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Breaking Down the Gun Arguments
Author: BobR
Date: 04/15/2013 14:22:46
To hear the gun nuts' hysterics, you'd think President Obama had declared himself Supreme Leader and was sending out the troops goosestepping into every community to arrest anyone with a gun. In reality, the Senate has finally agreed to discuss the possibility of expanding background checks. The notion of background checks is apparently forbidden in the Constitution if you believe these people. Their arguments against any sort of common-sense regulation are legion, and spoken with such earnest matter-of-factualness that you have to believe that they believe them. Perhaps it's time (again) to look a little closer at some of those arguments...
Background checks won't work because most criminals don't get their guns from retail stores: This canard is sometimes backed up with a government study (interesting that they distrust the government until they find something they think reinforces their pre-conceived beliefs). They cite a study that provides these general statistics:
(apologies for the Daily Caller link)
See? - they say - Only 8.3% buy their guns at retail outlets! Perhaps they don't realize this takes the wind out of their argument: The gun shops are the only ones currently doing the background check. That's the whole idea behind "universal" background checks - it would require checks for ALL transactions. If a criminal buys a gun from a street dealer selling out of the trunk of his car, that is currently a legal sale. That street dealer can buy as many guns as he wants at a gun show, and turn around and sell them on the street with no legal repercussions. This was what the Fast & Furious investigation was monitoring - legal "straw purchases" for drug gangs (despite what the right-wing may otherwise say about that operation). The idea is that ANYTIME that a gun changes ownership, the new owner must pass a background check, or both the buyer AND the seller are committing a crime. Sadly, I doubt that any bill that makes it out of the Senate will be that comprehensive and loophole-free.
Clip size doesn't matter because people can swap them quickly: This is the typical "I can change a clip in 0.XX seconds" argument from gun enthusiasts that completely ignores the fact that most of these mass-murders are committed by people that don't train themselves to change clips that quickly. It's been fairly well-documented that the shooter of Gabby Giffords was stopped from shooting any further when he stopped to change clips. There is really no compelling argument for needing a large clip other than "I want it, and I think the 2nd Amendment says I can have it". That's really not good enough - not in today's world.
Background checks wouldn't have prevented Sandy Hook: Yes, that is true. However, this fails on two accounts. First - the Sandy Hook shooting may have been the straw that broke the camel's back, but it is not the only shooting that is prompting the review of current gun laws. There is a long bloody history backing up the need for changes to gun regulations (although on the other hand - we now have to take our shoes off before boarding a plane just because of a single incident. Funny how THAT works). Secondly - removing loopholes from background checks is just a single prong in a multi-pronged approach to reducing gun violence and gun deaths in general. There is not any one single regulation that is going to prevent all gun deaths, or prevent all tragedies. That sort of leads to the next bit of "common wisdom"...
Regulations don't work because criminals won't obey regulations: So hey - why have any regulations at all? Why have any laws at all? They just "inconvenience" the rest of us law-abiding citizens, right? Everyone breaks the speed limit on the highway, so why have any speed limits at all? Of course - if the speed limit is 55 and everyone is going 65, no speed limit at all means everyone would be going anywhere from 55 to 125. I think that's a pretty apt metaphor for where we are now with the lax regulations currently in place.
A good guy with a gun is the best defense for a bad guy with a gun: This absurd canard put forth by the NRA leadership is one of the worst not-based-in-reality approaches to gun violence I've heard. who is a good guy anyway? We trust the police and military to be good guys, yet the shootings at Ft. Hood and the cop who went on a vendetta in California show that a person with a gun can be considered a "good guy" until they do something bad. There have been several stories in the news recently about toddlers shooting people. Do we need to arm toddler good guys? It's absurd.
Arm the teachers: This was another brilliant idea from the NRA (and still argued by gun nuts) - arming teachers or school administrators. When the shooting occurred at Ft. Hood, the soldiers there called 911. Why? Because they aren't allowed to have guns on base. If we can't trust trained soldiers on a military base to carry a gun, how is it that we want to trust untrained teachers to carry a gun in a school full of children??
A government registry of guns will result in the government confiscating all guns: This has been the paranoid conspiracy theory since the day President Obama was elected. They pointed to the fact that he did nothing his first term as evidence he was lulling us all into complacency so could get re-elected and really pull out his agenda (although why he wouldn't just do it his first when he had a friendly Congress defies common sense). After Sandy Hook, he has decided to pursue getting gun laws fixed to prevent needless gun deaths. As mentioned in the first paragraph, the Senate is having a hard time getting even universal background checks passed. How likely is it that anything even remotely onerous has a chance of passing into law? And while we're at it - let's look at the logistics of this. With 30-40% of households in the U.S. owning guns and anywhere from 200 to 300 million guns owned, what is the likelihood that the government has a remote chance in hell of rounding all of those up? It's not physically possible, there's not enough manpower to do it, there's not enough money in any department's budget to accomplish it. This one is just plain stupid.
The Supreme Court has determined that the 2nd Amendment applies to more than just militias: Again - the gun nuts (who tend to be right-wing) have decided that the Supreme Court is suddenly The Law Of The Land when they agree with a ruling. The Supreme Court has also previously decided that blacks were not citizens and that slavery could not be outlawed. They got that one wrong too. The right-wing coined the phrase "activist Supreme Court" and I think it applies to their ruling on gun ownership and the 2nd Amendment. If any law were able to make it out of Congress and make it to the President's desk, it would likely get tested via the courts, and then we'll see what they think of any of these proposed gun regulations.
The end goal of any gun regulation (or package of regulations) is to reduce gun violence. The gun nuts say "guns don't kill people - people kill people". The truth is that people with guns kill people, easily, efficiently, and from a distance (if desired). I think the simple answer is to make the gun owner legally liable for any death or injury that results from the use of any gun of which they are the legal owner. Comprehensive background checks + a registry of gun ownership for every gun that leaves a gun factory will ensure that anyone who buys a gun knows they a liable. If they loaned it to a friend or family member - unless they registered the transaction, they would still be liable. If they resold it without doing a background check on the buyer and registering the new owner - they would be liable. If it was stolen and they didn't report it - they would be liable.
This would eliminate street dealers, would prevent criminals from getting guns from pawn shops, and would encourage owners to be more responsible to prevent accidental deaths. It also would not prevent "law-abiding" gun owners from buying and owning guns. I think that's something we could all agree on.
Background checks won't work because most criminals don't get their guns from retail stores: This canard is sometimes backed up with a government study (interesting that they distrust the government until they find something they think reinforces their pre-conceived beliefs). They cite a study that provides these general statistics:
- 39.6% of criminals obtained a gun from a friend or family member
- 39.2% of criminals obtained a gun on the street or from an illegal source
- 0.7% of criminals purchased a gun at a gun show
- 1% of criminals purchased a gun at a flea market
- 3.8% of criminals purchased a gun from a pawn shop
- 8.3% of criminals actually bought their guns from retail outlets
(apologies for the Daily Caller link)
See? - they say - Only 8.3% buy their guns at retail outlets! Perhaps they don't realize this takes the wind out of their argument: The gun shops are the only ones currently doing the background check. That's the whole idea behind "universal" background checks - it would require checks for ALL transactions. If a criminal buys a gun from a street dealer selling out of the trunk of his car, that is currently a legal sale. That street dealer can buy as many guns as he wants at a gun show, and turn around and sell them on the street with no legal repercussions. This was what the Fast & Furious investigation was monitoring - legal "straw purchases" for drug gangs (despite what the right-wing may otherwise say about that operation). The idea is that ANYTIME that a gun changes ownership, the new owner must pass a background check, or both the buyer AND the seller are committing a crime. Sadly, I doubt that any bill that makes it out of the Senate will be that comprehensive and loophole-free.
Clip size doesn't matter because people can swap them quickly: This is the typical "I can change a clip in 0.XX seconds" argument from gun enthusiasts that completely ignores the fact that most of these mass-murders are committed by people that don't train themselves to change clips that quickly. It's been fairly well-documented that the shooter of Gabby Giffords was stopped from shooting any further when he stopped to change clips. There is really no compelling argument for needing a large clip other than "I want it, and I think the 2nd Amendment says I can have it". That's really not good enough - not in today's world.
Background checks wouldn't have prevented Sandy Hook: Yes, that is true. However, this fails on two accounts. First - the Sandy Hook shooting may have been the straw that broke the camel's back, but it is not the only shooting that is prompting the review of current gun laws. There is a long bloody history backing up the need for changes to gun regulations (although on the other hand - we now have to take our shoes off before boarding a plane just because of a single incident. Funny how THAT works). Secondly - removing loopholes from background checks is just a single prong in a multi-pronged approach to reducing gun violence and gun deaths in general. There is not any one single regulation that is going to prevent all gun deaths, or prevent all tragedies. That sort of leads to the next bit of "common wisdom"...
Regulations don't work because criminals won't obey regulations: So hey - why have any regulations at all? Why have any laws at all? They just "inconvenience" the rest of us law-abiding citizens, right? Everyone breaks the speed limit on the highway, so why have any speed limits at all? Of course - if the speed limit is 55 and everyone is going 65, no speed limit at all means everyone would be going anywhere from 55 to 125. I think that's a pretty apt metaphor for where we are now with the lax regulations currently in place.
A good guy with a gun is the best defense for a bad guy with a gun: This absurd canard put forth by the NRA leadership is one of the worst not-based-in-reality approaches to gun violence I've heard. who is a good guy anyway? We trust the police and military to be good guys, yet the shootings at Ft. Hood and the cop who went on a vendetta in California show that a person with a gun can be considered a "good guy" until they do something bad. There have been several stories in the news recently about toddlers shooting people. Do we need to arm toddler good guys? It's absurd.
