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Telecom Immunity? - I Don't Think So!
Author: m-hadley    Date: 06/22/2008 12:31:12

Good Sunday Morning Everybody,

Well, I had planned to blog this morning on the recently released report by the Physicians for Human Rights, Broken Laws, Broken Lives, but it makes for grim reading and it, not unlike Scotty McClellan's book, does nothing more than confirms what we have suspected all along, and this time it does it in such gruesome detail that I thought simply directing folks to the report (I think the 18 page executive summary gives one enough ammunition to write any congress person or argue with any right winger who wants to take the position that "America doesn't torture.")

But as you can surmise from that introduction there is another issue on my mind this morning and it is CONGRESS and why they have largely turned out to be such disappointments (with the obvious exceptions of Dennis Kucinich, Russ Feingold, Barbara Boxer, and a few others who have managed to show some spine). I think that it gets back to an observation that both Keith Olbermann and Dan Abrams made on Thursday evening - the night before the House of Representatives capitulated and voted for a "compromise" that essentially provides retroactive immunity for all of the telecom companies that broke the law at the behest of the Bush/Cheney administration and participated in large-scale warrantless spying on Americans. The observation made by Olbermann and Abrams was that the Congress is merely covering their own collective ass as they were as complicit in undermining the FISA laws as the Bush/Cheney administration. I don't believe knowing about a crime and not acting to stop it is as bad as committing a crime, but it is a crime nonetheless, and that is apparently that crime that has Congress's guilty conscience stopping them from doing the right thing and casting a vote that does not give retroactive immunity to companies who broke the law. Chris Lavoie has said several times on the SMS that companies should not have more or better rights than people, but there is the rub - corporations are people in the eyes of the law.

Here’s a copy of the legislation on which our representatives voted. The vote in the House was 293-129. Unfortunately our fearless leader Senator Barack Obama had this to say about this sorry piece of legislation:

"Under this compromise legislation, an important tool in the fight against terrorism will continue, but the President's illegal program of warrantless surveillance will be over. It restores FISA and existing criminal wiretap statutes as the exclusive means to conduct surveillance -- making it clear that the President cannot circumvent the law and disregard the civil liberties of the American people. It also firmly re-establishes basic judicial oversight over all domestic surveillance in the future. It does, however, grant retroactive immunity, and I will work in the Senate to remove this provision so that we can seek full accountability for past offenses. But this compromise guarantees a thorough review by the Inspectors General of our national security agencies to determine what took place in the past, and ensures that there will be accountability going forward. By demanding oversight and accountability, a grassroots movement of Americans has helped yield a bill that is far better than the Protect America Act.

"It is not all that I would want. But given the legitimate threats we face, providing effective intelligence collection tools with appropriate safeguards is too important to delay. So I support the compromise, but do so with a firm pledge that as President, I will carefully monitor the program, review the report by the Inspectors General, and work with the Congress to take any additional steps I deem necessary to protect the lives -- and the liberty -- of the American people."


Makes me wonder what bill he was reading? Your job, should you chose to accept it, is to contact both of your senators tomorrow and Tuesday and Wednesday (until this bill reaches the Senate floor for a vote) and tell them that in a free society, to have the government grant retroactive immunity to corporations that have clearly broken the law and grant unprecedented powers to an already out-of-control executive branch is not only unacceptable, but also is likely unconstitutional. If you'd like some talking points I highly recommend the good old ACLU's site:

Following a vote in the House of Representatives sanctioning warrantless wiretapping and handing immunity to telecommunications companies for their role in domestic spying, the American Civil Liberties Union expressed outrage at representatives who voted for the unconstitutional legislation. The bill, H.R. 6304, or The FISA Amendments Act of 2008, passed the chamber by a vote of 293-129, and is expected to be voted on in the Senate next week.


You might also want to copy Senator Obama on any e-mails or letters that you send as apparently he needs a few reminders from those of us who are now funding his campaign about the kind of representation that we expect from our leaders. Now go get 'em...
Cheers,
mfaye
 

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Comment by BobR on 06/22/2008 13:45:03
Thanks for a good post Faye!



