go down there tomorrow and get the paperwork done. Although I do have to get my car to the shop because one of my warning lights is on but I will buzz him if the work takes longer than planned.
Comment by 
clintster on 10/22/2012 21:16:33
clintster on 10/22/2012 21:16:33
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2012 21:47:39
I'm still waiting for the Gloria Allred *bombshell*
Donald needs to sit down already.
Raine on 10/22/2012 21:47:39
Quote by clintster:
Ah jeez, not this shit again!
Donald Trump Promises "Yuge" announcement Wendesday
Donald needs to sit down already.
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2012 21:48:21
Excellent news!
Raine on 10/22/2012 21:48:21
Quote by livingonli:
I think I may have locked down a place. Not the place with kitties, but it does have a pool and a friendly dog and the pool put it in my favor and it's still close to my job. I just have to go down there tomorrow and get the paperwork done. Although I do have to get my car to the shop because one of my warning lights is on but I will buzz him if the work takes longer than planned.
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2012 21:53:06
Trump and Allred both promise October surprises...
Raine on 10/22/2012 21:53:06
Quote by Raine:I'm still waiting for the Gloria Allred *bombshell*Quote by clintster:
Ah jeez, not this shit again!
Donald Trump Promises "Yuge" announcement Wendesday
Donald needs to sit down already.
Comment by clintster on 10/22/2012 21:58:44
Well, hell, I'd like to announce that I have an October Surprise, too.
clintster on 10/22/2012 21:58:44
Quote by Raine:Trump and Allred both promise October surprises...Quote by Raine:I'm still waiting for the Gloria Allred *bombshell*Quote by clintster:
Ah jeez, not this shit again!
Donald Trump Promises "Yuge" announcement Wendesday
Donald needs to sit down already.
Well, hell, I'd like to announce that I have an October Surprise, too.
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2012 22:01:23
I like your surprise MUCH better!
Raine on 10/22/2012 22:01:23
Quote by clintster:Quote by Raine:Trump and Allred both promise October surprises...Quote by Raine:I'm still waiting for the Gloria Allred *bombshell*Quote by clintster:
Ah jeez, not this shit again!
Donald Trump Promises "Yuge" announcement Wendesday
Donald needs to sit down already.
Well, hell, I'd like to announce that I have an October Surprise, too.
Comment by BobR on 10/22/2012 23:19:30
Depending on which light it is, you might be able to wait another day to ensure you get the place you want.
BobR on 10/22/2012 23:19:30
Quote by livingonli:
I think I may have locked down a place. Not the place with kitties, but it does have a pool and a friendly dog and the pool put it in my favor and it's still close to my job. I just have to go down there tomorrow and get the paperwork done. Although I do have to get my car to the shop because one of my warning lights is on but I will buzz him if the work takes longer than planned.
Depending on which light it is, you might be able to wait another day to ensure you get the place you want.
Comment by 
TriSec on 10/23/2012 00:12:21
TriSec on 10/23/2012 00:12:21
So, we buried my Father-in-law this morning. 'tis been a long week. But, it is done.
I should just go and crash, but here I am hanging out with all of you waiting for the main event.
Regarding the other blog, a "thermal airship" is nothing more than a directional hot-air balloon. It was an early development leading to the dirigible over a century ago. It didn't work very well then, either.
And did you know the US Navy still maintains a small blimp fleet? Strange but true. (They did yeoman work in WWII against the U-boats in these things...now they're used for drug interdiction.)
Aaand it's the B-52's birthday (I think) today. 60 years flying and still on the front lines. The DC-3 will turn 100 in 2035, and I wouldn't bet against the B-52, C-130, and Boeing 707 (airframe) making that milestone, too.
I should just go and crash, but here I am hanging out with all of you waiting for the main event.
Regarding the other blog, a "thermal airship" is nothing more than a directional hot-air balloon. It was an early development leading to the dirigible over a century ago. It didn't work very well then, either.
And did you know the US Navy still maintains a small blimp fleet? Strange but true. (They did yeoman work in WWII against the U-boats in these things...now they're used for drug interdiction.)
