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Merit and Standing, or the Lack Thereof
Author: Scoopster    Date: 08/01/2014 11:07:46

Now that the GOP-controlled House has voted to waste even more taxpayer money on their silly legal manuever, perhaps it's a good time to look at how civil lawsuits work in our wonderful country.

A great place to start, whether you're a practiced juris doctor or just a layman like myself, is the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. These fairly basic (yeah I'm being generous here) rules establish the steps to take when filing a civil lawsuit, the various procedures and hearings, motions, defenses and objections. They also set the boundaries and requirements that determine if a lawsuit has merit or is frivolous, whether a plaintiff has standing to file the suit, and which court(s) have standing to hear arguments in the suit.

Follow me.... into the esquire hole!

NOTE: The legal conclusions highlighted below are my own, and are not necessarily accurate since I'm not a lawyer. If by chance a lawyer does read this and finds something that needs correction, clarification or can add additional information to the discussion we welcome you to join in the comments.

The part of these rules of immediate interest to us at this point is Title III, Rule 12, Sections (b) and ©. (Emphasis added below)
(b) How to Present Defenses. Every defense to a claim for relief in any pleading must be asserted in the responsive pleading if one is required. But a party may assert the following defenses by motion:

(1) lack of subject-matter jurisdiction;

(2) lack of personal jurisdiction;

(3) improper venue;

(4) insufficient process;

(5) insufficient service of process;

(6) failure to state a claim upon which relief can be granted; and

(7) failure to join a party under Rule 19.

A motion asserting any of these defenses must be made before pleading if a responsive pleading is allowed. If a pleading sets out a claim for relief that does not require a responsive pleading, an opposing party may assert at trial any defense to that claim. No defense or objection is waived by joining it with one or more other defenses or objections in a responsive pleading or in a motion.

© Motion for Judgment on the Pleadings. After the pleadings are closed—but early enough not to delay trial—a party may move for judgment on the pleadings.


Lack of Subject-Matter Jurisdiction: This means that the plaintiff must show that they have a valid legal basis for their lawsuit.

In this case, the basis for the lawsuit is that the President is not faithfully executing laws, and therefore is in violation of Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution. However, the Constitution doesn't firmly define this other than to say that the President "...shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed,..." which means the extent of this power can be defined by acts of Congress. And we've seen many, many cases of such limits and definitions on Presidential Power passed through Congress and enacted into law, with or without the President's signature when necessary. One of the most well-known cases of this is the War Powers Resolution of 1973 which limited the President's executive power as Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces.

The faithful execution clause has also been defined over the years to mean that the President doesn't directly oversee execution of laws, but that he oversees and delegates the power to the rest of the Executive Branch divisions. The Cabinet Secretaries, who manage the various divisions, report back to the President on their progress and obstacles in executing laws. And there will be obstacles - cost adjustments which require changes to budgets, conflicts with other existing laws that need to be resolved, and of course public perception are just a few examples of problems that may arise in the execution of new laws.

Such is the case with the Affordable Care Act, with its well-publicized web portal technical issues, conflicts with states that refuse to cooperate, and tax implications from the employer and individual mandates. Based on the information available after the past few years of implementing changes and preparing for the full launch of the ACA, it was determined by the President's advisers that more time was needed. And he took it on himself to inform the public.

That wasn't good enough for Speaker Boehner. After years of attacking the President and leading his majority caucus in the House to vote over 50 times to outright repeal the ACA, most of those without a replacement plan or even keeping new regulations that had already gone into effect, he pulled a complete turnaround and decide that the President needed to get the new law fully implemented on its original timetable! That's led him to this point, and this is the subject matter of his lawsuit. That's a really flimsy argument to make because there's no act of Congress that forces the President to fully enforce a law as it is written, and I'm pretty sure the matter hasn't been litigated previously. Unless Boehner's legal team has a REALLY convincing argument, I don't see a federal judge letting the suit go forward.


Failure to State a Claim Upon Which Relief Can Be Granted: This means that the plaintiff needs to show harm by the actions of the defendant.

