BOEHNER: If the goal is to destroy ISIS, as the president says it is, I don't believe the strategy that he outlined will accomplish that.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Why not?
BOEHNER: At the end of the day, I think it's gonna take more than air strikes to drive them outta there.
At some point somebody's boots have to be on the ground… That's the whole point-
STEPHANOPOULOS: American?
BOEHNER: Listen, the president doesn't want to do that.
If I were the president, I probably wouldn't have talked about what I wouldn't do. And maybe we can get enough of these forces trained to get ‘em on the battlefield. But somebody's boots have to be there.
STEPHANOPOULOS: And if no one else will step up, would you recommend putting American boots on the ground?
BOEHNER: We have no choice. These are barbarians. They intend to kill us. And if we don't destroy them first, we're gonna pay the price.
STEPHANOPOULOS: I know you've said that - assuming you're speaker next year - you'd want to have a vote on a resolution - why not now?
BOEHNER: I'd be happy to.
The president typically in a situation like this would call for an authorization vote and go sell that to the American people and send a resolution to the Hill. The president has not done that. He believes he has authority under existing resolutions to do what he's done.
STEPHANOPOULOS: You don't agree?
BOEHNER: I think he does have the authority to do it. But the point I'm making is this is a proposal that the Congress ought to consider.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Our reporter Jeff Zeleny has talked to a couple sources on Capitol Hill - said you and other leaders actually warned that if it came up now it would splinter both parties and might not pass.
BOEHNER: I did not suggest that to anybody in my caucus, or to the president for that matter.
STEPHANOPOULOS: So to be clear - if the president put a resolution forward now, you'd call Congress back?
BOEHNER: I'd bring the Congress back.
Boehner is increasingly convinced that Congress must hold a full debate on granting President Obama the authority to use military force against terrorists…. But Mr. Boehner believes a post-election, lame-duck session is the wrong time for such a weighty decision.
“Doing this with a whole group of members who are on their way out the door, I don’t think that is the right way to handle this,” he said.
Mr. Boehner, who is open to a more expansive military campaign to destroy the Islamic State, thinks lawmakers should take up the issue after the new Congress convenes in January. At that time, he said, President Obama should come forward with a proposal for consideration.
Do Republicans really want to go here, given that many GOP lawmakers’ position is to send in ground troops, a course of action that is broadly opposed by the American mainstream?
(snip)
But there are some factors that could — or at least should — complicate this new strategy. For one thing, a large number of GOP lawmakers voted to authorize Obama’s plan to arm and train the Syrian rebels, which gives Democrats a pretty easy response to GOP criticism.
Apparently Republicans think they can endorse Obama’s strategy grudgingly, as a step in the right direction, while saying they don’t think it goes far enough, in order to be able to continue hitting Democrats on the issue. Maybe that will work, but point number two is that the response to ISIS preferred by Republicans themselves is broadly unpopular. Dana Milbank had a good piece the other day detailing just how many GOP lawmakers have called on the administration to be open to sending in ground troops. Milbank concluded: “it would appear that many Republicans are clamoring for a new ground war in the Middle East.”
That’s not a popular position. This week’s NYT/CBS poll found that Americans oppose sending in ground troops by 55-39; independents oppose it by 59-34. Of course, Republicans support this course of action by 62-35, so perhaps this new strategy is yet another way to get all those GOP voters out to the polls.
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Mornin' all..
Who's hyped for not one, but TWO new albums from Prince tomorrow?
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Are you friggin exhuasted, Raine??
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Are you friggin exhuasted, Raine??
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How is Ayn Rand Still a Thing?
John Oliver and staff, you are scamps!
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Are you friggin exhuasted, Raine??
Alrighty then, Ms Von Schtup.
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How is Ayn Rand Still a Thing?
John Oliver and staff, you are scamps!
I will save this for this evening when we watch the entire episode.
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How is Ayn Rand Still a Thing?
John Oliver and staff, you are scamps!
I will save this for this evening when we watch the entire episode.
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I Am assuming everyone saw that wretched NYP cover… Right?
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Say, is anyone else paying attention to the escalating democracy protests in Hong Kong? Well now you are!
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Anyone seen Mala this morning?
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I have a friend who is OBSESSED with Voyager. He thinks it's the best of the newer series (yeah, better than DS9, dude's demented).
At least he didn't say Enterprise is the best.
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I have a friend who is OBSESSED with Voyager. He thinks it's the best of the newer series (yeah, better than DS9, dude's demented).
At least he didn't say Enterprise is the best.
Aww crap! There isn't a Tuvock eyebrow raise gif!
Does this guy think Janeway is a great captain as well?