Aaand it's the B-52's birthday (I think) today. 60 years flying and still on the front lines. The DC-3 will turn 100 in 2035, and I wouldn't bet against the B-52, C-130, and Boeing 707 (airframe) making that milestone, too.
Comment by Raine on 10/23/2012 00:29:18
I am glad that your Father in Law is at peace, Tri. I hope Mrs. Tri is taking this as best she can.
Raine on 10/23/2012 00:29:18
Quote by TriSec:
So, we buried my Father-in-law this morning. 'tis been a long week. But, it is done.
I should just go and crash, but here I am hanging out with all of you waiting for the main event.
Regarding the other blog, a "thermal airship" is nothing more than a directional hot-air balloon. It was an early development leading to the dirigible over a century ago. It didn't work very well then, either.
And did you know the US Navy still maintains a small blimp fleet? Strange but true. (They did yeoman work in WWII against the U-boats in these things...now they're used for drug interdiction.)
Aaand it's the B-52's birthday (I think) today. 60 years flying and still on the front lines. The DC-3 will turn 100 in 2035, and I wouldn't bet against the B-52, C-130, and Boeing 707 (airframe) making that milestone, too.
I am glad that your Father in Law is at peace, Tri. I hope Mrs. Tri is taking this as best she can.
Comment by Scoopster on 10/23/2012 01:02:13
Scoopster on 10/23/2012 01:02:13
Well folks, it was nice knowin' ya. 
Comment by Raine on 10/23/2012 01:05:07
Did anyone see the VERY subtle physicality of Obama kinda
Raine on 10/23/2012 01:05:07
Quote by Scoopster:getting in Witt's face
Well folks, it was nice knowin' ya.
Did anyone see the VERY subtle physicality of Obama kinda
Comment by TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:07:03
TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:07:03
I am Romney. I speak, therefore I lie.
Comment by TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:09:44
TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:09:44
Mitt, you shouldn't be talking smack about Islam without checking what temple you go to.
Comment by livingonli on 10/23/2012 01:11:45
livingonli on 10/23/2012 01:11:45
I'm waiting for Tagg to get jumped by the secret service.
Comment by Raine on 10/23/2012 01:12:33
Raine on 10/23/2012 01:12:33
OH man.
Obama said Depends. 13 minutes in I hope Mittens has them.
Obama said Depends. 13 minutes in I hope Mittens has them.
Comment by TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:12:38
TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:12:38
I think Obama just won with that rant.
Comment by TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:14:00
TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:14:00
Like most things, I bet if we just let Russia be Russia, they'd be a little friendlier to us. Putin is no Brezhnev, that's for sure.
Comment by livingonli on 10/23/2012 01:14:16
livingonli on 10/23/2012 01:14:16
So, Mittens is going to do everything Bush did because we know how great that worked out the last time.
Comment by TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:16:30
TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:16:30
Romney seems more correct and cordial this evening, at least. But the debate is still young.
Comment by Raine on 10/23/2012 01:18:05
Correct?
That I would disagree with, Sir.
Raine on 10/23/2012 01:18:05
Quote by TriSec:
Romney seems more correct and cordial this evening, at least. But the debate is still young.
Correct?
That I would disagree with, Sir.
Comment by Scoopster on 10/23/2012 01:21:00
Scoopster on 10/23/2012 01:21:00
Oh for FUCK'S SAKE..
"Responsible party" and "responsible people" in Syria means puppet government.
And for teh record, he ACTUALLY ADVOCATED SELLING AMERICAN MADE DEATH (aka arms).
I wonder how that's gonna affect his stock portfolio?
"Responsible party" and "responsible people" in Syria means puppet government.
And for teh record, he ACTUALLY ADVOCATED SELLING AMERICAN MADE DEATH (aka arms).
I wonder how that's gonna affect his stock portfolio?
Comment by TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:21:27
TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:21:27
I meant that in the diplomatic sense - "correct and cordial". Not WRT any facts.
Comment by Raine on 10/23/2012 01:21:45
*ding*
Raine on 10/23/2012 01:21:45
Quote by Scoopster:
Oh for FUCK'S SAKE..
"Responsible party" and "responsible people" in Syria means puppet government.
And for teh record, he ACTUALLY ADVOCATED SELLING AMERICAN MADE DEATH (aka arms).
