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Author: TriSec    Date: 01/15/2013 11:06:45

Good Morning.

Today is our 4,118th day in Afghanistan.

We'll start this morning as we always do; with the latest casualty figures from our ongoing war, courtesy of Antiwar.com:

US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 2,175
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 1,081

We find this morning's cost of war passing through:

$ 1, 413, 410, 325, 000 .00


Next this morning, we'll turn to valor. It's something we actually rarely talk about here at ask a vet, but today we'll take a moment to recognize America's newest recipient of the Medal of Honor.


An Army sergeant who ignored his battle wounds to take out the enemy, rescue the injured and retrieve the dead during an ambush by 300 fighters in Afghanistan will receive the Medal of Honor, the White House announced Friday.

Staff Sgt. Clinton Romesha, 31, who has since left the military, will be only the fourth living service member awarded the nation's top honor for courage in Iraq or Afghanistan.

His citation says he is being recognized for "acts of gallantry and intrepity" when fighters attacked Combat Outpost Keating from all sides with rocket-propelled grenades, machine guns, mortars and rifles on Oct. 3, 2009, igniting a daylong battle.

Romesha, a father of three, rousted reinforcements and then engaged in battle with the help of an assistant gunner. After taking out one machine-gun team, he set his sights on a second and suffered shrapnel wounds when a grenade hit a generator he was using for cover.

"Undeterred by his injuries, Staff Sergeant Romesha continued to fight and upon the arrival of another soldier to aid him and the assistant gunner, he again rushed through the exposed avenue to assemble additional soldiers," the citation says.
"With complete disregard for his own safety, (he) continually exposed himself to heavy enemy fire as he moved confidently about the battlefield engaging and destroying multiple enemy targets."

At the same time, Romesha was orchestrating a plan to secure key points of the battlefield — and directing air support to knock out a band of 30 heavily armed fighters who were attacking "with even greater ferocity."

He and his team also provided cover so that three wounded soldiers could get to an aid station, then "pushed forward 100 meters under withering fire, to recover the bodies of their fallen comrades."

Eight soldiers were killed in the battle, chronicled in the book "The Outpost," by journalist Jake Tapper, who described Romesha as "an intense guy, short and wiry," the son of a Mormon church leader who had attended seminary before joining the military.

Romesha, according to the book, never lost his cool — playing "peekaboo" with a sniper so he could get a bead on him, smiling as bullets ricocheted around him.


In addition to Ssgt Romesha, another MOH application is under review. Marine Sgt. Peralta threw himself on a grenade some 8 years ago in Iraq to save his comrades. Five such Medals of Honor were awarded for similar action on Iwo Jima long ago, so I'm not sure why this award is being held up.


The Navy Department’s top official said he supports a fallen Marine receiving the nation’s highest combat valor award for his heroics in Iraq eight years ago.

Navy Secretary Ray Mabus said Monday the decision rests with Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, boosting anticipation Panetta will overturn an earlier, controversial decision to award Sgt. Rafael Peralta the lesser — though still prestigious — Navy Cross. The Navy Department acknowledged earlier this year that it was reviewing new evidence in the case that proponents of Peralta say should result in his award being upgraded.

Peralta, 25, is credited with saving the lives of several Marines by smothering a grenade and absorbing the full brunt of its blast during house-to-house fighting in Fallujah, Iraq, on Nov. 15, 2004. He is considered one of the most famous Marine heroes of the Iraq war.

Mabus made the remark during an unrelated Navy Cross ceremony for Marine Sgt. William Soutra, who received the nation’s second-highest valor award at Camp Pendleton, Calif., for heroism in Afghanistan in 2010.

Peralta’s case is a complicated one. Four years ago, then-Defense Secretary Robert Gates denied Peralta’s nomination for the Medal of Honor, infuriating the Marine’s family and Marines across the country. His family refused to accept the Navy Cross.

Gates decided in 2008 that the evidence in Peralta’s case was inconclusive, saying it is unclear whether the Marine made a conscious decision to smother the grenade because he already had been mortally wounded in the head by a ricocheting rifle round. In awarding Peralta the Navy Cross, the Navy Department said in his award citation that he had “reached out and pulled the grenade to his body” — a selfless, heroic act typically associated exclusively with the Medal of Honor.

The Navy Department acknowledged in March that it was reviewing a new pathology report and two videos recorded by fellow Marines on the scene after the blast. Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., a Marine officer who served in Iraq and Afghanistan, has pushed hard for the review.

Panetta’s staff is still reviewing Hunter’s request, said Eileen Lainez, a Pentagon spokesman, on Tuesday. She declined additional comment.


Finally this morning...we do need to look at some veteran's issues. Paul Rieckhoff posted this to the book of face last night, and it's presented here for your review.


WASHINGTON (AP) — Suicides in the U.S. military surged to a record 349 last year, far exceeding American combat deaths in Afghanistan, and some private experts are predicting the dark trend will grow worse this year.

The Pentagon has struggled to deal with the suicides, which Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and others have called an epidemic. The problem reflects severe strains on military personnel burdened with more than a decade of combat in Afghanistan and Iraq, complicated by anxiety over the prospect of being forced out of a shrinking force.

Pentagon figures obtained Monday by The Associated Press show that the 349 suicides among active-duty troops last year were up from 301 the year before and exceeded the Pentagon's own internal projection of 325. Statistics alone do not explain why troops take their own lives, and the Pentagon's military and civilian leaders have acknowledged that more needs to be done to understand the causes.

Last year's total is the highest since the Pentagon began closely tracking suicides in 2001. It exceeds the 295 Americans who died in Afghanistan last year, by the AP's count.

Some in Congress are pressing the Pentagon to do more.

"This is an epidemic that cannot be ignored," Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash., said Monday. "As our newest generation of service members and veterans face unprecedented challenges, today's news shows we must be doing more to ensure they are not slipping through the cracks."



But, you can't tell that to a Republican. He wants proof that services have been cut and the GOP is obstructionist when it comes to veteran's issues. There's no winning here, is there?
 

