The NBC News investigations unit is reporting that “50 to 75 percent of the 14 million consumers who buy their insurance individually can expect to receive a ‘cancellation’ letter or the equivalent over the next year because their existing policies don’t meet the standards mandated by the new health care law” — a fact administration officials knew but kept from the public.
The cancellations are a result of so-called grandfather rules promulgated by President Obama’s Health and Human Services. The rule exempts health insurance plans in existence before March 23, 2010 — the day the Affordable Care Act became law — from many of the new regulations, benefits standards and consumer protections that new plans now have to abide by, but says that policies could lose their designation if they make major changes.
The goal of grandfather regulations is to allow a consumer to keep their existing policies, while also ensuring that there are some basic patient protections built into these plans. If insurers make changes that significantly burden enrollees with lower benefits and increased costs they have to come into compliance with all consumer protections. Therefore, policies lose their grandfathered status if insurers cancel coverage when a person becomes ill, impose lifetime limits on benefits, eliminate all benefits for a particular condition and reduce the cap for covered services each year, among other changes. (In fact, in November of 2010, the federal government loosened some of these standards.)
So yes, individuals can keep the plans they have if those plans remain largely the same.
That includes 56-year-old Dianne Barrette. Last month, she received a letter from Blue Cross Blue Shield informing her as of January 2014, she would lose her current plan. Barrette pays $54 a month. The new plan she's being offered would run $591 a month -- 10 times more than what she currently pays.
Barrette said, "What I have right now is what I am happy with and I just want to know why I can't keep what I have. Why do I have to be forced into something else?"
According to HealthCare.gov, Barrette is eligible for some subsidies, CBS News' Jan Crawford pointed out on "CBS This Morning." But Barrette told CBS News she has no idea what those subsidies would be because she cannot log on to the website -- an issue U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius is sure to be asked about when she testifies on Capitol Hill Wednesday.
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Mornin' all..
Was up late last night making a big ol' pot of soup. Turned out pretty damn good too!
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Mornin' all..
Was up late last night making a big ol' pot of soup. Turned out pretty damn good too!
What kind of soup?
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More media trolling...
ditto
billionaire entrepreneur Ken Langone told CNBC on Wednesday.
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WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME THIS
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WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME THIS
I didn't know the part about Elmo learning about masturbation either. I bet he has a whole dance & song routine just for jerking off, and I would find that EXTREMELY entertaining.
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WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME THIS
I didn't know the part about Elmo learning about masturbation either. I bet he has a whole dance & song routine just for jerking off, and I would find that EXTREMELY entertaining.
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So this morning sucked - car decided it was going to throw a temper tantrum and throw a flashing check engine like at me just as I was toward my usual garage. Pulled in, dropped off the car, had to get a rental car, was late to work, garage called its going to be 1699.99 to get a tune up, new plugs, wires and coil, AND a new timing belt and water pump.
Suppose I should be thank for I was right by the garage didn't break down on the way to work. I swear this is going to be the last big expense for this car - cross your fingers that 2014 is the year of a new car.
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More media trolling...
ditto
This is a criticism of what the media has been trolling us with.
It’s only the remainder — and it’s likely to be a small remainder — that genuinely will have no choice but to either pay more money (in some cases significantly more) or pay a fine and go without coverage.
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Just had a very depressing chat with Anne's therapist. Just about every test they've given suggests there were things going on even before the stroke. She showed no ability to do simple tasks even when instructions are given. That's going to make recovery much more difficult even if it's possible.
On the brighter side, in my hourly phone call, when I told her that I would see her at 4:30 she eventually said "so it's 10:30 now so that's what.....4...5...6 hours?" she eventually got it right. That's the first time that's happened.
My chest feels really tight......
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So this morning sucked - car decided it was going to throw a temper tantrum and throw a flashing check engine like at me just as I was toward my usual garage. Pulled in, dropped off the car, had to get a rental car, was late to work, garage called its going to be 1699.99 to get a tune up, new plugs, wires and coil, AND a new timing belt and water pump.
Suppose I should be thank for I was right by the garage didn't break down on the way to work. I swear this is going to be the last big expense for this car - cross your fingers that 2014 is the year of a new car.
