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Georgia was stolen. AKA: you can't be a hero if your party is not heroic.
Author: Raine
Date: 07/31/2008 09:30:22
I am not kidding here. If you are on a team that does great things, then yes! celebrate! Be a cheerleader! But you can't be the hero of a party that does unheroic things. That is not how sports are played... And politics - they are one and the same, as some in the media have said. The problem is: the results of politics are FAR more critical. So - let's begin....
Let's talk about Heroes; let's talk about politics.
Let's talk about how the GOP treats our heroes for a moment. For just a brief moment, let's talk about Max Cleland. In case you did not know, he is a Vietnam vet...He is the honorable and former Senator from the state of Georgia. He did not win re-election and Saxby Chambiss assumed his seat. Basically, he was *swifboated*. The following ad is largely attributed to his *failure* to win his election campaign:
This was the ad that his opponent, Saxby Chambliss ran a few weeks before the election. People keep saying that this was the ad that did him in... I do not agree. Not anymore. This election was stolen. Max--- Mr. Cleland... was swiftboated before the term even existed. No kidding.
We are now finding out that what was a bit suspicious to many Georgians (as well as Thom Hartmann, Greg Palast, and Bev Harris... to name a few) is pretty damn true. Republicans stole that election. Strong charges, I know...
From the Populist in 2003:
The past fews days have opened up a serious story going on down here in Georgia... it seems as tho the '02 elections REALLY were stolen. A few mentions have been made on our Message Board, but This Story blew me way. Seems as tho the Secretary of State at the time (the same Secretary of State bolded above) knew what was going on. there is more at the link, but - in case you are wondering about that patch: it exists. Bev Harris at Black Box Voting has it. That patch exists, and it isn't some urban myth. It was used in Fulton and Dekalb Counties, 2 HEAVILY Democratic areas in Georgia. That was it, those 2 counties. the heaviest Democratic counties in the state.
Back to Max... Mr. Cleland --- Please keep in mind that Mr. Cleland is not just a Vet... he is a REAL hero. the following is from a man who served with him...
Mr. Cleland lost both legs and his arm. In 2002, he lost his senate seat -- I will say again--- he did not lose -- it was stolen, This is a story about how Republicans treat Vets.This is a story about how Saxby Chambliss, as a representative of the Republican party treats our veterans, and our civil servants. This is how they treat our TRUE heroes. This is a story of power and control and the rest be damned.--- according to the GOP --- Saxby questoned Mr. Cleland's service. Did you know that Saxby NEVER SERVED? The dude isn't even from Georgia... Check THIS out... Good to know you care McCain.
Max Cleland did not lose because of a political ad. I propose the media would like you to believe that. To this day... more than 6 years later, they would like you to believe that an ad can make people swing like that...(go back, take a look at those numbers) People are not stupid. Max Cleland didn't lose... his seat in the senate was stolen. The GOP STOLE from a War Hero. THAT is how they treat Vets. They steal from them, and you wonder why John McCain didn't vote for the GI bill. He doesn't consider himself a vet anymore.. He just uses his status as a political toy to dangle to people who think this makes him a hero. He is using those very patriotic Americans. In reality, he has become a Karl Rove Republican, just like Saxby (who, actually started out that way from the gate, thanks to the *patch* and Diebold. Oh btw - he is up for re-election...)
We MUST be vigilant becuase Georgia '02 was a test run. A "beta theft" as it were... Ohio in '04 further pushed the ultimate plan along. We know how they treated another vet (John Kerry) in that election. It would be funny if it wasn't so consequential that John McCain wants his service to not be questioned... he only wants us all to honor it... Well, I don't. I just don't. I respect his service... but I do not honour it. Not when the republicans - his fellow party members - treated Max Cleland the way that they did, not when I know they stole that election. Honorable people don't do that. Honorable people don't treat people that way. And John McCain is not being honorable.
John McCain never talks about what happened to his fellow Vietnam vet, Max Cleland, because John KNOWS that his party will try AGAIN to steal the election.
What he doesn't know is that if we, collectilvely, get out the vote in the massive numbers that we are seeing with the support of the Obama campain no Republican can ever steal our votes again. That is the greatest gift we can give to a man that gave 3 limbs for our country. It is time to do something really heroic; it is time to vote for our true heroes, the ones who truly sacrificed for all of us. It doesn't matter if they served in the military or not, it matters if they fought, lived, died for this country we call the United States of America.