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I have a friend who is OBSESSED with Voyager. He thinks it's the best of the newer series (yeah, better than DS9, dude's demented).
At least he didn't say Enterprise is the best.
Aww crap! There isn't a Tuvock eyebrow raise gif!
Does this guy think Janeway is a great captain as well?
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I have a friend who is OBSESSED with Voyager. He thinks it's the best of the newer series (yeah, better than DS9, dude's demented).
At least he didn't say Enterprise is the best.
Aww crap! There isn't a Tuvock eyebrow raise gif!
Does this guy think Janeway is a great captain as well?
Yep! He also thinks Doctor Who is the greatest thing ever, like moreso than a lot of the Whovians I know.
Someday I might actually watch that show. Not that high on my priority list.
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I have a friend who is OBSESSED with Voyager. He thinks it's the best of the newer series (yeah, better than DS9, dude's demented).
At least he didn't say Enterprise is the best.
Aww crap! There isn't a Tuvock eyebrow raise gif!
Does this guy think Janeway is a great captain as well?
Yep! He also thinks Doctor Who is the greatest thing ever, like moreso than a lot of the Whovians I know.
Someday I might actually watch that show. Not that high on my priority list.
Voyager or Dr Who? Or both?
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I have a friend who is OBSESSED with Voyager. He thinks it's the best of the newer series (yeah, better than DS9, dude's demented).
At least he didn't say Enterprise is the best.
Aww crap! There isn't a Tuvock eyebrow raise gif!
Does this guy think Janeway is a great captain as well?
Yep! He also thinks Doctor Who is the greatest thing ever, like moreso than a lot of the Whovians I know.
Someday I might actually watch that show. Not that high on my priority list.
Voyager or Dr Who? Or both?
Dr. Who. Voyager I watched thru the second season, and couldn't take anymore.
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I know officially find the Police officer being shot in Fergeson suspicious.
His Body Camera was off -- wth.
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I barely watched any of Star Trek - TNG, and have not watched any of any of the other iterations. I think I only saw the first 2 or 3 movies. The original show was so groundbreaking with all of the hidden social commentary. Everything after that (and a LOT of SciFi) just seemed to me to be mediocre writing tarted up in space costumes.
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Good day, folks. Three late shifts this week so it is going to be rough on my body.
On the SF note, it is amazing how CGI can allow any show to have decent looking special effects so they don't have to resort to the cheezy low budget look so associated with classic Doctor Who. Although there were many well written stories in the classic Who era if you can ignore the cheeziness of the special effects. Harlan Ellison used to write that he thought it was better than Trek. Although I guess because of the ratings, Original Trek was under a lot of pressure which may explain the problems with Season 3. If you watch the third season episodes, it is interesting to note that all the planets seemed to look the same because it looks like they were shot on the same sound stage. I liked TNG and DS9 but I thought Voyager sucked too. I think Breman and crew lingered too long and ended up causing people to lose interest in the franchise. I was more mixed about Enterprise since it had some good episodes but it did seem like Breman wanted to alter things and write over Rodenberry's legacy particularly with the modern Klingon look and bringing in the Borg centuries before they were supposed to come in. I actually have some friends who hated the reboot because the films emphasized action more than storytelling.
A confession, never got around to seeing Babylon 5 (outside of the pilot) or the 2000 era Battlestar Galactica and I should keep them in my bucket list. At some point, I should give in and sign up for Netflix.
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I am so fucking cool! I have an Ello account.
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I am so fucking cool! I have an Ello account.
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I am so fucking cool! I have an Ello account.
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I am so fucking cool! I have an Ello account.
It is going to require some major, awesome sucking up. I only have a limited number o' invites. Let the groveling commence!
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I am so fucking cool! I have an Ello account.
It is going to require some major, awesome sucking up. I only have a limited number o' invites. Let the groveling commence!
:D
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I am so fucking cool! I have an Ello account.
It is going to require some major, awesome sucking up. I only have a limited number o' invites. Let the groveling commence!
:D
Well played! Well played indeed!
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Good day, folks. Three late shifts this week so it is going to be rough on my body.
On the SF note, it is amazing how CGI can allow any show to have decent looking special effects so they don't have to resort to the cheezy low budget look so associated with classic Doctor Who. Although there were many well written stories in the classic Who era if you can ignore the cheeziness of the special effects. Harlan Ellison used to write that he thought it was better than Trek. Although I guess because of the ratings, Original Trek was under a lot of pressure which may explain the problems with Season 3. If you watch the third season episodes, it is interesting to note that all the planets seemed to look the same because it looks like they were shot on the same sound stage. I liked TNG and DS9 but I thought Voyager sucked too. I think Breman and crew lingered too long and ended up causing people to lose interest in the franchise. I was more mixed about Enterprise since it had some good episodes but it did seem like Breman wanted to alter things and write over Rodenberry's legacy particularly with the modern Klingon look and bringing in the Borg centuries before they were supposed to come in. I actually have some friends who hated the reboot because the films emphasized action more than storytelling.
