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Breaking Down the Gun Arguments
Author: BobR    Date: 04/15/2013 14:22:46

To hear the gun nuts' hysterics, you'd think President Obama had declared himself Supreme Leader and was sending out the troops goosestepping into every community to arrest anyone with a gun. In reality, the Senate has finally agreed to discuss the possibility of expanding background checks. The notion of background checks is apparently forbidden in the Constitution if you believe these people. Their arguments against any sort of common-sense regulation are legion, and spoken with such earnest matter-of-factualness that you have to believe that they believe them. Perhaps it's time (again) to look a little closer at some of those arguments...

Background checks won't work because most criminals don't get their guns from retail stores: This canard is sometimes backed up with a government study (interesting that they distrust the government until they find something they think reinforces their pre-conceived beliefs). They cite a study that provides these general statistics:
  • 39.6% of criminals obtained a gun from a friend or family member
  • 39.2% of criminals obtained a gun on the street or from an illegal source
  • 0.7% of criminals purchased a gun at a gun show
  • 1% of criminals purchased a gun at a flea market
  • 3.8% of criminals purchased a gun from a pawn shop
  • 8.3% of criminals actually bought their guns from retail outlets

(apologies for the Daily Caller link)

See? - they say - Only 8.3% buy their guns at retail outlets! Perhaps they don't realize this takes the wind out of their argument: The gun shops are the only ones currently doing the background check. That's the whole idea behind "universal" background checks - it would require checks for ALL transactions. If a criminal buys a gun from a street dealer selling out of the trunk of his car, that is currently a legal sale. That street dealer can buy as many guns as he wants at a gun show, and turn around and sell them on the street with no legal repercussions. This was what the Fast & Furious investigation was monitoring - legal "straw purchases" for drug gangs (despite what the right-wing may otherwise say about that operation). The idea is that ANYTIME that a gun changes ownership, the new owner must pass a background check, or both the buyer AND the seller are committing a crime. Sadly, I doubt that any bill that makes it out of the Senate will be that comprehensive and loophole-free.

Clip size doesn't matter because people can swap them quickly: This is the typical "I can change a clip in 0.XX seconds" argument from gun enthusiasts that completely ignores the fact that most of these mass-murders are committed by people that don't train themselves to change clips that quickly. It's been fairly well-documented that the shooter of Gabby Giffords was stopped from shooting any further when he stopped to change clips. There is really no compelling argument for needing a large clip other than "I want it, and I think the 2nd Amendment says I can have it". That's really not good enough - not in today's world.

Background checks wouldn't have prevented Sandy Hook: Yes, that is true. However, this fails on two accounts. First - the Sandy Hook shooting may have been the straw that broke the camel's back, but it is not the only shooting that is prompting the review of current gun laws. There is a long bloody history backing up the need for changes to gun regulations (although on the other hand - we now have to take our shoes off before boarding a plane just because of a single incident. Funny how THAT works). Secondly - removing loopholes from background checks is just a single prong in a multi-pronged approach to reducing gun violence and gun deaths in general. There is not any one single regulation that is going to prevent all gun deaths, or prevent all tragedies. That sort of leads to the next bit of "common wisdom"...

Regulations don't work because criminals won't obey regulations: So hey - why have any regulations at all? Why have any laws at all? They just "inconvenience" the rest of us law-abiding citizens, right? Everyone breaks the speed limit on the highway, so why have any speed limits at all? Of course - if the speed limit is 55 and everyone is going 65, no speed limit at all means everyone would be going anywhere from 55 to 125. I think that's a pretty apt metaphor for where we are now with the lax regulations currently in place.

A good guy with a gun is the best defense for a bad guy with a gun: This absurd canard put forth by the NRA leadership is one of the worst not-based-in-reality approaches to gun violence I've heard. who is a good guy anyway? We trust the police and military to be good guys, yet the shootings at Ft. Hood and the cop who went on a vendetta in California show that a person with a gun can be considered a "good guy" until they do something bad. There have been several stories in the news recently about toddlers shooting people. Do we need to arm toddler good guys? It's absurd.