Do it for Max Cleland. Do it for everyone who lived honorably, and truthfully and nobly. Get the vote out. Make voting as viral as a youtube video... be a hero. Ads don't steal elections - the GOP does.
No more stolen elections. This must NEVER happen again.
:peace: and :heart:
Raine
Let's talk about Heroes; let's talk about politics.
Let's talk about how the GOP treats our heroes for a moment. For just a brief moment, let's talk about Max Cleland. In case you did not know, he is a Vietnam vet...He is the honorable and former Senator from the state of Georgia. He did not win re-election and Saxby Chambiss assumed his seat. Basically, he was *swifboated*. The following ad is largely attributed to his *failure* to win his election campaign:
This was the ad that his opponent, Saxby Chambliss ran a few weeks before the election. People keep saying that this was the ad that did him in... I do not agree. Not anymore. This election was stolen. Max--- Mr. Cleland... was swiftboated before the term even existed. No kidding.
We are now finding out that what was a bit suspicious to many Georgians (as well as Thom Hartmann, Greg Palast, and Bev Harris... to name a few) is pretty damn true. Republicans stole that election. Strong charges, I know...
From the Populist in 2003:
Opinion polls in Georgia on the eve of the 2002 general election showed Democratic incumbent Gov. Roy Barnes leading by 9-11 points and Sen. Max Cleland ahead of his Republican challenger by 2-5 points, so it was a shock on election night when the returns showed Barnes losing to Republican Sonny Perdue, 46 to 51 percent, a swing of as much as 16 points from the last opinion polls, and Cleland losing to Saxby Chambliss by 46 to 53 percent, a last-minute swing of 9-12 points. Pundits credited a surge of "angry white men" punishing Barnes for removing the Confederate symbol from the state flag, but the London Independent noted in a special investigative report on Oct. 14 that a demographic breakdown published by the Georgia Secretary of State showed no such surge of white men; the only subgroup showing a modest increase in turnout was black women.
There were also big, puzzling swings in different parts of the state, the Independent noted. In 58 counties, the vote was broadly in line with the primary election. In 27 counties in Republican-dominated north Georgia, however, Cleland unaccountably scored 14 points higher than he had in the primaries. And in 74 counties in the Democrat south, Saxby Chambliss garnered a whopping 22 points more for the Republicans than the party as a whole had won less than three months earlier.
The big difference was that in November 2002 Georgia was the first state in the country to conduct an election entirely with touchscreen voting machines, after lavishing $54 million on a new system that promised to deliver the most secure, most up-to-date, most voter-friendly election in the nation's history. The machines, however, were found to be poorly programmed, full of security holes and prone to tampering. With thousands of similar machines from different companies being introduced at high speed across the country, Andrew Gumbel wrote in the Independent, "computer voting may, in fact, be US democracy's own 21st-century nightmare."
The past fews days have opened up a serious story going on down here in Georgia... it seems as tho the '02 elections REALLY were stolen. A few mentions have been made on our Message Board, but This Story blew me way. Seems as tho the Secretary of State at the time (the same Secretary of State bolded above) knew what was going on.
Georgia Secretary of State Cathy Cox’s office faxed documents to the then-president of Diebold Election Systems Bob Urosevich listing a series of issues that occurred shortly before the November 2002 election.
Documents provided to RAW STORY by a whistleblower close to Cox’s office show that one of the key problems Georgia officials were trying to resolve was related to an unauthorized patch installed on machines prior to the election.
In one document, Cox’s office asked Urosevich for confirmation that a “0808 patch was applied to all systems; confirmation that the patch was not grounds for requiring the system to be recertified at national and state level; as well as verifiable analysis of the overall impact of the patch to the voting system”
Back to Max... Mr. Cleland --- Please keep in mind that Mr. Cleland is not just a Vet... he is a REAL hero. the following is from a man who served with him...
