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Author: m-hadley    Date: 05/23/2008 13:04:39

Shillary Claims Sexism is the Reason for Her Campaign Failure...

First, I must thank Raine for pointing us to numerous clips of the now onerous Geraldine Ferraro - who I must confess was once a hero of mine - she is the reason I voted for the Mondale ticket, but now I have become so disgusted with her that I can't watch and/or listen to her rant about how sexist this campaign has become or always has been. Has it occurred to any of these feminists that it may not be Hillary's gender that sunk her campaign, rather it was the way that she ran her campaign (listening to Mark Penn, having no plan for the race after Super Tuesday, having her husband on the stump making race an issue when he should have known better, etc...)

Next I would like to direct your attention to a comment posted at Slate by Dahlia Lithwick (forgive me for replaying a comment from yesterday's blog - but this entire post is a bunt ):
Sorry for the long comment, folks, but this was sent to me by a long-time friend who is one of the strongest feminists I have ever known (and who BTB is an Obama supporter), It is from yesterday's Slate, written by Dahlia Lithwick and I think it is right on. I have felt for some time now that we are heading toward a potentially tragic ending in this primary race and the one who could prevent this tragedy is the one who is bringing it about (I am, of course, referring to Hillary) . Your thoughts and comments on the following are, as always, appreciated.

I don’t think anyone disputes that hideous instances of sexism have been stirred up in this campaign. Nor does anyone dispute that Ms. Clinton is entitled to address it, which she has done very deftly at times. The question is whether she’s entitled to reduce her entire failed campaign to sexism—which has the practical effect of splitting women into those-who-are-angry-about-sexism, and those who what? Think it’s acceptable? There’s one other practical effect that warrants mentioning, and that is that it reduces a complex, brilliant, and talented candidate to a big whomping cliché. My friend Susannah writes: “I find it increasingly unbearable to watch Hillary. It feels like she has become the archetype I find most painful to see in women—a high-maintenance, delusional, and "difficult" woman who feels entitled to do whatever she likes. ... Meanwhile, Obama is forced to tiptoe around essentially just humoring her. There is a pathetic "Yes, dear" quality to the way he is forced to react to her these days.”

This mirrors a sense I’ve had that we might have finally crossed the Hirshman line. Linda Hirshman argued persuasively that all powerful, ambitious women are at some point dismissed as “hysterical” or “insane.” Too true. The problem now is that when Clinton behaves irrationally, we can’t call her out for it because it would be sexist. If we can't call irrational behavior irrational because the character in question is a woman, then it’s a short hop from here to a Tennessee Williams play ...

I think it's time for Momma to utter her infamous line from A Streetcar Named Desire - "Blanche, it is time to go." Carry on mis amigos...
 

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Comment by livingonli on 05/23/2008 13:11:05
Fristy pants.

Comment by m-hadley on 05/23/2008 13:12:29
Shane-O

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by Random on 05/23/2008 13:12:45
BOO!

Comment by livingonli on 05/23/2008 13:13:46
The Shane-O/DJ team-up. Now Steph doesn't have to do any production work at all.

Comment by velveeta jones on 05/23/2008 13:13:58
Great Random: I've got something else:



STOCKTON, Calif. -- Republican John McCain on Thursday rejected endorsements from two influential but controversial televangelists, saying there is no place for their incendiary criticisms of other faiths.



McCain rejected the months-old endorsement of Texas preacher John Hagee after an audio recording surfaced in which the preacher said God sent Adolf Hitler to help Jews reach the promised land. McCain called the comment "crazy and unacceptable."



He later repudiated the support of Rod Parsley, an Ohio preacher who has sharply criticized Islam and called the religion inherently violent.



McCain issued a statement Thursday afternoon announcing his decision about Hagee.



"Obviously, I find these remarks and others deeply offensive and indefensible, and I repudiate them. I did not know of them before Reverend Hagee's endorsement, and I feel I must reject his endorsement as well," he said.



Later, in Stockton, he told reporters: "I just think that the statement is crazy and unacceptable."








This is the headline from HuffPo............. Discuss!

Comment by m-hadley on 05/23/2008 13:14:10
Mornin' Liv,

Hope it is okay - I stepped in (it) :(

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by Scoopster on 05/23/2008 13:15:52
Morning all and Happy Fridee!! :party:



Did I hear you're a gamer Random? What kinda stuff you into?

Comment by velveeta jones on 05/23/2008 13:16:22
Hey wait a minute.............. its really not like BobR to forget to post a blog on his own site.



