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Author: Raine    Date: 09/29/2014 11:54:26

Yesterday, John Boehner was interviewed by This Week host, George Stephanopoulos. Here is part of the interview:
BOEHNER: If the goal is to destroy ISIS, as the president says it is, I don't believe the strategy that he outlined will accomplish that.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Why not?

BOEHNER: At the end of the day, I think it's gonna take more than air strikes to drive them outta there.

At some point somebody's boots have to be on the ground… That's the whole point-

STEPHANOPOULOS: American?

BOEHNER: Listen, the president doesn't want to do that.

If I were the president, I probably wouldn't have talked about what I wouldn't do. And maybe we can get enough of these forces trained to get ‘em on the battlefield. But somebody's boots have to be there.

STEPHANOPOULOS: And if no one else will step up, would you recommend putting American boots on the ground?

BOEHNER: We have no choice. These are barbarians. They intend to kill us. And if we don't destroy them first, we're gonna pay the price.

STEPHANOPOULOS: I know you've said that - assuming you're speaker next year - you'd want to have a vote on a resolution - why not now?

BOEHNER: I'd be happy to.

The president typically in a situation like this would call for an authorization vote and go sell that to the American people and send a resolution to the Hill. The president has not done that. He believes he has authority under existing resolutions to do what he's done.

STEPHANOPOULOS: You don't agree?

BOEHNER: I think he does have the authority to do it. But the point I'm making is this is a proposal that the Congress ought to consider.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Our reporter Jeff Zeleny has talked to a couple sources on Capitol Hill - said you and other leaders actually warned that if it came up now it would splinter both parties and might not pass.

BOEHNER: I did not suggest that to anybody in my caucus, or to the president for that matter.


STEPHANOPOULOS: So to be clear - if the president put a resolution forward now, you'd call Congress back?

BOEHNER: I'd bring the Congress back.
So there it is, John Boehner danced around a lot, but he appears to be willing to bring Congress back now to authorize soldiers on the ground to combat ISIL. That's right, American soldiers, back to Iraq. And he is willing to have a vote on it, with one caveat: he's not willing to vote on it until next year. So either he was lying yesterday, or he was lying when he said this 4 days ago:
Boehner is increasingly convinced that Congress must hold a full debate on granting President Obama the authority to use military force against terrorists…. But Mr. Boehner believes a post-election, lame-duck session is the wrong time for such a weighty decision.

“Doing this with a whole group of members who are on their way out the door, I don’t think that is the right way to handle this,” he said.

Mr. Boehner, who is open to a more expansive military campaign to destroy the Islamic State, thinks lawmakers should take up the issue after the new Congress convenes in January. At that time, he said, President Obama should come forward with a proposal for consideration.
Now back to that vote, that he is so willing to have. In the interview, Speaker Boehner said he believes the President has the authority to go forward, but also believes Congress should hold a vote in support of the current situation. From the interview: "I think he does have the authority to do it. But the point I'm making is this is a proposal that the Congress ought to consider."

They do not know what they want. Perhaps they are taking Greg Sargent's Tongue-in-Cheek suggestion after all. From his September 19 column titled "Maybe Republicans should run on sending in ground troops"
Do Republicans really want to go here, given that many GOP lawmakers’ position is to send in ground troops, a course of action that is broadly opposed by the American mainstream?
(snip)
But there are some factors that could — or at least should — complicate this new strategy. For one thing, a large number of GOP lawmakers voted to authorize Obama’s plan to arm and train the Syrian rebels, which gives Democrats a pretty easy response to GOP criticism.

Apparently Republicans think they can endorse Obama’s strategy grudgingly, as a step in the right direction, while saying they don’t think it goes far enough, in order to be able to continue hitting Democrats on the issue. Maybe that will work, but point number two is that the response to ISIS preferred by Republicans themselves is broadly unpopular. Dana Milbank had a good piece the other day detailing just how many GOP lawmakers have called on the administration to be open to sending in ground troops. Milbank concluded: “it would appear that many Republicans are clamoring for a new ground war in the Middle East.”

That’s not a popular position. This week’s NYT/CBS poll found that Americans oppose sending in ground troops by 55-39; independents oppose it by 59-34. Of course, Republicans support this course of action by 62-35, so perhaps this new strategy is yet another way to get all those GOP voters out to the polls.
While so many Americans take what is happening quite seriously, the Republican party is just using this as another political game. As I said last week, they will have two days in Congress for the rest of this year - TWO DAYS. They want to hold a vote to support this, but they really want President Obama to ask them to hold a vote and even then they are afraid of that vote because of the upcoming midterms and…. WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE according to Lyndsey Graham. This is all so exhausting isn't it?

