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The Moral Authority
Author: BobR    Date: 12/10/2014 13:51:56

America has a lot of pride and self-confidence. We just know we're the best country in the world, because: freedom. We look at ourselves as that gleaming beacon on the hill, an example set for the rest of the world to follow. We admire self-reliance and eschew government dependence. We consider ourselves to be just and moral.

Most Americans had only a superficial familiarity with Islam prior to 9/11. The Middle East was very far away, and we thought of it in a more abstract way. It was only after the day we were attacked on our own soil did we strive to educate ourselves. What we held onto was all of the those things common to the religion and culture that were alien to us. We looked down our noses at them like they were savages. They made their women wear burqas, they bombed those who didn't believe their religion, they were positively medieval when it came to torture and execution.

If only we were objective enough to look at ourselves with the same scrutiny.

The Senate report on the torture investigation shows just how savage we can be. The report contains some of the horrific things done in our name, paid for with our tax dollars, including forced rectal feeding, sexual assault, waterboarding, locking them in a coffin-like box for 24 hrs, and threatening to rape and kill their families. In one of the secret prisons, a prisoner was chained to a wall in a standing position and allowed to freeze to death. That sounds like something out of the dark ages.

This wasn't just a "few bad apples" - this was orchestrated at the highest levels of the CIA. It was implemented with an astonishing level of incompetency (if you missed it, just watch this segment from last night's Rachel Maddow Show). This is a horrible dark stain on America - one that requires serious self-evaluation. Are we obligated to prosecute the members of the Bush Administration? U.N. Human Rights expert Ben Emmerson says yes. The head of the ACLU suggested that - since they likely won't ever face prosecution - President Obama should just pardon them, since doing so would officially state that they did commit crimes. So far, the only person who has gone to jail for all of this is the whistleblower who exposed it.

Besides the torture, there are also the Christian militants who bomb abortion clinics and churches. There is even a homegrown Christian "al-Qaeda" here in the U.S. called the Phineas Priesthood:
Members of the Phineas Priesthood — which people “join” simply by adopting the views of the movement — are notoriously violent, and some adherents have been convicted of bank robberies, bombing abortion clinics, and planning to blow up government buildings. Although McQuilliams didn’t leave a letter explaining the reason for his attack, a handwritten note inside the book described him as a “priest in the fight against anti-God people.”

McQuilliams’ possible ties to the Phineas Priesthood may sound strange, but it’s actually unsettlingly common. In fact, his association with the hateful religious group highlights a very real — but often under-reported — issue: terrorism enacted in the name of Christ.

That sounds exactly like what ISIL does. And while we claim to treat women with respect and equality, our history has shown this was forced upon us legally, "allowing" women to own property and vote. A woman's value is often determined by her sexual attraction potential. Attractive women get harassed walking down the street all the time. We enact laws to force women to carry pregnancies as if they are merely birthing sows, vessels for creating more Christian children.

I hear time and again: "At least we don't cut people's heads off".

Wow - is that our standard now? Is that where we draw the line?

Because if it is, beheading may be gruesome, but I will take that over the "humane" lethal-injection method that has states creating chemical cocktails administered to prisoners strapped to a table and writhing in pain for 30 minutes before finally expiring.

Most Christians will likely take offense at this, suggesting that THEY don't support torture, murder, bombing and terrorism. They may support women's rights too. The natural response to that is: neither do most Muslims. The majority of those killed by militant Islam is other Muslims. For the militants of both Christianity and Islam, the religion is an excuse for their sadistic psychopathic behavior, not the driving force. The actions of the worst shouldn't be used to paint the rest with a broad brush.

All of which means that our moral authority is based on false assumptions, prejudiced generalities, and blind ignorance of reality. It is time for us to realize that we are no more moral than any other country; the torture report confirms it.
 

39 comments (Latest Comment: 12/10/2014 21:33:34 by wickedpam)
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Comment by wickedpam on 12/10/2014 14:10:17
Morning

Comment by TriSec on 12/10/2014 14:16:22
Greetings, comrades. Since we're now no better than the Soviet Union or Imperial Japan in our human rights, I shall be adopting a more martial tone going forward.

Comment by Scoopster on 12/10/2014 14:25:39
Mornin'..

I kinda jumped the gun and wrote a blog. Took it down & rescheduled it for later, for the moment.

Comment by Raine on 12/10/2014 14:27:53
good morning.

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/10/2014 14:42:49
Comment by Scoopster on 12/10/2014 14:43:31
Oh hm it seems now I can't edit what I wrote

Comment by TriSec on 12/10/2014 14:48:00
Scoop, you may have your chance- I'm in the field this weekend with my unit, so Saturday is there gor the taking.