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Comment by wickedpam on 01/15/2013 13:38:40
Morning

Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2013 14:00:20
Morning, comrades.

I am rather dismayed to learn that "Big C" has struck again...at both Scouts and LL Bean.

Our Council International Representative, a Mr. Ray Theberge, lost his wife over the weekend to a cancer of unknown type.

And yet another dear friend at the store was just diagnosed with breast cancer. That now makes 4 of us in active treatment, plus another 5 or 6 survivors.

What the holy hell is going on around here?

Comment by Scoopster on 01/15/2013 14:22:21
Mornin' all..

Raine, did you get my text last night?

Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 14:22:27
Stories like this give me human shame.

What the hell is wrong with these people?

Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 14:22:54
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..

Raine, did you get my text last night?
I'll go check right now...


Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 14:25:38
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..

Raine, did you get my text last night?

UGh, that was not something I wanted to see.

Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2013 14:31:37
Quote by Raine:
Stories like this give me human shame.

What the hell is wrong with these people?


It's all the same.

Pearl Harbor, JFK, Moon landings, 9-11, Obama's birth certificate...

We seem to be 'blessed' with an unusual number of small-brained folks in these United States. As I mused yesterday, I wonder what it is that makes people so stupid about these things? (And I must include myself, as many lively discussions here with Mondo over the grassy knoll will attest...)


Comment by wickedpam on 01/15/2013 14:31:45
seriously, why is it that people can't understand that a bad graphic is not going to look better in color - its still a bad, blurry graphic

oh and then proceed to tell me how to design an invitation by adding a picture of something that has nothing to do with the event you want to invite customers too

Comment by Scoopster on 01/15/2013 14:35:38
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..

Raine, did you get my text last night?

UGh, that was not something I wanted to see.

Yeah.. I can't say it was pleasant when I discovered it either.

For everyone not in the loop - I was visiting my best friend & helping her move into her new apartment this past weekend. When I was sleeping she went in my wallet, grabbed my credit card, did an online western union to herself & drained my account. I'm not sure what the motivation was, but I know she's a recovering oxycontin/heroin addict. The loss of trust and money stings, but more than anything I just hope she didn't shoot it up her arm.

Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 14:36:44
Quote by wickedpam:
seriously, why is it that people can't understand that a bad graphic is not going to look better in color - its still a bad, blurry graphic

oh and then proceed to tell me how to design an invitation by adding a picture of something that has nothing to do with the event you want to invite customers too
Oh, I totally understand that kinda frustration. I'm with you.


Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 14:39:36
Mary Mary Mary

Comment by wickedpam on 01/15/2013 14:40:44
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
seriously, why is it that people can't understand that a bad graphic is not going to look better in color - its still a bad, blurry graphic

oh and then proceed to tell me how to design an invitation by adding a picture of something that has nothing to do with the event you want to invite customers too
Oh, I totally understand that kinda frustration. I'm with you.


Knew you would Would you put a pix of the Air Force Memorial spires on the invitation for a wine trade show? It seems highly inappropriate to me and it has nothing to do with anything event other then the event over looks the memorial. And it doesn't even go with the paper that was chosen by me and my big boss for the event.

Told the field manager to leave the designing to me, it'll only be there if it looks nice.


Comment by wickedpam on 01/15/2013 14:41:22
Quote by Raine:
Mary Mary Mary



headache in my eye


Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2013 14:44:27
Quote by Scoopster:

Yeah.. I can't say it was pleasant when I discovered it either.

For everyone not in the loop - I was visiting my best friend & helping her move into her new apartment this past weekend. When I was sleeping she went in my wallet, grabbed my credit card, did an online western union to herself & drained my account. I'm not sure what the motivation was, but I know she's a recovering oxycontin/heroin addict. The loss of trust and money stings, but more than anything I just hope she didn't shoot it up her arm.


Oh, man. My best friend is in the same boat. (pills and alcohol). Regrettably, it almost certainly landed in her arm. I too have had the loss of trust thing, and of course he always asked me for money whenever I saw him in recent years. He is better now (rehab and AA), but it's an ongoing battle. He was clear for about 8 years, but then got fired from his job and dumped by his boyfriend within 2 weeks of each other and he fell off the wagon again. (He's clean for about 18 months now.)

I myself had oxycontin after my surgery...I quit taking them as soon as it didn't hurt so much, but with the weird and wonderful side effects I had, I can see how it can be addicting.


Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 14:44:34
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
seriously, why is it that people can't understand that a bad graphic is not going to look better in color - its still a bad, blurry graphic

oh and then proceed to tell me how to design an invitation by adding a picture of something that has nothing to do with the event you want to invite customers too
Oh, I totally understand that kinda frustration. I'm with you.


Knew you would Would you put a pix of the Air Force Memorial spires on the invitation for a wine trade show? It seems highly inappropriate to me and it has nothing to do with anything event other then the event over looks the memorial. And it doesn't even go with the paper that was chosen by me and my big boss for the event.

Told the field manager to leave the designing to me, it'll only be there if it looks nice.
Ooof. Yeah -- people who think they are art directors... yeah.... I want them to go to storage room B


Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 14:44:58
MAry just called Al Sharpton a Scumbag?

Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2013 14:48:00
See now, "overlooking the memorial" would be enough for me; I'd use the image. But then again, the Air Force Memorial is completely unknown to me (I had to look it up), and seeing that....well, this is for a wine show?

How about some folks sitting on a patio, with some recognizeable part of the DC skyline behind them, and a nice bottle of chianti on the table?



Comment by wickedpam on 01/15/2013 14:49:06
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..

Raine, did you get my text last night?

UGh, that was not something I wanted to see.

Yeah.. I can't say it was pleasant when I discovered it either.

For everyone not in the loop - I was visiting my best friend & helping her move into her new apartment this past weekend. When I was sleeping she went in my wallet, grabbed my credit card, did an online western union to herself & drained my account. I'm not sure what the motivation was, but I know she's a recovering oxycontin/heroin addict. The loss of trust and money stings, but more than anything I just hope she didn't shoot it up her arm.