:o



He's a ............................. ZOMBIE! ZOMBIE! Raine! Wake up! Hit him with a shovel! Quick!

Comment by m-hadley on 05/23/2008 13:16:56
Mornin' Velveeta, and assorted 4Fers :D

Check out the new poll on my blog and weigh in, if you feel so inclined.

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by Random on 05/23/2008 13:17:20
Quote by Scoopster:

Morning all and Happy Fridee!! :party:



Did I hear you're a gamer Random? What kinda stuff you into?


mostly RPGs, but i play anything with great frequancy, except racers and fighters. (sports games aren't real games...Never have been...never will be)

Comment by Raine on 05/23/2008 13:18:29
FAye, Bobber is gonna have to come to Tulsa and kiss you!

Comment by livingonli on 05/23/2008 13:18:30
Quote by m-hadley:

Mornin' Liv,

Hope it is okay - I stepped in (it) :(

Cheers,

mfaye


I'm sure it's fine.



How are you feeling today?

Comment by m-hadley on 05/23/2008 13:19:19
Velveeta,

I decided to pinch hit when I read that BobR overslept this morning and then had to rush off to a Doctor's appointment. Hope it doesn't break the blog :nervous:

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by Raine on 05/23/2008 13:19:40
Quote by velveeta jones:

Hey wait a minute.............. its really not like BobR to forget to post a blog on his own site.



:o



He's a ............................. ZOMBIE! ZOMBIE! Raine! Wake up! Hit him with a shovel! Quick!


THAT's what it is! HE did look a zombie this morning!







Comment by Raine on 05/23/2008 13:21:16
Quote by Random:

BOO!
EEp.





Random get a participation Ribbon for the other blog!





http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/raine1967/ribbon-1.jpg


Comment by Random on 05/23/2008 13:21:46
Quote by livingonli:

At least you didn't have to worry about the Marvel Zombies. They can still use their superpowers and talk even though they are dead.


You haven't faced anything like those infected by the T or G viruses.

Comment by m-hadley on 05/23/2008 13:21:47
Quote by Raine:

FAye, Bobber is gonna have to come to Tulsa and kiss you!


My lips are atwitterin' I really do hope that you both come out and see me sometime

:dance:

Cheers,

mfaye



Comment by Random on 05/23/2008 13:22:36
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Random:

BOO!
EEp.





Random get a participation Ribbon for the other blog!





http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/raine1967/ribbon-1.jpg


I am unsure of how to react to that

Comment by m-hadley on 05/23/2008 13:23:33
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by m-hadley:

Mornin' Liv,

Hope it is okay - I stepped in (it) :(

Cheers,

mfaye


I'm sure it's fine.



How are you feeling today?


Mucho mejor, Gracias, Liv - how you doing today?



Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by Scoopster on 05/23/2008 13:23:35
Quote by Random:

Quote by Scoopster:

Morning all and Happy Fridee!! :party:



Did I hear you're a gamer Random? What kinda stuff you into?


mostly RPGs, but i play anything with great frequancy, except racers and fighters. (sports games aren't real games...Never have been...never will be)


Ahh cool.. I'm mainly stuck in MMO Land (Final Fantasy Online only tho.. i can't stand WoW) and occasionally I'll break out something from my classic collection - Doom2, Quake, Max Payne.. Been looking for something new to try out now tho, to see how hard I can push the new machine!

Comment by Raine on 05/23/2008 13:25:29
BTW, I don't care if he renounced HAgee and PArsley or not... he went after thier endorsement like a prom date.



McCain NEeds to renounce and deject them and give about 50 more speeches.

Comment by livingonli on 05/23/2008 13:25:48
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by m-hadley:

Mornin' Liv,

Hope it is okay - I stepped in (it) :(

Cheers,

mfaye


I'm sure it's fine.



How are you feeling today?


Mucho mejor, Gracias, Liv - how you doing today?



Cheers,

mfaye


I'm doing fine. The sun is finally out so that should help my mood.

Comment by velveeta jones on 05/23/2008 13:26:31
Two things:

First, as a stickler for all things theatre........... the "famous" line from Streetcar was spoken by Blanche: "I've always depended on the kindness of strangers" [Fade to Black]. The other line may well have been said, but it ain't the famous one!



Second: Great post Faye, and I agree wholeheartedly that Geraldine is now an odious person who I have lost all respect for.