The 2nd of the 12th Cavalry was engaged in a combat operation at the time of this incident. Max Cleland was with the Battalion Forward Command Post in heavy combat involving the attack of the 1st Cavalry Division up the valley to relieve the Marines who were besieged and surrounded at the Khe Shan Firebase. The whole surrounding area was an active combat zone (some might call the entire country of Vietnam a combat zone). (Is Iraq a combat zone?) Max, the Battalion Signal Officer, was engaged in a combat mission I personally ordered to increase the effectiveness of communications between the battalion combat forward and rear support elements: e.g. Erect a radio relay antenna on a mountain top. By the way, at one point the battalion rear elements came under enemy artillery fire so everyone was in harms way.
As they were getting off the helicopter, Max saw the grenade on the ground and he instinctively went for it. Soldiers in combat don't leave grenades lying around on the ground. Later, in the hospital, he said he thought it was his own but I doubt the concept of "ownership" went through his mind in the split seconds involved in reaching for the grenade. Nearly two decades later another soldier came forward and admitted it was actually his grenade. Does ownership of the grenade really matter? It does not.
Maury Cralle'
Battalion Executive Officer
2d/12th Cavalry Battalion
1st Air Cavalry Division
During the assault on Khe Shan
Mr. Cleland lost both legs and his arm. In 2002, he lost his senate seat -- I will say again--- he did not lose -- it was stolen, This is a story about how Republicans treat Vets.This is a story about how Saxby Chambliss, as a representative of the Republican party treats our veterans, and our civil servants. This is how they treat our TRUE heroes. This is a story of power and control and the rest be damned.--- according to the GOP --- Saxby questoned Mr. Cleland's service. Did you know that Saxby NEVER SERVED? The dude isn't even from Georgia... Check THIS out...
John McCain of Arizona said of one ad, "It's worse than disgraceful, it's reprehensible;" Republican Senator Chuck Hagel of Nebraska said the ads were "beyond offensive to me."
Max Cleland did not lose because of a political ad. I propose the media would like you to believe that. To this day... more than 6 years later, they would like you to believe that an ad can make people swing like that...(go back, take a look at those numbers) People are not stupid. Max Cleland didn't lose... his seat in the senate was stolen. The GOP STOLE from a War Hero. THAT is how they treat Vets. They steal from them, and you wonder why John McCain didn't vote for the GI bill. He doesn't consider himself a vet anymore.. He just uses his status as a political toy to dangle to people who think this makes him a hero. He is using those very patriotic Americans. In reality, he has become a Karl Rove Republican, just like Saxby (who, actually started out that way from the gate, thanks to the *patch* and Diebold. Oh btw - he is up for re-election...)
We MUST be vigilant becuase Georgia '02 was a test run. A "beta theft" as it were... Ohio in '04 further pushed the ultimate plan along. We know how they treated another vet (John Kerry) in that election. It would be funny if it wasn't so consequential that John McCain wants his service to not be questioned... he only wants us all to honor it... Well, I don't. I just don't. I respect his service... but I do not honour it. Not when the republicans - his fellow party members - treated Max Cleland the way that they did, not when I know they stole that election. Honorable people don't do that. Honorable people don't treat people that way. And John McCain is not being honorable.
John McCain never talks about what happened to his fellow Vietnam vet, Max Cleland, because John KNOWS that his party will try AGAIN to steal the election.
What he doesn't know is that if we, collectilvely, get out the vote in the massive numbers that we are seeing with the support of the Obama campain no Republican can ever steal our votes again. That is the greatest gift we can give to a man that gave 3 limbs for our country. It is time to do something really heroic; it is time to vote for our true heroes, the ones who truly sacrificed for all of us. It doesn't matter if they served in the military or not, it matters if they fought, lived, died for this country we call the United States of America.
Do it for Max Cleland. Do it for everyone who lived honorably, and truthfully and nobly. Get the vote out. Make voting as viral as a youtube video... be a hero. Ads don't steal elections - the GOP does.
No more stolen elections. This must NEVER happen again.
:peace: and :heart:
Raine
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Comment by 
liam1965 on 07/31/2008 11:13:46
liam1965 on 07/31/2008 11:13:46
Having nothing to do with this entry: How do I see comments older than the ones that show?
I fell asleep early last night and want to review the older comments to see if anyone said anything to me after I dozed off, and I can't seem to figure out how to get the ones old enough that they don't show on the initial page.
I can re-order the comments to see the very OLDEST ones, but then the page size doesn't allow me to see any newer than yesterday morning.