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Just had a very depressing chat with Anne's therapist. Just about every test they've given suggests there were things going on even before the stroke. She showed no ability to do simple tasks even when instructions are given. That's going to make recovery much more difficult even if it's possible.
On the brighter side, in my hourly phone call, when I told her that I would see her at 4:30 she eventually said "so it's 10:30 now so that's what.....4...5...6 hours?" she eventually got it right. That's the first time that's happened.
My chest feels really tight......
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*check engine* light goes on.
TriSec pulls over, obediently lifts hood.
"OK, it's still there. Now what?"
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So this morning sucked - car decided it was going to throw a temper tantrum and throw a flashing check engine like at me just as I was toward my usual garage. Pulled in, dropped off the car, had to get a rental car, was late to work, garage called its going to be 1699.99 to get a tune up, new plugs, wires and coil, AND a new timing belt and water pump.
Suppose I should be thank for I was right by the garage didn't break down on the way to work. I swear this is going to be the last big expense for this car - cross your fingers that 2014 is the year of a new car.
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Just had a very depressing chat with Anne's therapist. Just about every test they've given suggests there were things going on even before the stroke. She showed no ability to do simple tasks even when instructions are given. That's going to make recovery much more difficult even if it's possible.
On the brighter side, in my hourly phone call, when I told her that I would see her at 4:30 she eventually said "so it's 10:30 now so that's what.....4...5...6 hours?" she eventually got it right. That's the first time that's happened.
My chest feels really tight......
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So this morning sucked - car decided it was going to throw a temper tantrum and throw a flashing check engine like at me just as I was toward my usual garage. Pulled in, dropped off the car, had to get a rental car, was late to work, garage called its going to be 1699.99 to get a tune up, new plugs, wires and coil, AND a new timing belt and water pump.
Suppose I should be thank for I was right by the garage didn't break down on the way to work. I swear this is going to be the last big expense for this car - cross your fingers that 2014 is the year of a new car.
Usually the "check engine" light means to check the oxygen sensor - the replacement of which should be relatively cheap. All that other stuff seems suspicious. I'd get a second opinion.
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So this morning sucked - car decided it was going to throw a temper tantrum and throw a flashing check engine like at me just as I was toward my usual garage. Pulled in, dropped off the car, had to get a rental car, was late to work, garage called its going to be 1699.99 to get a tune up, new plugs, wires and coil, AND a new timing belt and water pump.
Suppose I should be thank for I was right by the garage didn't break down on the way to work. I swear this is going to be the last big expense for this car - cross your fingers that 2014 is the year of a new car.
Usually the "check engine" light means to check the oxygen sensor - the replacement of which should be relatively cheap. All that other stuff seems suspicious. I'd get a second opinion.
oh, no, on my car if could be any range of things beside the O2 sensor. Plus it was idling weird at first this morning. The car as 196K miles on it and the plugs and stuff are all original to the car. Always forget about the tune up thing - but I always get the oil changed
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So this morning sucked - car decided it was going to throw a temper tantrum and throw a flashing check engine like at me just as I was toward my usual garage. Pulled in, dropped off the car, had to get a rental car, was late to work, garage called its going to be 1699.99 to get a tune up, new plugs, wires and coil, AND a new timing belt and water pump.
Suppose I should be thank for I was right by the garage didn't break down on the way to work. I swear this is going to be the last big expense for this car - cross your fingers that 2014 is the year of a new car.
Usually the "check engine" light means to check the oxygen sensor - the replacement of which should be relatively cheap. All that other stuff seems suspicious. I'd get a second opinion.
oh, no, on my car if could be any range of things beside the O2 sensor. Plus it was idling weird at first this morning. The car as 196K miles on it and the plugs and stuff are all original to the car. Always forget about the tune up thing - but I always get the oil changed
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So this morning sucked - car decided it was going to throw a temper tantrum and throw a flashing check engine like at me just as I was toward my usual garage. Pulled in, dropped off the car, had to get a rental car, was late to work, garage called its going to be 1699.99 to get a tune up, new plugs, wires and coil, AND a new timing belt and water pump.
