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The Monday after…. So it begins.
Author: Raine    Date: 11/10/2014 14:19:57

The ball is now in the GOP's court:
President Obama firmly rejected advice from top congressional Republicans on Friday that he delay his promised executive action on immigration reform, dismissing calls from critics inside and outside his party to allow Congress to debate the issue next year.

Over a two-hour lunch of Bibb lettuce salad, herb-crusted sea bass and pumpkin tart, House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio), Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and their lieutenants warned Obama that his acting alone on immigration would spoil chances for bipartisan agreement on other issues in the new GOP-controlled Congress.

Seated with 12 top members of the House and Senate in the Old Family Dining Room, Obama shot back that he intended to proceed, saying that he had already waited almost two years for congressional action on immigration. He added that his decision should not upend chances for cooperation on unrelated matters, according to aides familiar with the exchange.
This is going to happen.

In spite of petty threats such as this from Speaker Boehner:
He warned that if Obama tries to take executive action on things like immigration reform -- as the president signaled he would Wednesday if Congress continues to stall -- it would "poison the well" and prompt a harsh response from Republicans.

"When you play with matches, you take the risk of burning yourself," Boehner said. "And he's going to burn himself if he continues to go down this path."
Poisoning the well? What the hell has the GOP been doing for the last 6 years? Cleaning up their own fracking runoff?

Does everyone need to be reminded and re-reminded of this?
During a lengthy discussion, the senior GOP members worked out a plan to repeatedly block Obama over the coming four years to try to ensure he would not be re-elected.
(snip)
Attending the dinner were House members Eric Cantor, Jeb Hensarling, Pete Hoekstra, Dan Lungren, Kevin McCarthy, Paul Ryan and Pete Sessions. From the Senate were Tom Coburn, Bob Corker, Jim DeMint, John Ensign and Jon Kyl. Others present were former House Speaker and future – and failed – presidential candidate Newt Gingrich and the Republican strategist Frank Luntz, who organised the dinner and sent out the invitations.


Obama won a second term, and it is time that rank and file Democrats keep pounding this fact home for the next two years. The Republicans want to obstruct. It's all they know.

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Raine

57 comments (Latest Comment: 11/10/2014 22:00:51 by BobR)
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Comment by BobR on 11/10/2014 14:29:18
Now the Republicans have 2 houses of Congress with which to obstruct

Comment by Raine on 11/10/2014 14:31:09
Quote by BobR:
Now the Republicans have 2 houses of Congress with which to obstruct
Boehner can find a lawyer willing to represent him and hiss aahats for that lawsuit, Obama should go exec design left and right for the next two years. That would be sah WEET!

Comment by wickedpam on 11/10/2014 14:33:13
Morning

But their propaganda channel will constantly blame the pres for not doing what the GOP wants.

Seriously, something has to be done about Fox or there something needs to happen to right the information ship

Comment by Scoopster on 11/10/2014 14:47:45
Mornin' all..

Fuck 'em all. If they want to continue their stall tactics and refuse to do their fucking jobs, then Obama should keep on taking whatever action he deems necessary to the general welfare of the nation. If they want to continue shoveling through repeals to the ACA and other extremist legislation, then Obama should gladly veto them.

Comment by Raine on 11/10/2014 15:16:59
REally bad stuff is happening right now in Mexico.

Comment by Raine on 11/10/2014 15:32:12
Comment by Will in Chicago on 11/10/2014 15:40:36
Good morning, bloggers!!

Obama SHOULD go ahead and pursue his agenda as the GOP will CONTINUE obstructing. In their eyes, he can do no good save to surrender to them.

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/10/2014 15:49:41
Hola!


Comment by Raine on 11/10/2014 15:53:14
Quote by Mondobubba:
Hola!
HOLA!


Comment by Mondobubba on 11/10/2014 15:59:12
Out on the Internets there is a video of me drinking out of two-litre bottle of Fireball whiskey. Said video is from a Go Pro camera attached to the bottle. The things you do for friends on their wedding day.