Oh, and good morning, e-mooks and e-mamas and anyone who fits into neither category.
I fell asleep early last night and want to review the older comments to see if anyone said anything to me after I dozed off, and I can't seem to figure out how to get the ones old enough that they don't show on the initial page.
I can re-order the comments to see the very OLDEST ones, but then the page size doesn't allow me to see any newer than yesterday morning.
Oh, and good morning, e-mooks and e-mamas and anyone who fits into neither category.
Comment by liam1965 on 07/31/2008 11:40:17
liam1965 on 07/31/2008 11:40:17
UPDATE(Cue Emily Litella) Nevermind. I finally got it to pop up, which also gave me the option I needed in order to see the comments older than 50 ago. Thanks!
By the way, on a different note, whenever I click on the "Set User Options" button on the left hand side of the screen, the popup window sits for a whil and then gives the "cannot display the web page" message.
FYI.
FYI.
Comment by 
Random on 07/31/2008 11:53:29
Random on 07/31/2008 11:53:29
Good for you Liam.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 12:10:38
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 12:10:38
Morning :hug:
Comment by 
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:16:23
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:16:23
Hey folks!
No assholes yet hu?
Oh wait I'm here....
No assholes yet hu?
Oh wait I'm here....
Comment by liam1965 on 07/31/2008 12:17:14
liam1965 on 07/31/2008 12:17:14
I hope there's at least one, Grumpyman, I seriously need to hit the loo.
(TMI, I know.)
(TMI, I know.)
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:20:12
Hello Liam.
We've not met nut it's nice to meet you!
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:20:12
Quote by liam1965:
I hope there's at least one, Grumpyman, I seriously need to hit the loo.
(TMI, I know.)
Hello Liam.
We've not met nut it's nice to meet you!
Comment by liam1965 on 07/31/2008 12:22:02
liam1965 on 07/31/2008 12:22:02
We've not met nut it's nice to meet you?
NUT?
I, well, resemble that remark.
NUT?
I, well, resemble that remark.
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:24:29
As do i....
But the, NUT, was supposed to be BUT .....
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:24:29
Quote by liam1965:
We've not met nut it's nice to meet you?
NUT?
I, well, resemble that remark.
As do i....
But the, NUT, was supposed to be BUT .....
Comment by 
TriSec on 07/31/2008 12:25:09
TriSec on 07/31/2008 12:25:09
Morning, comrades!
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 12:27:31
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 12:27:31
Grump, two days in a row! :hug:
And I don't think I've met Liam yet either - so welcome to our little corner of the world :D
And I don't think I've met Liam yet either - so welcome to our little corner of the world :D
Comment by TriSec on 07/31/2008 12:28:38
TriSec on 07/31/2008 12:28:38
Say now....one of the definitions of "maverick" is thus:
an independent individual who does not go along with a group or party
So, if you're mainstream enough to possibly get elected president, you're no longer a maverick, right?
Discuss.
an independent individual who does not go along with a group or party
So, if you're mainstream enough to possibly get elected president, you're no longer a maverick, right?
Discuss.
Comment by Random on 07/31/2008 12:30:03
Random on 07/31/2008 12:30:03
™
Hola group, how are my loyal subjects?
Hola group, how are my loyal subjects?
Comment by TriSec on 07/31/2008 12:30:54
To Arms!
To Arms!
The Random is out!
: Paul Revere :
TriSec on 07/31/2008 12:30:54
Quote by Random:
™
Hola group, how are my loyal subjects?
To Arms!
To Arms!
The Random is out!
: Paul Revere :
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 12:33:07
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 12:33:07
Random you do know how to make an enterance
Comment by Random on 07/31/2008 12:33:09
Another Discuss...because i don't know what to say about that one...
How can the Republican's piss and moan about Obama being a Celebrity, but their lord and savior (Ronald Regan) was just that?
Random on 07/31/2008 12:33:09
Quote by TriSec:
Say now....one of the definitions of "maverick" is thus:
an independent individual who does not go along with a group or party
So, if you're mainstream enough to possibly get elected president, you're no longer a maverick, right?
Discuss.
Another Discuss...because i don't know what to say about that one...
How can the Republican's piss and moan about Obama being a Celebrity, but their lord and savior (Ronald Regan) was just that?