Arm the teachers: This was another brilliant idea from the NRA (and still argued by gun nuts) - arming teachers or school administrators. When the shooting occurred at Ft. Hood, the soldiers there called 911. Why? Because they aren't allowed to have guns on base. If we can't trust trained soldiers on a military base to carry a gun, how is it that we want to trust untrained teachers to carry a gun in a school full of children??

A government registry of guns will result in the government confiscating all guns: This has been the paranoid conspiracy theory since the day President Obama was elected. They pointed to the fact that he did nothing his first term as evidence he was lulling us all into complacency so could get re-elected and really pull out his agenda (although why he wouldn't just do it his first when he had a friendly Congress defies common sense). After Sandy Hook, he has decided to pursue getting gun laws fixed to prevent needless gun deaths. As mentioned in the first paragraph, the Senate is having a hard time getting even universal background checks passed. How likely is it that anything even remotely onerous has a chance of passing into law? And while we're at it - let's look at the logistics of this. With 30-40% of households in the U.S. owning guns and anywhere from 200 to 300 million guns owned, what is the likelihood that the government has a remote chance in hell of rounding all of those up? It's not physically possible, there's not enough manpower to do it, there's not enough money in any department's budget to accomplish it. This one is just plain stupid.

The Supreme Court has determined that the 2nd Amendment applies to more than just militias: Again - the gun nuts (who tend to be right-wing) have decided that the Supreme Court is suddenly The Law Of The Land when they agree with a ruling. The Supreme Court has also previously decided that blacks were not citizens and that slavery could not be outlawed. They got that one wrong too. The right-wing coined the phrase "activist Supreme Court" and I think it applies to their ruling on gun ownership and the 2nd Amendment. If any law were able to make it out of Congress and make it to the President's desk, it would likely get tested via the courts, and then we'll see what they think of any of these proposed gun regulations.

The end goal of any gun regulation (or package of regulations) is to reduce gun violence. The gun nuts say "guns don't kill people - people kill people". The truth is that people with guns kill people, easily, efficiently, and from a distance (if desired). I think the simple answer is to make the gun owner legally liable for any death or injury that results from the use of any gun of which they are the legal owner. Comprehensive background checks + a registry of gun ownership for every gun that leaves a gun factory will ensure that anyone who buys a gun knows they a liable. If they loaned it to a friend or family member - unless they registered the transaction, they would still be liable. If they resold it without doing a background check on the buyer and registering the new owner - they would be liable. If it was stolen and they didn't report it - they would be liable.

This would eliminate street dealers, would prevent criminals from getting guns from pawn shops, and would encourage owners to be more responsible to prevent accidental deaths. It also would not prevent "law-abiding" gun owners from buying and owning guns. I think that's something we could all agree on.
 

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Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 13:08:37
good morning!

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 13:18:29
Morning. How was everybody's weekend?

Comment by wickedpam on 04/15/2013 13:20:21
Morning

Comment by wickedpam on 04/15/2013 13:21:36
Quote by Mondobubba:
Morning. How was everybody's weekend?


Got my potatoes, peas, oregano and 2 types of basil in the ground finally.


Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 13:26:52
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Morning. How was everybody's weekend?


Got my potatoes, peas, oregano and 2 types of basil in the ground finally.



Yay!

BTW has the cicada chorus started yet?

Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 13:28:57
As celebrated in Massachusetts and Maine, today is the *REAL* Patriot's Day.

(Well, actually April 18, but it's a Monday "hack" holiday.) Oh, and we've got marathons and baseball around here, too.



Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 13:30:15
Quote by wickedpam:


Got my potatoes, peas, oregano and 2 types of basil in the ground finally.


Well, I moved my grill, transplanted two bulbs, and looked at my garden and wondered why the landscapers mulched it - all that has to go.

Like when it's warm enough to stand outside for more than 10 minutes.

*shakes fist southwesterly*


Comment by wickedpam on 04/15/2013 13:34:32
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Morning. How was everybody's weekend?


Got my potatoes, peas, oregano and 2 types of basil in the ground finally.