I too have ideas to write, by Sunday dvening is generally my 'bonus blog space'.

Comment by Scoopster on 12/10/2014 14:51:19
Quote by TriSec:
Scoop, you may have your chance- I'm in the field this weekend with my unit, so Saturday is there gor the taking.

I too have ideas to write, by Sunday evening is generally my 'bonus blog space'.

Well I suspect Bobber's writing something more comprehensive (and less angry) along the same lines I was on, so I was just gonna move the whole thing into a comment here.

Comment by Scoopster on 12/10/2014 14:54:10
Ah I got it now!
Sorry to step on toes here and pre-empt someone else's blog post, but I'm a little pissed off today.



Yes you heard that right. She said, paraphrased, 'We don't torture anymore because America is AWESOME!!'

HEY "NEWS" BUNNY FUCKWIT - THE POINT IS THAT WE DID TORTURE, AND THAT IS DEFINITELY NOT FUCKING AWESOME! WOULD BE FIND IT AWESOME IF -YOU- WERE TORTURED?! I DIDN'T FUCKING THINK SO!


Comment by Mondobubba on 12/10/2014 15:08:05
Quote by Scoopster:
Ah I got it now!
Sorry to step on toes here and pre-empt someone else's blog post, but I'm a little pissed off today.



Yes you heard that right. She said, paraphrased, 'We don't torture anymore because America is AWESOME!!'

HEY "NEWS" BUNNY FUCKWIT - THE POINT IS THAT WE DID TORTURE, AND THAT IS DEFINITELY NOT FUCKING AWESOME! WOULD BE FIND IT AWESOME IF -YOU- WERE TORTURED?! I DIDN'T FUCKING THINK SO!



What? She's in the LEGO movie?



Comment by Raine on 12/10/2014 15:41:25
Absolutely sickened.



Comment by BobR on 12/10/2014 16:23:14
blog finally posted

Comment by Raine on 12/10/2014 16:26:03
Comment by livingonli on 12/10/2014 18:03:10
It may be going Godwin, but I am increasingly convinced that Fox News and its true believers would have been quite happy in Nazi Germany.

Comment by livingonli on 12/10/2014 18:09:47
Cleanup in aisle 5. The Add Comment button was locked up.

Comment by Scoopster on 12/10/2014 18:10:13
So true it had to be said four times!

Comment by Scoopster on 12/10/2014 18:11:18
Quote by livingonli:
Cleanup in aisle 5. The Add Comment button was locked up.

Yeah the website's been acting kinda funny today, not refreshing all the time when you add a comment or click the refresh link.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 12/10/2014 18:20:01
My USA.....is an awesome USA....

Comment by trojanrabbit on 12/10/2014 18:24:16
Not surprisingly, the Vice Torturer called the CIA report a "load of hooey"

Comment by livingonli on 12/10/2014 18:29:20
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Not surprisingly, the Vice Torturer called the CIA report a "load of hooey"

He's a load of hooey, and I guess he and W aren't going to travel abroad anymore considering what happened to Pinochet.

Comment by Raine on 12/10/2014 18:37:53
I will clean up. this is because the bloggie hamsters seemed to go kablooey.

Comment by Raine on 12/10/2014 18:42:14
Quote by livingonli:
It may be going Godwin, but I am increasingly convinced that Fox News and its true believers would have been quite happy in Nazi Germany.

That's not Godwin.

They are complicit in these these crimes.

Cheney is being interviewed by Bret Bbear this evening. :rage:



Comment by Raine on 12/10/2014 18:43:49
This blog makes me cry.

It's a would that has been re-opened.

Sadly, like a festering infection, it had to be re-opened in order for it to possibly begin to heal.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 12/10/2014 18:47:16
You know, if Nancy Pelosi had the fucking guts everyone says she has and IMPEACHED THE BASTARD, we wouldn't be worrying about this right now.

Comment by livingonli on 12/10/2014 18:51:13
Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli:
It may be going Godwin, but I am increasingly convinced that Fox News and its true believers would have been quite happy in Nazi Germany.

That's not Godwin.

They are complicit in these these crimes.

Cheney is being interviewed by Bret Bbear this evening. :rage:


I heard Chris talk about his twitter fight because the questions you know we'll be softballs. Darth Cheney won't do Megyn Kelley's show again.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 12/10/2014 19:07:48
Yup, bloggie really screwed up. Every time I go back to this page it says (1) new comment. I refresh and nothing new is there.

Comment by Raine on 12/10/2014 19:14:11
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Yup, bloggie really screwed up. Every time I go back to this page it says (1) new comment. I refresh and nothing new is there.
It the Server company that we use.


Comment by Raine on 12/10/2014 19:37:23
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