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A Massive Cover up? Perhaps.
Author: Raine    Date: 02/18/2013 16:32:03

Is it about Hagel? Is it about President Obama or is it about what McCain actually knows? Yesterday, in a surprise yet another appearance on Sunday talk show Meet the Press, Senator John McCain -- or as Dave Wiegal call him: The President of Pressistan -- claimed there is a massive cover-up surrounding the events of September 11, 2012:
"There are so many answers we don't know," McCain told host David Gregory. "We've had two movies about getting bin Laden and we don't even know who the people were who were evacuated from the consulate the day after the (Benghazi) attack. So there are many, many questions. So we've had a massive cover-up on the part of the administration."

Gregory then pressed McCain on what the Arizona senator meant by "a massive cover-up."

"I'm asking you, do you care whether four Americans died?" McCain said. "And shouldn't people be held accountable for the fact that four Americans died?"

"Well, what you said was the cover-up--a cover-up of what?" Gregory asked.

"Of the information concerning the deaths of four brave Americans," McCain replied. "The information has not been forthcoming. You obviously believe that it has. I know that it hasn't. And I'll be glad to send you a list of the questions that have not been answered, including 'What did the president do and who did he talk to the night of the attack on Benghazi?'"
After grilling former Secretary of State Clinton, Leon Panetta and Chuck Hagel (to name a few) over the events of Benghazi, John McCain appears to have entered conspiracy territory. Never mind that he "missed one of the briefings about the attack on America’s consulate on Benghazi because he was in the Senate Radio-TV Gallery demanding answers on Benghazi". Never mind that he's on the Senate Armed Services Committee and has access to classified papers regarding the affair, it seems that nothing is good enough with regard to what happened last September. The question is why? Why is he so rabidly attached to this issue?

The question I want to know is: what exactly does John McCain know and why isn't he telling us? On September 16, 2012, McCain and Susan Rice both appeared on separate talk shows regarding the attacks that occurred five days earlier. He said:
Most people don't bring rocket-propelled grenades and heavy weapons to a demonstration. That was an act of terror, and for anyone to disagree with that fundamental fact I think is really ignoring the facts. Now, how long it was planned and who was involved, but there is no doubt there was extremists and there's no doubt they were using heavy weapons and they used pretty good tactics--indirect fire, direct fire, and obviously they were successful.
She said:
After that spontaneous protest began outside of our consulate in Benghazi, we believe that it looks like extremist elements, individuals, joined in that-- in that effort with heavy weapons (...) It's clear that there were extremist elements that joined in and escalated the violence. Whether they were al Qaeda affiliates, whether they were Libyan-based extremists or al Qaeda itself I think is one of the things we'll have to determine.
Note, these two things sound quite similar. What is interesting is that just a few months earlier McCain falsely claimed that the U.S. armed Libyan rebels in an attempt to make the case for arming Syrian rebels.
JUDY WOODRUFF: But would you also need some sort of ground forces in the area —
SEN. JOHN MCCAIN: No.
JUDY WOODRUFF: — because Assad’s forces are operating very much in the middle of the civilian population.
SEN. JOHN MCCAIN: We would not.
Putting U.S. ground forces in would be not only not appropriate, but counterproductive. We just need to arm and equip these people, the same way that we did in Libya.
As think progress points out, Susan Rice directly contradicted him:
Wolf, even in Libya, we did not take the very exceptional decision to arm the opposition. And in Syria, we know much, much less about the nature of this opposition. It’s not coherent….
So to argue that we ought to be arming the opposition is a very consequential statement. And I don’t think that those that are advocating that have fully thought through the consequences.
It should be noted that just a week before McCain made these comments, he had visited Tripoli during the post revolutionary Egyptian Elections. During that visit, it is rumored that he held a secret meeting with rebels in Egypt. Ambassador Stevens was not present, according to said rumors:
http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x416/bigtreee/pl2_zpsd07882c6.png
This photo is inconclusive and cannot be properly sourced.