Arm the teachers: This was another brilliant idea from the NRA (and still argued by gun nuts) - arming teachers or school administrators. When the shooting occurred at Ft. Hood, the soldiers there called 911. Why? Because they aren't allowed to have guns on base. If we can't trust trained soldiers on a military base to carry a gun, how is it that we want to trust untrained teachers to carry a gun in a school full of children??
A government registry of guns will result in the government confiscating all guns: This has been the paranoid conspiracy theory since the day President Obama was elected. They pointed to the fact that he did nothing his first term as evidence he was lulling us all into complacency so could get re-elected and really pull out his agenda (although why he wouldn't just do it his first when he had a friendly Congress defies common sense). After Sandy Hook, he has decided to pursue getting gun laws fixed to prevent needless gun deaths. As mentioned in the first paragraph, the Senate is having a hard time getting even universal background checks passed. How likely is it that anything even remotely onerous has a chance of passing into law? And while we're at it - let's look at the logistics of this. With 30-40% of households in the U.S. owning guns and anywhere from 200 to 300 million guns owned, what is the likelihood that the government has a remote chance in hell of rounding all of those up? It's not physically possible, there's not enough manpower to do it, there's not enough money in any department's budget to accomplish it. This one is just plain stupid.
The Supreme Court has determined that the 2nd Amendment applies to more than just militias: Again - the gun nuts (who tend to be right-wing) have decided that the Supreme Court is suddenly The Law Of The Land when they agree with a ruling. The Supreme Court has also previously decided that blacks were not citizens and that slavery could not be outlawed. They got that one wrong too. The right-wing coined the phrase "activist Supreme Court" and I think it applies to their ruling on gun ownership and the 2nd Amendment. If any law were able to make it out of Congress and make it to the President's desk, it would likely get tested via the courts, and then we'll see what they think of any of these proposed gun regulations.
The end goal of any gun regulation (or package of regulations) is to reduce gun violence. The gun nuts say "guns don't kill people - people kill people". The truth is that people with guns kill people, easily, efficiently, and from a distance (if desired). I think the simple answer is to make the gun owner legally liable for any death or injury that results from the use of any gun of which they are the legal owner. Comprehensive background checks + a registry of gun ownership for every gun that leaves a gun factory will ensure that anyone who buys a gun knows they a liable. If they loaned it to a friend or family member - unless they registered the transaction, they would still be liable. If they resold it without doing a background check on the buyer and registering the new owner - they would be liable. If it was stolen and they didn't report it - they would be liable.
This would eliminate street dealers, would prevent criminals from getting guns from pawn shops, and would encourage owners to be more responsible to prevent accidental deaths. It also would not prevent "law-abiding" gun owners from buying and owning guns. I think that's something we could all agree on.
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Comment by 
Raine on 04/15/2013 13:08:37
good morning!
Raine on 04/15/2013 13:08:37
good morning!
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 13:18:29
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 13:18:29
Morning. How was everybody's weekend?
Comment by 
wickedpam on 04/15/2013 13:20:21
wickedpam on 04/15/2013 13:20:21
Morning 
Comment by wickedpam on 04/15/2013 13:21:36
Got my potatoes, peas, oregano and 2 types of basil in the ground finally.
wickedpam on 04/15/2013 13:21:36
Quote by Mondobubba:
Morning. How was everybody's weekend?
Got my potatoes, peas, oregano and 2 types of basil in the ground finally.
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 13:26:52
Yay!
BTW has the cicada chorus started yet?
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 13:26:52
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:
Morning. How was everybody's weekend?
Got my potatoes, peas, oregano and 2 types of basil in the ground finally.
Yay!
BTW has the cicada chorus started yet?
Comment by 
TriSec on 04/15/2013 13:28:57
TriSec on 04/15/2013 13:28:57
As celebrated in Massachusetts and Maine, today is the *REAL* Patriot's Day.
(Well, actually April 18, but it's a Monday "hack" holiday.) Oh, and we've got marathons and baseball around here, too.
(Well, actually April 18, but it's a Monday "hack" holiday.) Oh, and we've got marathons and baseball around here, too.
Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 13:30:15
Well, I moved my grill, transplanted two bulbs, and looked at my garden and wondered why the landscapers mulched it - all that has to go.
Like when it's warm enough to stand outside for more than 10 minutes.
*shakes fist southwesterly*
TriSec on 04/15/2013 13:30:15
Quote by wickedpam:
Got my potatoes, peas, oregano and 2 types of basil in the ground finally.
Well, I moved my grill, transplanted two bulbs, and looked at my garden and wondered why the landscapers mulched it - all that has to go.
Like when it's warm enough to stand outside for more than 10 minutes.
*shakes fist southwesterly*
Comment by wickedpam on 04/15/2013 13:34:32
you know I haven't noticed - they said this brood isn't going to be as bad as the one a few years ago.
wickedpam on 04/15/2013 13:34:32
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:
Morning. How was everybody's weekend?
Got my potatoes, peas, oregano and 2 types of basil in the ground finally.
Yay!
BTW has the cicada chorus started yet?
you know I haven't noticed - they said this brood isn't going to be as bad as the one a few years ago.
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 13:37:19
Raine on 04/15/2013 13:37:19
Bob Perry has died.
I'm sure you'll remember Bob Perry fondly. He brought us Swift Boat Veterans for truth. And this:
And B*sh, and Delay and Scott Walker....
His death was confirmed by lobbyist and former state Rep. Neal T. "Buddy" Jones, a family friend and business associate, who said in a statement, "Bob Perry passed away peacefully in his sleep last night. The family asks for privacy right now as they grieve their loss. They look forward to talking with their friends in the coming days."
In mid-2006, Perry donated $5 million to found a new 527 group, the Economic Freedom Fund. The $5 million makes the group one of the top ten in the 2006 election cycle. He also appears to be the sole donor to Americans for Honesty on Issues. These groups have primarily paid for negative advertisements targeting Democratic Party candidates in the 2006 United States general election.
In 2010, Perry donated $7 million to the 527 group American Crossroads, making it the largest single donation that the organization has received to date. American Crossroads primarily works to elect Republican and conservative legislators. The super PAC Restore Our Future (supporting Mitt Romney) received $3 million from Perry in February 2011. Perry also donated to the Super PAC Congressional Leadership Fund, making his total contributions to Super PACs nearly $8 million.
In 2011, Perry donated $2,531,799 to Texas Governor and United States Presidential Candidate Rick Perry (R, TX) toward his Presidential campaign.
Between 2011 and 2012 Perry donated another $10 million to the Mitt Romney affillated Restore our Future and another $6.5 million to American Crossroads. Perry is the biggest contributor to SuperPACs in the 2012 election cycle with a total of $18.5 million as of September 2012.
And B*sh, and Delay and Scott Walker....
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 13:40:48
If I remember from the brood maps, you are at the bottom of the area for brood II. You are smack dab in the middle of brood X.
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 13:40:48
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:
Morning. How was everybody's weekend?
Got my potatoes, peas, oregano and 2 types of basil in the ground finally.
Yay!
BTW has the cicada chorus started yet?
you know I haven't noticed - they said this brood isn't going to be as bad as the one a few years ago.
If I remember from the brood maps, you are at the bottom of the area for brood II. You are smack dab in the middle of brood X.
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 13:41:22
He is now in Hell.
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 13:41:22
Quote by Raine:
Bob Perry has died.I'm sure you'll remember Bob Perry fondly. He brought us Swift Boat Veterans for truth. And this:His death was confirmed by lobbyist and former state Rep. Neal T. "Buddy" Jones, a family friend and business associate, who said in a statement, "Bob Perry passed away peacefully in his sleep last night. The family asks for privacy right now as they grieve their loss. They look forward to talking with their friends in the coming days."In mid-2006, Perry donated $5 million to found a new 527 group, the Economic Freedom Fund. The $5 million makes the group one of the top ten in the 2006 election cycle. He also appears to be the sole donor to Americans for Honesty on Issues. These groups have primarily paid for negative advertisements targeting Democratic Party candidates in the 2006 United States general election.
In 2010, Perry donated $7 million to the 527 group American Crossroads, making it the largest single donation that the organization has received to date. American Crossroads primarily works to elect Republican and conservative legislators. The super PAC Restore Our Future (supporting Mitt Romney) received $3 million from Perry in February 2011. Perry also donated to the Super PAC Congressional Leadership Fund, making his total contributions to Super PACs nearly $8 million.
In 2011, Perry donated $2,531,799 to Texas Governor and United States Presidential Candidate Rick Perry (R, TX) toward his Presidential campaign.
Between 2011 and 2012 Perry donated another $10 million to the Mitt Romney affillated Restore our Future and another $6.5 million to American Crossroads. Perry is the biggest contributor to SuperPACs in the 2012 election cycle with a total of $18.5 million as of September 2012.
And B*sh, and Delay and Scott Walker....
He is now in Hell.
Comment by wickedpam on 04/15/2013 13:43:03
that sounds right - they do seem to compare everything to that rascally set of deliquents of brood x
wickedpam on 04/15/2013 13:43:03
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:
Morning. How was everybody's weekend?
Got my potatoes, peas, oregano and 2 types of basil in the ground finally.
Yay!
BTW has the cicada chorus started yet?
you know I haven't noticed - they said this brood isn't going to be as bad as the one a few years ago.
If I remember from the brood maps, you are at the bottom of the area for brood II. You are smack dab in the middle of brood X.
that sounds right - they do seem to compare everything to that rascally set of deliquents of brood x
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 13:47:30
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 13:47:30
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:
Morning. How was everybody's weekend?