OMG! I hope you reported her butt to the police - what a way to repay your kindness. Did you contact you cc company?


Comment by wickedpam on 01/15/2013 14:50:00
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
seriously, why is it that people can't understand that a bad graphic is not going to look better in color - its still a bad, blurry graphic

oh and then proceed to tell me how to design an invitation by adding a picture of something that has nothing to do with the event you want to invite customers too
Oh, I totally understand that kinda frustration. I'm with you.


Knew you would Would you put a pix of the Air Force Memorial spires on the invitation for a wine trade show? It seems highly inappropriate to me and it has nothing to do with anything event other then the event over looks the memorial. And it doesn't even go with the paper that was chosen by me and my big boss for the event.

Told the field manager to leave the designing to me, it'll only be there if it looks nice.
Ooof. Yeah -- people who think they are art directors... yeah.... I want them to go to storage room B


they don't even get to keep the red stapler


Comment by wickedpam on 01/15/2013 14:52:54
Quote by TriSec:
See now, "overlooking the memorial" would be enough for me; I'd use the image. But then again, the Air Force Memorial is completely unknown to me (I had to look it up), and seeing that....well, this is for a wine show?

How about some folks sitting on a patio, with some recognizeable part of the DC skyline behind them, and a nice bottle of chianti on the table?




If I was creating from scratch it would be nice in sillhoutte but the paper that we decided on was something I already have in stock and has a design on it

Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 15:00:20
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2013/130114-make-your-mind-up-nra.jpg


Comment by Scoopster on 01/15/2013 15:00:42
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..

Raine, did you get my text last night?

UGh, that was not something I wanted to see.

Yeah.. I can't say it was pleasant when I discovered it either.

For everyone not in the loop - I was visiting my best friend & helping her move into her new apartment this past weekend. When I was sleeping she went in my wallet, grabbed my credit card, did an online western union to herself & drained my account. I'm not sure what the motivation was, but I know she's a recovering oxycontin/heroin addict. The loss of trust and money stings, but more than anything I just hope she didn't shoot it up her arm.


OMG! I hope you reported her butt to the police - what a way to repay your kindness. Did you contact you cc company?

I called the bank and had my card cancelled as soon as I discovered it, and I have to go fill out paperwork/affidavits at the local branch today so they can do their thing & reimburse me (my rent check's gonna overdraft too so they said any fees would get reversed once the investigation was done).

The police will be involved via the bank either way, but if I can avoid going too far down that road I will. She needs help and an intervention, not jail time.

Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 15:01:08
Tri, don't know if you have last nights TRMS podcast -- it was amazing and heartbreaking.

Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2013 15:03:09
And now TriSec has just managed to pour a could cup of yesterday's tea UP his sleeve.

Don't ask.

I think I should go home now.



Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2013 15:04:43
Quote by Raine:
Tri, don't know if you have last nights TRMS podcast -- it was amazing and heartbreaking.


I do - I was headed for the coffee machine before I had the unfortunate tea incident. That's up next on the listening schedule.


Comment by wickedpam on 01/15/2013 15:06:45
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..

Raine, did you get my text last night?

UGh, that was not something I wanted to see.

Yeah.. I can't say it was pleasant when I discovered it either.

For everyone not in the loop - I was visiting my best friend & helping her move into her new apartment this past weekend. When I was sleeping she went in my wallet, grabbed my credit card, did an online western union to herself & drained my account. I'm not sure what the motivation was, but I know she's a recovering oxycontin/heroin addict. The loss of trust and money stings, but more than anything I just hope she didn't shoot it up her arm.


OMG! I hope you reported her butt to the police - what a way to repay your kindness. Did you contact you cc company?

I called the bank and had my card cancelled as soon as I discovered it, and I have to go fill out paperwork/affidavits at the local branch today so they can do their thing & reimburse me (my rent check's gonna overdraft too so they said any fees would get reversed once the investigation was done).

The police will be involved via the bank either way, but if I can avoid going too far down that road I will. She needs help and an intervention, not jail time.


I know she's your bff but maybe this is the only way she can see she needs help. Maybe this is her bottom.


Comment by BobR on 01/15/2013 15:18:21
Quote by TriSec:
And now TriSec has just managed to pour a could cup of yesterday's tea UP his sleeve.

Don't ask.

I think I should go home now.

Excellent job defying the laws of gravity!

Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2013 15:24:50
Quote by BobR:

Excellent job defying the laws of gravity!


Captain Chemo at your service! I have a Superpower!!

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101030121606/britishcomics/images/3/35/Bananaman.jpg


Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2013 15:32:32
Quote by Raine:
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2013/130114-make-your-mind-up-nra.jpg


Ya know, video games have no bearing. I recently re-loaded an old favorite, "Medal of Honor - Allied Assault", which is a WWII FPS game. I was never any good at it, but Javi seems to have picked up the concept quickly and has already progressed past my best score.

Yet he remains a highly sensitive individual, and is gentle and caring with his rodent and frog, and still is learning and teaching things to our younger Scouts with reasonable competency.

I dunno, maybe it's the parents and the home environment that make a difference here. Hell, I don't even let him crash planes in the simulator anymore. We're actually trying to pilot them now.

(Who knows, maybe fighting a couple of virtual battles might spark an interest in some history, like his papa.)




Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 15:33:59
I know it probably old news to everyone by now, but NYS managed to get even tougher gun control laws passed.

in a bipartisan way:
The state Senate, controlled by a coalition of Republicans and a handful of Democrats, approved the legislative package just after 11 p.m. by a lopsided vote of 43 to 18. The Assembly, where Democrats who have been strongly supportive of gun control have an overwhelming majority, planned to vote on the measure Tuesday.
...

The expanded ban on assault weapons would broaden the definition of such weapons, banning semiautomatic pistols and rifles with detachable magazines and one military-style feature, as well as semiautomatic shotguns with one military-style feature. New Yorkers who already own such guns could keep them but would be required to register them with the state.