It's no Secret that John McCain has been a big advocate for arming Syrian opposition -- He and former senator Lieberman visited a Syrian refugee camp on the Syria-Turkish border in April 2012. This has been a common theme for Mr. McCain -- he was an advocate for arming the Libyan rebels before the fall of Qaddafi. In April of 2011 he visited Benghazi
"to get an on-the-ground assessment of the situation" and to meet with opposition leaders and members of the rebel military.

"They are my heroes," McCain said of the rebels as he walked out of a local hotel in Benghazi. (snip) Details of the trip were shrouded in secrecy due to heightened security in a country fiercely divided by the two-month-old anti-Qaddafi rebellion.
It should be noted that he went on this trip not as an official emissary.
“We were aware that Sen. McCain would be making the trip and State supported the codel,” White House spokesman Jay Carney told TPM in an e-mail Friday afternoon.

When asked whether McCain was there as an official emissary for the State Department or White House, Carney told reporters earlier only: “No. No that I’m aware of.”
This is a picture from that trip to Benghazi:
http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x416/bigtreee/pl1_zps122037ac.png
The man to the right of the Senator is the late Ambassador Stevens. There is video of this as well.
The building he was walking past?
http://humanrightsinvestigations.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/5479492383_538a9b4ed2_o.jpg?w=580
The video at the link has been removed (NOTE: it can be found here, but be forewarned that it is gruesome and NSFW), but it is worth noting "And here is footage of the rebel lynching which took place before Senator McCain’s visit, at the same location. The video shows a man being strung up and beheaded." That man? He was Pro-Qaddafi. I'm reluctant to even use it as a source, but the Daily Caller even noticed it.
In the video, the beheading victim can be seen suspended upside down in front of a burnt-out building. A crowd of hundreds is gathered around to watch; many of the spectators are filming the proceedings on mobile phones.

One minute and twenty seconds into the CNN report, McCain is seen walking past the building where the beheading took place, accompanied by Abdul Hafez Ghoga, vice-chairman of the Libyan rebels’ National Transitional Council.

Members of the group walking with McCain wave American flags, and shouts of “Allahu Akbar!” ring out as a smiling McCain walks by the site of the beheading.
And then there is this:
March, 2011, shortly after NATO began bombing Libya, journalists the world over were warning that the so-called "pro-democracy" protesters the West was purportedly protecting were in fact notorious extremist groups with a 30 year history of terrorism in Libya and abroad. Dr. Webster Tarpley provided documented evidence collected from the US Army's own West Point study, indicating the the epicenter of the so-called "revolution," was in fact the global epicenter of Al Qaeda recruitment. It would be in this epicenter that John McCain would give his speech, and where Ambassador Stevens would later be killed.
Secondary source.

Before the Benghazi attacks, Ambassador Stevens warned of Islamic extremism.
In a diplomatic cable in June, the U.S. ambassador to Libya cited the rise of “Islamic extremism” and displays of “the Al-Qaeda flag” over buildings outside the city of Benghazi, where he and three other Americans would be killed in a terrorist attack on Sept. 11.
The previously classified cable is among 166 documents made public Friday by Rep. Darrell E. Issa, chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, who says they expose an egregious security shortage at U.S. diplomatic missions in Libya in the months before the attack.


What if we were to find out that John McCain called for arming the very people that may have killed Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith, U.S. Foreign Service, Glen Doherty and Tyrone S. Woods? When will Senator John McCain appear before the Senate to tell us what he may know? I'm just asking questions here. At a certain point, someone needs to ask specifically why John McCain has been SO vocal about the events in Benghazi. Perhaps John McCain is hoping that these events were from Pro-Qaddafi factions? So far, it doesn't appear to be the case.

I propose this: It's time John McCain be brought forward to answer questions about his trips to Syria and Libya - under oath - in front of the Senate and his peers. Did he meet with rebels? Was he part of an arms deal? Did he play a part in the murder of 4 Americans in Benghazi on 9/11/2012? Could this be why he so vocal about that day? Is he trying to deflect from his responsibility for what happened?