Comment by Random on 07/31/2008 12:34:27
Minutes of practice my dear ma'am, minutes of practice...
And watching more than my fair share of movies.
Random on 07/31/2008 12:34:27
Quote by wickedpam:
Random you do know how to make an enterance
Minutes of practice my dear ma'am, minutes of practice...
And watching more than my fair share of movies.
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:34:27
tovarish!
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:34:27
Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades!
tovarish!
Comment by liam1965 on 07/31/2008 12:39:48
liam1965 on 07/31/2008 12:39:48
OK, I guess a short introduction is in order:
I'm Liam. I came from the SMS LiveBlog (well, not originally, originally I came from a zygote created by my Mom & Dad, but I digress), largely because here I can participate in the mornings, at lunch and in the evenings and not during work hours, without feeling like I missed out on anything, like fun topics or jokes or a paycheck after getting fired for lack of productivity.
I'm an Independent centrist-tending-towards-liberal but with fiscal conservative tendencies (in the real sense of the word, as in "if you stop spending and have a surplus, you can cut taxes" not in the sense of "let's see if people will buy it if we tell them cutting taxes on the rich will increase revenues").
I write really godawful humor essays on one of my blogs at http://liamhumor.blogspot.com and horribly uninformed political screeds at http://www.liamjohnson.net, and I have a book of the former that you can look at (but for heaven's sake, don't purchase!) at Amazon under the title "Cue Ball City (and other bald musings)", which I mention because my picture is on the cover, so you can see what I look like.
I have five children, two wives (well, one an ex, I'm no Romney) and three mortgages (on three houses, two are apartment buildings my wife manages).
Other than that, I smell funny, which is why I'm a better friend on line than in person.
I'm Liam. I came from the SMS LiveBlog (well, not originally, originally I came from a zygote created by my Mom & Dad, but I digress), largely because here I can participate in the mornings, at lunch and in the evenings and not during work hours, without feeling like I missed out on anything, like fun topics or jokes or a paycheck after getting fired for lack of productivity.
I'm an Independent centrist-tending-towards-liberal but with fiscal conservative tendencies (in the real sense of the word, as in "if you stop spending and have a surplus, you can cut taxes" not in the sense of "let's see if people will buy it if we tell them cutting taxes on the rich will increase revenues").
I write really godawful humor essays on one of my blogs at http://liamhumor.blogspot.com and horribly uninformed political screeds at http://www.liamjohnson.net, and I have a book of the former that you can look at (but for heaven's sake, don't purchase!) at Amazon under the title "Cue Ball City (and other bald musings)", which I mention because my picture is on the cover, so you can see what I look like.
I have five children, two wives (well, one an ex, I'm no Romney) and three mortgages (on three houses, two are apartment buildings my wife manages).
Other than that, I smell funny, which is why I'm a better friend on line than in person.
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:43:43
Well my dearest Wicked your luck had to run out sooner or later.....
Whats with the new infestation of TROLLFLIES?
Was yesterday the start, an isolated incident or am I going to have to put on my "Naughty boy Pants"?
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:43:43
Quote by wickedpam:
Grump, two days in a row! :hug:
And I don't think I've met Liam yet either - so welcome to our little corner of the world :D
Well my dearest Wicked your luck had to run out sooner or later.....
Whats with the new infestation of TROLLFLIES?
Was yesterday the start, an isolated incident or am I going to have to put on my "Naughty boy Pants"?
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:45:46
Hey Liam love the humor (Very Python ) .
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:45:46
Quote by liam1965:
OK, I guess a short introduction is in order:
I'm Liam. I came from the SMS LiveBlog (well, not originally, originally I came from a zygote created by my Mom & Dad, but I digress), largely because here I can participate in the mornings, at lunch and in the evenings and not during work hours, without feeling like I missed out on anything, like fun topics or jokes or a paycheck after getting fired for lack of productivity.
I'm an Independent centrist-tending-towards-liberal but with fiscal conservative tendencies (in the real sense of the word, as in "if you stop spending and have a surplus, you can cut taxes" not in the sense of "let's see if people will buy it if we tell them cutting taxes on the rich will increase revenues").