Got my potatoes, peas, oregano and 2 types of basil in the ground finally.
Yay!
BTW has the cicada chorus started yet?
you know I haven't noticed - they said this brood isn't going to be as bad as the one a few years ago.
If I remember from the brood maps, you are at the bottom of the area for brood II. You are smack dab in the middle of brood X.
that sounds right - they do seem to compare everything to that rascally set of deliquents of brood x
Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 13:51:48
TriSec on 04/15/2013 13:51:48
Women's Elite runners and the wheelchairs are already on the course. Men's Elite at 10, I think....then the vast sea of unwashed heathens to follow.
First pitch at 11:05. And since the mean Republicans took our F-15s away, no flyby this year.
(That's legendary; a few years ago they did Hopkinton, then flew the marathon route and buzzed Fenway. Unannouced. Completely disrupted the game for a minute.)
First pitch at 11:05. And since the mean Republicans took our F-15s away, no flyby this year.
(That's legendary; a few years ago they did Hopkinton, then flew the marathon route and buzzed Fenway. Unannouced. Completely disrupted the game for a minute.)
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 14:08:09
Thank you for the parochial regionalism update, Sparky
:ducks brick:
I forgot that the it is Patriots Day.
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 14:08:09
Quote by TriSec:
Women's Elite runners and the wheelchairs are already on the course. Men's Elite at 10, I think....then the vast sea of unwashed heathens to follow.
First pitch at 11:05. And since the mean Republicans took our F-15s away, no flyby this year.
(That's legendary; a few years ago they did Hopkinton, then flew the marathon route and buzzed Fenway. Unannouced. Completely disrupted the game for a minute.)
Thank you for the parochial regionalism update, Sparky
:ducks brick: I forgot that the it is Patriots Day.
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 14:10:52
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 14:10:52
For the Billionth time, getting your kids vaccinated isn't going to give them autism. Andrew Wakefield is full of shit. Jenny McCarthy is full of shit. Learn some basic fucking science, fucktards.
Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 14:12:15
TriSec on 04/15/2013 14:12:15
I'm sorry, when is the Jacksonville Marathon?
And how many Minutemen took on the British Army from your area?
Punk.
And how many Minutemen took on the British Army from your area?
Punk.
Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 14:15:21
TriSec on 04/15/2013 14:15:21
Here is something to ponder....
I can't drive half the marathon route in 40:14. That's insane.
10:01 am | Eric Bauer: Hiroyuki Yamamoto of Japan went through the half marathon in Wellesley Center in 40:14, well off the men's wheelchair record pace of Josh Cassidy, who is among a group of five chasing him.
I can't drive half the marathon route in 40:14. That's insane.
Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 14:17:24
TriSec on 04/15/2013 14:17:24
Comment by 
BobR on 04/15/2013 14:23:25
BobR on 04/15/2013 14:23:25
blog is posted.
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 14:32:42
Raine on 04/15/2013 14:32:42
I'm gonna book mark this blog...
Comment by wickedpam on 04/15/2013 14:42:46
wickedpam on 04/15/2013 14:42:46
Add mandatory safety training and yearly or biyearly testing but I could be flexible on that if we get the other things your mentioned 
Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 14:42:55
TriSec on 04/15/2013 14:42:55
Ooh, I should cross-post this over to Kos.
With your permission, of course.
With your permission, of course.
Comment by BobR on 04/15/2013 14:43:08
settle down, kids!
BobR on 04/15/2013 14:43:08
Quote by Mondobubba:
Thank you for the parochial regionalism update, Sparky
I forgot that the it is Patriots Day.
Quote by TriSec:
I'm sorry, when is the Jacksonville Marathon?
And how many Minutemen took on the British Army from your area?
Punk.
settle down, kids!
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 14:43:28
Raine on 04/15/2013 14:43:28
Comment by BobR on 04/15/2013 14:44:24
No one ever has to ask my permission to post any of my blogs anywhere, unless I specifically state otherwise.
BobR on 04/15/2013 14:44:24
Quote by TriSec:
Ooh, I should cross-post this over to Kos.
With your permission, of course.
No one ever has to ask my permission to post any of my blogs anywhere, unless I specifically state otherwise.
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 14:46:35
Don't have one. Minutemen, shminutemen. Oldest City in the US is the 30 miles to my south.
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 14:46:35
Quote by TriSec:
I'm sorry, when is the Jacksonville Marathon?
And how many Minutemen took on the British Army from your area?
Punk.
Don't have one. Minutemen, shminutemen. Oldest City in the US is the 30 miles to my south.
Comment by 
Will in Chicago on 04/15/2013 15:03:40
TriSec, are schools open today?
BobR, thanks for a great blog. I think that we need to look rationally at the gun issue. In Chicago, surrounding suburbs and the states are the source of most of the guns on the city streets. There were four people killed, 21 wounded by guns over the weekend in Chicago. (It was a warm day yesterday.)
As for myself, the job search continues. No interviews scheduled, but I am seeing more openings. I fear that Rahm Emmanuel's school board deciding to close 53 schools will put a glut of teachers on the local market.
Will in Chicago on 04/15/2013 15:03:40
Quote by TriSec:
As celebrated in Massachusetts and Maine, today is the *REAL* Patriot's Day.
(Well, actually April 18, but it's a Monday "hack" holiday.) Oh, and we've got marathons and baseball around here, too.
TriSec, are schools open today?
BobR, thanks for a great blog. I think that we need to look rationally at the gun issue. In Chicago, surrounding suburbs and the states are the source of most of the guns on the city streets. There were four people killed, 21 wounded by guns over the weekend in Chicago. (It was a warm day yesterday.)
As for myself, the job search continues. No interviews scheduled, but I am seeing more openings. I fear that Rahm Emmanuel's school board deciding to close 53 schools will put a glut of teachers on the local market.
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 15:04:20
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 15:04:20
Furthermore, when I was a wee Mondo, a mere 45 minute trip up the BW Parkway there's a little place called Fort McHenry. You might have heard of it.
:regional pride: :rocky steps: :fist pumping:
:regional pride: :rocky steps: :fist pumping:
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 04/15/2013 15:14:21
Yes, the Kenyan Invitational.
Hey Tri, any idea what's going in where the old Borders is next to LLB?
trojanrabbit on 04/15/2013 15:14:21
Quote by TriSec:
As celebrated in Massachusetts and Maine, today is the *REAL* Patriot's Day.
(Well, actually April 18, but it's a Monday "hack" holiday.) Oh, and we've got marathons and baseball around here, too.
Yes, the Kenyan Invitational.
Hey Tri, any idea what's going in where the old Borders is next to LLB?
Comment by Will in Chicago on 04/15/2013 15:15:28
Will in Chicago on 04/15/2013 15:15:28
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 15:19:54
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 15:19:54
Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 15:22:28
The rumour is an elitist vegetarian restaraunt, part of the Capitol Grille chain. Which will do nothing for our foot traffic, IMHO.
But there's two floors there - the rest of it is anyone's guess.
TriSec on 04/15/2013 15:22:28
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Yes, the Kenyan Invitational.
Hey Tri, any idea what's going in where the old Borders is next to LLB?
The rumour is an elitist vegetarian restaraunt, part of the Capitol Grille chain. Which will do nothing for our foot traffic, IMHO.
But there's two floors there - the rest of it is anyone's guess.
Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 15:23:06
TriSec on 04/15/2013 15:23:06
Will, It's school vacation week around these parts.
Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 15:25:37
Just a pop star being a pop star. Need I remind you of the Prince / USA for Africa kerfuffle back in the day?
TriSec on 04/15/2013 15:25:37
Quote by Raine:
Justin Bieber.... REALLY? Really.
Just a pop star being a pop star. Need I remind you of the Prince / USA for Africa kerfuffle back in the day?
Comment by Will in Chicago on 04/15/2013 15:29:20
While I have not had any interviews yet, I am applying to a bunch of openings. The advice I am getting from many friends is to look East. (I am hoping to have some money for a Virginia license soon -- I had to take care of some bills from my tax refund.)
Will in Chicago on 04/15/2013 15:29:20
Quote by TriSec:
Will, It's school vacation week around these parts.
While I have not had any interviews yet, I am applying to a bunch of openings. The advice I am getting from many friends is to look East. (I am hoping to have some money for a Virginia license soon -- I had to take care of some bills from my tax refund.)
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 15:44:42
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 15:44:42
Hey coffee fiends, according to the DSM-V, you are mentally ill!
Slate has an article
Another example is the “disorder†“caffeine intoxication,†characterized by at least five symptoms after consuming the equivalent of two to three cups of coffee: restlessness, gastrointestinal problems, difficulty sleeping, nervousness, and rapid heartbeat.
Slate has an article
Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 15:46:33
TriSec on 04/15/2013 15:46:33
Compared to some other places, are lot of districts here are relatively well off.
Waltham has just completed a 10-year capital improvement program, we've got all new elementary schools, a brand-new middle school, and one newly renovated. The only one that wasn't touched was the High School.
Mass has also asked for and received an NCLB exemption, we're not held to federal standards because the MCAS standards are higher, so you've got a much freer hand in the curriculum, too.
Oh, and Mass is a hotbed of teacher and education unions. Since all of Massachusetts is essentially one big college town, you'll find a level of some respect that may not be prevalent in other places.
Waltham has just completed a 10-year capital improvement program, we've got all new elementary schools, a brand-new middle school, and one newly renovated. The only one that wasn't touched was the High School.
Mass has also asked for and received an NCLB exemption, we're not held to federal standards because the MCAS standards are higher, so you've got a much freer hand in the curriculum, too.