They want us to be very afraid, just like they them. Don't be afraid. While they likely will not hold a vote, you and I can. We have the power to vote this do nothing majority out of the House on Election Day. Then maybe we can see things actually accomplished that won't include the blood and treasure of more of our soldiers. Americans are tired of more war. We are tired of being told to be afraid with the shadow of more war held over our heads while this majority in Congress is out campaigning to elect more people to tell us to be afraid.

I'm Tired. Now for something completely different.


and
Raine
 

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Comment by Scoopster on 09/29/2014 13:34:13
Mornin' all..

Who's hyped for not one, but TWO new albums from Prince tomorrow?

Comment by Raine on 09/29/2014 13:41:44
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..

Who's hyped for not one, but TWO new albums from Prince tomorrow?

Woah! I wasn't aware of that!


Comment by Mondobubba on 09/29/2014 13:45:43
Are you friggin exhuasted, Raine??

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/29/2014 13:47:33
How is Ayn Rand Still a Thing?




John Oliver and staff, you are scamps!

Comment by Raine on 09/29/2014 13:47:43
Quote by Mondobubba:
Are you friggin exhuasted, Raine??
I cannot begin to tell you how often I sing that song these past 6 months!

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/29/2014 13:53:09
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Are you friggin exhuasted, Raine??
I cannot begin to tell you how often I sing that song these past 6 months!



Alrighty then, Ms Von Schtup.

Comment by BobR on 09/29/2014 13:58:35
Quote by Mondobubba:
How is Ayn Rand Still a Thing?




John Oliver and staff, you are scamps!

I will save this for this evening when we watch the entire episode.

Comment by Raine on 09/29/2014 13:59:25
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Are you friggin exhuasted, Raine??
I cannot begin to tell you how often I sing that song these past 6 months!



Alrighty then, Ms Von Schtup.
I thought everyone would appreciate the clip with this blog….

Comment by Raine on 09/29/2014 14:00:16
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Mondobubba:
How is Ayn Rand Still a Thing?




John Oliver and staff, you are scamps!

I will save this for this evening when we watch the entire episode.
OK, I guess I will too….

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/29/2014 14:11:16
Quote by Raine:
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Mondobubba:
How is Ayn Rand Still a Thing?




John Oliver and staff, you are scamps!

I will save this for this evening when we watch the entire episode.
OK, I guess I will too….



Enjoy that later.

Comment by Raine on 09/29/2014 14:17:54
I Am assuming everyone saw that wretched NYP cover… Right?

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/29/2014 14:32:02
Quote by Raine:
I Am assuming everyone saw that wretched NYP cover… Right?



Another in a long line of klassy covers for the NYP. A triumph!

Comment by Scoopster on 09/29/2014 14:38:18
Say, is anyone else paying attention to the escalating democracy protests in Hong Kong? Well now you are!

Comment by Raine on 09/29/2014 15:03:43
Quote by Scoopster:
Say, is anyone else paying attention to the escalating democracy protests in Hong Kong? Well now you are!
I worry about this.. but I really hope for the very best.


Comment by Raine on 09/29/2014 15:22:21
Anyone seen Mala this morning?

Comment by Raine on 09/29/2014 15:28:31
Quote by Raine:
Anyone seen Mala this morning?
NEver mind. Wharehouse sale day…

Comment by TriSec on 09/29/2014 15:37:53
Hi all.

Jes' passing through. TriSec is resting comfortably at home today - Javi has some appointments this afternoon, so I took the day off.

Been busy already - cleaning up from the trip, I already did a 3-mile hike this morning (scouting a new location for LL Bean activities) and will soon be working on wi-fi setup in the TriSec Compound.

Get out of my way - or I might run you over.

BTW, I have finished all the iterations of "Star Trek" I intend on watching via Netflix for a while. I have tucked into Dr. Who - a show I have never seen an iota of in any way, shape, or form.

(skipped the classic era - started with the 2005 series.)


Comment by Scoopster on 09/29/2014 15:41:44
I have a friend who is OBSESSED with Voyager. He thinks it's the best of the newer series (yeah, better than DS9, dude's demented).