I wonder how that's gonna affect his stock portfolio?
Comment by BobR on 10/23/2012 01:23:35
BobR on 10/23/2012 01:23:35
Maybe Miss South Carolina should send Mitt a map of the Middle East
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/23/2012 01:24:07
Will in Chicago on 10/23/2012 01:24:07
So far, Romney seems to be sweating a lot and seems to be less confident. His voice seems a bit high pitched. Obama seems cool, calm and presidential.
Comment by TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:24:59
TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:24:59
Mmmm, that's like New York City shipping things to Buffalo to get to the Atlantic, innit?
Comment by Raine on 10/23/2012 01:26:05
Romney has come out of the gate much like paul Ryan -- he knows a lot of words and doesn't seem to really know what he is talking about.
Raine on 10/23/2012 01:26:05
Quote by Will in Chicago:
So far, Romney seems to be sweating a lot and seems to be less confident. His voice seems a bit high pitched. Obama seems cool, calm and presidential.
Romney has come out of the gate much like paul Ryan -- he knows a lot of words and doesn't seem to really know what he is talking about.
Comment by TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:26:38
TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:26:38
In all three debates, Romney has said "I agree with the President" on a number of issues.
Why are you running again?
Why are you running again?
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/23/2012 01:27:30
Iran has ports on the PERSIAN Gulf and the Arabian Sea. They would have to ship material through Turkey or Iran to get to Syria, TriSec. A better analogy is shipping things through Mexico to get it to Belize.
Will in Chicago on 10/23/2012 01:27:30
Quote by TriSec:
Mmmm, that's like New York City shipping things to Buffalo to get to the Atlantic, innit?
Iran has ports on the PERSIAN Gulf and the Arabian Sea. They would have to ship material through Turkey or Iran to get to Syria, TriSec. A better analogy is shipping things through Mexico to get it to Belize.
Comment by livingonli on 10/23/2012 01:27:47
If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with your bullshit.
livingonli on 10/23/2012 01:27:47
Quote by Raine:Quote by Will in Chicago:
So far, Romney seems to be sweating a lot and seems to be less confident. His voice seems a bit high pitched. Obama seems cool, calm and presidential.
Romney has come out of the gate much like paul Ryan -- he knows a lot of words and doesn't seem to really know what he is talking about.
If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with your bullshit.
Comment by TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:27:53
TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:27:53
did he just quote Ahmedinejad???
Comment by TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:30:52
TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:30:52
hey, my rightwing toolbag friend is lurking around FB.
Please make your TriSec proud.
Please make your TriSec proud.
Comment by TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:33:39
TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:33:39
Mitt, this is not in dispute. I know you can create jobs....in China.
Comment by TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:35:58
TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:35:58
Aand small business has dried up over the last few years because the banks aren't lending. This isn't the President's fault.
Comment by Raine on 10/23/2012 01:38:10
Raine on 10/23/2012 01:38:10
Wow.
Comment by Raine on 10/23/2012 01:39:10
YEs.
Raine on 10/23/2012 01:39:10
Quote by TriSec:
did he just quote Ahmedinejad???
YEs.
Comment by BobR on 10/23/2012 01:39:39
you left out
BobR on 10/23/2012 01:39:39
Quote by Scoopster:
Well folks, it was nice knowin' ya.
you left out
Comment by BobR on 10/23/2012 01:40:05
yes
BobR on 10/23/2012 01:40:05
Quote by TriSec:
did he just quote Ahmedinejad???
yes
Comment by TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:42:01
TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:42:01
Why, Romney did indeed create the John and Abigail Adams scholarships he keeps talking about.
But read the details.
But read the details.
A scholarship proposal that Governor Mitt Romney is touting to help working-class families would give the edge to richer school districts, a Globe analysis shows.
Romney's Adams Scholarship program, which he announced during his State of the State address in January, would award free public college tuition to the top quarter of MCAS scorers. Because the scholarship selection would rest solely on test scores and because wealthier students tend to score higher, the students most likely to qualify would need the help the least.
The districts with the largest share of winners under Romney's proposal are overwhelmingly affluent, suburban, and white, according to the Globe's review of MCAS scores for this year's junior class.