As I mentioned above, the basis for the lawsuit is that the President isn't implementing the ACA on schedule or to the letter of the law. However, as I also mentioned the House has voted over 50 times to repeal the ACA. These two paths of action are at direct opposition to each other - they want to repeal the law completely, but at the same time they want it fully enacted! That's a clear contradiction of intent that goes against the action (or inaction) that is claimed in the lawsuit to have caused harm, and if a layman such as myself can see that then you can guess what a federal judge with an experienced legal mind is going to do.

http://www.servicememberscivilreliefact.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/AngryJudge.jpg


That said, a judge could just plain throw out the suit on improper venue. There is, after all, a Constitutionally defined path for Congress to air its grievances against a President that they see as not acting in a manner consistent with his oath of office and the Constitution. And despite Boehner's assertions that they don't want to, they're pretty damn vocal about doing it:

Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) - May 2010
Fox News Contributor Dick Morris - October 2010
Rep. James Sensenbrenner (R-WI) - July 2011 and December 2011
Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC) - July 2011
Rep. Steve King (R-IA) - July 2011
Rep. Michael Burgess (R-TX) - August 2011
Sen. Jon Kyl (R-AZ) - June 2012
Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL) - January 2013
Rep. Steve Stockman (R-CO) - January 2013
Former Rep. Trey Radel (R-FL) - January 2013
Rep. Louis Gohmert (R-TX) - January 2013
Former Atty. General Edwin Meese - January 2013
Wash. Times columnist Jeffrey Kuhner - April 2013
Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) - May 2013
Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) - May 2013
Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) - August 2013
Rep. Blake Farenthold (R-TX) - August 2013
Rep. Kerry Bentivolio (R-MI) - August 2013
South Dakota Republican Party Convention - June 2014
Former Rep. Allen West (R-FL) - June 2014
Former Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) - July 2014
Rep. Steve Scalise (R-LA) - July 2014
..... I could list more but we'd be here all day.

 

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Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2014 13:13:47
Morning

Comment by Scoopster on 08/01/2014 13:23:51
Mornin'..

So yeah I'm still running behind on finishing this thing, and I have to go into a 3-hour staff meeting like right now!

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/01/2014 13:52:53
The governor of Mississippi has brass testicles.

All of this is why, according to a recent report, the number of uninsured in the state has grown since last year, when Obamacare went into effect. As of this month, Mississippi has an uninsured rate of more than 21 percent, a 3.34 percentage-point increase over the previous year. By contrast, West Virginia—a similarly poor state that took the opposite approach—has seen its uninsured rate decline from more than 17 percent to an estimate of less than 7 percent, a slightly more than 10-point drop.

Obviously, the bad news made its way to Gov. Bryant. But rather than take responsibility for the consequences of his policy choices, Bryant set a new standard for chutzpah and blamed President Obama. “If statistics show that the ill-conceived and so-called Affordable Care Act is resulting in higher rates of uninsured people in Mississippi,” said Bryant, “I’d say that’s yet another example of a broken promise from Barack Obama.”


Yes, you read that right, Phil Bryant is blaming POTUS for his failure to expand Medicaid.

Comment by Raine on 08/01/2014 14:19:46
Quote by Mondobubba:
The governor of Mississippi has brass testicles.

All of this is why, according to a recent report, the number of uninsured in the state has grown since last year, when Obamacare went into effect. As of this month, Mississippi has an uninsured rate of more than 21 percent, a 3.34 percentage-point increase over the previous year. By contrast, West Virginia—a similarly poor state that took the opposite approach—has seen its uninsured rate decline from more than 17 percent to an estimate of less than 7 percent, a slightly more than 10-point drop.

Obviously, the bad news made its way to Gov. Bryant. But rather than take responsibility for the consequences of his policy choices, Bryant set a new standard for chutzpah and blamed President Obama. “If statistics show that the ill-conceived and so-called Affordable Care Act is resulting in higher rates of uninsured people in Mississippi,” said Bryant, “I’d say that’s yet another example of a broken promise from Barack Obama.”

Yes, you read that right, Phil Bryant is blaming POTUS for his failure to expand Medicaid.

The party of non personal responsibility at it finest!


Comment by Will in Chicago on 08/01/2014 15:11:37
Good morning, bloggers!

I am back after taking my sister in law's Dad to an appointment on Wednesday at the VA and meeting up with friends on Wednesday night. I got rounded up in taking him to dialysis on Thursday. However, I learned as I was getting ready yesterday morning. that he fell at home and was taken by ambulance to an ER room at a local hospital. No broken bones or fractures, but he was admitted with pneumonia. So, two very long days.

Comment by Raine on 08/01/2014 15:21:01
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Good morning, bloggers!