“The message out there is so clear after Newtown,” said the Assembly speaker, Sheldon Silver, a Democrat from Manhattan. “To basically eradicate assault weapons from our streets in New York as quickly as possible is something the people of this state want.”

In an acknowledgment that many people have suggested that part of the solution to gun violence is a better government response to mental illness, the legislation includes not only new restrictions on gun ownership, but also efforts to limit access to guns by the mentally ill.

The most significant new proposal would require mental health professionals to report to local mental health officials when they believe that patients are likely to harm themselves or others. Law enforcement would then be authorized to confiscate any firearm owned by a dangerous patient; therapists would not be sanctioned for a failure to report such patients if they acted “in good faith.”






Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2013 15:36:04
Beau Biden - " If folks want military arms, maybe they should join the National Guard or the Army."

Something I've been advocating for years.



Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 15:37:23
Quote by TriSec: Ya know, video games have no bearing. I recently re-loaded an old favorite, "Medal of Honor - Allied Assault", which is a WWII FPS game. I was never any good at it, but Javi seems to have picked up the concept quickly and has already progressed past my best score.

Yet he remains a highly sensitive individual, and is gentle and caring with his rodent and frog, and still is learning and teaching things to our younger Scouts with reasonable competency.

I dunno, maybe it's the parents and the home environment that make a difference here. Hell, I don't even let him crash planes in the simulator anymore. We're actually trying to pilot them now.

(Who knows, maybe fighting a couple of virtual battles might spark an interest in some history, like his papa.)
I don;t think they really do either, but for the NRA to say it's the video games and then to come out with this app... that is just egregiously hypocritical.


Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 15:38:25
Quote by TriSec:
Beau Biden - " If folks want military arms, maybe they should join the National Guard or the Army."

Something I've been advocating for years.

We thought of you when he said that last night.

Comment by Scoopster on 01/15/2013 15:38:48
Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2013 15:48:41


Nice. Where do I sign?


Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 15:52:12
I had to see it for myself, but right now our glorious house of representatives is at work on the House floor -- they are reading the constitution.

Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2013 15:52:34
Benjamin Wheeler was one of the Tiger Scouts killed.

Dammit.



Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 15:54:21
you think they'll pay attention to Article I, section 8?

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and GENERAL WELFARE of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;


Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 15:55:10
Quote by TriSec:
Benjamin Wheeler was one of the Tiger Scouts killed.

Dammit.

I wasn't aware that was him. His parents are just amazing.


Comment by wickedpam on 01/15/2013 15:57:07
Quote by Raine:
I had to see it for myself, but right now our glorious house of representatives is at work on the House floor -- they are reading the constitution.



again

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/15/2013 16:00:46
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
I had to see it for myself, but right now our glorious house of representatives is at work on the House floor -- they are reading the constitution.



again


They're slow learners.

Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 16:01:06
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
I had to see it for myself, but right now our glorious house of representatives is at work on the House floor -- they are reading the constitution.



again
It's such a dog and pony show.

First graders can read pretty much anything -- it's the UNDERSTANDING part that is the issue. Congress is acting less mature than a first grader.


Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 16:01:52
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
I had to see it for myself, but right now our glorious house of representatives is at work on the House floor -- they are reading the constitution.



again


They're slow learners.

Speaking of Slow, how quickly till you leave? I just read you are getting sprung!

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/15/2013 16:02:16
Gonna crack my knuckles and jump for joy! Gotta clean bill of health from Dr. McCoy!

Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/15/2013 16:03:51
Good morning, bloggers!! TriSec, thanks for a great blog. We need to address the epidemic of veteran suicides and other problems. Many people are going from the battlefield to becoming homeless.

I hope that Mondo comes home soon. It has been a rough year for our friend and I want him to know that he is loved and supported through this.

In some good news, I checked in with a principal that I interviewed with a week ago. He is swamped with a lot of work, and will have some more candidates interviewing for the job. He will let me know by Friday about the position that opens up on February 1st. I should hear tomorrow or Thursday on the position that I interviewed last Friday, where I would teach English and History.

Now for some very good news. My grand niece Emily Rose is home from the hospital.



Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/15/2013 16:05:03
Quote by Mondobubba:
Gonna crack my knuckles and jump for joy! Gotta clean bill of health from Dr. McCoy!



You must have posted this as I was typing. I hope that you get home soon!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!!


Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2013 16:05:16
Quote by Mondobubba:
Gonna crack my knuckles and jump for joy! Gotta clean bill of health from Dr. McCoy!


Stepping out to Eden, eh brother?


Comment by wickedpam on 01/15/2013 16:07:20
Yay! Everyone getting sprung from the hospital!

Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 16:08:22
Art from Chicago resurfaces!

Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 16:09:45
Quote by wickedpam:
Yay! Everyone getting sprung from the hospital!
I'm cheering with you!


Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2013 16:11:32
Comment by wickedpam on 01/15/2013 16:11:40
Quote by Raine:
Art from Chicago resurfaces!


blaming single parents






Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 16:12:30
In honor of Art and his desire for love...

"Where Is The Love?"

What's wrong with the world, mama
People livin' like they ain't got no mamas
I think the whole world addicted to the drama
Only attracted to things that'll bring you trauma

Overseas, yeah, we try to stop terrorism
But we still got terrorists here livin'
In the USA, the big CIA
The Bloods and The Crips and the KKK

But if you only have love for your own race
Then you only leave space to discriminate
And to discriminate only generates hate
And when you hate then you're bound to get irate, yeah

Madness is what you demonstrate
And that's exactly how anger works and operates
Man, you gotta have love just to set it straight
Take control of your mind and meditate
Let your soul gravitate to the love, y'all, y'all

People killin', people dyin'
Children hurt and you hear them cryin'
Can you practice what you preach
And would you turn the other cheek

Father, Father, Father help us
Send some guidance from above
'Cause people got me, got me questionin'
Where is the love (Love)

Where is the love (The love)
Where is the love (The love)
Where is the love, the love, the love