Oh, and Mass is a hotbed of teacher and education unions. Since all of Massachusetts is essentially one big college town, you'll find a level of some respect that may not be prevalent in other places.
Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 15:49:34
Thank the AMA for that; they control the codesets and the fee schedules. Looks like they've figured out a new way to make more money.
TriSec on 04/15/2013 15:49:34
Quote by Mondobubba:
Hey coffee fiends, according to the DSM-V, you are mentally ill!
Slate has an article
Thank the AMA for that; they control the codesets and the fee schedules. Looks like they've figured out a new way to make more money.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 04/15/2013 15:49:52
Will in Chicago on 04/15/2013 15:49:52
Okay, I am counting geek coup, as the CEO of Paizo Publishing asked for a copy of an old Dungeons and Dragon mod that I converted sometime back for a local gaming event. Now, if they only had a writing/editing job open.
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 15:50:38
That might be one of the most apt descriptions of the Bay State I've ever heard.
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 15:50:38
Quote by TriSec:
Compared to some other places, are lot of districts here are relatively well off.
Waltham has just completed a 10-year capital improvement program, we've got all new elementary schools, a brand-new middle school, and one newly renovated. The only one that wasn't touched was the High School.
Mass has also asked for and received an NCLB exemption, we're not held to federal standards because the MCAS standards are higher, so you've got a much freer hand in the curriculum, too.
Oh, and Mass is a hotbed of teacher and education unions. Since all of Massachusetts is essentially one big college town, you'll find a level of some respect that may not be prevalent in other places.
That might be one of the most apt descriptions of the Bay State I've ever heard.
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 15:51:58
That is interesting. There is connection between the codes and what gets into the DSM?
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 15:51:58
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
Hey coffee fiends, according to the DSM-V, you are mentally ill!
Slate has an article
Thank the AMA for that; they control the codesets and the fee schedules. Looks like they've figured out a new way to make more money.
That is interesting. There is connection between the codes and what gets into the DSM?
Comment by Will in Chicago on 04/15/2013 16:06:41
Let's say that teachers do not get a lot of respect in Chicagoland. If you are a sub, expect shoddy treatment. Too often, teachers here teach to tests. No one is happy witht he tests.
With any luck, I will hear from some of the people in your area soon, TriSec. I just applied on Friday to a position at Waltham High School and I applied yesterday to two positions in Newton. (I should check out Zaftigs in Brookline and Natick if I get to your state. It seems a lot like The Bagel in Chicago.)
Will in Chicago on 04/15/2013 16:06:41
Quote by TriSec:
Compared to some other places, are lot of districts here are relatively well off.
Waltham has just completed a 10-year capital improvement program, we've got all new elementary schools, a brand-new middle school, and one newly renovated. The only one that wasn't touched was the High School.
Mass has also asked for and received an NCLB exemption, we're not held to federal standards because the MCAS standards are higher, so you've got a much freer hand in the curriculum, too.
Oh, and Mass is a hotbed of teacher and education unions. Since all of Massachusetts is essentially one big college town, you'll find a level of some respect that may not be prevalent in other places.
Let's say that teachers do not get a lot of respect in Chicagoland. If you are a sub, expect shoddy treatment. Too often, teachers here teach to tests. No one is happy witht he tests.
With any luck, I will hear from some of the people in your area soon, TriSec. I just applied on Friday to a position at Waltham High School and I applied yesterday to two positions in Newton. (I should check out Zaftigs in Brookline and Natick if I get to your state. It seems a lot like The Bagel in Chicago.)
Comment by BobR on 04/15/2013 16:06:50
hey - that seems like a cool thing, right?...
:RPG ignorant:
BobR on 04/15/2013 16:06:50
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Okay, I am counting geek coup, as the CEO of Paizo Publishing asked for a copy of an old Dungeons and Dragon mod that I converted sometime back for a local gaming event. Now, if they only had a writing/editing job open.
hey - that seems like a cool thing, right?...
:RPG ignorant:
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 16:10:17
Raine on 04/15/2013 16:10:17
apropos of this paragraph in todays blog:
SCOTUS refuses to hear NYS Gun law challenge.
The Supreme Court has determined that the 2nd amendment applies to more than just militias: Again - the gun nuts (who tend to be right-wing) have decided that the Supreme Court is suddenly The Law Of The Land when they agree with a ruling. The Supreme Court also decided that blacks were not citizens and that slavery could not be outlawed. They got that one wrong too. The right-wing coined the phrase "activist Supreme Court" and I think it applies to their ruling on gun ownership and the 2nd Amendment. If any law were able to make it out of Congress and make it to the President's desk, it would likely get tested via the courts, and then we'll see what they think of any of these proposed gun regulations.
SCOTUS refuses to hear NYS Gun law challenge.
Comment by wickedpam on 04/15/2013 16:10:42
what about writing your own and seeing if you can get it published or very self publish. Don't know if you follow Table Top over on Geek & Sundry - Wil Wheton has contacts with what seems like bunches of gaming companies
wickedpam on 04/15/2013 16:10:42
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Okay, I am counting geek coup, as the CEO of Paizo Publishing asked for a copy of an old Dungeons and Dragon mod that I converted sometime back for a local gaming event. Now, if they only had a writing/editing job open.
what about writing your own and seeing if you can get it published or very self publish. Don't know if you follow Table Top over on Geek & Sundry - Wil Wheton has contacts with what seems like bunches of gaming companies
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 16:10:52
That is address in the article as well:
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 16:10:52
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
Hey coffee fiends, according to the DSM-V, you are mentally ill!
Slate has an article
Thank the AMA for that; they control the codesets and the fee schedules. Looks like they've figured out a new way to make more money.
That is address in the article as well:
What is going in our culture that allows for this expanding definition of mental illness? There are many explanations. The first is related to payment for treatment. Psychological treatments and medications can be useful for a variety of problems, but for those treatments to be even partially paid for by health insurance companies, the problems must have a diagnosis. It’s not enough that there’s a problem that’s being addressed. It has to be a problem. (Of course, if you treat a problem before it becomes a mental illness, the health insurance company will have ended up saving a significant amount of money, but they don’t pay for early mental health intervention—there has to be a problem. But that’s a story beyond the scope of this article.)
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 16:12:50
Bobber, Will can take as many unchallenged inhaller huffs with his Inhaler Power +3 as he needs during any upcoming melee for the next in-game day.
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 16:12:50
Quote by BobR:Quote by Will in Chicago:
Okay, I am counting geek coup, as the CEO of Paizo Publishing asked for a copy of an old Dungeons and Dragon mod that I converted sometime back for a local gaming event. Now, if they only had a writing/editing job open.
hey - that seems like a cool thing, right?...
Bobber, Will can take as many unchallenged inhaller huffs with his Inhaler Power +3 as he needs during any upcoming melee for the next in-game day.
Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 16:13:06
TriSec on 04/15/2013 16:13:06
Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 16:28:51
TriSec on 04/15/2013 16:28:51
Oh, dear.
I hope we don't get an unpleasant surprise next season. My aunt is about to close up shop and head north for the summer.
And most disturbing thing about the story?
I hope we don't get an unpleasant surprise next season. My aunt is about to close up shop and head north for the summer.
And most disturbing thing about the story?
"If you got a ham sandwich in Jamaica or the Dominican Republic, or an orange, and you didn't eat it all and you bring it back into the States and then you discard it, at some point, things can emerge from those products," Feiber said.
Comment by 
livingonli on 04/15/2013 16:49:40
livingonli on 04/15/2013 16:49:40
Good day, folks. Still feeling tired today. Might be time for a long nap.
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 16:54:15
Not so much and IQ text, but a general gun safety class. Jaysus, don't use your gun to quiet people down, stupid. Especially when you are shooting it in a random direction, stupid.
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 16:54:15
Not so much and IQ text, but a general gun safety class. Jaysus, don't use your gun to quiet people down, stupid. Especially when you are shooting it in a random direction, stupid.
Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 17:02:13
TriSec on 04/15/2013 17:02:13
And I have just happened across some morning jetsam in the kitchen a scored a pristine butternut donut for my evening commute!
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 17:06:56
Hey, why not use the pythons that are slithering around the 'Glades to eat the gross giant snails?? Am I a genius or what?
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 17:06:56
Quote by TriSec:
Oh, dear.
I hope we don't get an unpleasant surprise next season. My aunt is about to close up shop and head north for the summer.
And most disturbing thing about the story?
"If you got a ham sandwich in Jamaica or the Dominican Republic, or an orange, and you didn't eat it all and you bring it back into the States and then you discard it, at some point, things can emerge from those products," Feiber said.
Hey, why not use the pythons that are slithering around the 'Glades to eat the gross giant snails?? Am I a genius or what?
Comment by 
Scoopster on 04/15/2013 17:33:13
Scoopster on 04/15/2013 17:33:13
Afternoon all.. 
In case you missed it this weekend..
In case you missed it this weekend..
Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 17:44:57
TriSec on 04/15/2013 17:44:57
Marathon:
And Sox up 2-1, top of the 9th.
It hasn’t taken Lelisa Desisa long to get the hang of this marathon thing.
Running just his second race at the 26.2-mile distance, Desisa won the men’s race at the 117th Boston Marathon Monday, winning in a time of 2 hours 10 minutes 23 seconds.
Desisa, a 23-year-old Ethiopian who won the Dubai Marathon in his debut in the event, pulled away from a three-man pack on Boylston Street to hold off Micah Kogo and Gebregziabher Gebremariam.
“The race was just fine for me,’’ said Desisa, who has specialized in the 10,000 meters and the half-marathon. “The downhill was easy, but the uphill was very hard.’’