:coffee:

Comment by TriSec on 06/22/2008 13:46:32
Why, good morning folks!



Playing my favorite Sunday morning game..."How far into the Sunday Paper can I get before finding a story to cross-post?"



I didn't even make it to the paper today...two stories on Yahoo! News, and then there is one right on the front page of the Globe today. Some weekends it's like that...



:kickcan:



Comment by capt on 06/22/2008 13:54:14
Excellent post! (and good morning)



So eloquent and concise.



I agree from word one, I want to add something I read - will post a link when I find it again. Along the same lines with a few more substantial concerns.



We MUST hold our politicians feet to the fire, they all seems to stray.



Thanks





Comment by m-hadley on 06/22/2008 13:54:23
Quote by BobR:

Thanks for a good post Faye!



:coffee:






Thank you BobR for giving me an opportunity to blog in Velveeta's place. Any news from Velveeta? Hope she is staying safe and dry Aunt Azalea - have you heard from Velveeta? Please send her our love when you talk with her. Thanks mucho.

Have a great Sunday everybody! :hug:

Cheers,

mfaye

:heart:

Comment by TriSec on 06/22/2008 14:09:26
And a very happy blog birthday to Brit Hume, who is 65 today!



http://www.petsplace.co.za/Sharpei_Blu_Majik.jpg


Comment by capt on 06/22/2008 14:15:17
Here's the one I read yesterday:



An open letter to Sen. Obama.



And I read the next one this morning:



It's Not Yours To Give Away



Both from Kos but I thought of Mondobubba's when I saw the name on the first one Pinsomnia? (glad you finally got some rest)

Comment by livingonli on 06/22/2008 14:18:31
Good morning all.



That dog is probably more coherent than Brit Hume.



So, Tri, do you think the Reds will sweep the Yankees?

Comment by capt on 06/22/2008 14:24:15
The puppy speaks more clearly!







Comment by Raine on 06/22/2008 14:54:00
Good morning.



Excellent entry on this beautiful Sunday Morning Faye.





Comment by MNRN on 06/22/2008 15:00:27
morning keeds. Its a lovely day here, but my keeds can not decide where to go and enjoy, so I am on cuppa coffee number 2, considering returning to my book (Yiddish Policemans Union, on rec of Mondo, and it is SUPERB, yall)



I was gonna buy the paper, but meh.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/22/2008 15:24:08
Good morning everyone!



One of the Fark.com headlines this morning gave me a bit of a chuckle.



Credit card company reduces credit limits of those who used the cards at massage parlors, bars, marriage counselors and tire retread stores. Buying wine in a box can't be far behind




For those who actually want to read the story, here's the link



Now, my wife decided she needed to go into work this morning even though she has the day off to check on an overflowing toilet. In a couple of hours, we're supposed to be heading to my parents place so they can take us to our anniversary dinner. She better show up soon.



Comment by capt on 06/22/2008 15:30:48






Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/22/2008 15:35:49
Thanks, capt





Comment by TriSec on 06/22/2008 15:40:55
Found some more aviation crack...got your red/blue glasses lying around?



NASM on the mall



NASM Udvar-Hazy





Comment by BobR on 06/22/2008 15:49:33
Hey capt - if you click the YouTube button there under the comment editor, you can embed the YouTube itself. I edited your comment to do just that.



:peace:

Comment by BobR on 06/22/2008 15:53:16
DJ has a website with his sound bits. I also added the link to our "Links" list



<----

Comment by capt on 06/22/2008 15:55:38
Quote by BobR:

Hey capt - if you click the YouTube button there under the comment editor, you can embed the YouTube itself. I edited your comment to do just that.



:peace:




THANKS! (learning - learning)



That really is too cool.



Comment by capt on 06/22/2008 15:58:50
The real McCain



A piece from across the pond.





Comment by m-hadley on 06/22/2008 16:08:44
Quote by livingonli:

Good morning all.



That dog is probably more coherent than Brit Hume.



So, Tri, do you think the Reds will sweep the Yankees?