It just ain't the same, always unchanged
New days are strange, is the world insane
If love and peace are so strong
Why are there pieces of love that don't belong

Nations droppin' bombs
Chemical gasses fillin' lungs of little ones
With ongoin' sufferin' as the youth die young
So ask yourself is the lovin' really gone

So I could ask myself really what is goin' wrong
In this world that we livin' in people keep on givin' in
Makin' wrong decisions, only visions of them dividends
Not respectin' each other, deny thy brother
A war is goin' on but the reason's undercover

The truth is kept secret, it's swept under the rug
If you never know truth then you never know love
Where's the love, y'all, come on (I don't know)
Where's the truth, y'all, come on (I don't know)
Where's the love, y'all

People killin', people dyin'
Children hurt and you hear them cryin'
Can you practice what you preach
And would you turn the other cheek

Father, Father, Father help us
Send some guidance from above
'Cause people got me, got me questionin'
Where is the love (Love)

Where is the love (The love)?
Where is the love (The love)?
Where is the love, the love, the love?

I feel the weight of the world on my shoulder
As I'm gettin' older, y'all, people gets colder
Most of us only care about money makin'
Selfishness got us followin' our wrong direction

Wrong information always shown by the media
Negative images is the main criteria
Infecting the young minds faster than bacteria
Kids wanna act like what they see in the cinema

Yo', whatever happened to the values of humanity
Whatever happened to the fairness in equality
Instead of spreading love we're spreading animosity
Lack of understanding, leading us away from unity

That's the reason why sometimes I'm feelin' under
That's the reason why sometimes I'm feelin' down
There's no wonder why sometimes I'm feelin' under
Gotta keep my faith alive till love is found
Now ask yourself

Where is the love?
Where is the love?
Where is the love?
Where is the love?

Father, Father, Father, help us
Send some guidance from above
'Cause people got me, got me questionin'
Where is the love?

Sing with me y'all:
One world, one world (We only got)
One world, one world (That's all we got)
One world, one world
And something's wrong with it (Yeah)
Something's wrong with it (Yeah)
Something's wrong with the wo-wo-world, yeah
We only got
(One world, one world)
That's all we got
(One world, one world)


Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 16:13:53
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Art from Chicago resurfaces!


blaming single parents




Yeah... But it was Art -- I thought he did ok, considering, it was ART.


Comment by livingonli on 01/15/2013 16:15:28
Good morning, folks. Maybe Art and Road Flare Mary can be hooked up and then choke on a pack of cigarettes. The more I hear the stupid from the right, the less hope I have.

Comment by wickedpam on 01/15/2013 16:16:48
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Art from Chicago resurfaces!


blaming single parents




Yeah... But it was Art -- I thought he did ok, considering, it was ART.


true - and it is good to hear he's still alive and kicking


Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2013 16:26:25
Say gang...it's the anniversary of my favorite disaster....

http://im.glogster.com/media/4/27/84/77/27847766.jpg


Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 16:27:20
BILLY FROM TEXAS IS BACK TOO!

Holy moly....

Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 16:28:25
I'd rather listen to Art than Billy.

Comment by livingonli on 01/15/2013 16:30:27
The talking points are making my head hurt.

Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 16:31:46
For those that say the President should be impeached for signing executive orders... just give them this link.



Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 16:33:22
Quote by Raine:
For those that say the President should be impeached for signing executive orders... just give them this link.

291 Total Executive orders Issued

Comment by wickedpam on 01/15/2013 16:37:18
That's actually a kinda cool idea from Steph - send a debt collector to Boenher's office

Comment by livingonli on 01/15/2013 16:40:07
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
For those that say the President should be impeached for signing executive orders... just give them this link.

291 Total Executive orders Issued

And then you'll hear the sound of crickets chirping.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/15/2013 16:44:24
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
For those that say the President should be impeached for signing executive orders... just give them this link.

291 Total Executive orders Issued



Ah, but will facts matter to Road Flare Mary, Art from Chicago and Billy from Texas. Probably not. They seem to be walking around in a fact free zone, afraid of anything that will challenge their world views.

Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 16:46:45
Quote by wickedpam:
That's actually a kinda cool idea from Steph - send a debt collector to Boenher's office
I can see an activist group doing that.


Comment by Mondobubba on 01/15/2013 16:54:26
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
I had to see it for myself, but right now our glorious house of representatives is at work on the House floor -- they are reading the constitution.



again


They're slow learners.

Speaking of Slow, how quickly till you leave? I just read you are getting sprung!


As soon as my fellow Virgo, Nurse Brad brings the paper work for me to sign. Dr Melyncuk, the Eastern European analog to Antonio Bandaras, says I'm medical mystery. No real cause that they could figure out for the gastro-ineteritis.

Comment by livingonli on 01/15/2013 16:59:05
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
For those that say the President should be impeached for signing executive orders... just give them this link.

291 Total Executive orders Issued



Ah, but will facts matter to Road Flare Mary, Art from Chicago and Billy from Texas. Probably not. They seem to be walking around in a fact free zone, afraid of anything that will challenge their world views.

Which is what happens when you get your news from Fox. It seems like there is more than enough evidence that Fox News viewers don't really want the facts about the world but just reinforcement of their own views.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/15/2013 17:01:04
Raine, as you have referred to the paper, "The Hidden History of the Second Amendment" by Professor Carl T. Bogus, here is a link to the 102 pages of the PDF file. Feel free to throw it at people who believe that you should have the right to own any sort of hand held weapon.

Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 17:09:35
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Raine, as you have referred to the paper, "The Hidden History of the Second Amendment" by Professor Carl T. Bogus, here is a link to the 102 pages of the PDF file. Feel free to throw it at people who believe that you should have the right to own any sort of hand held weapon.
Oh wow! Thanks Will!


Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 17:14:22
YOu know, Ed discussing his twitter fights are just redundant.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/15/2013 17:23:00
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Raine, as you have referred to the paper, "The Hidden History of the Second Amendment" by Professor Carl T. Bogus, here is a link to the 102 pages of the PDF file. Feel free to throw it at people who believe that you should have the right to own any sort of hand held weapon.
Oh wow! Thanks Will!