I am back after taking my sister in law's Dad to an appointment on Wednesday at the VA and meeting up with friends on Wednesday night. I got rounded up in taking him to dialysis on Thursday. However, I learned as I was getting ready yesterday morning. that he fell at home and was taken by ambulance to an ER room at a local hospital. No broken bones or fractures, but he was admitted with pneumonia. So, two very long days.



Comment by Mondobubba on 08/01/2014 15:33:28
:donut; plus =

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/01/2014 15:36:13
David Simon proves that God doesn't exist!


Well, for one thing, there is no God. There is only science. If there were a God, he would be—as evidenced by all of modern baseball history—a devoted fan of the Yankees. And God, at least the Judeo-Christian version of Him rather than the Aristotelian unmoved mover, is said to be good. Ergo, there is no God.





Comment by Will in Chicago on 08/01/2014 15:43:47
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Good morning, bloggers!

I am back after taking my sister in law's Dad to an appointment on Wednesday at the VA and meeting up with friends on Wednesday night. I got rounded up in taking him to dialysis on Thursday. However, I learned as I was getting ready yesterday morning. that he fell at home and was taken by ambulance to an ER room at a local hospital. No broken bones or fractures, but he was admitted with pneumonia. So, two very long days.




Raine, I am hoping to be fully awake soon.

In some good news, I am finding teaching jobs still posted. (A friend in Austin got a job a week before she had to start.)

In world news, good news. Uganda's highest court strikes down anti-homosexuality law.

In bad news, the CIA admits to spying on the Senate.


Comment by Scoopster on 08/01/2014 16:10:34
okay I'm back.. and writing again!

Comment by Scoopster on 08/01/2014 16:17:21
Quote by Mondobubba:
David Simon proves that God doesn't exist!
Well, for one thing, there is no God. There is only science. If there were a God, he would be—as evidenced by all of modern baseball history—a devoted fan of the Yankees. And God, at least the Judeo-Christian version of Him rather than the Aristotelian unmoved mover, is said to be good. Ergo, there is no God.


Okay that's pretty brilliant

Comment by BobR on 08/01/2014 16:24:37
The Book of Faces appears to be crapped out

Comment by TriSec on 08/01/2014 16:40:24
Blah.

Comment by Scoopster on 08/01/2014 17:44:38
Okay.. done at last and posted!

Comment by Raine on 08/01/2014 18:27:27
Quote by Scoopster:
Okay.. done at last and posted!
::scurries off to read it!::

Sorry I am having a serious tummy bug today,


Comment by Raine on 08/01/2014 18:36:59
BRAVO Scoop! this was truly worth the wait!



Comment by clintster on 08/01/2014 18:38:10
And Congressional intransigence claims another victim. A Republican, mind you, but still...

"The unfortunate part, and why I'm leaving this place, is because we always wait until the last minute to solve it," Runyan said to reporters after a hastily called meeting of House Republicans. "We saw the train come over the horizon two weeks ago, two months ago. Now we're standing here in front of it, still on the rail."



Comment by Raine on 08/01/2014 19:13:16
Quote by clintster:
And Congressional intransigence claims another victim. A Republican, mind you, but still...

"The unfortunate part, and why I'm leaving this place, is because we always wait until the last minute to solve it," Runyan said to reporters after a hastily called meeting of House Republicans. "We saw the train come over the horizon two weeks ago, two months ago. Now we're standing here in front of it, still on the rail."

Why the hell don;t they call out their own leaders on this?

I don;t get it.


Comment by Mondobubba on 08/01/2014 19:14:30
Damn that was worth the wait.

Comment by Scoopster on 08/01/2014 19:43:50
Welp, the boss is off to Boothbay Harbor for a vacation, and the rest of us decided to leave early.

And thanks! I actually started with the very last part, but was like 'seems so amateurish to just make a big ol' infographic type list'. And then I saw at least three different little infographics along the same theme and thought 'yeahhhhhh i need to add something more substantial cuz i don't wanna look like I work for Buzzfeed'.

Comment by Raine on 08/01/2014 19:49:00
Quote by Scoopster:
Welp, the boss is off to Boothbay Harbor for a vacation, and the rest of us decided to leave early.

And thanks! I actually started with the very last part, but was like 'seems so amateurish to just make a big ol' infographic type list'. And then I saw at least three different little infographics along the same theme and thought 'yeahhhhhh i need to add something more substantial cuz i don't wanna look like I work for Buzzfeed'.


Understood! have a great weekend Scoop!