Comment by livingonli on 10/23/2012 01:42:05
I guess we may have to worry if any of our bloggers get alcohol poisoning in their drinking games.
livingonli on 10/23/2012 01:42:05
Quote by BobR:Quote by Scoopster:
Well folks, it was nice knowin' ya.
you left out
I guess we may have to worry if any of our bloggers get alcohol poisoning in their drinking games.
Comment by TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:43:04
TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:43:04
We have balanced budgets in this Commonwealth because it's required by State Law. Romney had very little to do with it, other than to comply.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/23/2012 01:44:24
Will in Chicago on 10/23/2012 01:44:24
Fewer horses and bayonets and not a game of battleship. I think that Obama is hammering it home.
Comment by TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:44:25
TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:44:25
Descriptions of different naval vessels? Oh, the President is schooling a petulant child tonight!
Comment by Scoopster on 10/23/2012 01:44:37
Scoopster on 10/23/2012 01:44:37
uhhh.. horses & bayonettes?! 
Comment by Raine on 10/23/2012 01:45:38
AND
BAttleship!
Raine on 10/23/2012 01:45:38
Quote by Scoopster:
uhhh.. horses & bayonettes?!
BAttleship!
Comment by Raine on 10/23/2012 01:46:13
Indeed. That exchange was AWESOME.
Raine on 10/23/2012 01:46:13
Quote by TriSec:
Descriptions of different naval vessels? Oh, the President is schooling a petulant child tonight!
Comment by Raine on 10/23/2012 01:46:56
That made me smile from ear to ear!
Raine on 10/23/2012 01:46:56
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Fewer horses and bayonets and not a game of battleship. I think that Obama is hammering it home.
Comment by TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:49:08
TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:49:08
Oh, that'll help gas prices, won't it?
Comment by TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:51:09
TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:51:09
I wouldn't be surprised if there is a back-channel deal in the works. The State Department has been absolutely brilliant under Sec. Clinton - this is totally within her powers.
Comment by TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:52:42
TriSec on 10/23/2012 01:52:42
Poor Marti (on FB). The better strategy is letting his comments "wither on the vine".
Yes, TriSec is proud now.
Yes, TriSec is proud now.
Comment by Raine on 10/23/2012 01:56:49
Raine on 10/23/2012 01:56:49
Romney is really starting to look foolish. Seriously.
Comment by BobR on 10/23/2012 02:02:07
BobR on 10/23/2012 02:02:07
If Obama says "depends" one more time, I'm going to have to make a poop joke,
Comment by TriSec on 10/23/2012 02:02:16
TriSec on 10/23/2012 02:02:16
He's in lecture-mode again!
Comment by Raine on 10/23/2012 02:02:37
Raine on 10/23/2012 02:02:37
Romney says 'Let's not talk hypotheticals" and proceeds to spew 2 minutes of hypotheticals.
Comment by TriSec on 10/23/2012 02:04:13
TriSec on 10/23/2012 02:04:13
Nice - Romney tried to pull his shit and Bob cut him off at the knees!
Comment by Raine on 10/23/2012 02:05:34
Second time tonite.
HE has done this in EVERY debate so far. What a petulant man-child.
Raine on 10/23/2012 02:05:34
Quote by TriSec:
Nice - Romney tried to pull his shit and Bob cut him off at the knees!
HE has done this in EVERY debate so far. What a petulant man-child.
Comment by Raine on 10/23/2012 02:10:07
Raine on 10/23/2012 02:10:07
Bad gaffe from Shieffer.
Comment by TriSec on 10/23/2012 02:10:24
TriSec on 10/23/2012 02:10:24
No, I'd sever relations with Pakistan. They sheltered Osama for how long? This is not an ally.
Comment by TriSec on 10/23/2012 02:12:04
TriSec on 10/23/2012 02:12:04
" I support that entirely" , so after tonight I'll be casting my vote for Obama.
Comment by BobR on 10/23/2012 02:13:05
BobR on 10/23/2012 02:13:05
And now Romney does his Rumsfeld impression.
Comment by TriSec on 10/23/2012 02:14:04
TriSec on 10/23/2012 02:14:04
I like how the President calls it "Pahk-istan". I bet he took the time to find out how it's properly pronounced.