Comment by livingonli on 05/23/2008 13:27:08
You need something to hold off these zombies.



http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/696/696123/marvel-zombies-20060315001749944.jpg


Comment by Random on 05/23/2008 13:27:26
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Scoopster:

Morning all and Happy Fridee!! :party:



Did I hear you're a gamer Random? What kinda stuff you into?


mostly RPGs, but i play anything with great frequancy, except racers and fighters. (sports games aren't real games...Never have been...never will be)


Ahh cool.. I'm mainly stuck in MMO Land (Final Fantasy Online only tho.. i can't stand WoW) and occasionally I'll break out something from my classic collection - Doom2, Quake, Max Payne.. Been looking for something new to try out now tho, to see how hard I can push the new machine!


Okay...well, FFO is just a disturbing perversion of that series (my opinion). Beside the fact, you're a PC Gamer then, eh? (console gamer here)



Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/23/2008 13:28:08
If we can't call irrational behavior irrational because the character in question is a woman...


yes. this is a problem -- and unfortunately it's used by true sexists to excuse their attitudes and behaviors. It doesn't help anyone!

Comment by Random on 05/23/2008 13:28:21
Quote by livingonli:

You need something to hold off these zombies.



http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/696/696123/marvel-zombies-20060315001749944.jpg


The Tyrant could kick their ass...*grumbles*

Comment by Raine on 05/23/2008 13:29:19
:thud: EVERY VOTE should be counted Sean hannity? WTF?!?!?

Comment by starling310 on 05/23/2008 13:30:15
Morning.



Great post Roomie....I agree. Last night, I was thinking about that very thing. There have been examples of sexism regarding Hillary, absolutely! And, some of them have been downright disgusting. But, there are also plenty of people voting for her "because she's a woman."

Her campaign failed for several reasons. Sexism isn't even in the Top 5, in :star:'s humble opinion.



Comment by livingonli on 05/23/2008 13:34:19
Regarding the Thom Hartmann letter. I don't know if it's his idea to be fair or he has to suck up the pro-Shillary AAR management. But he seems a little blind to the fact that HRC is not a progressive which is the main reason I don't support her and her campaign tactics and wanting to move the goal posts have further disgusted me with her.

Comment by Raine on 05/23/2008 13:36:31
:star:ling! you sexist.

Comment by starling310 on 05/23/2008 13:37:02
I've heard bad rumors about Spacey and ever since I have not been able to look at him the same. . . I have no proof that they are true though. :shrug:

Comment by starling310 on 05/23/2008 13:38:10
Quote by Raine:

:star:ling! you sexist.




That's an Elitist Sexist to you!



Comment by starling310 on 05/23/2008 13:39:32
The PEN IS BLUE!!!! IT'S BLUUUUEEEE!!! :cry:

Comment by Random on 05/23/2008 13:39:50
Quote by starling310:

I've heard bad rumors about Spacey and ever since I have not been able to look at him the same. . . I have no proof that they are true though. :shrug:


What the hell...I like Spacey.

Comment by m-hadley on 05/23/2008 13:40:16
Quote by velveeta jones:

Two things:

First, as a stickler for all things theatre........... the "famous" line from Streetcar was spoken by Blanche: "I've always depended on the kindness of strangers" [Fade to Black]. The other line may well have been said, but it ain't the famous one!



Second: Great post Faye, and I agree wholeheartedly that Geraldine is now an odious person who I have lost all respect for.




Velveeta,

I defer to you in all things theater, but I was referring to Stephanie's short acting career at the Edinburgh Theatre Festival (Steph played the nurse) with the final line of the play "Blanche, it's time to go." (Substitute Hillary for Blanche and I think we have a great line here.)

Cheers,

mfaye :D





Comment by starling310 on 05/23/2008 13:42:08
July 10th? Dag. That's a long time to wait!



Comment by livingonli on 05/23/2008 13:42:12
Quote by starling310:

Quote by Raine:

:star:ling! you sexist.




That's an Elitist Sexist to you!



Or is that Elitist Sexist Latte Drinker?

Comment by m-hadley on 05/23/2008 13:42:43
Quote by starling310:

Morning.



Great post Roomie....I agree. Last night, I was thinking about that very thing. There have been examples of sexism regarding Hillary, absolutely! And, some of them have been downright disgusting. But, there are also plenty of people voting for her "because she's a woman."

Her campaign failed for several reasons. Sexism isn't even in the Top 5, in :star:'s humble opinion.





Thanks Starling,

Considering it was thrown together in a couple minutes - it could use some work



Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by livingonli on 05/23/2008 13:43:02
Inherent contempt! Inherent contempt!