Projection, is thy name McCain? What is McCain hiding? He's got lots of questions, but considering his history and multiple visits to the region, I suspect he may very well have a few answers. They are his heroes, after all. If there is a massive cover up, Senator McCain needs to tell us what exactly is being covered up.

and
Raine

27 comments (Latest Comment: 02/19/2013 00:22:12 by TriSec)
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Comment by wickedpam on 02/18/2013 13:52:25
Morning

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/18/2013 13:57:33
Morgen!

Comment by BobR on 02/18/2013 15:47:53
el Bloggerino is strangely quiet this morning...

Comment by wickedpam on 02/18/2013 15:54:09
sleepy and catching up from my long weekend

Comment by Will in Chicago on 02/18/2013 15:59:34
Quote by BobR:
el Bloggerino is strangely quiet this morning...



I slept in late. I was out all day Saturday at a role playing game convention and decided to sleep in today.

Most people did not see it on yesterday's blog, but I shared something from Daily Kos on the differences between how Texas and California are faring in this economy: Go home, Rick Perry .

Comment by TriSec on 02/18/2013 16:02:36
Greetings, comrades. Headed for my ancestral homeland today, and maybe a Kane's run!

http://www.nobomagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Kanes-Donuts-Coffee.jpg


Comment by TriSec on 02/18/2013 16:11:28
I have a brief blog poll, regarding my ludicrous Mother-in-law.

So pops passed back in November. We've been going through his closets, and I've easily inhereted $2500 worth of shoes, suits, and other such things.

But she's got three closets full of older items. As I said yesterday, suits rarely go out of style, but fabrics and colors often do. (A lot of 70s vintage suits - use your imagination.)

I suggested that she do a little research and find a vintage clothing shop that might be interested in some of this stuff.

I heard later last night that she was insulted. Would you be?

(and quite a few things have defunct "Filenes" and "Jordan Marsh" labels on them...I kept a few of those. "Made in the USA", too.)




Comment by Mondobubba on 02/18/2013 16:17:52
Grunt!

Comment by wickedpam on 02/18/2013 16:22:51
Quote by TriSec:
I have a brief blog poll, regarding my ludicrous Mother-in-law.

So pops passed back in November. We've been going through his closets, and I've easily inhereted $2500 worth of shoes, suits, and other such things.

But she's got three closets full of older items. As I said yesterday, suits rarely go out of style, but fabrics and colors often do. (A lot of 70s vintage suits - use your imagination.)

I suggested that she do a little research and find a vintage clothing shop that might be interested in some of this stuff.

I heard later last night that she was insulted. Would you be?

(and quite a few things have defunct "Filenes" and "Jordan Marsh" labels on them...I kept a few of those. "Made in the USA", too.)




vintage clothes - no I would not be insulted, heck I would love that have some of my stuff become vintage. I think its an indicator of good taste or a fun style.


Comment by wickedpam on 02/18/2013 16:24:35
I mean, heck, there a some vintage shirts can be worth a lot of money.

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/18/2013 16:42:08
Comment by livingonli on 02/18/2013 16:51:01
Good morning, folks. It feels like I am getting a things to come since Momma's not on Current today so I went back to listening on SiriusXM (which does not air the first hour on satellite) since Current decides not to run fresh programming apparently on any holidays and once Al-Jazeera takes over, it will all be gone since all the Current programming will probably be replaced.

Comment by Raine on 02/18/2013 17:12:22
Blog is posted, Pleased forgive me, as I did a tremendous amount of research for this sucker, today.

Please enjoy, and tell me if you agree or not.

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/18/2013 17:18:38
John McCain is such a dick. A giant, walking hardon of a dick at that. Not one of these: just a dick.

Comment by BobR on 02/18/2013 17:38:01
Quote by TriSec:
I have a brief blog poll, regarding my ludicrous Mother-in-law.

So pops passed back in November. We've been going through his closets, and I've easily inhereted $2500 worth of shoes, suits, and other such things.

But she's got three closets full of older items. As I said yesterday, suits rarely go out of style, but fabrics and colors often do. (A lot of 70s vintage suits - use your imagination.)

I suggested that she do a little research and find a vintage clothing shop that might be interested in some of this stuff.

I heard later last night that she was insulted. Would you be?

(and quite a few things have defunct "Filenes" and "Jordan Marsh" labels on them...I kept a few of those. "Made in the USA", too.)

I have a few 80s clothes that could be considered "vintage". I think she's just doesn't like being reminded that she's old and the clothing she used to like on him went out of style years ago.

Comment by Raine on 02/18/2013 18:29:18
Quote by Mondobubba:
John McCain is such a dick. A giant, walking hardon of a dick at that. Not one of these: just a dick.
Do you think he should address what HE knows about Benghazi?

Yes he's a dick, but he's also a person that obviously knows more than he is letting on, imo.


Comment by Mondobubba on 02/18/2013 18:49:46
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
John McCain is such a dick. A giant, walking hardon of a dick at that. Not one of these: just a dick.
Do you think he should address what HE knows about Benghazi?

Yes he's a dick, but he's also a person that obviously knows more than he is letting on, imo.



Yep! He isn't being totally honest.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 02/18/2013 19:07:00
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
John McCain is such a dick. A giant, walking hardon of a dick at that. Not one of these: just a dick.
Do you think he should address what HE knows about Benghazi?

Yes he's a dick, but he's also a person that obviously knows more than he is letting on, imo.

Of course he SHOULD. He SHOULD also tell us what he knows about 9/11 and WMD.

But then again, so should Pelosi.

Comment by Raine on 02/18/2013 19:27:02
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
John McCain is such a dick. A giant, walking hardon of a dick at that. Not one of these: just a dick.
Do you think he should address what HE knows about Benghazi?

Yes he's a dick, but he's also a person that obviously knows more than he is letting on, imo.

Of course he SHOULD. He SHOULD also tell us what he knows about 9/11 and WMD.

But then again, so should Pelosi.
I think we are going to learn a lot more about that tonite from Dr.Maddow.




Comment by Raine on 02/18/2013 19:54:53
The NRA says GUNS ARE COOL!

"They thought that everything was going to change because of Newtown," Keene says of gun control advocates. "I'm not sure that's happened."

He says guns and shooting sports are more popular, and the constituency for gun rights more cohesive, than two decades ago, when the NRA suffered its last really big defeat: passage of the assault weapons ban, which has since lapsed.

"The difference between today and 15 years ago is that today, guns are cool," says Keene.
What the fluck.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 02/18/2013 21:07:05
I think that McCain should tell what he knows. I think it is a legitimate issue.


Comment by Raine on 02/18/2013 21:40:03
Quote by Will in Chicago:
I think that McCain should tell what he knows. I think it is a legitimate issue.

This is my point -- if he thinks there is a cover up, he should tell us exactly -- and I mean precisely -- what the cover up is. He -- of all people -- seems to have intimate experience with the Libyan rebellion. He championed the very thing that Ambassador Stevens warned about.

Comment by Raine on 02/18/2013 21:40:54
Glad to see they took the time to be sure they were on the right side of history.


Comment by Mondobubba on 02/18/2013 22:10:28
Quote by Raine:
Glad to see they took the time to be sure they were on the right side of history.



They are so precious, aren't they.

Comment by livingonli on 02/18/2013 22:51:33
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Glad to see they took the time to be sure they were on the right side of history.



They are so precious, aren't they.

I guess we can blame it on all that their inbreeding.

Comment by TriSec on 02/19/2013 00:22:12
Evening, folks. Back home after a day stomping around my old haunts back in my ancestral homeland.

Friends were visited, and donuts were purchased.

I also continued my pilfering of grandpa's record collection. My aunt may sell the house, and although I may never listen to some of these LPs, I know what will happen to them if I didn't take them. So I'd rather have them gather dust on MY shelves.

I was leafing through some with more detail this evening. I took a couple of "Stereophonic" demonstrator albums, new technology you see. One of the albums is 60 years old....and not a scratch on it.