Comment by Raine on 11/10/2014 16:02:22
I seriously think I would like Howard Dean back at the helm of the DNC.

Although I have long held the belief that it was the 50 State strategy that gave us so many blue dogs (Bart Stupak, I can't forget that guy) it was a far better and more progressive party than we have now.

Comment by Raine on 11/10/2014 16:03:06
Quote by Mondobubba:
Out on the Internets there is a video of me drinking out of two-litre bottle of Fireball whiskey. Said video is from a Go Pro camera attached to the bottle. The things you do for friends on their wedding day.

Come on man… give us a link!!!

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/10/2014 16:14:13
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Out on the Internets there is a video of me drinking out of two-litre bottle of Fireball whiskey. Said video is from a Go Pro camera attached to the bottle. The things you do for friends on their wedding day.

Come on man… give us a link!!!



If I had a link, I'd give it!

Comment by Raine on 11/10/2014 16:14:35
As a side note, Mondo -- your new profile picture is amazing! You look great!

Comment by Scoopster on 11/10/2014 16:18:19
Ahhh twangy early 90s rock, soothe my frayed nerves!

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/10/2014 16:19:50
Quote by Raine:
As a side note, Mondo -- your new profile picture is amazing! You look great!



Thankee!

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/10/2014 16:43:12



Brietbart.com's latest "journalism" fail. Yet it is out there in the environment, running wild with ass-hats believing it.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/10/2014 17:10:56


and just like Surgeon General, I'm kind of doubting we're going to have an Attorney General for 2 years.

Comment by Scoopster on 11/10/2014 17:18:02
Quote by wickedpam:


and just like Surgeon General, I'm kind of doubting we're going to have an Attorney General for 2 years.

Yeah unless it get pushed through before the end of this session, which I suspect Harry Reid will try to do.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/10/2014 17:20:41
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by wickedpam:


and just like Surgeon General, I'm kind of doubting we're going to have an Attorney General for 2 years.

Yeah unless it get pushed through before the end of this session, which I suspect Harry Reid will try to do.


Honestly, I want to believe in Harry Reid but he's let me down so much that I'm not holding out much hope anymore.


Comment by Raine on 11/10/2014 17:22:50
Thom just said he got high in Denver over the weekend.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/10/2014 17:24:45
That Thom has never heard of Mary Jane's and Laffy Taffy just tells me that pop culture is beneath him

Comment by Raine on 11/10/2014 17:29:42
Quote by wickedpam:
That Thom has never heard of Mary Jane's and Laffy Taffy just tells me that pop culture is beneath him
Agreed.



Comment by wickedpam on 11/10/2014 17:35:50
Thom, also does not know now to drink apparently.

Comment by livingonli on 11/10/2014 17:51:58
I don't think it's like anyone ever said Thom was hip.

Comment by Raine on 11/10/2014 17:53:06
Quote by livingonli:
I don't think it's like anyone ever said Thom was hip.

True, Thom is very much a wonk in every aspect of his life.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/10/2014 17:59:26
Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli:
I don't think it's like anyone ever said Thom was hip.

True, Thom is very much a wonk in every aspect of his life.


True but to me it seems he puts himself above it all. You can totally be a wonk and still know about candy that's been around since the 1950's and even more crazy geeky things.

Thom is super smart and I respect him for it but this is one of those areas were he puts me off.

Comment by Raine on 11/10/2014 18:23:49
KEep me the hell away from this Doctor. There is no such thing as a Doctor not taking Obamacare.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/10/2014 18:32:08
Why is it every time I see Brietbart I read it as Bieber?

Comment by Raine on 11/10/2014 18:34:32
Quote by wickedpam:
Why is it every time I see Brietbart I read it as Bieber?

They both rouse the same intellectual curiosity?