Suppose I should be thank for I was right by the garage didn't break down on the way to work. I swear this is going to be the last big expense for this car - cross your fingers that 2014 is the year of a new car.
Usually the "check engine" light means to check the oxygen sensor - the replacement of which should be relatively cheap. All that other stuff seems suspicious. I'd get a second opinion.
oh, no, on my car if could be any range of things beside the O2 sensor. Plus it was idling weird at first this morning. The car as 196K miles on it and the plugs and stuff are all original to the car. Always forget about the tune up thing - but I always get the oil changed
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So this morning sucked - car decided it was going to throw a temper tantrum and throw a flashing check engine like at me just as I was toward my usual garage. Pulled in, dropped off the car, had to get a rental car, was late to work, garage called its going to be 1699.99 to get a tune up, new plugs, wires and coil, AND a new timing belt and water pump.
Suppose I should be thank for I was right by the garage didn't break down on the way to work. I swear this is going to be the last big expense for this car - cross your fingers that 2014 is the year of a new car.
Usually the "check engine" light means to check the oxygen sensor - the replacement of which should be relatively cheap. All that other stuff seems suspicious. I'd get a second opinion.
oh, no, on my car if could be any range of things beside the O2 sensor. Plus it was idling weird at first this morning. The car as 196K miles on it and the plugs and stuff are all original to the car. Always forget about the tune up thing - but I always get the oil changed
There is no way the timing belt or water pump caused the check engine light to come on. The pump may be leaking a little, and the belt may be old, but if you're going to be replacing the car next year, I don't see the rationale for replacing them now.
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And they REALLY quoted you 1699.99??
REALLY? not about 16500- 1700?
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So this morning sucked - car decided it was going to throw a temper tantrum and throw a flashing check engine like at me just as I was toward my usual garage. Pulled in, dropped off the car, had to get a rental car, was late to work, garage called its going to be 1699.99 to get a tune up, new plugs, wires and coil, AND a new timing belt and water pump.
Suppose I should be thank for I was right by the garage didn't break down on the way to work. I swear this is going to be the last big expense for this car - cross your fingers that 2014 is the year of a new car.
Usually the "check engine" light means to check the oxygen sensor - the replacement of which should be relatively cheap. All that other stuff seems suspicious. I'd get a second opinion.
oh, no, on my car if could be any range of things beside the O2 sensor. Plus it was idling weird at first this morning. The car as 196K miles on it and the plugs and stuff are all original to the car. Always forget about the tune up thing - but I always get the oil changed
The timing belt is something you can put off for now. (They always say a new timing belt or chain -- always) and as far as the water pump -- that's not a check engine thing -- that would have been a temp issue.
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The plugs may very well need changing -- it's getting cold --
I recall once I started my car and the entire engine was shaking -- I was a little freaked out. Turns out the plugs just needed an adjustment. They were mis installed.
Just be wary MAla -- 1700 dollars is a lot of money for that car. A LOT OF MONEY. I know you love her -- but be aware.
Ask the mechanic what is absolutely needed. keep it vbare bones and get another quote over the weekend.
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So this morning sucked - car decided it was going to throw a temper tantrum and throw a flashing check engine like at me just as I was toward my usual garage. Pulled in, dropped off the car, had to get a rental car, was late to work, garage called its going to be 1699.99 to get a tune up, new plugs, wires and coil, AND a new timing belt and water pump.
Suppose I should be thank for I was right by the garage didn't break down on the way to work. I swear this is going to be the last big expense for this car - cross your fingers that 2014 is the year of a new car.
Usually the "check engine" light means to check the oxygen sensor - the replacement of which should be relatively cheap. All that other stuff seems suspicious. I'd get a second opinion.
oh, no, on my car if could be any range of things beside the O2 sensor. Plus it was idling weird at first this morning. The car as 196K miles on it and the plugs and stuff are all original to the car. Always forget about the tune up thing - but I always get the oil changed
The timing belt is something you can put off for now. (They always say a new timing belt or chain -- always) and as far as the water pump -- that's not a check engine thing -- that would have been a temp issue.
It is actually a good garage - they have yet to try to pull the wool over my eyes. They used to work on my Nova too (that car had issues) so they know I would know if they're trying something.
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So this morning sucked - car decided it was going to throw a temper tantrum and throw a flashing check engine like at me just as I was toward my usual garage. Pulled in, dropped off the car, had to get a rental car, was late to work, garage called its going to be 1699.99 to get a tune up, new plugs, wires and coil, AND a new timing belt and water pump.
Suppose I should be thank for I was right by the garage didn't break down on the way to work. I swear this is going to be the last big expense for this car - cross your fingers that 2014 is the year of a new car.
Usually the "check engine" light means to check the oxygen sensor - the replacement of which should be relatively cheap. All that other stuff seems suspicious. I'd get a second opinion.
oh, no, on my car if could be any range of things beside the O2 sensor. Plus it was idling weird at first this morning. The car as 196K miles on it and the plugs and stuff are all original to the car. Always forget about the tune up thing - but I always get the oil changed
The timing belt is something you can put off for now. (They always say a new timing belt or chain -- always) and as far as the water pump -- that's not a check engine thing -- that would have been a temp issue.
It is actually a good garage - they have yet to try to pull the wool over my eyes. They used to work on my Nova too (that car had issues) so they know I would know if they're trying something.
Given the age and mileage of the car, replacing the water pump means removing just about the same stuff as the timing belt, so many times it's done at the same time as insurance.
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Even a bad gas cap can cause a "Check Engine" light.
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The "rate shock" meme is such transparent bullshit. Most of those being "hit with giant rate increases" fail to mention what the subsidy they will be getting. So, their "horror story about Obamacare" is bs.
Quote by Raine:Why OH WHY can't I keep my shitty pinto!?!?!Quote by Mondobubba:
The "rate shock" meme is such transparent bullshit. Most of those being "hit with giant rate increases" fail to mention what the subsidy they will be getting. So, their "horror story about Obamacare" is bs.
(sorry Mala -- i know you are having car problems... )
Reporters like Jan Crawford need to sit down. They also need to be called out. EVERY. TIME.
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I have a secret hope that once Banksy is done with NYC he comes to DC.
On Sunday, the crowd caused a man, who had an infant strapped to his chest and was pushing a toddler in a stroller, to stop short.
“Is that supposed to be the Banksy thing?†he asked. “Man, that’s horrible. God, the hype.â€
He refused to give his name, and would reveal only that he spent his childhood downtown.
“I grew up with real graffiti artists,†he huffed as he strode away, stroller in front of him, his baby’s legs bobbing.
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Actually, I'd pay money to see some TV Personalities burst into flames if you hit them in the rear.
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I have a secret hope that once Banksy is done with NYC he comes to DC.
that would be kind of awesome!
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Actually, I'd pay money to see some TV Personalities burst into flames if you hit them in the rear.
I have at least one politician I'd like to see spontaneously combust, the heck with hitting him in the rear.
Quote by Raine:Why OH WHY can't I keep my shitty pinto!?!?!Quote by Mondobubba:
The "rate shock" meme is such transparent bullshit. Most of those being "hit with giant rate increases" fail to mention what the subsidy they will be getting. So, their "horror story about Obamacare" is bs.
(sorry Mala -- i know you are having car problems... )
Reporters like Jan Crawford need to sit down. They also need to be called out. EVERY. TIME.
Quote by Raine:Ok -- that headline nearly made me punch me computer screen.Quote by trojanrabbit:Quote by TriSec:
Actually, I'd pay money to see some TV Personalities burst into flames if you hit them in the rear.
I have at least one politician I'd like to see spontaneously combust, the heck with hitting him in the rear.
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Oh noes I have coverage for things I'll never use like pre-natal care! Obamacare is a failure!
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Oh noes I have coverage for things I'll never use like pre-natal care! Obamacare is a failure!
I don;t remember being pissed that I paid SCHOOL TAXES when I owned a house.
You know why?
I'm a phocking liberal that's why. I believe in investing in the greater good. WE were paying for prenatal care all along. what part of spreading the risk do people NOT GET?!?!?
I'm never going to need prostate cancer screenings either. oops.