American Jason Hartmann finished fourth for the year in a row.
Jeptoo wins women’s race
Even as she led the women’s Boston Marathon for mile upon mile with nary another female runner in sight, Ana Dulce Felix kept looking over her shoulder.
Turns out she was wise to be on the lookout. Because Rita Jeptoo was closer than she appeared.
Jeptoo, the 2006 champion from Kenya, led a small pack that caught and passed Felix on the 24th mile, then pulled away from the rest of the lead group to win the women’s elite race at the Boston Marathon. Her unofficial time was 2 hours 26 minutes and 25 seconds.
Felix, from Portugal, took over for early leader Yolanda Caballero of Colombia at mile 17 and held a lead of as much as a minute over the rest of the field until the 23d mile. That’s when a group of five women began gaining on her, cutting her lead to 23 seconds.
Kenyan Sharon Charop, last year’s winner, and Meseret Hailu of Ethiopa passed Felix, as did American Shalane Flanagan.
Jeptoo pulled away from runner-up Hailu and third-place finisher Cherop just before Kenmore Square, winning by a 33-second margin.
Flanagan was fourth in an unofficial 2:27:08. Kara Goucher, Flanagan’s friend and training partner, was 10th in 2:28:11.
And Sox up 2-1, top of the 9th.
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 17:45:51
Raine on 04/15/2013 17:45:51
So. yall remember the del ray patch article I showed you last week? the one about the Sushi place being 18 and over?
Huffo not only wrote about it, but featured some of the comments... check out #2...
Huffo not only wrote about it, but featured some of the comments... check out #2...
Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 17:51:42
What a pompous, overbearing, selfish, arrogant, bast-
Wha?
TriSec on 04/15/2013 17:51:42
Quote by Raine:
So. yall remember the del ray patch article I showed you last week? the one about the Sushi place being 18 and over?
Huffo not only wrote about it, but featured some of the comments... check out #2...
What a pompous, overbearing, selfish, arrogant, bast-
Wha?
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 17:56:46
The comments -- Mike Anderson is the owner (by the way. )
Raine on 04/15/2013 17:56:46
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Raine:
So. yall remember the del ray patch article I showed you last week? the one about the Sushi place being 18 and over?
Huffo not only wrote about it, but featured some of the comments... check out #2...
What a pompous, overbearing, selfish, arrogant, bast-
Wha?
Mike Anderson is the owner (by the way. )
Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 18:20:00
TriSec on 04/15/2013 18:20:00
Well, as the parent of the most perfectly behaved, precocious, genius child of the blog, even I agree.
On those all-too-rare ocassions when I am able to go out with Mrs. TriSec sans Javi, the last thing I want is a squalling child in my ear.
Or, as they say on a Disney podcast I favor, "The only annoying kids in the pool are YOUR annoying kids....and that's your fault for bringing them!"
On those all-too-rare ocassions when I am able to go out with Mrs. TriSec sans Javi, the last thing I want is a squalling child in my ear.
Or, as they say on a Disney podcast I favor, "The only annoying kids in the pool are YOUR annoying kids....and that's your fault for bringing them!"
Comment by wickedpam on 04/15/2013 18:24:05
I love how this has escalated all the way to the Post
wickedpam on 04/15/2013 18:24:05
Quote by Raine:
BobR has officially been quoted in WaPo
I love how this has escalated all the way to the Post
Comment by BobR on 04/15/2013 18:24:31
unofficially, actually. My name was withheld to protect... um...
BobR on 04/15/2013 18:24:31
Quote by Raine:
BobR has officially been quoted in WaPo
unofficially, actually. My name was withheld to protect... um...
Comment by BobR on 04/15/2013 18:25:07
BobR on 04/15/2013 18:25:07
Quote by Scoopster:
Afternoon all..
In case you missed it this weekend..
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 18:29:02
That should be, Jamie: Briane. Briane, BRIANE! Briane: WHAT! Jamie: Danger Zone! Just sayin...
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 18:29:02
Quote by BobR:Quote by Scoopster:
Afternoon all..
In case you missed it this weekend..
That should be, Jamie: Briane. Briane, BRIANE! Briane: WHAT! Jamie: Danger Zone! Just sayin...
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 18:32:28
Bobber, Archer. Watch it. Love it. You will understand "Danger Zone."
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 18:32:28
Quote by BobR:Quote by Scoopster:
Afternoon all..
In case you missed it this weekend..
Bobber, Archer. Watch it. Love it. You will understand "Danger Zone."
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 18:36:00
The non breeder who will wish you spawned so as to have a child take care of you in you elder years.... (according to one person on the patch)
And then there was this -- too f*cking funny:
Raine on 04/15/2013 18:36:00
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
BobR has officially been quoted in WaPo
unofficially, actually. My name was withheld to protect... um...
The non breeder who will wish you spawned so as to have a child take care of you in you elder years.... (according to one person on the patch)
And then there was this -- too f*cking funny:
M Smith
9:56 pm on Tuesday, April 9, 2013
As a "breeder," I enjoy bringing my two little "spawn" to Del Ray restaurants just to irritate "tolerant" non-breeders like Bob Rouse. To all of those complaining about families dining out in Del Ray, do you think you would have so many dining options on Mt. Vernon Ave. if families weren't dining there? Restaurants cannot survive on non-"breeders" alone. Without us, they'd all close down and be replaced by Walgreens.
(response) Bob Rouse
10:17 pm on Tuesday, April 9, 2013
Had I only known that impregnating my wife would have kept the Walgreens at bay, I would have done so in a minute (or perhaps a couple minutes - I want her to enjoy it too). Alas - the time for doing so has passed and as a result I have allowed a chain drugstore to occupy what was once a family-friendly restaurant.... oh wait - I mean a couple family-friendly antique stores, laundromat and convenience store that I doubt was ever visited by M. Smith. Perhaps if it was Chuck-E-Cheese instead of Walgreens, M Smith would not be so angry. Again - my failure to spawn has let down all of Del Ray, and my shame knows no bounds.
M Smith
10:33 pm on Tuesday, April 9, 2013
Bob-someday when you are old and alone, maybe someone's spawn will feed you, bathe you, and comfort you. But don't count on it.
Bob Rouse
10:52 pm on Tuesday, April 9, 2013
Assuming I don't trip over a stroller and break my neck... Do your kids know they were brought into the world to be your unpaid nurses?
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 18:36:23
I am a helper, Bobber. This will bring you up to speed.
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 18:36:23
DANGER ZONE
I am a helper, Bobber. This will bring you up to speed.
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 18:38:58
Bobber, you intolerant non-breeder! How dare you cause a Walgreens to invade the paradise that is Del Ray! :fristy heels: vapours:
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 18:38:58
Quote by Raine:Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
BobR has officially been quoted in WaPo
unofficially, actually. My name was withheld to protect... um...
The non breeder who will wish you spawned so as to have a child take care of you in you elder years.... (according to one person on the patch)
And then there was this -- too f*cking funny:M Smith
9:56 pm on Tuesday, April 9, 2013
As a "breeder," I enjoy bringing my two little "spawn" to Del Ray restaurants just to irritate "tolerant" non-breeders like Bob Rouse. To all of those complaining about families dining out in Del Ray, do you think you would have so many dining options on Mt. Vernon Ave. if families weren't dining there? Restaurants cannot survive on non-"breeders" alone. Without us, they'd all close down and be replaced by Walgreens.
(response) Bob Rouse
10:17 pm on Tuesday, April 9, 2013
Had I only known that impregnating my wife would have kept the Walgreens at bay, I would have done so in a minute (or perhaps a couple minutes - I want her to enjoy it too). Alas - the time for doing so has passed and as a result I have allowed a chain drugstore to occupy what was once a family-friendly restaurant.... oh wait - I mean a couple family-friendly antique stores, laundromat and convenience store that I doubt was ever visited by M. Smith. Perhaps if it was Chuck-E-Cheese instead of Walgreens, M Smith would not be so angry. Again - my failure to spawn has let down all of Del Ray, and my shame knows no bounds.
M Smith
10:33 pm on Tuesday, April 9, 2013
Bob-someday when you are old and alone, maybe someone's spawn will feed you, bathe you, and comfort you. But don't count on it.
Bob Rouse
10:52 pm on Tuesday, April 9, 2013
Assuming I don't trip over a stroller and break my neck... Do your kids know they were brought into the world to be your unpaid nurses?
Bobber, you intolerant non-breeder! How dare you cause a Walgreens to invade the paradise that is Del Ray! :fristy heels: vapours:
Comment by wickedpam on 04/15/2013 18:44:52
Brilliant!
wickedpam on 04/15/2013 18:44:52
Quote by Raine:Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
BobR has officially been quoted in WaPo
unofficially, actually. My name was withheld to protect... um...
The non breeder who will wish you spawned so as to have a child take care of you in you elder years.... (according to one person on the patch)
And then there was this -- too f*cking funny:M Smith
9:56 pm on Tuesday, April 9, 2013
As a "breeder," I enjoy bringing my two little "spawn" to Del Ray restaurants just to irritate "tolerant" non-breeders like Bob Rouse. To all of those complaining about families dining out in Del Ray, do you think you would have so many dining options on Mt. Vernon Ave. if families weren't dining there? Restaurants cannot survive on non-"breeders" alone. Without us, they'd all close down and be replaced by Walgreens.