Comment by Raine on 11/10/2014 18:42:08
Obama says FCC should reclassify internet as a utility

Regulating internet service under Title II would mean reclassifying it as a utility, like water. This means that internet providers would just be pumping internet back and forth through pipes and not actually making any decisions about where the internet goes. For the most part, that's a controversial idea in the eyes of service providers alone. It means that they're losing some control over what they sell, and that they can't favor certain services to benefit their own business. Instead, providers would be stuck allowing consumers to use the internet as they want to, using whatever services they like without any penalty. If that sounds pretty great, it's because that's basically how the internet has worked up until now.


Comment by Will in Chicago on 11/10/2014 18:42:54
Quote by Raine:
KEep me the hell away from this Doctor. There is no such thing as a Doctor not taking Obamacare.



Can we keep this doctor away from any position of responsibility in public life. She lied about healthcare in Europe. I know people in Europe who would laugh at this doctor to her face.

Comment by Scoopster on 11/10/2014 18:45:56
Quote by Raine:
Obama says FCC should reclassify internet as a utility

Regulating internet service under Title II would mean reclassifying it as a utility, like water. This means that internet providers would just be pumping internet back and forth through pipes and not actually making any decisions about where the internet goes. For the most part, that's a controversial idea in the eyes of service providers alone. It means that they're losing some control over what they sell, and that they can't favor certain services to benefit their own business. Instead, providers would be stuck allowing consumers to use the internet as they want to, using whatever services they like without any penalty. If that sounds pretty great, it's because that's basically how the internet has worked up until now.

ABSOLUTELY NOT. Regulating the internet as a utility would give service providers the liberty to charge us by quantity used, like water and electric. That means you'd pay by the kilobyte or megabyte. FUCK THAT.

Comment by Scoopster on 11/10/2014 18:54:10
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH some twit just posted a reply to my friend's FB status saying "we here in Texas and in most conservative states, back him 100%" about Ted Cruz.

I had fun mentioning that he was elected with a 56-41 margin and his approval rating right now is 43-42.

Comment by livingonli on 11/10/2014 19:03:35
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by Raine:
Obama says FCC should reclassify internet as a utility

Regulating internet service under Title II would mean reclassifying it as a utility, like water. This means that internet providers would just be pumping internet back and forth through pipes and not actually making any decisions about where the internet goes. For the most part, that's a controversial idea in the eyes of service providers alone. It means that they're losing some control over what they sell, and that they can't favor certain services to benefit their own business. Instead, providers would be stuck allowing consumers to use the internet as they want to, using whatever services they like without any penalty. If that sounds pretty great, it's because that's basically how the internet has worked up until now.

ABSOLUTELY NOT. Regulating the internet as a utility would give service providers the liberty to charge us by quantity used, like water and electric. That means you'd pay by the kilobyte or megabyte. FUCK THAT.

Actually, it might move it closer to the European model treating the ISP as a common carrier which would mean that it should also actually allow for more competition since Europeans pay far less for internet access than we do.

Comment by BobR on 11/10/2014 19:08:46
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Why is it every time I see Brietbart I read it as Bieber?

They both rouse the same intellectual curiosity?

excuse me?

Comment by Will in Chicago on 11/10/2014 19:10:31
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by Raine:
Obama says FCC should reclassify internet as a utility

Regulating internet service under Title II would mean reclassifying it as a utility, like water. This means that internet providers would just be pumping internet back and forth through pipes and not actually making any decisions about where the internet goes. For the most part, that's a controversial idea in the eyes of service providers alone. It means that they're losing some control over what they sell, and that they can't favor certain services to benefit their own business. Instead, providers would be stuck allowing consumers to use the internet as they want to, using whatever services they like without any penalty. If that sounds pretty great, it's because that's basically how the internet has worked up until now.

ABSOLUTELY NOT. Regulating the internet as a utility would give service providers the liberty to charge us by quantity used, like water and electric. That means you'd pay by the kilobyte or megabyte. FUCK THAT.