A confession, never got around to seeing Babylon 5 (outside of the pilot) or the 2000 era Battlestar Galactica and I should keep them in my bucket list. At some point, I should give in and sign up for Netflix.
You're window to see BSG on Netflix is closing rapidly as in a day.
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Good day, folks. Three late shifts this week so it is going to be rough on my body.
On the SF note, it is amazing how CGI can allow any show to have decent looking special effects so they don't have to resort to the cheezy low budget look so associated with classic Doctor Who. Although there were many well written stories in the classic Who era if you can ignore the cheeziness of the special effects. Harlan Ellison used to write that he thought it was better than Trek. Although I guess because of the ratings, Original Trek was under a lot of pressure which may explain the problems with Season 3. If you watch the third season episodes, it is interesting to note that all the planets seemed to look the same because it looks like they were shot on the same sound stage. I liked TNG and DS9 but I thought Voyager sucked too. I think Breman and crew lingered too long and ended up causing people to lose interest in the franchise. I was more mixed about Enterprise since it had some good episodes but it did seem like Breman wanted to alter things and write over Rodenberry's legacy particularly with the modern Klingon look and bringing in the Borg centuries before they were supposed to come in. I actually have some friends who hated the reboot because the films emphasized action more than storytelling.
A confession, never got around to seeing Babylon 5 (outside of the pilot) or the 2000 era Battlestar Galactica and I should keep them in my bucket list. At some point, I should give in and sign up for Netflix.
You're window to see BSG on Netflix is closing rapidly as in a day.
what! BSG is going off streaming for NETFLIX?!
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I am so fucking cool! I have an Ello account.
It is going to require some major, awesome sucking up. I only have a limited number o' invites. Let the groveling commence!
:D
Well played! Well played indeed!
What's Ello?
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Good day, folks. Three late shifts this week so it is going to be rough on my body.
On the SF note, it is amazing how CGI can allow any show to have decent looking special effects so they don't have to resort to the cheezy low budget look so associated with classic Doctor Who. Although there were many well written stories in the classic Who era if you can ignore the cheeziness of the special effects. Harlan Ellison used to write that he thought it was better than Trek. Although I guess because of the ratings, Original Trek was under a lot of pressure which may explain the problems with Season 3. If you watch the third season episodes, it is interesting to note that all the planets seemed to look the same because it looks like they were shot on the same sound stage. I liked TNG and DS9 but I thought Voyager sucked too. I think Breman and crew lingered too long and ended up causing people to lose interest in the franchise. I was more mixed about Enterprise since it had some good episodes but it did seem like Breman wanted to alter things and write over Rodenberry's legacy particularly with the modern Klingon look and bringing in the Borg centuries before they were supposed to come in. I actually have some friends who hated the reboot because the films emphasized action more than storytelling.
A confession, never got around to seeing Babylon 5 (outside of the pilot) or the 2000 era Battlestar Galactica and I should keep them in my bucket list. At some point, I should give in and sign up for Netflix.
You're window to see BSG on Netflix is closing rapidly as in a day.
what! BSG is going off streaming for NETFLIX?!
YES! It has been there for ages. Friggin'KabletownI mean Comcast.
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I am so fucking cool! I have an Ello account.
It is going to require some major, awesome sucking up. I only have a limited number o' invites. Let the groveling commence!
:D
Well played! Well played indeed!
What's Ello?
This is about Ello.
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I am so fucking cool! I have an Ello account.
It is going to require some major, awesome sucking up. I only have a limited number o' invites. Let the groveling commence!
:D
Well played! Well played indeed!
What's Ello?
This is about Ello.
Sounds nice - are we sure its not google+ in disguise?
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:You have known me nearly 10 years… you know sure as shit that ain't gonna happen, m'love.Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:So fancy gut… are you gonna just be cool and leave all of us on the Bof?Quote by Raine:I *JUST* heard a bit about this in the car.Quote by Mondobubba:
I am so fucking cool! I have an Ello account.
It is going to require some major, awesome sucking up. I only have a limited number o' invites. Let the groveling commence!
:D
Well played! Well played indeed!
What's Ello?
This is about Ello.
Sounds nice - are we sure its not google+ in disguise?
Oh gosh no. It is so minimal it is almost painful. Google + is downright cluttered in comparison.