Comment by Mondobubba on 08/01/2014 19:51:21
Quote by Scoopster:
Welp, the boss is off to Boothbay Harbor for a vacation, and the rest of us decided to leave early.

And thanks! I actually started with the very last part, but was like 'seems so amateurish to just make a big ol' infographic type list'. And then I saw at least three different little infographics along the same theme and thought 'yeahhhhhh i need to add something more substantial cuz i don't wanna look like I work for Buzzfeed'.



What? You didn't want something was going to melt you heart on the company website?

Comment by Raine on 08/01/2014 19:57:04
1) you Go VP Biden, it a Big F'n Deal….
and
2) You are a SS agent, it isn't your job to literally WATCH the VP. Your job is watch out for others!

Now I have two HS school friends that went onto become SS for presidents. One for Bush the first and one for CLinton and then Bush.

The latter friend -- a conservative, quit after the second year of the Bush admin. HE was tired of sitting in Trees at Crawford -- when the *Otus wasn't even there.


Comment by Mondobubba on 08/01/2014 19:59:47
Raine, I need your input on something. as you know I've been taking pictures of the weird stuff that gets left in out breakroom, crockpot liners, empty EPT box, jar of peanut butter, etc, which I think is all part of larger art installation. I want to put them together in a photo album on facebook, but I want the descriptions to read like a gallery catalog. After Artist and title I am getting a little lost. What else should I have in there? Remember there needs to be some snark.

Comment by Raine on 08/01/2014 20:12:19
Quote by Mondobubba:
Raine, I need your input on something. as you know I've been taking pictures of the weird stuff that gets left in out breakroom, crockpot liners, empty EPT box, jar of peanut butter, etc, which I think is all part of larger art installation. I want to put them together in a photo album on facebook, but I want the descriptions to read like a gallery catalog. After Artist and title I am getting a little lost. What else should I have in there? Remember there needs to be some snark.
I think you can upload the pics as an album and then add descriptions afterwards.. You can make the the album suprer private, add the snark and then adjust who can see it.

Comment by Raine on 08/01/2014 20:16:26
No NO NO NO!!!!

Comment by Raine on 08/01/2014 20:17:04
Quote by Raine:
No NO NO NO!!!!


Think upset me and I forgot to actually Link.


Comment by Mondobubba on 08/01/2014 20:20:07
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Raine, I need your input on something. as you know I've been taking pictures of the weird stuff that gets left in out breakroom, crockpot liners, empty EPT box, jar of peanut butter, etc, which I think is all part of larger art installation. I want to put them together in a photo album on facebook, but I want the descriptions to read like a gallery catalog. After Artist and title I am getting a little lost. What else should I have in there? Remember there needs to be some snark.
I think you can upload the pics as an album and then add descriptions afterwards.. You can make the the album suprer private, add the snark and then adjust who can see it.



No how would the descriptions appear in the catalog? Artist, title, material. things like that.


Comment by Raine on 08/01/2014 20:24:53
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Raine, I need your input on something. as you know I've been taking pictures of the weird stuff that gets left in out breakroom, crockpot liners, empty EPT box, jar of peanut butter, etc, which I think is all part of larger art installation. I want to put them together in a photo album on facebook, but I want the descriptions to read like a gallery catalog. After Artist and title I am getting a little lost. What else should I have in there? Remember there needs to be some snark.
I think you can upload the pics as an album and then add descriptions afterwards.. You can make the the album suprer private, add the snark and then adjust who can see it.



No how would the descriptions appear in the catalog? Artist, title, material. things like that.
I think you would have to do that manually, I am not sure what you are aiming for especially if you are using the confines of a FB Photo album.


Comment by clintster on 08/01/2014 20:30:16
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
No NO NO NO!!!!


Think upset me and I forgot to actually Link.


Just saw that myself. I'm about to give up on the whole damn human race. Any chance I could just undergo a brain transplant and live out my days as a border collie?

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/01/2014 20:55:26
Quote by clintster:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
No NO NO NO!!!!


Think upset me and I forgot to actually Link.


Just saw that myself. I'm about to give up on the whole damn human race. Any chance I could just undergo a brain transplant and live out my days as a border collie?


He seems nice.

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/01/2014 21:53:41
Ironman (to Capt. America): Still Brooding, eh? Maybe you need some solid dick* from an Ironman.

Capt. America: Maybe I do Shell Head, maybe I do.



PHRASING!



*solid dick: a slang terms for straight talk.