Actually, it might move it closer to the European model treating the ISP as a common carrier which would mean that it should also actually allow for more competition since Europeans pay far less for internet access than we do.


I fear that the GOP would call that interference in the marketplace. Somewhere, Adam Smith is spinning in his grave over how badly his writings have been misinterpreted. (Please don't let the GOP know where. They might try attaching a generator to the poor man's spinning body.)

Comment by wickedpam on 11/10/2014 19:11:17
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Why is it every time I see Brietbart I read it as Bieber?

They both rouse the same intellectual curiosity?

excuse me?




Comment by Will in Chicago on 11/10/2014 19:16:20
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Why is it every time I see Brietbart I read it as Bieber?

They both rouse the same intellectual curiosity?

excuse me?




I think that there is more hope for Bieber than Brietbart, but I could do quite well without either.


Comment by Scoopster on 11/10/2014 19:21:51
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Why is it every time I see Brietbart I read it as Bieber?

They both rouse the same intellectual curiosity?

excuse me?



Unlike Breitbart OR Bieber, Bobber is one clever Rouse.

Comment by Raine on 11/10/2014 19:27:55
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by Raine:
Obama says FCC should reclassify internet as a utility

Regulating internet service under Title II would mean reclassifying it as a utility, like water. This means that internet providers would just be pumping internet back and forth through pipes and not actually making any decisions about where the internet goes. For the most part, that's a controversial idea in the eyes of service providers alone. It means that they're losing some control over what they sell, and that they can't favor certain services to benefit their own business. Instead, providers would be stuck allowing consumers to use the internet as they want to, using whatever services they like without any penalty. If that sounds pretty great, it's because that's basically how the internet has worked up until now.

ABSOLUTELY NOT. Regulating the internet as a utility would give service providers the liberty to charge us by quantity used, like water and electric. That means you'd pay by the kilobyte or megabyte. FUCK THAT.
I'm officially confused. Seems like that is already happening now except providers have the ability to clog up the D/L rates at will.

They can also share for tired internet.

(seriously, I am confused. I've said before I am not as educated about this as I want to be. It's not for lack of trying, it's because of so many POV's.)



Comment by Raine on 11/10/2014 19:30:56
The problem I see is that companies like Netflix are already paying comcast for access to the internet.

That isn't anywhere close to a free internet.

I am very confused.

Comment by Scoopster on 11/10/2014 19:33:49
Quote by Raine:
The problem I see is that companies like Netflix are already paying comcast for access to the internet.

That isn't anywhere close to a free internet.

I am very confused.

I think it's time to flesh out all the facts and misconceptions into a single clearing house, kinda like what you did for the whole ACA debate. I'd personally LOVE to throw in for such a project since I already have a good idea what's going on but I also suspect I may be a bit misinformed too.

Comment by livingonli on 11/10/2014 19:35:22
Quote by Raine:
The problem I see is that companies like Netflix are already paying comcast for access to the internet.

That isn't anywhere close to a free internet.

I am very confused.

They also pay Verizon for the same privilege although in the last FiOS promotion, they were including a free year of Netflix if you signed up.

Comment by TriSec on 11/10/2014 20:06:20
Hi all.

TriSec was off today...I through-hiked the Western Greenway on my day off.

9.23 miles!

Did I mention that I'm off to burn flags tomorrow morning?



Comment by Raine on 11/10/2014 20:29:16
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by Raine:
The problem I see is that companies like Netflix are already paying comcast for access to the internet.

That isn't anywhere close to a free internet.

I am very confused.

I think it's time to flesh out all the facts and misconceptions into a single clearing house, kinda like what you did for the whole ACA debate. I'd personally LOVE to throw in for such a project since I already have a good idea what's going on but I also suspect I may be a bit misinformed too.
At least I am not Ted Cruz.


Comment by Scoopster on 11/10/2014 20:29:58
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Comment by Raine on 11/10/2014 20:33:34
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PERFECT!