Yay!

BTW has the cicada chorus started yet?


you know I haven't noticed - they said this brood isn't going to be as bad as the one a few years ago.


Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 13:37:19
Bob Perry has died.

His death was confirmed by lobbyist and former state Rep. Neal T. "Buddy" Jones, a family friend and business associate, who said in a statement, "Bob Perry passed away peacefully in his sleep last night. The family asks for privacy right now as they grieve their loss. They look forward to talking with their friends in the coming days."
I'm sure you'll remember Bob Perry fondly. He brought us Swift Boat Veterans for truth. And this:

In mid-2006, Perry donated $5 million to found a new 527 group, the Economic Freedom Fund. The $5 million makes the group one of the top ten in the 2006 election cycle. He also appears to be the sole donor to Americans for Honesty on Issues. These groups have primarily paid for negative advertisements targeting Democratic Party candidates in the 2006 United States general election.

In 2010, Perry donated $7 million to the 527 group American Crossroads, making it the largest single donation that the organization has received to date. American Crossroads primarily works to elect Republican and conservative legislators. The super PAC Restore Our Future (supporting Mitt Romney) received $3 million from Perry in February 2011. Perry also donated to the Super PAC Congressional Leadership Fund, making his total contributions to Super PACs nearly $8 million.
In 2011, Perry donated $2,531,799 to Texas Governor and United States Presidential Candidate Rick Perry (R, TX) toward his Presidential campaign.

Between 2011 and 2012 Perry donated another $10 million to the Mitt Romney affillated Restore our Future and another $6.5 million to American Crossroads. Perry is the biggest contributor to SuperPACs in the 2012 election cycle with a total of $18.5 million as of September 2012.


And B*sh, and Delay and Scott Walker....

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 13:40:48
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Morning. How was everybody's weekend?


Got my potatoes, peas, oregano and 2 types of basil in the ground finally.



Yay!

BTW has the cicada chorus started yet?


you know I haven't noticed - they said this brood isn't going to be as bad as the one a few years ago.



If I remember from the brood maps, you are at the bottom of the area for brood II. You are smack dab in the middle of brood X.

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 13:41:22
Quote by Raine:
Bob Perry has died.

His death was confirmed by lobbyist and former state Rep. Neal T. "Buddy" Jones, a family friend and business associate, who said in a statement, "Bob Perry passed away peacefully in his sleep last night. The family asks for privacy right now as they grieve their loss. They look forward to talking with their friends in the coming days."
I'm sure you'll remember Bob Perry fondly. He brought us Swift Boat Veterans for truth. And this:

In mid-2006, Perry donated $5 million to found a new 527 group, the Economic Freedom Fund. The $5 million makes the group one of the top ten in the 2006 election cycle. He also appears to be the sole donor to Americans for Honesty on Issues. These groups have primarily paid for negative advertisements targeting Democratic Party candidates in the 2006 United States general election.

In 2010, Perry donated $7 million to the 527 group American Crossroads, making it the largest single donation that the organization has received to date. American Crossroads primarily works to elect Republican and conservative legislators. The super PAC Restore Our Future (supporting Mitt Romney) received $3 million from Perry in February 2011. Perry also donated to the Super PAC Congressional Leadership Fund, making his total contributions to Super PACs nearly $8 million.
In 2011, Perry donated $2,531,799 to Texas Governor and United States Presidential Candidate Rick Perry (R, TX) toward his Presidential campaign.

Between 2011 and 2012 Perry donated another $10 million to the Mitt Romney affillated Restore our Future and another $6.5 million to American Crossroads. Perry is the biggest contributor to SuperPACs in the 2012 election cycle with a total of $18.5 million as of September 2012.


And B*sh, and Delay and Scott Walker....



He is now in Hell.

Comment by wickedpam on 04/15/2013 13:43:03
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Morning. How was everybody's weekend?


Got my potatoes, peas, oregano and 2 types of basil in the ground finally.



Yay!

BTW has the cicada chorus started yet?


you know I haven't noticed - they said this brood isn't going to be as bad as the one a few years ago.