(response) Bob Rouse
10:17 pm on Tuesday, April 9, 2013
Had I only known that impregnating my wife would have kept the Walgreens at bay, I would have done so in a minute (or perhaps a couple minutes - I want her to enjoy it too). Alas - the time for doing so has passed and as a result I have allowed a chain drugstore to occupy what was once a family-friendly restaurant.... oh wait - I mean a couple family-friendly antique stores, laundromat and convenience store that I doubt was ever visited by M. Smith. Perhaps if it was Chuck-E-Cheese instead of Walgreens, M Smith would not be so angry. Again - my failure to spawn has let down all of Del Ray, and my shame knows no bounds.
M Smith
10:33 pm on Tuesday, April 9, 2013
Bob-someday when you are old and alone, maybe someone's spawn will feed you, bathe you, and comfort you. But don't count on it.
Bob Rouse
10:52 pm on Tuesday, April 9, 2013
Assuming I don't trip over a stroller and break my neck... Do your kids know they were brought into the world to be your unpaid nurses?
Brilliant!
Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 18:49:27
TriSec on 04/15/2013 18:49:27
Not reproducing has not only destroyed my marriage, it now has ruined the community of Del Ray. Those fundies must be onto something.
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 18:51:06
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 18:51:06
Bob, not only would you be tripping over a stroller, but one of the ATV tactical type strollers that cost about 500 bucks, right?
Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 19:06:15
TriSec on 04/15/2013 19:06:15
I feel so inadequate. Javi made do with a $20 umbrella stroller for most of his career.
Then again, we had one of these, too.
Then again, we had one of these, too.
Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 19:12:12
TriSec on 04/15/2013 19:12:12
Boston.com is reporting explosions and smoke near the marathon finish line.
The website is jammed; I can't get a link.
The website is jammed; I can't get a link.
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 19:12:29
Raine on 04/15/2013 19:12:29
What the hell is going on in Boston? explosions at the end of the marathon?
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 19:13:45
Listening to WTOP
At the hotel and the finish line.
Boston EMS was already there. PEople are injured according to WCBS radio
Raine on 04/15/2013 19:13:45
Quote by TriSec:
Boston.com is reporting explosions and smoke near the marathon finish line.
The website is jammed; I can't get a link.
At the hotel and the finish line.
Boston EMS was already there. PEople are injured according to WCBS radio
Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 19:14:04
TriSec on 04/15/2013 19:14:04
WCVB:
BOSTON —Two explosions have been reported near the Boston Marathon finish line on Boylston Street, and there are reports of injuries.
Crews were sent to 617 Boylston St. at about 2:30 p.m. Witnesses said several victims lost limbs, and the area was being evacuated.
NewsCenter 5's Sean Kelly said the blasts happened across the street from the Lenox Hotel.
Many of the injured appeared to be spectators who gathered for the 117th running of the race.
The Fire Marshal's office has been called to investigate.
NewsCenter 5 and WCVB.com will have more information when it becomes available.
BOSTON —Two explosions have been reported near the Boston Marathon finish line on Boylston Street, and there are reports of injuries.
Crews were sent to 617 Boylston St. at about 2:30 p.m. Witnesses said several victims lost limbs, and the area was being evacuated.
NewsCenter 5's Sean Kelly said the blasts happened across the street from the Lenox Hotel.
Many of the injured appeared to be spectators who gathered for the 117th running of the race.
The Fire Marshal's office has been called to investigate.
NewsCenter 5 and WCVB.com will have more information when it becomes available.
Comment by wickedpam on 04/15/2013 19:14:34
I was just going to ask what was going on - came across my newsfeed
wickedpam on 04/15/2013 19:14:34
Quote by Raine:Listening to WTOPQuote by TriSec:
Boston.com is reporting explosions and smoke near the marathon finish line.
The website is jammed; I can't get a link.
At the hotel and the finish line.
Boston EMS was already there. PEople are injured according to WCBS radio
I was just going to ask what was going on - came across my newsfeed
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 19:15:54
Raine on 04/15/2013 19:15:54
The Fairmont Copley ring a bell?
jeesus.
jeesus.
Comment by BobR on 04/15/2013 19:17:08
BobR on 04/15/2013 19:17:08
Quote by Mondobubba:
Bob, not only would you be tripping over a stroller, but one of the ATV tactical type strollers that cost about 500 bucks, right?
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 19:22:40
You have failed as a parent.
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 19:22:40
Quote by TriSec:
I feel so inadequate. Javi made do with a $20 umbrella stroller for most of his career.
Then again, we had one of these, too.
You have failed as a parent.
Comment by Scoopster on 04/15/2013 19:25:26
Scoopster on 04/15/2013 19:25:26
Ah shit this is really not good.. 
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 19:26:21
Raine on 04/15/2013 19:26:21
Going upstairs to watch TV. This sounds pretty bad. people were still crossing the finish line. The marathon routes have been redirected.
people were still crossing the finish line. The marathon routes have been redirected.
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 19:27:22
Raine on 04/15/2013 19:27:22
@AdamSerwer: Chatter on EMS band says another device has been found near a hotel. (4 minutes ago)
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 19:32:47
Raine on 04/15/2013 19:32:47
Just turned on the TV... Arial view showed a lot of blood near the grandstand Local NBC is also reporting people with missing limbs.
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 19:33:56
Raine on 04/15/2013 19:33:56
Twitter has crashed.
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 19:34:54
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 19:34:54
Well that isn't good. Not at all.
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 19:36:52
Raine on 04/15/2013 19:36:52
Watching the video of the immediate explosion, it looks like one runner got hit.
Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 19:37:30
TriSec on 04/15/2013 19:37:30
Dear persons:
New Englanders don't "terrorize" easily...we get mad.
You don't want to mess with mad New Englanders.
(See 1775)
New Englanders don't "terrorize" easily...we get mad.
You don't want to mess with mad New Englanders.
(See 1775)
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 19:38:05
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 19:38:05
Side note, the explosion news broke about 20-25 minutes ago? Fox New just added it to their site in the last 4 minutes. Lame.
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 19:38:08
CNN reporting that it may be the MAndarin Hotel.
Raine on 04/15/2013 19:38:08
Quote by Raine:
@AdamSerwer: Chatter on EMS band says another device has been found near a hotel. (4 minutes ago)
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 19:42:42
Raine on 04/15/2013 19:42:42
They keep saying the green line is right under this explosion area.
Oh wow, MSNBC just showed a still of the explosion. Oh no. 
Oh wow, MSNBC just showed a still of the explosion. Oh no.
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 19:44:59
Raine on 04/15/2013 19:44:59
Unconfirmed: 2 explosions: Finish line and Boylston st. -- both outside building.
Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 19:45:05
BOSTON —Two explosions have been reported near the Boston Marathon finish line on Boylston Street as thousands of people gathered for the race, and there are reports of injuries.
Photos: Explosions at finish line of Boston Marathon
At least two explosions were reported at the finish line of the Boston Marathon Monday.
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Live Updates | Images: Blasts rock marathon
The blasts happened at about 2:50 p.m. near the intersection of Boylston and Exeter streets.
The first explosion happened across from the Lenox Hotel and the second blast was about 15 seconds later, witnesses said.
"I was turning the corner. I was near the Hynes (Convention) Center. I saw two explosions. I just turned around and ran. It was a fireball -- a huge fireball," one runner said.
Store fronts have been blown out, and there have been reports of dozens of injuries. A Boston police officer is said to be among the injured.
Witnesses said several victims lost limbs, the race was stopped and the area is being evacuated.
Many of the injured appeared to be spectators who gathered for the 117th running of the race.
NewsCenter 5's Sean Kelly said the impact of the explosions could be felt blocks away.
The victims were being taken to Massachusetts General Hospital.
Read more: http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/metro/Explosions-reported-near-Boston-Marathon-finish-line/-/11971628/19757044/-/ktnc1wz/-/index.html#ixzz2QYyDkIsw
TriSec on 04/15/2013 19:45:05
BOSTON —Two explosions have been reported near the Boston Marathon finish line on Boylston Street as thousands of people gathered for the race, and there are reports of injuries.
Photos: Explosions at finish line of Boston Marathon
At least two explosions were reported at the finish line of the Boston Marathon Monday.
More
Live Updates | Images: Blasts rock marathon
The blasts happened at about 2:50 p.m. near the intersection of Boylston and Exeter streets.
The first explosion happened across from the Lenox Hotel and the second blast was about 15 seconds later, witnesses said.
"I was turning the corner. I was near the Hynes (Convention) Center. I saw two explosions. I just turned around and ran. It was a fireball -- a huge fireball," one runner said.
Store fronts have been blown out, and there have been reports of dozens of injuries. A Boston police officer is said to be among the injured.
Witnesses said several victims lost limbs, the race was stopped and the area is being evacuated.
Many of the injured appeared to be spectators who gathered for the 117th running of the race.
NewsCenter 5's Sean Kelly said the impact of the explosions could be felt blocks away.
The victims were being taken to Massachusetts General Hospital.
Read more: http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/metro/Explosions-reported-near-Boston-Marathon-finish-line/-/11971628/19757044/-/ktnc1wz/-/index.html#ixzz2QYyDkIsw
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 19:46:25
Raine on 04/15/2013 19:46:25
There are reports of up to 50 people injured.
Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 19:47:46
First explosion occurred near the Boston Public Library
by Neil Ungerleider/Staff 4/15/2013 7:47:02 PM
Police are looking for secondary explosive devices, though there is no confirmation that there are any.
by Neil Ungerleider/Staff 4/15/2013 7:46:36 PM
Newton fire department reports remainder of marathon canceled
by Neil Ungerleider/Staff 4/15/2013 7:45:18 PM
Neither race officials nor public officials could immediately estimate the number or degree of injuries.
by Neil Ungerleider/Staff 4/15/2013 7:44:40 PM
"There are a lot of people down," said one man, whose bib No. 17528 identified him as Frank Deruyter of North Carolina. He was not injured, but marathon workers were carrying one woman, who did not appear to be a runner, to the medical area as blood gushed from her leg. A Boston police officer was wheeled from the course with a leg injury that was bleeding.
by Neil Ungerleider/Staff 4/15/2013 7:44:31 PM
Two explosions shattered the finish of the Boston Marathon on Monday, sending authorities out on the course to carry away the injured while stragglers in the 26.2-mile race were rerouted away from the smoking site.