I try to split my time between Stephanie and Nicole Sandler, who is very good with long interviews. (She had a guest who lives in the UK. Surprise, the conservatives are starting to privatize their national health service and their buddies are making money. Crony capitalism at its finest.

One of the listeners found the paper, which I will try to read. I think that perusing this paper will be very useful in arguing for some limits on gun ownership.

As for Ed discussing his twitter fights, it does him little good.


Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2013 17:23:32
Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/15/2013 17:30:26



This is a good step, as would redesigning the platforms to help prevent such incidents.

Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2013 17:47:35
Has everyone been to Disney?

The monorail has a fence along the edge near the "pit". There are gates that open when the monorail pulls in to allow people to pass on board.

But this requires that the train stop in the same place every time in order to line up with the gates. That doesn't always happen in the subway.


Comment by wickedpam on 01/15/2013 17:50:22
Quote by TriSec:
Has everyone been to Disney?

The monorail has a fence along the edge near the "pit". There are gates that open when the monorail pulls in to allow people to pass on board.

But this requires that the train stop in the same place every time in order to line up with the gates. That doesn't always happen in the subway.


I thought the monorail was to coolest thing ever when I was a kid - like we were on our way to flying cars and mod fashions


Comment by wickedpam on 01/15/2013 17:53:08
Quote by Will in Chicago:



This is a good step, as would redesigning the platforms to help prevent such incidents.



as a passenger it would be far less jarring when coming to a stop - there have been times I thought I was going to slide out of my seat on the metro cause they hit the brakes so fast

Comment by livingonli on 01/15/2013 17:57:17
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by TriSec:
Has everyone been to Disney?

The monorail has a fence along the edge near the "pit". There are gates that open when the monorail pulls in to allow people to pass on board.

But this requires that the train stop in the same place every time in order to line up with the gates. That doesn't always happen in the subway.


I thought the monorail was to coolest thing ever when I was a kid - like we were on our way to flying cars and mod fashions

I do love the monorail but I wonder if we will ever see the flying cars.

Comment by wickedpam on 01/15/2013 18:00:55
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by TriSec:
Has everyone been to Disney?

The monorail has a fence along the edge near the "pit". There are gates that open when the monorail pulls in to allow people to pass on board.

But this requires that the train stop in the same place every time in order to line up with the gates. That doesn't always happen in the subway.


I thought the monorail was to coolest thing ever when I was a kid - like we were on our way to flying cars and mod fashions

I do love the monorail but I wonder if we will ever see the flying cars.


people can't drive car's all the well, kinda doubting that they'll ever let us have ones that fly


Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2013 18:08:08
Ah, it's unfortunate that monorail transit is so entrenced with "theme park".

It's far more efficient than a subway or elevated railway, and it takes up less footprint and shades much less than a similar "traditional" railway would. It's quieter and cleaner....and of course, much cooler.

The downside is they are freakishly expensive to build.

Boston would benefit by a monorail link between North and South Station...it's less than two miles, but there is no direct bus link, and you have to take two subway lines to make the transfer. (typical New England....competing railways in the 19th century led to two different train stations being built, with no way to interconnect them.)

Anyway...


Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 19:06:18
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Will in Chicago:



This is a good step, as would redesigning the platforms to help prevent such incidents.



as a passenger it would be far less jarring when coming to a stop - there have been times I thought I was going to slide out of my seat on the metro cause they hit the brakes so fast
WMATA, unlike the NYC subway system has far wider platforms.

I agree about the sudden stopped and goes on Metro, but honestly -- I think because I am I accustomed to NYC it really isn't that bad.

I don;t see how redesigning the platforms would wrk in NYC -- that would require a complete and total rework of it.

Slowing down upon entering the station does make sense.




Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2013 19:20:32
Oog, I forgot how long the "Leningrad" symphony is...been at this since lunchtime.



Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2013 19:25:15
I win!

Pack 250's current cubmaster is severing ties with the Fitzgerald School, something I have been calling on for the past 3 years.

They fucked us over one too many times, and he's finally had enough.

This actually makes me very happy....and gives me another plank in my campaign platform. There are significant administrative issues with the facilities department in this city.



Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2013 19:51:23
For Mondo...


After Francona and the Red Sox “mutually” decided to part ways, Henry was unable to attend the press conference because he was injured when he fell on his yacht. Henry’s wife posted on Twitter the following morning, “Happy John is home! He slipped down stairs, injuring his neck. Kept at hospital at precaution, but was home for the derby.”

Shaughnessy wrote: “The owner, who’d been unable to attend the press conference announcing the firing of the manager who brought two World Series titles to Boston, made it home in time to watch Liverpool beat Everton 2-0 in the Merseyside derby.”


I told you the Sox ownership was more interested in Liverpool now, and this is why the Red Sox suck. I'd half-expect them to sell somebody vital to the Yankees to get some funds to sign a marquee footballer to their overseas interest.


Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/15/2013 19:56:10
Have I told you lately how much I despise Ann Coulter?

Coulter: 'Not a gun problem," U.S. has "demographic problem" with non-whites.

If there is a Hell, surely Ann Coulter has a place set aside for her. This woman pushes hatred of others as much as any pusher ever tried to sell heroin.


Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 20:05:54
Well, WalMart -- you surprise me.

WalMart vows to hire Vets

and more...
The plan includes hiring more than 100,000 veterans in the next five years, spending $50 billion to buy more American-made merchandise in the next 10 years and helping its part-time workers move into full-time positions sooner.
....

At the center of Wal-Mart's plan is its pledge to hire veterans, many of who come from Afghanistan and Iraq are having a particularly hard time finding employment. The unemployment rate for veterans who served in Iraq or Afghanistan stood at 10.8 percent in December versus the overall unemployment rate of 7.8 percent.