At least he didn't say Enterprise is the best.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/29/2014 15:52:03
Good morning, bloggers!! Raine, you make several great points.

I can see the reasoning behind trying to bomb ISIL and get allies on the ground. (Mind you, not going into Iraq and destabilizing the region is not a choice that we made in 2003.) However, I see few people who want to send American troops in with our history in Iraq.

Once again, John Boehner shows that his best moves can be found in the Chicken Dance.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/29/2014 15:53:56
Quote by Scoopster:
I have a friend who is OBSESSED with Voyager. He thinks it's the best of the newer series (yeah, better than DS9, dude's demented).

At least he didn't say Enterprise is the best.



Aww crap! There isn't a Tuvock eyebrow raise gif!

Does this guy think Janeway is a great captain as well?

Comment by Scoopster on 09/29/2014 16:05:45
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Scoopster:
I have a friend who is OBSESSED with Voyager. He thinks it's the best of the newer series (yeah, better than DS9, dude's demented).

At least he didn't say Enterprise is the best.

Aww crap! There isn't a Tuvock eyebrow raise gif!

Does this guy think Janeway is a great captain as well?

Yep! He also thinks Doctor Who is the greatest thing ever, like moreso than a lot of the Whovians I know.

Someday I might actually watch that show. Not that high on my priority list.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/29/2014 16:07:11
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Scoopster:
I have a friend who is OBSESSED with Voyager. He thinks it's the best of the newer series (yeah, better than DS9, dude's demented).

At least he didn't say Enterprise is the best.



Aww crap! There isn't a Tuvock eyebrow raise gif!

Does this guy think Janeway is a great captain as well?


I was not that impressed with Janeway or Sisko and would argue that Babylon 5 trumped the Star Trek series of the 1990s and 2000s.

Janeway would have been happier as a warrior as she seemed to blunder through diplomatic situations. Also, I think that Sisko would have been happier in Janeway's situation as he seemed to be a better diplomat. Also, both series had major problems. (Hello, having Odo merge/mate with a member of his species to make them understand that SOLIDS are people too was weird. Janeway seemed to have trouble finding a single ally in her journey who was not a crew member.)


Comment by Raine on 09/29/2014 16:12:03
I know officially find the Police officer being shot in Fergeson suspicious.

His Body Camera was off -- wth.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/29/2014 16:21:14
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Scoopster:
I have a friend who is OBSESSED with Voyager. He thinks it's the best of the newer series (yeah, better than DS9, dude's demented).

At least he didn't say Enterprise is the best.

Aww crap! There isn't a Tuvock eyebrow raise gif!

Does this guy think Janeway is a great captain as well?

Yep! He also thinks Doctor Who is the greatest thing ever, like moreso than a lot of the Whovians I know.

Someday I might actually watch that show. Not that high on my priority list.



Voyager or Dr Who? Or both?

Comment by Scoopster on 09/29/2014 16:27:44
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Scoopster:
I have a friend who is OBSESSED with Voyager. He thinks it's the best of the newer series (yeah, better than DS9, dude's demented).

At least he didn't say Enterprise is the best.

Aww crap! There isn't a Tuvock eyebrow raise gif!

Does this guy think Janeway is a great captain as well?

Yep! He also thinks Doctor Who is the greatest thing ever, like moreso than a lot of the Whovians I know.

Someday I might actually watch that show. Not that high on my priority list.


Voyager or Dr Who? Or both?

Dr. Who. Voyager I watched thru the second season, and couldn't take anymore.

Comment by TriSec on 09/29/2014 16:29:47
I just finished Enterprise.

It had its moments, but it's no TOS. This series in particular was one of the final nails in the "Prime" timeline that necessitated the reboot.



Comment by Mondobubba on 09/29/2014 16:32:01
I am so fucking cool! I have an Ello account.


Comment by Mondobubba on 09/29/2014 16:33:37
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Scoopster:
I have a friend who is OBSESSED with Voyager. He thinks it's the best of the newer series (yeah, better than DS9, dude's demented).

At least he didn't say Enterprise is the best.

Aww crap! There isn't a Tuvock eyebrow raise gif!

Does this guy think Janeway is a great captain as well?

Yep! He also thinks Doctor Who is the greatest thing ever, like moreso than a lot of the Whovians I know.

Someday I might actually watch that show. Not that high on my priority list.