If I remember from the brood maps, you are at the bottom of the area for brood II. You are smack dab in the middle of brood X.



that sounds right - they do seem to compare everything to that rascally set of deliquents of brood x

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 13:47:30
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Morning. How was everybody's weekend?


Got my potatoes, peas, oregano and 2 types of basil in the ground finally.



Yay!

BTW has the cicada chorus started yet?


you know I haven't noticed - they said this brood isn't going to be as bad as the one a few years ago.



If I remember from the brood maps, you are at the bottom of the area for brood II. You are smack dab in the middle of brood X.



that sounds right - they do seem to compare everything to that rascally set of deliquents of brood x





Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 13:51:48
Women's Elite runners and the wheelchairs are already on the course. Men's Elite at 10, I think....then the vast sea of unwashed heathens to follow.

First pitch at 11:05. And since the mean Republicans took our F-15s away, no flyby this year.

(That's legendary; a few years ago they did Hopkinton, then flew the marathon route and buzzed Fenway. Unannouced. Completely disrupted the game for a minute.)


Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 14:08:09
Quote by TriSec:
Women's Elite runners and the wheelchairs are already on the course. Men's Elite at 10, I think....then the vast sea of unwashed heathens to follow.

First pitch at 11:05. And since the mean Republicans took our F-15s away, no flyby this year.

(That's legendary; a few years ago they did Hopkinton, then flew the marathon route and buzzed Fenway. Unannouced. Completely disrupted the game for a minute.)



Thank you for the parochial regionalism update, Sparky :ducks brick:

I forgot that the it is Patriots Day.

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 14:10:52
For the Billionth time, getting your kids vaccinated isn't going to give them autism. Andrew Wakefield is full of shit. Jenny McCarthy is full of shit. Learn some basic fucking science, fucktards.

Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 14:12:15
I'm sorry, when is the Jacksonville Marathon?

And how many Minutemen took on the British Army from your area?

Punk.



Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 14:15:21
Here is something to ponder....


10:01 am | Eric Bauer: Hiroyuki Yamamoto of Japan went through the half marathon in Wellesley Center in 40:14, well off the men's wheelchair record pace of Josh Cassidy, who is among a group of five chasing him.


I can't drive half the marathon route in 40:14. That's insane.



Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 14:17:24
Ah yes, and here's why we have the holiday.

Battle of Lexington re-enactment

Comment by BobR on 04/15/2013 14:23:25
blog is posted.

Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 14:32:42
I'm gonna book mark this blog...

Comment by wickedpam on 04/15/2013 14:42:46
Add mandatory safety training and yearly or biyearly testing but I could be flexible on that if we get the other things your mentioned

Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 14:42:55
Ooh, I should cross-post this over to Kos.

With your permission, of course.

Comment by BobR on 04/15/2013 14:43:08
Quote by Mondobubba:
Thank you for the parochial regionalism update, Sparky :ducks brick:

I forgot that the it is Patriots Day.


Quote by TriSec:
I'm sorry, when is the Jacksonville Marathon?

And how many Minutemen took on the British Army from your area?

Punk.


settle down, kids!

Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 14:43:28
http://www.creators.com/editorial_cartoons/1/25975_thumb.gif


Comment by BobR on 04/15/2013 14:44:24
Quote by TriSec:
Ooh, I should cross-post this over to Kos.

With your permission, of course.

No one ever has to ask my permission to post any of my blogs anywhere, unless I specifically state otherwise.

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 14:46:35
Quote by TriSec:
I'm sorry, when is the Jacksonville Marathon?

And how many Minutemen took on the British Army from your area?

Punk.




Don't have one. Minutemen, shminutemen. Oldest City in the US is the 30 miles to my south.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 04/15/2013 15:03:40
Quote by TriSec:
As celebrated in Massachusetts and Maine, today is the *REAL* Patriot's Day.

(Well, actually April 18, but it's a Monday "hack" holiday.) Oh, and we've got marathons and baseball around here, too.



TriSec, are schools open today?