The company said plans to hire every veteran who wants a job and has been honorably discharged in the first 12 months of active duty. The program, which will start on Memorial Day, will include jobs mostly in Wal-Mart's stores or in its Sam's Club locations. Some will be at its headquarters, based in Bentonville, Ark. or the company's distribution centers.




Comment by wickedpam on 01/15/2013 20:07:12
but are they going to pay them and all their other workers a living wage?

Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 20:11:49
Quote by wickedpam:
but are they going to pay them and all their other workers a living wage?

This was the first concern that came to my mind. Still this is a start:
The final piece of Wal-Mart's plan is to help part-time workers transition into full-time employment if they desire to. Simon said that about 75 percent of its store management start as hourly associates, and their average pay is $50,000 to $170,000 a year.

"There are some fundamental misunderstandings out there about retail jobs, and we need to do better at explaining the opportunities we offer," he said.


Comment by wickedpam on 01/15/2013 20:19:12
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
but are they going to pay them and all their other workers a living wage?

This was the first concern that came to my mind. Still this is a start:
The final piece of Wal-Mart's plan is to help part-time workers transition into full-time employment if they desire to. Simon said that about 75 percent of its store management start as hourly associates, and their average pay is $50,000 to $170,000 a year.

"There are some fundamental misunderstandings out there about retail jobs, and we need to do better at explaining the opportunities we offer," he said.



someone get kicked in the shin by their better angels? or are they just now realizing they have a suck ass worker image?

Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2013 20:24:27
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Have I told you lately how much I despise Ann Coulter?

Coulter: 'Not a gun problem," U.S. has "demographic problem" with non-whites.

If there is a Hell, surely Ann Coulter has a place set aside for her. This woman pushes hatred of others as much as any pusher ever tried to sell heroin.


I heard that Satan gave her soul back because he realized it was a bad deal for him.


Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 20:36:17
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
but are they going to pay them and all their other workers a living wage?

This was the first concern that came to my mind. Still this is a start:
The final piece of Wal-Mart's plan is to help part-time workers transition into full-time employment if they desire to. Simon said that about 75 percent of its store management start as hourly associates, and their average pay is $50,000 to $170,000 a year.

"There are some fundamental misunderstandings out there about retail jobs, and we need to do better at explaining the opportunities we offer," he said.



someone get kicked in the shin by their better angels? or are they just now realizing they have a suck ass worker image?
I think it's the latter. The fire in India and other scandals in MExico seem to be playing a part in it.

Also, I think they hate People from Walmart

There is this, from the article:
The move comes as Wal-Mart's attempts to rebound from blows to its reputation in recent months from an alleged bribery scandal in Mexico and a deadly fire in November at a Bangladesh factory that supplies clothes to the company. Wal-Mart, which often has been criticized for offering low-paying jobs and not buying more from U.S. manufacturers, said its plan will highlight the career opportunities in the retail industry.

"We've developed a national paralysis that's driven by all of us waiting for someone else to do something," Bill Simon, president and CEO of Wal-Mart's U.S. business, said at an annual retail industry convention in New York on Tuesday morning. "The beauty of the private sector is that we don't have to win an election, convince Congress or pass a bill to do what we think is right. We can simply move forward, doing what we know is right."


So I am truly thinking that it is a few things, pressure from Michelle Obama and the Vet Affairs department.

Unemployment is going down, slowly, and Vets will need jobs as they come home, this gives WalMArt a chance to expand and actually help by buying American.

We'll see how it pans out.






Comment by Mondobubba on 01/15/2013 20:38:04
I am home finally, had to get the meds, had to get the car washed as it had sat under a pollinating tree for four-and-half days (No global warming isn't happening, it is about 80 today) and something to eat that had flavor and texture.

My cirpo 'scrip came with SIX pages of dos, don'ts and alarming side effects. This is link to Cipro's side effect. They prescribe this stuff to people?? Seriously?

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/15/2013 20:39:49
Quote by TriSec:
For Mondo...


After Francona and the Red Sox “mutually” decided to part ways, Henry was unable to attend the press conference because he was injured when he fell on his yacht. Henry’s wife posted on Twitter the following morning, “Happy John is home! He slipped down stairs, injuring his neck. Kept at hospital at precaution, but was home for the derby.”

Shaughnessy wrote: “The owner, who’d been unable to attend the press conference announcing the firing of the manager who brought two World Series titles to Boston, made it home in time to watch Liverpool beat Everton 2-0 in the Merseyside derby.”


I told you the Sox ownership was more interested in Liverpool now, and this is why the Red Sox suck. I'd half-expect them to sell somebody vital to the Yankees to get some funds to sign a marquee footballer to their overseas interest.



The Merseyside Derby is a big deal.

Comment by livingonli on 01/15/2013 20:40:40
It was almost 60 Monday but tonight we might get snow although it will turn to rain by tomorrow.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/15/2013 20:41:57
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by TriSec:
Has everyone been to Disney?

The monorail has a fence along the edge near the "pit". There are gates that open when the monorail pulls in to allow people to pass on board.

But this requires that the train stop in the same place every time in order to line up with the gates. That doesn't always happen in the subway.


I thought the monorail was to coolest thing ever when I was a kid - like we were on our way to flying cars and mod fashions



I want my flying car, Dammit! And my food pills!

Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 20:44:10
Ahh, another Obamacare liar -- Idiot.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/15/2013 20:46:53
Quote by Raine:
Ahh, another Obamacare liar -- Idiot.


While I was getting food with taste and texture, Fox News was on. Did you know that Obama is the most isolated president since Nixon? He surrounds himself with cronies and insiders.

Comment by wickedpam on 01/15/2013 20:48:46
Quote by Raine:
Ahh, another Obamacare liar -- Idiot.



idiot caller on with Randi is giving me a headache - he's basically just a selfish ass - he got his and F everyone else

Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 20:50:03
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Ahh, another Obamacare liar -- Idiot.


While I was getting food with taste and texture, Fox News was on. Did you know that Obama is the most isolated president since Nixon? He surrounds himself with cronies and insiders.
Yes and the first black president is also being asked why he is so incredibly non diverse.