Mornin' Livin,

Do you have the day off? I hope so :P

BTB, I really enjoyed the Bob Marley clip you posted last night - smoke 'em if ya got 'em I attend the Church of the Holy Smoke :D

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by livingonli on 06/22/2008 16:15:07
Hi mfaye.



This is my weekend so I am just chilling out. I think I'm pooped. I wanted to get some stuff done around the apartment but I'm not up to. And since we're supposed to get rain today, it looks like a good day to just curl up in front of the tube and laptop and take it easy.

Comment by m-hadley on 06/22/2008 16:42:30
Quote by livingonli:

Hi mfaye.



This is my weekend so I am just chilling out. I think I'm pooped. I wanted to get some stuff done around the apartment but I'm not up to. And since we're supposed to get rain today, it looks like a good day to just curl up in front of the tube and laptop and take it easy.




Sounds like a mellow day, Liv, enjoy your couch.

BTB, you might want to wander over to my blog - I did add a post yesterday about the Broken Laws Broken Lives report by the PHR. Check it out and feel free to leave a comment :P

Cheers,

mfaye

:heart:

:hug:



Comment by BobR on 06/22/2008 16:49:39
If you want a fun timekiller, check out the McCain greenscreen videos on YouTube. Apparently, Stephen Colbert issued a challenge to take a video of McCain (when he spoke in front of a green screen) and make it "more interesting".



I got through two pages before I started getting burned out on hearing McCain saying the same things over and over, but these are the best we encountered up to that point:



















There are plenty more (close to 240) of them here

Comment by capt on 06/22/2008 17:11:55
Cosmos Marathon on Science Channel HD - WOW - hard to believe the series is 25 years old.





Comment by livingonli on 06/22/2008 17:13:21
And it looks like the Red Sox are on National TV today since TBS is picking up the game and showing it in HD as well.

Comment by capt on 06/22/2008 17:15:33
McCain dancing with the guitar!

Comment by capt on 06/22/2008 17:31:28
TV SoundOff: Sunday Talking Heads



This Sunday talking heads column is a regular re-cap and it is always funny.

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/22/2008 17:49:54
Afternoon all. Semi-major hangover today. A friend of mine was in town for the weekend and a bunch of us went to Wild Wings. There was food, beer, music.

Comment by capt on 06/22/2008 18:17:50
Vitamin B - will help with hangovers.

Comment by TriSec on 06/22/2008 18:34:12
EMT trick - pure oxygen, if you can get it...





Comment by capt on 06/22/2008 18:37:28
Quote by TriSec:

EMT trick - pure oxygen, if you can get it...







WAY better than any other cure!



Comment by Mondobubba on 06/22/2008 18:48:27
I find having a small lunch, a soda and perhaps a schvitz works wonders.

Comment by MNRN on 06/22/2008 18:56:04
Quote by capt:

TV SoundOff: Sunday Talking Heads



This Sunday talking heads column is a regular re-cap and it is always funny.


this totally made my day, Capt. thanks!



MB, a small lunch and a schvitz can cure anything!

Comment by livingonli on 06/22/2008 19:15:22
Hey, MNRN, how is sister ssg doing?

Comment by capt on 06/22/2008 19:40:08
Quote by MNRN:

Quote by capt:

TV SoundOff: Sunday Talking Heads



This Sunday talking heads column is a regular re-cap and it is always funny.


this totally made my day, Capt. thanks!



MB, a small lunch and a schvitz can cure anything!




This is the third Sunday - I never watch the shows or cable news anymore and his take is about what I would be thinking so it saves me the trouble.







Comment by livingonli on 06/22/2008 19:40:14
It was raining in the Bronx earlier with a rain delay at the Yankee game but nothing here yet.

Comment by livingonli on 06/22/2008 21:35:22
Quiet on the blog this afternoon.

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/22/2008 22:00:33
Quote by MNRN:

Quote by capt:

TV SoundOff: Sunday Talking Heads



This Sunday talking heads column is a regular re-cap and it is always funny.


this totally made my day, Capt. thanks!



MB, a small lunch and a schvitz can cure anything!






Ah so very true! The schvitz was wonderful. I topped that off with about 15 minutes of treading water. Not as easy as it sounds. Life is good.

Comment by livingonli on 06/22/2008 22:32:12
The Red Sox game is going into the 13th inning.

Comment by MNRN on 06/22/2008 22:49:13
Quote by livingonli:

Hey, MNRN, how is sister ssg doing?




she is the fabu sistah as always, tho she wiped out whilst running yesterday leading to some serious road rash

:I'm ok, I'm ok!:

Comment by livingonli on 06/22/2008 22:53:47
Quote by MNRN:

Quote by livingonli:

Hey, MNRN, how is sister ssg doing?




she is the fabu sistah as always, tho she wiped out whilst running yesterday leading to some serious road rash

:I'm ok, I'm ok!:


As long as she's OK. She just has to know not to overdo it. :hug:

Comment by livingonli on 06/22/2008 23:03:55
Frangela just showed up on Headline News with a brief sound bite discussing the Dustin Diamond (Screech) sex tape.

Comment by BobR on 06/22/2008 23:28:40
Bottled some homemaid wine and took the dog for a walk.



Earlier watched "Legally Blonde" and "My Cousin Vinny" for the umpteenth times.



Lazy Sunday... B)

Comment by livingonli on 06/22/2008 23:59:48
And tonight I can watch the Fox Sunday cartoons for a change.

Comment by capt on 06/23/2008 00:10:54




Kucinich on immunity in 60 seconds.



He really matched up with me on more issues than any other candidate.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/23/2008 00:32:42
Finally home, stuffed to the gills.



There was a small surprise dinner waiting for us, my parents got the whole family together (my older sister and my two younger brothers and their respective families) and we had a room at the restaurant pretty much to ourselves.



When we got home Cleo the cat went tearing through the presents finding all the tissue paper and is ripping it to shreds.

Comment by Random on 06/23/2008 00:47:09
*stumbles in drunk and falls face first on blog*

Random...Protector...is here...

*falls asleep*

Comment by TriSec on 06/23/2008 00:55:43
Evening, Folks! Sox won in dramatic fashion, walkoff HR by Youkilis in the bottom of the 13th...



Quiet sunday in these parts, I'm relaxin' with some vodka and lemonade (summer beverage of choice, plus it's high in vitamin C, as other bloggers will tell you Your Loyal TriSec is obsessed with scurvy) and getting ready to dial up KofB on the ol' iTunes for my usual Sunday night ritual.



We've been discussing blowing off Washington in August; we've both got automotive issues and we're starting to think we can put Bush's "distraction check" to better use than a road trip...



:kickcan:





Comment by livingonli on 06/23/2008 01:11:21
I always have the traveling bug. I think I'm a little restless so it wouldn't suck if I couldn't go away. I was flirting with going to Canada as a GOP convention getaway but I don't think I will have the money for it and the old car I don't think will handle that trip anymore.

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/23/2008 01:21:43
Quote by TriSec:

Evening, Folks! Sox won in dramatic fashion, walkoff HR by Youkilis in the bottom of the 13th...



Quiet sunday in these parts, I'm relaxin' with some vodka and lemonade (summer beverage of choice, plus it's high in vitamin C, as other bloggers will tell you Your Loyal TriSec is obsessed with scurvy) and getting ready to dial up KofB on the ol' iTunes for my usual Sunday night ritual.



We've been discussing blowing off Washington in August; we've both got automotive issues and we're starting to think we can put Bush's "distraction check" to better use than a road trip...



:kickcan:









Obsessed with scurvy? WTF? :thud:



Speaking of there was a commercial in the irritating 20 minutes before the movie on Friday for the Glen Beck stand up comedy special that is going to be beamed via satellite to movie theatres across the country next month. Beck does stand up? People think he is funny? What the hell is wrong with this country??

Comment by TriSec on 06/23/2008 01:23:23
Liv, start saving your money, then. I'm planning a trip three years out, back to Disney World for our birthdays in August, 2011. We met Mondo, Vicki, Bob, and Raine last time...



Anyway, planning never hurt anyone.