BobR, thanks for a great blog. I think that we need to look rationally at the gun issue. In Chicago, surrounding suburbs and the states are the source of most of the guns on the city streets. There were four people killed, 21 wounded by guns over the weekend in Chicago. (It was a warm day yesterday.)

As for myself, the job search continues. No interviews scheduled, but I am seeing more openings. I fear that Rahm Emmanuel's school board deciding to close 53 schools will put a glut of teachers on the local market.

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 15:04:20
Furthermore, when I was a wee Mondo, a mere 45 minute trip up the BW Parkway there's a little place called Fort McHenry. You might have heard of it.


:regional pride: :rocky steps: :fist pumping:

Comment by trojanrabbit on 04/15/2013 15:14:21
Quote by TriSec:
As celebrated in Massachusetts and Maine, today is the *REAL* Patriot's Day.

(Well, actually April 18, but it's a Monday "hack" holiday.) Oh, and we've got marathons and baseball around here, too.



Yes, the Kenyan Invitational.

Hey Tri, any idea what's going in where the old Borders is next to LLB?

Comment by Will in Chicago on 04/15/2013 15:15:28
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 15:18:05
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 15:19:54
Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 15:22:28
Quote by trojanrabbit:


Yes, the Kenyan Invitational.

Hey Tri, any idea what's going in where the old Borders is next to LLB?


The rumour is an elitist vegetarian restaraunt, part of the Capitol Grille chain. Which will do nothing for our foot traffic, IMHO.

But there's two floors there - the rest of it is anyone's guess.


Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 15:23:06
Will, It's school vacation week around these parts.



Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 15:25:37


Just a pop star being a pop star. Need I remind you of the Prince / USA for Africa kerfuffle back in the day?



Comment by Will in Chicago on 04/15/2013 15:29:20
Quote by TriSec:
Will, It's school vacation week around these parts.




While I have not had any interviews yet, I am applying to a bunch of openings. The advice I am getting from many friends is to look East. (I am hoping to have some money for a Virginia license soon -- I had to take care of some bills from my tax refund.)

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 15:44:42
Hey coffee fiends, according to the DSM-V, you are mentally ill!

Another example is the “disorder” “caffeine intoxication,” characterized by at least five symptoms after consuming the equivalent of two to three cups of coffee: restlessness, gastrointestinal problems, difficulty sleeping, nervousness, and rapid heartbeat.


Slate has an article

Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 15:46:33
Compared to some other places, are lot of districts here are relatively well off.

Waltham has just completed a 10-year capital improvement program, we've got all new elementary schools, a brand-new middle school, and one newly renovated. The only one that wasn't touched was the High School.

Mass has also asked for and received an NCLB exemption, we're not held to federal standards because the MCAS standards are higher, so you've got a much freer hand in the curriculum, too.

Oh, and Mass is a hotbed of teacher and education unions. Since all of Massachusetts is essentially one big college town, you'll find a level of some respect that may not be prevalent in other places.



Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 15:49:34
Quote by Mondobubba:
Hey coffee fiends, according to the DSM-V, you are mentally ill!



Slate has an article



Thank the AMA for that; they control the codesets and the fee schedules. Looks like they've figured out a new way to make more money.



Comment by Will in Chicago on 04/15/2013 15:49:52
Okay, I am counting geek coup, as the CEO of Paizo Publishing asked for a copy of an old Dungeons and Dragon mod that I converted sometime back for a local gaming event. Now, if they only had a writing/editing job open.

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 15:50:38
Quote by TriSec:
Compared to some other places, are lot of districts here are relatively well off.

Waltham has just completed a 10-year capital improvement program, we've got all new elementary schools, a brand-new middle school, and one newly renovated. The only one that wasn't touched was the High School.

Mass has also asked for and received an NCLB exemption, we're not held to federal standards because the MCAS standards are higher, so you've got a much freer hand in the curriculum, too.

Oh, and Mass is a hotbed of teacher and education unions. Since all of Massachusetts is essentially one big college town, you'll find a level of some respect that may not be prevalent in other places.



That might be one of the most apt descriptions of the Bay State I've ever heard.


Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 15:51:58
Quote by TriSec:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Hey coffee fiends, according to the DSM-V, you are mentally ill!



Slate has an article



Thank the AMA for that; they control the codesets and the fee schedules. Looks like they've figured out a new way to make more money.




That is interesting. There is connection between the codes and what gets into the DSM?

Comment by Will in Chicago on 04/15/2013 16:06:41
Quote by TriSec:
Compared to some other places, are lot of districts here are relatively well off.

Waltham has just completed a 10-year capital improvement program, we've got all new elementary schools, a brand-new middle school, and one newly renovated. The only one that wasn't touched was the High School.

Mass has also asked for and received an NCLB exemption, we're not held to federal standards because the MCAS standards are higher, so you've got a much freer hand in the curriculum, too.

Oh, and Mass is a hotbed of teacher and education unions. Since all of Massachusetts is essentially one big college town, you'll find a level of some respect that may not be prevalent in other places.




Let's say that teachers do not get a lot of respect in Chicagoland. If you are a sub, expect shoddy treatment. Too often, teachers here teach to tests. No one is happy witht he tests.

With any luck, I will hear from some of the people in your area soon, TriSec. I just applied on Friday to a position at Waltham High School and I applied yesterday to two positions in Newton. (I should check out Zaftigs in Brookline and Natick if I get to your state. It seems a lot like The Bagel in Chicago.)

Comment by BobR on 04/15/2013 16:06:50
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Okay, I am counting geek coup, as the CEO of Paizo Publishing asked for a copy of an old Dungeons and Dragon mod that I converted sometime back for a local gaming event. Now, if they only had a writing/editing job open.

hey - that seems like a cool thing, right?... :RPG ignorant:

Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 16:10:17
apropos of this paragraph in todays blog:

The Supreme Court has determined that the 2nd amendment applies to more than just militias: Again - the gun nuts (who tend to be right-wing) have decided that the Supreme Court is suddenly The Law Of The Land when they agree with a ruling. The Supreme Court also decided that blacks were not citizens and that slavery could not be outlawed. They got that one wrong too. The right-wing coined the phrase "activist Supreme Court" and I think it applies to their ruling on gun ownership and the 2nd Amendment. If any law were able to make it out of Congress and make it to the President's desk, it would likely get tested via the courts, and then we'll see what they think of any of these proposed gun regulations.



SCOTUS refuses to hear NYS Gun law challenge.

Comment by wickedpam on 04/15/2013 16:10:42
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Okay, I am counting geek coup, as the CEO of Paizo Publishing asked for a copy of an old Dungeons and Dragon mod that I converted sometime back for a local gaming event. Now, if they only had a writing/editing job open.



what about writing your own and seeing if you can get it published or very self publish. Don't know if you follow Table Top over on Geek & Sundry - Wil Wheton has contacts with what seems like bunches of gaming companies

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 16:10:52
Quote by TriSec:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Hey coffee fiends, according to the DSM-V, you are mentally ill!



Slate has an article



Thank the AMA for that; they control the codesets and the fee schedules. Looks like they've figured out a new way to make more money.



That is address in the article as well:

What is going in our culture that allows for this expanding definition of mental illness? There are many explanations. The first is related to payment for treatment. Psychological treatments and medications can be useful for a variety of problems, but for those treatments to be even partially paid for by health insurance companies, the problems must have a diagnosis. It’s not enough that there’s a problem that’s being addressed. It has to be a problem. (Of course, if you treat a problem before it becomes a mental illness, the health insurance company will have ended up saving a significant amount of money, but they don’t pay for early mental health intervention—there has to be a problem. But that’s a story beyond the scope of this article.)


Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 16:12:50
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Okay, I am counting geek coup, as the CEO of Paizo Publishing asked for a copy of an old Dungeons and Dragon mod that I converted sometime back for a local gaming event. Now, if they only had a writing/editing job open.

hey - that seems like a cool thing, right?... :RPG ignorant:



Bobber, Will can take as many unchallenged inhaller huffs with his Inhaler Power +3 as he needs during any upcoming melee for the next in-game day.