That talking point came about from a question at his presser yesterday. My head pounded on the desk. Involuntarily.


Comment by livingonli on 01/15/2013 20:51:04
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Ahh, another Obamacare liar -- Idiot.



idiot caller on with Randi is giving me a headache - he's basically just a selfish ass - he got his and F everyone else

I heard him. It does seem like these Ayn Rand following right-wingers are proud of being selfish pricks.

Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 20:51:39
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Ahh, another Obamacare liar -- Idiot.



idiot caller on with Randi is giving me a headache - he's basically just a selfish ass - he got his and F everyone else
What gave me a headache was how he tended to go into prepubescent screechy voice made.

That is a tell that someone is losing the debate.


Comment by Mondobubba on 01/15/2013 21:00:02
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Ahh, another Obamacare liar -- Idiot.


While I was getting food with taste and texture, Fox News was on. Did you know that Obama is the most isolated president since Nixon? He surrounds himself with cronies and insiders.
Yes and the first black president is also being asked why he is so incredibly non diverse.


That talking point came about from a question at his presser yesterday. My head pounded on the desk. Involuntarily.


Fox has spent the past day obsessing over the presser.

Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2013 21:01:56
Quote by Mondobubba:
I am home finally, had to get the meds, had to get the car washed as it had sat under a pollinating tree for four-and-half days (No global warming isn't happening, it is about 80 today) and something to eat that had flavor and texture.

My cirpo 'scrip came with SIX pages of dos, don'ts and alarming side effects. This is link to Cipro's side effect. They prescribe this stuff to people?? Seriously?


THe one that gets me is Prilosec...that's prescribed for some sort of stomach issue, if memory server. The commercial notes one of the side effects as "abdominal pain". Ummm,,,,isn't this drug supposed to fix that?


Comment by Mondobubba on 01/15/2013 21:19:33
Tri, yes my governor is a douche bag. A slimy horrible douche bag at that.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/15/2013 21:22:19
Quote by TriSec:
Quote by Mondobubba:
I am home finally, had to get the meds, had to get the car washed as it had sat under a pollinating tree for four-and-half days (No global warming isn't happening, it is about 80 today) and something to eat that had flavor and texture.

My cirpo 'scrip came with SIX pages of dos, don'ts and alarming side effects. This is link to Cipro's side effect. They prescribe this stuff to people?? Seriously?



Not to mention the pitch man is Larry the Cable Guy.
THe one that gets me is Prilosec...that's prescribed for some sort of stomach issue, if memory server. The commercial notes one of the side effects as "abdominal pain". Ummm,,,,isn't this drug supposed to fix that?



Comment by Mondobubba on 01/15/2013 21:27:49
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2013 21:36:23
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Ahh, another Obamacare liar -- Idiot.


While I was getting food with taste and texture, Fox News was on. Did you know that Obama is the most isolated president since Nixon? He surrounds himself with cronies and insiders.
Yes and the first black president is also being asked why he is so incredibly non diverse.


That talking point came about from a question at his presser yesterday. My head pounded on the desk. Involuntarily.


Fox has spent the past day obsessing over the presser.
Oh, I'm so shocked. <_<


Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/15/2013 23:49:58
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Ahh, another Obamacare liar -- Idiot.


While I was getting food with taste and texture, Fox News was on. Did you know that Obama is the most isolated president since Nixon? He surrounds himself with cronies and insiders.
Yes and the first black president is also being asked why he is so incredibly non diverse.


That talking point came about from a question at his presser yesterday. My head pounded on the desk. Involuntarily.


Fox has spent the past day obsessing over the presser.
Oh, I'm so shocked. <_<



They have to make someone look bad. Without that tactic, Fox has nothing to attract its rapidly aging audience.

Comment by BobR on 01/16/2013 02:16:13
For those who remember the old gang at AAP, one of our old friends - Bounced Granola - is losing his battle with cancer. He has probably less than a week left. If you're friends with him on facebook, you have a chance to say goodbye.



Comment by Raine on 01/16/2013 02:56:48
Quote by BobR:
For those who remember the old gang at AAP, one of our old friends - Bounced Granola - is losing his battle with cancer. He has probably less than a week left. If you're friends with him on facebook, you have a chance to say goodbye.

His FB name is John Robbe I cannot stop crying right now.


This is NOT supposed to happen.


Comment by Mondobubba on 01/16/2013 02:58:08
Quote by Raine:
Quote by BobR:
For those who remember the old gang at AAP, one of our old friends - Bounced Granola - is losing his battle with cancer. He has probably less than a week left. If you're friends with him on facebook, you have a chance to say goodbye.

His FB name is John Robbe I cannot stop crying right now.


This is NOT supposed to happen.



A non-awkward one too.

Comment by wickedpam on 01/16/2013 03:14:26
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by BobR:
For those who remember the old gang at AAP, one of our old friends - Bounced Granola - is losing his battle with cancer. He has probably less than a week left. If you're friends with him on facebook, you have a chance to say goodbye.

His FB name is John Robbe I cannot stop crying right now.


This is NOT supposed to happen.



A non-awkward one too.


BG Oh No!!!


Comment by Raine on 01/16/2013 04:02:43
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by BobR:
For those who remember the old gang at AAP, one of our old friends - Bounced Granola - is losing his battle with cancer. He has probably less than a week left. If you're friends with him on facebook, you have a chance to say goodbye.

His FB name is John Robbe I cannot stop crying right now.


This is NOT supposed to happen.



A non-awkward one too.


BG Oh No!!!
I just can't stop crying.

I really can't. Bounced is one of those people that you get to meet on a rare life chance, and he changed how ya think about things.

omg, I knew he was going thru this, I knew he was re-admitted, but to see the news that he was being brought home for the final time, this is just too much.





Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/16/2013 04:25:36
Raine, I posted on the new thread. I am so sorry for John, May his memory be for a blessing, as his life was a blessing in your life and that of Bob as well.