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Every day there are at least 10,000 stories -- anecdotes -- that can be told on many subjects, from the ACA to dog rescues to schools banning books. Choosing which stories to run is the editorial function. But it's easy for a media org. to cherry pick only the ones that fit its editorial bias. Fox & Murdoch outlets do that, and sadly, so do other MSM outlets. We're seeing it with the ACA, where in Kentucky alone there are over 26,000 success stories that can be told but are hardly getting out.
We need to make sure we call out this media bias as you did here, and also share ACA success stories over blogs, social networks, etc. At MessagingMatters.com, we call it "Winning the Affordable Care Act anecdote war": http://messagingmatters.com/2013/10/22/winning-the-affordable-care-act-anecdote-war/
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Every day there are at least 10,000 stories -- anecdotes -- that can be told on many subjects, from the ACA to dog rescues to schools banning books. Choosing which stories to run is the editorial function. But it's easy for a media org. to cherry pick only the ones that fit its editorial bias. Fox & Murdoch outlets do that, and sadly, so do other MSM outlets. We're seeing it with the ACA, where in Kentucky alone there are over 26,000 success stories that can be told but are hardly getting out.
We need to make sure we call out this media bias as you did here, and also share ACA success stories over blogs, social networks, etc. At MessagingMatters.com, we call it "Winning the Affordable Care Act anecdote war": http://messagingmatters.com/2013/10/22/winning-the-affordable-care-act-anecdote-war/
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Oh man -- he's brought in Cruz, Paul, Ryan, Santorum and now....
Piyush Jindal. Arguably the most unpopular governor in the USA.
I cannot wait to cast a vote on election day.
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Oh man -- he's brought in Cruz, Paul, Ryan, Santorum and now....
Piyush Jindal. Arguably the most unpopular governor in the USA.
I cannot wait to cast a vote on election day.
Bobby Jindal more unpopular that Rick Scott? I think not.
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But where does Scott Walker stand so that hopefully he gets the boot in 2014.
Quote by Raine:Did you check the link at the link?Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
Oh man -- he's brought in Cruz, Paul, Ryan, Santorum and now....
Piyush Jindal. Arguably the most unpopular governor in the USA.
I cannot wait to cast a vote on election day.
Bobby Jindal more unpopular that Rick Scott? I think not.
Rick Scott is no one.
Im sure Cooch will ask him for help in the last few days.
Quote by Raine:I kinda get the feeling we might see a return of Crist.Quote by livingonli:
But where does Scott Walker stand so that hopefully he gets the boot in 2014.
Quote by Raine:I kinda get the feeling we might see a return of Crist.Quote by livingonli:
But where does Scott Walker stand so that hopefully he gets the boot in 2014.
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:I kinda get the feeling we might see a return of Crist.Quote by livingonli:
But where does Scott Walker stand so that hopefully he gets the boot in 2014.
Scott Walker is Wisconsin. Remember the failed recall effort.
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But where does Scott Walker stand so that hopefully he gets the boot in 2014.
Alix Sink is running for Congress next year. Currently Charlie Crist has a 12-point lead over Scott and he hasn't even officially announced.
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I stand corrected! Well I'll be Kenneth the Page Jindal is less popular than Rick Scott.
Scott: approval rating : 33
Jindal: 28
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I stand corrected! Well I'll be Kenneth the Page Jindal is less popular than Rick Scott.
Scott: approval rating : 33
Jindal: 28
::: Passes Mondo a stella artois :::
Suggests a home brew. and asks: is there anything you would like on tap when you visit? Just give the request about a month or 2 in advance.
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I stand corrected! Well I'll be Kenneth the Page Jindal is less popular than Rick Scott.
Scott: approval rating : 33
Jindal: 28
::: Passes Mondo a stella artois :::
Suggests a home brew. and asks: is there anything you would like on tap when you visit? Just give the request about a month or 2 in advance.
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I stand corrected! Well I'll be Kenneth the Page Jindal is less popular than Rick Scott.
Scott: approval rating : 33
Jindal: 28
::: Passes Mondo a stella artois :::
Suggests a home brew. and asks: is there anything you would like on tap when you visit? Just give the request about a month or 2 in advance.
Stella? The Budwiser of Belgium?
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Well now.. former SecDef Robert Gates is gonna be leading the Boy Scouts.
Tri, your thoughts?