I write really godawful humor essays on one of my blogs at http://liamhumor.blogspot.com and horribly uninformed political screeds at http://www.liamjohnson.net, and I have a book of the former that you can look at (but for heaven's sake, don't purchase!) at Amazon under the title "Cue Ball City (and other bald musings)", which I mention because my picture is on the cover, so you can see what I look like.
I have five children, two wives (well, one an ex, I'm no Romney) and three mortgages (on three houses, two are apartment buildings my wife manages).
Other than that, I smell funny, which is why I'm a better friend on line than in person.
Hey Liam love the humor (Very Python ) .
Comment by 
Shane-O on 07/31/2008 12:47:59
Shane-O on 07/31/2008 12:47:59
Good morning all!
Nice to see you over here Liam! (bi-posting? - scamp
)
Nice to see you over here Liam! (bi-posting? - scamp
)
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:49:44
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:49:44
And sense I'm about making new aquanteces (sp?)
Hello Random.
Hello Random.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 12:50:34
It's been a rather long while since we've been trolled . Raine put him in internet timeout for a week. Hope he doesn't come back.
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 12:50:34
Quote by Grumpymann:Quote by wickedpam:
Grump, two days in a row! :hug:
And I don't think I've met Liam yet either - so welcome to our little corner of the world :D
Well my dearest Wicked your luck had to run out sooner or later.....
Whats with the new infestation of TROLLFLIES?
Was yesterday the start, an isolated incident or am I going to have to put on my "Naughty boy Pants"?
It's been a rather long while since we've been trolled . Raine put him in internet timeout for a week. Hope he doesn't come back.
Comment by TriSec on 07/31/2008 12:52:47
TriSec on 07/31/2008 12:52:47
Hey Liam, we've got this thread over on the message board with more introductions....
You'll need a separate registration to post there, but it can be the same as the blog...
You'll need a separate registration to post there, but it can be the same as the blog...
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 12:53:49
Very cool Liam. Glad your here. I swear I get to know more writers online then I have in RL, I love the internet
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 12:53:49
Quote by liam1965:
OK, I guess a short introduction is in order:
I'm Liam. I came from the SMS LiveBlog (well, not originally, originally I came from a zygote created by my Mom & Dad, but I digress), largely because here I can participate in the mornings, at lunch and in the evenings and not during work hours, without feeling like I missed out on anything, like fun topics or jokes or a paycheck after getting fired for lack of productivity.
I'm an Independent centrist-tending-towards-liberal but with fiscal conservative tendencies (in the real sense of the word, as in "if you stop spending and have a surplus, you can cut taxes" not in the sense of "let's see if people will buy it if we tell them cutting taxes on the rich will increase revenues").
I write really godawful humor essays on one of my blogs at http://liamhumor.blogspot.com and horribly uninformed political screeds at http://www.liamjohnson.net, and I have a book of the former that you can look at (but for heaven's sake, don't purchase!) at Amazon under the title "Cue Ball City (and other bald musings)", which I mention because my picture is on the cover, so you can see what I look like.
I have five children, two wives (well, one an ex, I'm no Romney) and three mortgages (on three houses, two are apartment buildings my wife manages).
Other than that, I smell funny, which is why I'm a better friend on line than in person.
Very cool Liam. Glad your here. I swear I get to know more writers online then I have in RL, I love the internet
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:54:31
Oh he will, (Come back that is). In some form or another.....
Say has anyone heard from or about Bat?
He said he was "Shipping out in May" I hope all is well with him.
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:54:31
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Grumpymann:Quote by wickedpam:
Grump, two days in a row! :hug:
And I don't think I've met Liam yet either - so welcome to our little corner of the world :D
Well my dearest Wicked your luck had to run out sooner or later.....
Whats with the new infestation of TROLLFLIES?
Was yesterday the start, an isolated incident or am I going to have to put on my "Naughty boy Pants"?
It's been a rather long while since we've been trolled . Raine put him in internet timeout for a week. Hope he doesn't come back.
Oh he will, (Come back that is). In some form or another.....
Say has anyone heard from or about Bat?
He said he was "Shipping out in May" I hope all is well with him.
Comment by Random on 07/31/2008 12:56:07
Hello Grumpy, incase you're wondering, Yes, I am the blog diety.
™
Random on 07/31/2008 12:56:07
Quote by Grumpymann:
And sense I'm about making new aquanteces (sp?)
Hello Random.
Hello Grumpy, incase you're wondering, Yes, I am the blog diety.
™
Comment by liam1965 on 07/31/2008 12:57:40
liam1965 on 07/31/2008 12:57:40
Well, that's it for my morning participation, gotta pay attention to the office now.
See y'all at lunch or after work!
Liam.
See y'all at lunch or after work!
Liam.
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:58:31
I bow in the general direction of you bloggy godishness......
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:58:31
Quote by Random:Quote by Grumpymann:
And sense I'm about making new aquanteces (sp?)
Hello Random.
Hello Grumpy, incase you're wondering, Yes, I am the blog diety.
™
I bow in the general direction of you bloggy godishness......
Comment by liam1965 on 07/31/2008 12:58:57
liam1965 on 07/31/2008 12:58:57
By the way, I did post something on-topic this morning (aka related to Georgia being stolen) comparing to Ohio in 2004 and wondering if we'll ever have proof there, but I got an error out of the blog when posting it, and it was long and I got frustrated and didn't reconstruct it.
But just in case anyone thinks I'm NEVER on topic, I am, the universe just conspires not to let it be seen. ;-)
But just in case anyone thinks I'm NEVER on topic, I am, the universe just conspires not to let it be seen. ;-)
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:59:54
When the inmates run the asylum
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:59:54
The Department of Health and Human Services is reviewing a draft regulation that would deny federal funding to any hospital, clinic, health plan or other entity that does not accommodate employees who want to opt out of participating in care that runs counter to their personal convictions, including providing birth-control pills, IUDs and the Plan B emergency contraceptive.
When the inmates run the asylum
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 13:04:04
capt on 07/31/2008 13:04:04
Good Morning!
Great post. The SOB's will steal this election too if they can. We can't ever (never never never) think for a pico-second these GOPhers have any honor or honesty.
We have to remember they can wiretap all phone calls, read all emails, sneak and peek without warrants, they have Diebold ES&S and all secret vote counting processes, they have all five multinational that own all cable news-o-tainment, they have fixers and push-polling, caging lists and disenfranchisement.
We are not up against a party - we are up against an election stealing machine.
We have to kill them by the numbers - we have to swamp them with the impossibility of their dreams. We have to be so big and huge and numerous that they cannot win by cheating and lying and stealing.
It is not going to be easy, they stole all that and we have to win it back fair and square because we are better than they are, we are better than they can ever be.
Great post. The SOB's will steal this election too if they can. We can't ever (never never never) think for a pico-second these GOPhers have any honor or honesty.
We have to remember they can wiretap all phone calls, read all emails, sneak and peek without warrants, they have Diebold ES&S and all secret vote counting processes, they have all five multinational that own all cable news-o-tainment, they have fixers and push-polling, caging lists and disenfranchisement.
We are not up against a party - we are up against an election stealing machine.
We have to kill them by the numbers - we have to swamp them with the impossibility of their dreams. We have to be so big and huge and numerous that they cannot win by cheating and lying and stealing.
It is not going to be easy, they stole all that and we have to win it back fair and square because we are better than they are, we are better than they can ever be.
You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty.
~ Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948)
Comment by Shane-O on 07/31/2008 13:04:14
Shane-O on 07/31/2008 13:04:14
I am very cranky today because the only Progressive radio station in the Rochester area, WROC 950 am (which carries all our favs), is switching formats to all sports tomorrow. 
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 13:07:10
It's not a "party" it's the mob.
And yes you can quote me.
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 13:07:10
Quote by capt:
Good Morning!
Great post. The SOB's will steal this election too if they can. We can't ever (never never never) think for a pico-second these GOPhers have any honor or honesty.
We have to remember they can wiretap all phone calls, read all emails, sneak and peek without warrants, they have Diebold ES&S and all secret vote counting processes, they have all five multinational that own all cable news-o-tainment, they have fixers and push-polling, caging lists and disenfranchisement.
We are not up against a party - we are up against an election stealing machine.
We have to kill them by the numbers - we have to swamp them with the impossibility of their dreams. We have to be so big and huge and numerous that they cannot win by cheating and lying and stealing.
It is not going to be easy, they stole all that and we have to win it back fair and square because we are better than they are, we are better than they can ever be.You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty.
~ Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948)
It's not a "party" it's the mob.
And yes you can quote me.
Comment by Random on 07/31/2008 13:10:02
So good to have loyal subjects.
Random on 07/31/2008 13:10:02
Quote by Grumpymann:Quote by Random:Quote by Grumpymann:
And sense I'm about making new aquanteces (sp?)
Hello Random.
Hello Grumpy, incase you're wondering, Yes, I am the blog diety.
™
I bow in the general direction of you bloggy godishness......
So good to have loyal subjects.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 13:10:23
That seems to happen alot.
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 13:10:23
Quote by Shane-O:
I am very cranky today because the only Progressive radio station in the Rochester area, WROC 950 am (which carries all our favs), is switching formats to all sports tomorrow.
That seems to happen alot.
Comment by TriSec on 07/31/2008 13:14:38
TriSec on 07/31/2008 13:14:38
Does Clear Channel own your station?
They did that in Boston. We had a low-wattage lefty station, they even filed a permit to construct a new antenna and go up to 10,000 watts.
As soon as the permit was approved, the format mysteriously 'flipped' to Latin/Salsa/Spanish.
Funny, that.
Of course, this was not long afterMitt Romney Bain Capital bought Clear Channel...
They did that in Boston. We had a low-wattage lefty station, they even filed a permit to construct a new antenna and go up to 10,000 watts.
As soon as the permit was approved, the format mysteriously 'flipped' to Latin/Salsa/Spanish.
Funny, that.
Of course, this was not long after
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 13:15:31
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 13:15:31
DJ - :spit:
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 13:20:14
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 13:20:14
"putting on airs" hmmm - more code speak....
Comment by Shane-O on 07/31/2008 13:23:17
Shane-O on 07/31/2008 13:23:17
Entercom owns the station -- and of course inquiries about the process were referred by the local station to them - nothing like dealing with huge media corporations - so people-friendly 
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 13:29:32
No doubt.
capt on 07/31/2008 13:29:32
Quote by Grumpymann:
It's not a "party" it's the mob.
And yes you can quote me.
No doubt.
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 13:34:30
If this was an Obama ad two months ago? Presumption doesn't begin to describe. . .
capt on 07/31/2008 13:34:30
If this was an Obama ad two months ago? Presumption doesn't begin to describe. . .
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 13:35:37
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 13:35:37
Like I said - it's all candy coated code.
Comment by Shane-O on 07/31/2008 13:35:48
Shane-O on 07/31/2008 13:35:48
I think 
meant Shell? Not Exxon-Mobil??
meant Shell? Not Exxon-Mobil??
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 13:36:25
capt on 07/31/2008 13:36:25
Obama owns Exxon? He is making way too much off the oil companies . . .
Wait a minute Obama doesn't own Exxon.
Nevermind.
Wait a minute Obama doesn't own Exxon.
Nevermind.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 13:36:36
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 13:36:36
Thom was talking yesterday about Gingrich's "Drill here, Drill now" petition. We need a Use it or Lose it petition to counter.
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 13:38:23
Exxon! Closing gas stations because the stations aren't profitable enough . .
capt on 07/31/2008 13:38:23
HOUSTON — Exxon Mobil reported second-quarter earnings of $11.68 billion Thursday, the biggest quarterly profit ever by any U.S. corporation, but the results fell well short of Wall Street expectations and shares fell in premarket trading.
The world's largest publicly traded oil company said net income for the April-June period came to $2.22 a share, up from $10.26 billion, or $1.83 a share, a year ago.
Exxon! Closing gas stations because the stations aren't profitable enough . .
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 13:41:38
capt on 07/31/2008 13:41:38
I posted yesterday about my take that the pretty white girls juxaposed with the black guy is a racist ploy to drive concerns about the scary black guy coming for the white women.
Maybe I'm reading too much into it.
Maybe I'm reading too much into it.
Comment by 
livingonli on 07/31/2008 13:42:02
livingonli on 07/31/2008 13:42:02
Good morning everyone. 
Great blog, Raine. Hope everyone signed Kucinich's impeachment petition.
Listening to the right-wing callers indicate like our troll that they are getting all scrambly and desperate.
Great blog, Raine. Hope everyone signed Kucinich's impeachment petition.
Listening to the right-wing callers indicate like our troll that they are getting all scrambly and desperate.