Competitors and race volunteers were crying as they fled the chaos. Bloody spectators were being carried to the medical tent that had been set up to care for fatigued runners.
by Neil Ungerleider/Staff 4/15/2013 7:44:16 PM
Officials tell Channel 5 some injuries are very severe.
by Susan Griffin WCVB TV 4/15/2013 7:43:30 PM
Read more: http://livewire.wcvb.com/Event/117th_Running_of_Boston_Marathon#ixzz2QYyzXFbX
TriSec on 04/15/2013 19:47:46
First explosion occurred near the Boston Public Library
by Neil Ungerleider/Staff 4/15/2013 7:47:02 PM
Police are looking for secondary explosive devices, though there is no confirmation that there are any.
by Neil Ungerleider/Staff 4/15/2013 7:46:36 PM
Newton fire department reports remainder of marathon canceled
by Neil Ungerleider/Staff 4/15/2013 7:45:18 PM
Neither race officials nor public officials could immediately estimate the number or degree of injuries.
by Neil Ungerleider/Staff 4/15/2013 7:44:40 PM
"There are a lot of people down," said one man, whose bib No. 17528 identified him as Frank Deruyter of North Carolina. He was not injured, but marathon workers were carrying one woman, who did not appear to be a runner, to the medical area as blood gushed from her leg. A Boston police officer was wheeled from the course with a leg injury that was bleeding.
by Neil Ungerleider/Staff 4/15/2013 7:44:31 PM
Two explosions shattered the finish of the Boston Marathon on Monday, sending authorities out on the course to carry away the injured while stragglers in the 26.2-mile race were rerouted away from the smoking site.
Competitors and race volunteers were crying as they fled the chaos. Bloody spectators were being carried to the medical tent that had been set up to care for fatigued runners.
by Neil Ungerleider/Staff 4/15/2013 7:44:16 PM
Officials tell Channel 5 some injuries are very severe.
by Susan Griffin WCVB TV 4/15/2013 7:43:30 PM
Read more: http://livewire.wcvb.com/Event/117th_Running_of_Boston_Marathon#ixzz2QYyzXFbX
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 19:48:05
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 19:48:05
Shite just go personal! My co-worker Aaron has a friend running today
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 19:49:07
Raine on 04/15/2013 19:49:07
Newtown parents were in the VIP section when the explosion occurred.
Comment by wickedpam on 04/15/2013 19:49:49
Do we know if these were actually set explosions at this point?
wickedpam on 04/15/2013 19:49:49
Quote by TriSec:
First explosion occurred near the Boston Public Library
by Neil Ungerleider/Staff 4/15/2013 7:47:02 PM
Police are looking for secondary explosive devices, though there is no confirmation that there are any.
by Neil Ungerleider/Staff 4/15/2013 7:46:36 PM
Newton fire department reports remainder of marathon canceled
by Neil Ungerleider/Staff 4/15/2013 7:45:18 PM
Neither race officials nor public officials could immediately estimate the number or degree of injuries.
by Neil Ungerleider/Staff 4/15/2013 7:44:40 PM
"There are a lot of people down," said one man, whose bib No. 17528 identified him as Frank Deruyter of North Carolina. He was not injured, but marathon workers were carrying one woman, who did not appear to be a runner, to the medical area as blood gushed from her leg. A Boston police officer was wheeled from the course with a leg injury that was bleeding.
by Neil Ungerleider/Staff 4/15/2013 7:44:31 PM
Two explosions shattered the finish of the Boston Marathon on Monday, sending authorities out on the course to carry away the injured while stragglers in the 26.2-mile race were rerouted away from the smoking site.
Competitors and race volunteers were crying as they fled the chaos. Bloody spectators were being carried to the medical tent that had been set up to care for fatigued runners.
by Neil Ungerleider/Staff 4/15/2013 7:44:16 PM
Officials tell Channel 5 some injuries are very severe.
by Susan Griffin WCVB TV 4/15/2013 7:43:30 PM
Read more: http://livewire.wcvb.com/Event/117th_Running_of_Boston_Marathon#ixzz2QYyzXFbX
Do we know if these were actually set explosions at this point?
Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 19:52:56
TriSec on 04/15/2013 19:52:56
This is my local - I know a lot of people out there today. (Volunteers, runners, and otherwise.)
Fuck.
Fuck.
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 19:53:15
No.
I don;t personally believe this was a sewer type explosion. I would like to be proven wrong.
I'm not willing to call it a bomb.
Raine on 04/15/2013 19:53:15
Quote by wickedpam:
Do we know if these were actually set explosions at this point?
I don;t personally believe this was a sewer type explosion. I would like to be proven wrong.
I'm not willing to call it a bomb.
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 19:54:11
Raine on 04/15/2013 19:54:11
Quote by TriSec:
This is my local - I know a lot of people out there today. (Volunteers, runners, and otherwise.)
Fuck.
Comment by wickedpam on 04/15/2013 19:55:26
if their sewer explosions are like ours they would go up not out I think - any chance it was a gas line accident?
wickedpam on 04/15/2013 19:55:26
Quote by Raine:No.Quote by wickedpam:
Do we know if these were actually set explosions at this point?
I don;t personally believe this was a sewer type explosion. I would like to be proven wrong.
I'm not willing to call it a bomb.
if their sewer explosions are like ours they would go up not out I think - any chance it was a gas line accident?
Comment by wickedpam on 04/15/2013 19:55:51
wickedpam on 04/15/2013 19:55:51
Quote by Raine:Quote by TriSec:
This is my local - I know a lot of people out there today. (Volunteers, runners, and otherwise.)
Fuck.
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 19:56:37
Raine on 04/15/2013 19:56:37
What the what? CBS is reporting a fire at the JFK library just a few moments after the explosions -- saying they may not be connected.
I hope it's just a coincidence.
That all this is happening today in Mass.
NBC reporting there is a 3rd-- possibly controlled explosion -- (please know MSNBC has turned over programming to local boston NBC)
I hope it's just a coincidence.
That all this is happening today in Mass.
NBC reporting there is a 3rd-- possibly controlled explosion -- (please know MSNBC has turned over programming to local boston NBC)
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 19:58:16
Tri might be able to answer this better, but I've been watching, and it seems as tho these explosions happened over the Greet line on the T.
That line is closed now.
Raine on 04/15/2013 19:58:16
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:No.Quote by wickedpam:
Do we know if these were actually set explosions at this point?
I don;t personally believe this was a sewer type explosion. I would like to be proven wrong.
I'm not willing to call it a bomb.
if their sewer explosions are like ours they would go up not out I think - any chance it was a gas line accident?
That line is closed now.
Comment by TriSec on 04/15/2013 19:58:32
TriSec on 04/15/2013 19:58:32
I gotta go - I have CPR class tonight.
Rrrgh!
Rrrgh!
Comment by 
clintster on 04/15/2013 20:05:35
clintster on 04/15/2013 20:05:35
I'm not trying to speculate. I really am not. However, I have very strong suspicions of the origin of these explosions, and it's not necessarily who or what might first be speculated.
Prayers aloft for the victims.
Prayers aloft for the victims.
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 20:06:52
Raine on 04/15/2013 20:06:52
First responders have been called to other locations -- 3 additional locations have been found according to JJ greene at WTOP.
NYP is reporting that Feds are saying 12 dead,at least 22 injured.
DC, NYC are now on high alert.
NYP is reporting that Feds are saying 12 dead,at least 22 injured.
DC, NYC are now on high alert.
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 20:07:42
Raine on 04/15/2013 20:07:42
JJ greene (wtop) is calling them IED's.
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 20:08:13
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 20:08:13
Aaron's friend is okay phew. Now we can focus on figuring out what the fuck's going on.
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 20:08:21
Raine on 04/15/2013 20:08:21
Boston Police have confirmed 2 dead, 22 injured.
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 20:09:51
Thank goodness.
A friend from High School is trying to find her friends -- they were getting ready to cross the line about 3 pm.
Raine on 04/15/2013 20:09:51
Quote by Mondobubba:
Aaron's friend is okay phew. Now we can focus on figuring out what the fuck's going on.
A friend from High School is trying to find her friends -- they were getting ready to cross the line about 3 pm.
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 20:12:55
Raine on 04/15/2013 20:12:55
From my friend:
Please pray for the runners and spectators at Boston Marathon. Still waiting to hear about two friends/husband and wife who should have been at finish when explosion occurred. If anyone from KRC has heard from Chris and Julie, please let me know.
Comment by Scoopster on 04/15/2013 20:13:01
That seems to be confirmed now by the BPD.
Scoopster on 04/15/2013 20:13:01
Quote by Raine:
JJ greene (wtop) is calling them IED's.
That seems to be confirmed now by the BPD.
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 20:22:54
Raine on 04/15/2013 20:22:54
@AP BREAKING: Intelligence official: 2 more explosive devices found at Boston Marathon; being dismantled
Comment by BobR on 04/15/2013 20:23:15
Is this what you're thinking about?
BobR on 04/15/2013 20:23:15
Quote by clintster:
I'm not trying to speculate. I really am not. However, I have very strong suspicions of the origin of these explosions, and it's not necessarily who or what might first be speculated.