He may have gone to Hahhhvahd, but he's no New Englander.
He may have gone to Hahhhvahd, but he's no New Englander.
Comment by TriSec on 10/23/2012 02:16:04
TriSec on 10/23/2012 02:16:04
The biggest threat to our national security is our collapsing internal infrastructure.
Eisenhower built the interstates with one purpose in mind....if we needed to move an army from Alabama to New England to repel an invasion, I doubt we could do that now.
Eisenhower built the interstates with one purpose in mind....if we needed to move an army from Alabama to New England to repel an invasion, I doubt we could do that now.
Comment by Raine on 10/23/2012 02:18:53
Raine on 10/23/2012 02:18:53
Mitt is Now defending China.
Comment by Raine on 10/23/2012 02:19:37
=))
Raine on 10/23/2012 02:19:37
Quote by TriSec:
I like how the President calls it "Pahk-istan". I bet he took the time to find out how it's properly pronounced.
He may have gone to Hahhhvahd, but he's no New Englander.
Comment by TriSec on 10/23/2012 02:21:00
TriSec on 10/23/2012 02:21:00
"Currency manipulator" is a made-up term.
If we want to implement tariffs, there is no rule stopping us from doing so right now - other than the fact that it would be impolitic to do so.
I have always believed that there should be a tariff that makes a product cost $0.01 more to make in China than the US - those jobs would come back, because big business only cares about their profit margin.
If we want to implement tariffs, there is no rule stopping us from doing so right now - other than the fact that it would be impolitic to do so.
I have always believed that there should be a tariff that makes a product cost $0.01 more to make in China than the US - those jobs would come back, because big business only cares about their profit margin.
Comment by Raine on 10/23/2012 02:29:08
Tri, Pretty much everything tat Mitt has said tonite has been made up.
Raine on 10/23/2012 02:29:08
Quote by TriSec:
"Currency manipulator" is a made-up term.
If we want to implement tariffs, there is no rule stopping us from doing so right now - other than the fact that it would be impolitic to do so.
I have always believed that there should be a tariff that makes a product cost $0.01 more to make in China than the US - those jobs would come back, because big business only cares about their profit margin.
Comment by TriSec on 10/23/2012 02:33:10
TriSec on 10/23/2012 02:33:10
*sigh* Back to what?
Comment by TriSec on 10/23/2012 02:34:13
TriSec on 10/23/2012 02:34:13
Devastating.
Tonight's debate had the feel of a college freshman going up against a longtime professor in his first mock-debate.
Tonight's debate had the feel of a college freshman going up against a longtime professor in his first mock-debate.
Comment by livingonli on 10/23/2012 02:34:45
livingonli on 10/23/2012 02:34:45
Let's forget that whole "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt" Op-Ed.
Comment by TriSec on 10/23/2012 02:36:36
TriSec on 10/23/2012 02:36:36
And now I am going to skip the post-mortems. It's been a long day.
Good night, all.
Good night, all.
Comment by Raine on 10/23/2012 02:40:52
This was incredible.
Raine on 10/23/2012 02:40:52
Quote by TriSec:
Devastating.
Tonight's debate had the feel of a college freshman going up against a longtime professor in his first mock-debate.
Comment by Raine on 10/23/2012 02:42:39
Raine on 10/23/2012 02:42:39
Why was Ann Romney holding Mitt like he was going to fall?
(I was watching an the Span, and it was a LOT disconcerting.)
(I was watching an the Span, and it was a LOT disconcerting.)
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/23/2012 03:04:44
Mitt looked like he was sweating a bit and I think he looked a bit thin and tired. His color seemed off. So, I must ask was Mitt trying to appeal to the Oompa Loompa vote in Florida?
Will in Chicago on 10/23/2012 03:04:44
Quote by Raine:
Why was Ann Romney holding Mitt like he was going to fall?
(I was watching an the Span, and it was a LOT disconcerting.)
Mitt looked like he was sweating a bit and I think he looked a bit thin and tired. His color seemed off. So, I must ask was Mitt trying to appeal to the Oompa Loompa vote in Florida?