Voyager or Dr Who? Or both?

Dr. Who. Voyager I watched thru the second season, and couldn't take anymore.


Yeah I am pretty meh, on the Doctor. I just never saw the appeal. The really old ones are hilarious in their cheapness. An "alien" wearing nothing but a wetsuit and mask.


Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/29/2014 16:33:52
Quote by Raine:
I know officially find the Police officer being shot in Fergeson suspicious.

His Body Camera was off -- wth.



The Ferguson Police Department, whose members were told by the DOJ to stop wearing "I am Darren Wilson" bracelets and to have name tags, has little credibility.

Comment by BobR on 09/29/2014 16:34:02
I barely watched any of Star Trek - TNG, and have not watched any of any of the other iterations. I think I only saw the first 2 or 3 movies. The original show was so groundbreaking with all of the hidden social commentary. Everything after that (and a LOT of SciFi) just seemed to me to be mediocre writing tarted up in space costumes.

Comment by Scoopster on 09/29/2014 16:47:31
Quote by BobR:
I barely watched any of Star Trek - TNG, and have not watched any of any of the other iterations. I think I only saw the first 2 or 3 movies. The original show was so groundbreaking with all of the hidden social commentary. Everything after that (and a LOT of SciFi) just seemed to me to be mediocre writing tarted up in space costumes.


Both TNG and DS9 had their share of social themes, tho not nearly as much as the original series, and they were both a lot more open about it. But that's just the change in society and being able to air such things openly without retribution.

DS9 also had a serious political and religious undercurrent, rivaling Babylon 5. That's why they're my two favorite sci-fi series ever.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/29/2014 16:53:13
Comment by livingonli on 09/29/2014 17:45:38
Good day, folks. Three late shifts this week so it is going to be rough on my body.

On the SF note, it is amazing how CGI can allow any show to have decent looking special effects so they don't have to resort to the cheezy low budget look so associated with classic Doctor Who. Although there were many well written stories in the classic Who era if you can ignore the cheeziness of the special effects. Harlan Ellison used to write that he thought it was better than Trek. Although I guess because of the ratings, Original Trek was under a lot of pressure which may explain the problems with Season 3. If you watch the third season episodes, it is interesting to note that all the planets seemed to look the same because it looks like they were shot on the same sound stage. I liked TNG and DS9 but I thought Voyager sucked too. I think Breman and crew lingered too long and ended up causing people to lose interest in the franchise. I was more mixed about Enterprise since it had some good episodes but it did seem like Breman wanted to alter things and write over Rodenberry's legacy particularly with the modern Klingon look and bringing in the Borg centuries before they were supposed to come in. I actually have some friends who hated the reboot because the films emphasized action more than storytelling.

A confession, never got around to seeing Babylon 5 (outside of the pilot) or the 2000 era Battlestar Galactica and I should keep them in my bucket list. At some point, I should give in and sign up for Netflix.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/29/2014 18:35:47
Quote by livingonli:
Good day, folks. Three late shifts this week so it is going to be rough on my body.

On the SF note, it is amazing how CGI can allow any show to have decent looking special effects so they don't have to resort to the cheezy low budget look so associated with classic Doctor Who. Although there were many well written stories in the classic Who era if you can ignore the cheeziness of the special effects. Harlan Ellison used to write that he thought it was better than Trek. Although I guess because of the ratings, Original Trek was under a lot of pressure which may explain the problems with Season 3. If you watch the third season episodes, it is interesting to note that all the planets seemed to look the same because it looks like they were shot on the same sound stage. I liked TNG and DS9 but I thought Voyager sucked too. I think Breman and crew lingered too long and ended up causing people to lose interest in the franchise. I was more mixed about Enterprise since it had some good episodes but it did seem like Breman wanted to alter things and write over Rodenberry's legacy particularly with the modern Klingon look and bringing in the Borg centuries before they were supposed to come in. I actually have some friends who hated the reboot because the films emphasized action more than storytelling.

A confession, never got around to seeing Babylon 5 (outside of the pilot) or the 2000 era Battlestar Galactica and I should keep them in my bucket list. At some point, I should give in and sign up for Netflix.



You're window to see BSG on Netflix is closing rapidly as in a day.

Comment by Raine on 09/29/2014 18:40:17
Quote by Mondobubba:
I am so fucking cool! I have an Ello account.
I *JUST* heard a bit about this in the car.

Comment by Raine on 09/29/2014 19:00:47
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
I am so fucking cool! I have an Ello account.
I *JUST* heard a bit about this in the car.
So fancy gut… are you gonna just be cool and leave all of us on the Bof?

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/29/2014 19:32:58
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
I am so fucking cool! I have an Ello account.
I *JUST* heard a bit about this in the car.
So fancy gut… are you gonna just be cool and leave all of us on the Bof?



It is going to require some major, awesome sucking up. I only have a limited number o' invites. Let the groveling commence!

Comment by Raine on 09/29/2014 19:42:10
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
I am so fucking cool! I have an Ello account.
I *JUST* heard a bit about this in the car.
So fancy gut… are you gonna just be cool and leave all of us on the Bof?



It is going to require some major, awesome sucking up. I only have a limited number o' invites. Let the groveling commence!
You have known me nearly 10 years… you know sure as shit that ain't gonna happen, m'love.

:D

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/29/2014 19:45:36
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
I am so fucking cool! I have an Ello account.
I *JUST* heard a bit about this in the car.
So fancy gut… are you gonna just be cool and leave all of us on the Bof?



It is going to require some major, awesome sucking up. I only have a limited number o' invites. Let the groveling commence!
You have known me nearly 10 years… you know sure as shit that ain't gonna happen, m'love.

:D



Well played! Well played indeed!

Comment by wickedpam on 09/29/2014 20:28:52
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
I am so fucking cool! I have an Ello account.
I *JUST* heard a bit about this in the car.
So fancy gut… are you gonna just be cool and leave all of us on the Bof?



It is going to require some major, awesome sucking up. I only have a limited number o' invites. Let the groveling commence!
You have known me nearly 10 years… you know sure as shit that ain't gonna happen, m'love.

:D



Well played! Well played indeed!



What's Ello?


Comment by wickedpam on 09/29/2014 20:31:24
Afternoon all :hug:


I have survived this years warehouse sale - first time I've had to shoulder more to the work form our department then before. Sadly that doesn't mean much - just washing glasses, ordering tables, working on set up and tear down and being "greeter" at the front door.

So tired and my feet are killing me

Comment by wickedpam on 09/29/2014 20:32:39
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by livingonli:
Good day, folks. Three late shifts this week so it is going to be rough on my body.

On the SF note, it is amazing how CGI can allow any show to have decent looking special effects so they don't have to resort to the cheezy low budget look so associated with classic Doctor Who. Although there were many well written stories in the classic Who era if you can ignore the cheeziness of the special effects. Harlan Ellison used to write that he thought it was better than Trek. Although I guess because of the ratings, Original Trek was under a lot of pressure which may explain the problems with Season 3. If you watch the third season episodes, it is interesting to note that all the planets seemed to look the same because it looks like they were shot on the same sound stage. I liked TNG and DS9 but I thought Voyager sucked too. I think Breman and crew lingered too long and ended up causing people to lose interest in the franchise. I was more mixed about Enterprise since it had some good episodes but it did seem like Breman wanted to alter things and write over Rodenberry's legacy particularly with the modern Klingon look and bringing in the Borg centuries before they were supposed to come in. I actually have some friends who hated the reboot because the films emphasized action more than storytelling.

A confession, never got around to seeing Babylon 5 (outside of the pilot) or the 2000 era Battlestar Galactica and I should keep them in my bucket list. At some point, I should give in and sign up for Netflix.



You're window to see BSG on Netflix is closing rapidly as in a day.


what! BSG is going off streaming for NETFLIX?!


Comment by Mondobubba on 09/29/2014 20:34:20
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by livingonli:
Good day, folks. Three late shifts this week so it is going to be rough on my body.

On the SF note, it is amazing how CGI can allow any show to have decent looking special effects so they don't have to resort to the cheezy low budget look so associated with classic Doctor Who. Although there were many well written stories in the classic Who era if you can ignore the cheeziness of the special effects. Harlan Ellison used to write that he thought it was better than Trek. Although I guess because of the ratings, Original Trek was under a lot of pressure which may explain the problems with Season 3. If you watch the third season episodes, it is interesting to note that all the planets seemed to look the same because it looks like they were shot on the same sound stage. I liked TNG and DS9 but I thought Voyager sucked too. I think Breman and crew lingered too long and ended up causing people to lose interest in the franchise. I was more mixed about Enterprise since it had some good episodes but it did seem like Breman wanted to alter things and write over Rodenberry's legacy particularly with the modern Klingon look and bringing in the Borg centuries before they were supposed to come in. I actually have some friends who hated the reboot because the films emphasized action more than storytelling.

A confession, never got around to seeing Babylon 5 (outside of the pilot) or the 2000 era Battlestar Galactica and I should keep them in my bucket list. At some point, I should give in and sign up for Netflix.



You're window to see BSG on Netflix is closing rapidly as in a day.


what! BSG is going off streaming for NETFLIX?!



YES! It has been there for ages. Friggin' Kabletown I mean Comcast.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/29/2014 20:35:34
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
I am so fucking cool! I have an Ello account.
I *JUST* heard a bit about this in the car.
So fancy gut… are you gonna just be cool and leave all of us on the Bof?



It is going to require some major, awesome sucking up. I only have a limited number o' invites. Let the groveling commence!
You have known me nearly 10 years… you know sure as shit that ain't gonna happen, m'love.

:D



Well played! Well played indeed!



What's Ello?



This is about Ello.

Comment by wickedpam on 09/29/2014 20:37:31
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by livingonli:
Good day, folks. Three late shifts this week so it is going to be rough on my body.

On the SF note, it is amazing how CGI can allow any show to have decent looking special effects so they don't have to resort to the cheezy low budget look so associated with classic Doctor Who. Although there were many well written stories in the classic Who era if you can ignore the cheeziness of the special effects. Harlan Ellison used to write that he thought it was better than Trek. Although I guess because of the ratings, Original Trek was under a lot of pressure which may explain the problems with Season 3. If you watch the third season episodes, it is interesting to note that all the planets seemed to look the same because it looks like they were shot on the same sound stage. I liked TNG and DS9 but I thought Voyager sucked too. I think Breman and crew lingered too long and ended up causing people to lose interest in the franchise. I was more mixed about Enterprise since it had some good episodes but it did seem like Breman wanted to alter things and write over Rodenberry's legacy particularly with the modern Klingon look and bringing in the Borg centuries before they were supposed to come in. I actually have some friends who hated the reboot because the films emphasized action more than storytelling.

A confession, never got around to seeing Babylon 5 (outside of the pilot) or the 2000 era Battlestar Galactica and I should keep them in my bucket list. At some point, I should give in and sign up for Netflix.



You're window to see BSG on Netflix is closing rapidly as in a day.


what! BSG is going off streaming for NETFLIX?!



YES! It has been there for ages. Friggin' Kabletown I mean Comcast.


Dammit! Now I'm gonna have to do the DVDs


Comment by wickedpam on 09/29/2014 20:38:21
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
I am so fucking cool! I have an Ello account.
I *JUST* heard a bit about this in the car.
So fancy gut… are you gonna just be cool and leave all of us on the Bof?



It is going to require some major, awesome sucking up. I only have a limited number o' invites. Let the groveling commence!
You have known me nearly 10 years… you know sure as shit that ain't gonna happen, m'love.

:D



Well played! Well played indeed!



What's Ello?



This is about Ello.


Sounds nice - are we sure its not google+ in disguise?

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/29/2014 20:42:33
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I am so fucking cool! I have an Ello account.
I *JUST* heard a bit about this in the car.
So fancy gut… are you gonna just be cool and leave all of us on the Bof?



It is going to require some major, awesome sucking up. I only have a limited number o' invites. Let the groveling commence!
You have known me nearly 10 years… you know sure as shit that ain't gonna happen, m'love.

:D



Well played! Well played indeed!



What's Ello?



This is about Ello.


Sounds nice - are we sure its not google+ in disguise?



Oh gosh no. It is so minimal it is almost painful. Google + is downright cluttered in comparison.


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I am so fucking cool! I have an Ello account.
I *JUST* heard a bit about this in the car.
So fancy gut… are you gonna just be cool and leave all of us on the Bof?



It is going to require some major, awesome sucking up. I only have a limited number o' invites. Let the groveling commence!
You have known me nearly 10 years… you know sure as shit that ain't gonna happen, m'love.

:D



Well played! Well played indeed!



What's Ello?



This is about Ello.


Sounds nice - are we sure its not google+ in disguise?



Oh gosh no. It is so minimal it is almost painful. Google + is downright cluttered in comparison.


wow - sounds very zen