Prayers aloft for the victims.
Is this what you're thinking about?
Comment by wickedpam on 04/15/2013 20:24:57
that's what I'm thinking but I don't want to jump to any conclusions
wickedpam on 04/15/2013 20:24:57
Quote by BobR:Quote by clintster:
I'm not trying to speculate. I really am not. However, I have very strong suspicions of the origin of these explosions, and it's not necessarily who or what might first be speculated.
Prayers aloft for the victims.
Is this what you're thinking about?
that's what I'm thinking but I don't want to jump to any conclusions
Comment by BobR on 04/15/2013 20:26:10
BobR on 04/15/2013 20:26:10
Today is also Tax day... Tea Party Patriots... Patriot's Day... hmmm...
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 20:31:01
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 20:31:01
Here is a taste comment from the WaPo coverage:
HarvardProfessor
4:04 PM EDT
If Muslims did the attack--as is the most probably case--the libs will do at any length to hide that fact. They will say, "1 billion muslims are good" etc.
But if one deranged man kills kids, the libs paint all White men as Satan.
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 20:32:15
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 20:32:15
Quote by BobR:
Today is also Tax day... Tea Party Patriots... Patriot's Day... hmmm...
Comment by livingonli on 04/15/2013 20:33:39
livingonli on 04/15/2013 20:33:39
I go outside and run errands and everything has gone to shit.
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 20:35:17
keerist.
Raine on 04/15/2013 20:35:17
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by BobR:Quote by clintster:
I'm not trying to speculate. I really am not. However, I have very strong suspicions of the origin of these explosions, and it's not necessarily who or what might first be speculated.
Prayers aloft for the victims.
Is this what you're thinking about?
that's what I'm thinking but I don't want to jump to any conclusions
Comment by trojanrabbit on 04/15/2013 20:36:12
Only Federal, not State, that's tomorrow.
trojanrabbit on 04/15/2013 20:36:12
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by BobR:
Today is also Tax day... Tea Party Patriots... Patriot's Day... hmmm...
Only Federal, not State, that's tomorrow.
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 20:39:16
Clint, Bobber, get out of my head!
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 20:39:16
Quote by Raine:keerist.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by BobR:Quote by clintster:
I'm not trying to speculate. I really am not. However, I have very strong suspicions of the origin of these explosions, and it's not necessarily who or what might first be speculated.
Prayers aloft for the victims.
Is this what you're thinking about?
that's what I'm thinking but I don't want to jump to any conclusions
Clint, Bobber, get out of my head!
Comment by Raine on 04/15/2013 20:49:16
Raine on 04/15/2013 20:49:16
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. WTOP is reporting that there was an explosion at the JFK library.
That is a quote. I hope that they are fucking this up and confusing it with the earlier fire at the library.
That is a quote. I hope that they are fucking this up and confusing it with the earlier fire at the library.
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 20:56:51
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 20:56:51
Comment by Will in Chicago on 04/15/2013 21:09:59
WCVB in Boston, in its live thread, is reporting the same.
Will in Chicago on 04/15/2013 21:09:59
Quote by Mondobubba:
WaPo reporting that the JFK library was bombed.
WCVB in Boston, in its live thread, is reporting the same.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 04/15/2013 21:10:25
Will in Chicago on 04/15/2013 21:10:25
I just checked on the friend who showed me around Boston last year. She is well.
Comment by BobR on 04/15/2013 21:19:12
Considering the source, I will hold out for confirmation in other media.
BobR on 04/15/2013 21:19:12
Quote by Mondobubba:
Uncomfirmed by other media, NYP says suspect has been identified.
Considering the source, I will hold out for confirmation in other media.
Comment by BobR on 04/15/2013 21:20:23
BobR on 04/15/2013 21:20:23
Heading out for a meeting. We'll be keeping our ear on the radio and on the TV screen at the restaurant.
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 21:28:59
Yeah that is pretty much what WaPo said.
Mondobubba on 04/15/2013 21:28:59
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
Uncomfirmed by other media, NYP says suspect has been identified.
Considering the source, I will hold out for confirmation in other media.
Yeah that is pretty much what WaPo said.
Comment by clintster on 04/15/2013 21:46:39
I heard the NYP report relayed on WSB radio in Atlanta. The newscaster prefaced it with "Make of this what you will...", which considering the station is the Atlanta home of Rush, Hannity and (until recently) Boortz is saying something.
clintster on 04/15/2013 21:46:39
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
Uncomfirmed by other media, NYP says suspect has been identified.
Considering the source, I will hold out for confirmation in other media.
Yeah that is pretty much what WaPo said.
I heard the NYP report relayed on WSB radio in Atlanta. The newscaster prefaced it with "Make of this what you will...", which considering the station is the Atlanta home of Rush, Hannity and (until recently) Boortz is saying something.
Comment by livingonli on 04/15/2013 22:14:44
livingonli on 04/15/2013 22:14:44
Apparently, Alex Jones is already saying that it's going to be blamed on the Tea Party. I wonder what his tinfoil hat knows.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 04/15/2013 22:34:18
Howie Carr can go fuck himself. While one side of his yap is calling out CNN for blaming the tea party, the other side of his mouth is trumpeting the SAUDI NATIONALIST being held in the hospital according to NYP and Drudge.
I wish the media would SHUT THE FUCK UP. STOP SPECULATING. DIAF.
trojanrabbit on 04/15/2013 22:34:18
Quote by Mondobubba:
Uncomfirmed by other media, NYP says suspect has been identified.
Howie Carr can go fuck himself. While one side of his yap is calling out CNN for blaming the tea party, the other side of his mouth is trumpeting the SAUDI NATIONALIST being held in the hospital according to NYP and Drudge.
I wish the media would SHUT THE FUCK UP. STOP SPECULATING. DIAF.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 04/15/2013 22:51:55
I think that it is best not to speculate. I was a responsible print reporter, who believed in reporting the facts not speculation.
Will in Chicago on 04/15/2013 22:51:55
Quote by trojanrabbit:Quote by Mondobubba:
Uncomfirmed by other media, NYP says suspect has been identified.
Howie Carr can go fuck himself. While one side of his yap is calling out CNN for blaming the tea party, the other side of his mouth is trumpeting the SAUDI NATIONALIST being held in the hospital according to NYP and Drudge.
I wish the media would SHUT THE FUCK UP. STOP SPECULATING. DIAF.
I think that it is best not to speculate. I was a responsible print reporter, who believed in reporting the facts not speculation.
Comment by livingonli on 04/15/2013 22:56:27
The New York Post has as much a grasp on facts as any other Murdoch organization which would be none.
livingonli on 04/15/2013 22:56:27
Quote by Will in Chicago:Quote by trojanrabbit:Quote by Mondobubba:
Uncomfirmed by other media, NYP says suspect has been identified.
Howie Carr can go fuck himself. While one side of his yap is calling out CNN for blaming the tea party, the other side of his mouth is trumpeting the SAUDI NATIONALIST being held in the hospital according to NYP and Drudge.
I wish the media would SHUT THE FUCK UP. STOP SPECULATING. DIAF.
I think that it is best not to speculate. I was a responsible print reporter, who believed in reporting the facts not speculation.
The New York Post has as much a grasp on facts as any other Murdoch organization which would be none.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 04/15/2013 23:03:22
trojanrabbit on 04/15/2013 23:03:22
Bruins game postponed. Boston Symphony cancelled.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 04/15/2013 23:07:57
Understandable. Although I only spent a few days in and around Boston last year, I truly enjoyed being there. My heart goes out to all my friends there and everyone in Massachusetts.
Will in Chicago on 04/15/2013 23:07:57
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Bruins game postponed. Boston Symphony cancelled.
Understandable. Although I only spent a few days in and around Boston last year, I truly enjoyed being there. My heart goes out to all my friends there and everyone in Massachusetts.
Comment by TriSec on 04/16/2013 01:11:17
TriSec on 04/16/2013 01:11:17
Home. Now to figure out what the hell is going on around here.
Comment by Raine on 04/16/2013 01:16:35
We got home a little while ago as well. Still listening to local reports and national reports. There is a lot of conflicting information.
Raine on 04/16/2013 01:16:35
Quote by TriSec:
Home. Now to figure out what the hell is going on around here.
Comment by Raine on 04/16/2013 01:18:32
WE were driving home--- local law enforcement said NO suspect and CBS is still reporting this bs -- as I said:
lot's of conflicting stuff.
Raine on 04/16/2013 01:18:32
Quote by Mondobubba:
Uncomfirmed by other media, NYP says suspect has been identified.
lot's of conflicting stuff.
Comment by TriSec on 04/16/2013 01:28:28
TriSec on 04/16/2013 01:28:28
I've got NECN on in the background. There is a "person of interest", and a Saudi National at that, that is being questioned at BWH.
That is all - nothing else yet.
That is all - nothing else yet.
Comment by Raine on 04/16/2013 01:44:12
interesting.
Raine on 04/16/2013 01:44:12
Quote by TriSec:
I've got NECN on in the background. There is a "person of interest", and a Saudi National at that, that is being questioned at BWH.
That is all - nothing else yet.
Comment by livingonli on 04/16/2013 02:33:33
livingonli on 04/16/2013 02:33:33
At least on DirecTV I can check the local element though Comcast New England which is supposed to be in SportsNet Central but it looks like they are simulcasting NECN for the duration.
Comment by livingonli on 04/16/2013 02:37:04
livingonli on 04/16/2013 02:37:04
Tomorrow's Celtics-Pacers game has been cancelled as well.