Comment by starling310 on 05/23/2008 13:43:27
Quote by Random:

Quote by starling310:

I've heard bad rumors about Spacey and ever since I have not been able to look at him the same. . . I have no proof that they are true though. :shrug:


What the hell...I like Spacey.




I do/did too....I probably shouldn't spread the rumors if I can't verify their truth. But, for me, now that I've heard it....just tainted him.

Comment by velveeta jones on 05/23/2008 13:43:55
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Two things:

First, as a stickler for all things theatre........... the "famous" line from Streetcar was spoken by Blanche: "I've always depended on the kindness of strangers" [Fade to Black]. The other line may well have been said, but it ain't the famous one!



Second: Great post Faye, and I agree wholeheartedly that Geraldine is now an odious person who I have lost all respect for.




Velveeta,

I defer to you in all things theater, but I was referring to Stephanie's short acting career at the Edinburgh Theatre Festival (Steph played the nurse) with the final line of the play "Blanche, it's time to go." (Substitute Hillary for Blanche and I think we have a great line here.)

Cheers,

mfaye :D


Uh oh.......... I may have to whip out my TW plays............ but I believe, the nurse says to the Doctor: "Doctor, we have to go". Stephanie might just be









WRONG!



:thud:







Comment by livingonli on 05/23/2008 13:44:02
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by starling310:

Morning.



Great post Roomie....I agree. Last night, I was thinking about that very thing. There have been examples of sexism regarding Hillary, absolutely! And, some of them have been downright disgusting. But, there are also plenty of people voting for her "because she's a woman."

Her campaign failed for several reasons. Sexism isn't even in the Top 5, in :star:'s humble opinion.





Thanks Starling,

Considering it was thrown together in a couple minutes - it could use some work



Cheers,

mfaye


You did fine, our humble librarian.

Comment by starling310 on 05/23/2008 13:47:02
Quote by velveeta jones:



Uh oh.......... I may have to whip out my TW plays............ but I believe, the nurse says to the Doctor: "Doctor, we have to go". Stephanie might just be









WRONG!



:thud:









Does anyone ever truly get Tennessee Williams right!?







Comment by Random on 05/23/2008 13:47:09
Quote by starling310:

Quote by Random:

Quote by starling310:

I've heard bad rumors about Spacey and ever since I have not been able to look at him the same. . . I have no proof that they are true though. :shrug:


What the hell...I like Spacey.




I do/did too....I probably shouldn't spread the rumors if I can't verify their truth. But, for me, now that I've heard it....just tainted him.


Ahh...Well, I've always looked at it this way. Tom Cruise may be clinically insane and a hateful man...but i can enjoy him on the TeeVee everytime he's on.

Comment by wickedpam on 05/23/2008 13:47:14
Morning all! :hug:



First - Home Depot sucks. So does their delivery service. For $75 I want them to actually put the item I just paid for in full in the place I need it, NOT in my parking space so I can drag it into the house with the help of neighbors! :grumble:





Second - Has anyone noticed a rash of stories like this where it's all about how Dem in congress are driving Lux vehicles?

Comment by velveeta jones on 05/23/2008 13:48:12
Regarding stars and rumors........... I don't hold much to them. I do, however, have a hard time watching films with Scientologists which seem to be multiplying like bunnies in Hollywood. Its a very dangerous cult which has strong ties in government.

Comment by m-hadley on 05/23/2008 13:48:23
Velveeta,

Just like I learned all I know about being a grrrl from a drag queen, all of my theater knowledge comes from the SMS - so mea culpa

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by starling310 on 05/23/2008 13:49:25
Quote by Random:

Quote by starling310:

Quote by Random:

Quote by starling310:

I've heard bad rumors about Spacey and ever since I have not been able to look at him the same. . . I have no proof that they are true though. :shrug:


What the hell...I like Spacey.




I do/did too....I probably shouldn't spread the rumors if I can't verify their truth. But, for me, now that I've heard it....just tainted him.


Ahh...Well, I've always looked at it this way. Tom Cruise may be clinically insane and a hateful man...but i can enjoy him on the TeeVee everytime he's on.




Yeah, sometimes I can separate and sometimes I can't. It's not a choice...just the way my head works.





Comment by velveeta jones on 05/23/2008 13:51:41
Quote by m-hadley:

Velveeta,

Just like I learned all I know about being a grrrl from a drag queen, all of my theater knowledge comes from the SMS - so mea culpa

Cheers,

mfaye




Oh dear!



:rofl: :rofl: