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Author: clintster    Date: 08/14/2008 12:02:54

Back in the year 1996, Al Franken wrote a book entitled “Rush Limbaugh Is A Big Fat Idiot: And Other Observations” When it was released, many right wingers, including the very prominently named Mr. Limbaugh decried it as an attack and a smear campaign. Were one to read the book, however, the reader would find that in and amongst the many jokes about Rush’s weight, his several divorces, and his out and out lies, that Franken was in fact attempting to throw a satirical light upon what was quickly becoming standard operating procedure for the right wing: building liberal straw-men to knock down at will.

Indeed, Franken mentioned in many interviews that his book was not so much about making jokes at Limbaugh’s expense as it was about bemoaning the loss of civility in public discourse. Increasingly, especially amongst conservatives, it seemed that one had to pass an ideological purity test in order to be considered “one of us”. Those who harbored different opinions on one or two subjects were immediately looked upon as “unclean” and cast aside. In his own way, Al Franken may have hoped to mend that rift in civility and bring some sort of common sense back to political discourse. Unfortunately, it seems as if the body politic has taken those sutures and torn them asunder for the sake of convenience.

Two incidents over the past couple of weeks have underscored the seething current of violence that bubbles beneath the surface in our modern politically-oriented society.

CASE ONE: Late last month, the congregation at the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church in Knoxville were preparing to celebrate Sunday with a children’s performance of the musical “Annie Jr.” A man named David Adkisson entered the sanctuary carrying a guitar case. The UUs, being the accepting people they are, assumed he had come in to join and maybe pick some guitar for the service. Instead, Adkisson reached into the case and pulled out a shotgun, firing into the congregation. Greg McKendry stepped between Adkisson and his other targets, receiving the full brunt of the blast. Another parishioner was struck and later died. More members rose from their pews and wrestled Adkisson to the ground, holding him until police arrived. In all, two people were murdered and seven others were injured.

Adkisson, who had recently had his food stamps benefits reduced, had apparently expected to be killed by the police after the confrontation, as he left a note explaining his actions in his vehicle. He targeted the church specifically for its “liberal” viewpoints and its acceptance of gays and lesbians. A search of his house revealed a selection of books by a variety of conservative authors, including “Liberalism is a Mental Disorder” by Michael Savage, and “Let Freedom Ring: Winning the War of Liberty Over Liberalism”

CASE TWO: Yesterday a man walked into the Arkansas state headquarters of the Democratic Party, claiming to want to volunteer for the upcoming campaign. He said he wanted to meet Bill Gwatney, the state party chairman. When he was refused, Timothy Johnson pushed through to Gwatney’s office, introduced himself to Gwatney and shot him several times with a handgun. Johnson led police on a 30-mile chase before he himself was shot and killed.

In between the murder and the chase, Johnson had fled into the nearby headquarters of the Arkansas Baptist Association, and pulled a gun on a clerk there. When asked what had gone wrong, Johnson only replied that he had recently lost his job. While it may not have been politically motivated, it is interesting to note that Johnson chose to shoot the chairman of the state Democratic Party.

Two cases of lower-income Americans taking out their frustrations in a most violent manner. Three people dead, apparently for nothing more than ideology. It is also worth noting that the Knoxville shootings were replaced very quickly on the front pages after it happened. The shooting in Little Rock, which might have been a lead at another time and were it another party headquarters, is already being buried under coverage of the Olympics and the Georgian conflict. In a land where discourse has degraded so precipitously, it is difficult not to imagine something of a more deadly and earth-shaking nature happening between now and November.

The question is, do we as Americans have the wherewithal to see what has happened here and prevent such a major tragedy from occurring? Maybe we can’t change the course of civility overnight, but perhaps we can find a way to dam the river before the flood washes us all away, regardless of political stripe.

 

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Comment by wickedpam on 08/14/2008 12:12:58
Morning :hug:



Comment by TriSec on 08/14/2008 12:23:10
Listening to Keith's Podcast...



CW seems to indicate Joe Biden on the ticket.



And he's brought up something brilliant...if it is Biden, Keith is expecting the Republicans to bring up the plagiarism allegation from the '88 campaign. (remember that?)



Obama has a ready-made weapon there...."Ok, Senator McCain, if you want to bring up things that happened in the 80s, let's talk about the Keating Five...."



TRMS: NICE!



Morning, BTW!





Comment by wickedpam on 08/14/2008 12:32:19
TBH - when I hear the name Biden the first thing that comes to mind is the plagarism stuff. I just remember the news making such a huge deal about it.



But it is a brilliant way to bring up things like the Keating 5

Comment by velveeta jones on 08/14/2008 12:48:34
CLINSTER!!



Great post. I wasn't feeling to well this morning. But you have inspired me to get over my "lazy self".







"Barkeep, MORE coffee over here!"



Comment by m-hadley on 08/14/2008 12:49:36
Mornin' Everybodee :coffee:

:hug: & :peace:

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by TriSec on 08/14/2008 12:57:32
Another gem from Keith last night...



GW has spent about 450 days of his presidency in Crawford, and a similar number at Camp David.



So, he's spent about 900 days on vacation in those spots alone. (not counting things like visiting the Olympics and other days off...)



He's been president 8 years, or 2,920 days.



So, he's been on vacation for 30% of that time.



Or, put another way, he's been on vacation for 109 days out of every year in office.





Won't it be nice to have a working president next time? Hell, I don't think even Senator McCain would take that amount of time off...





Comment by TriSec on 08/14/2008 12:59:56
Quote by velveeta jones:



"Barkeep, MORE coffee over here!"







http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07BZ9r83ub8BF/340x.jpg


Comment by velveeta jones on 08/14/2008 13:09:34
Yeah Tri! THAT's what I'm talking about!! Yummy!



[zombie] c-o-f-f-e-e [/zombie]

Comment by wickedpam on 08/14/2008 13:10:17
Red Dawn jokes :spit:

Comment by wickedpam on 08/14/2008 13:10:38
I actually like that dumb movie

Comment by clintster on 08/14/2008 13:14:03
Speaking of reckless conservative movies:



An American Carol being released in October. Gird your loins.

Comment by wickedpam on 08/14/2008 13:14:39
I have to turn down my speakers when they play that

Comment by TriSec on 08/14/2008 13:27:55
Is it OK for me to still read Tom Clancy, even though I knew he was a right-winger from the beginning?



(Remember, he came to prominence mostly because Pres. Reagan liked "Hunt for Red October" back in the day...)





Comment by livingonli on 08/14/2008 13:31:40
Good morning everyone.



Headline News just had a commercial with Ronnie Detsch.

Comment by Malmo_Blue on 08/14/2008 13:34:37
Top of the morning, y'all! Eventhough it's afternoon over here. :p

Comment by livingonli on 08/14/2008 13:35:51
Hello there. Malmo. How are things in your part of the world?

Comment by TriSec on 08/14/2008 13:37:37
Never mind the right-wing claptrap, you could always read this book about Obama...



(original link via Blue Mass Group)





Comment by wickedpam on 08/14/2008 13:38:46
Hi Liv



Hey Malmo - where ya at? You one of them fancy Europeans? :p

Comment by Malmo_Blue on 08/14/2008 13:39:25
Quote by livingonli:

Hello there. Malmo. How are things in your part of the world?


Reading about a Swede who was ripped off during the Olympic wrestling, who eventually threw away his bronze medal during the medal ceremony. Anyhow, that makes it three medals so far. :D



wickedpam - Oh yeah, I'm VERY fancy pants. ;)

Comment by livingonli on 08/14/2008 13:40:09
Morning Mala. How's the weather in DC?

Comment by wickedpam on 08/14/2008 13:42:44
Weather today is comfortable

Comment by livingonli on 08/14/2008 13:43:08
So Bill-O you going to tell us again how you don't follow the Republican talking points?

Comment by wickedpam on 08/14/2008 13:44:47
Hm - then we shall all have to don our best sunday go to meetin' clothes to be impressive :D

Comment by Scoopster on 08/14/2008 13:45:07
Morning all... Ugh what a rough day yesterday - I didn't get a chance to do ANY blogging at all anywhere, plus I didn't sleep well the past two days, plus I've had an earache for what seems like a week (probably the reason I can't sleep).

Comment by TriSec on 08/14/2008 13:46:08
You know, I support medical procedures on demand...



Whether or not those procedures violate your own morals are for you and your creator to decide...





Comment by starling310 on 08/14/2008 13:47:53
Morning everyone.



:star: had some bad shrimp on Monday and was down for the count until yesterday.





That's what I get for being a Flexitarian, who still eats crustaceans.



Comment by wickedpam on 08/14/2008 13:50:18
Ick - hope your feeling better now

Comment by wickedpam on 08/14/2008 13:51:41
what happened?

Comment by Scoopster on 08/14/2008 13:52:32
Mmmm shrimp are yummy, most of the time. Not too good for your arteries tho i hear..

Comment by TriSec on 08/14/2008 13:54:24
Ewww.



TriSec has one issue with ocean food....scallops. I like 'em, but they don't like me, if you catch my meaning.



There must be close proximity to porcelain facilities, otherwise there's going to be an unfortunate incident, should I accidentally eat one.



I skimmed the news; there was a red-tide outbreak back about mid-July. Sure hope your shrimp was fresher than that, but that could explain much...







Comment by starling310 on 08/14/2008 13:56:53
Quote by TriSec:

Ewww.



TriSec has one issue with ocean food....scallops. I like 'em, but they don't like me, if you catch my meaning.



There must be close proximity to porcelain facilities, otherwise there's going to be an unfortunate incident, should I accidentally eat one.



I skimmed the news; there was a red-tide outbreak back about mid-July. Sure hope your shrimp was fresher than that, but that could explain much...









Ew...I don't like scallops!



They were fresh. And, my friend Tim did them up on the grill, spicy and yummy.

That was Monday around 8pm.

By 3 am, I was yackin' all over the place.





Comment by livingonli on 08/14/2008 14:01:35
Hi That sucks. Missed you on the blog and glad you're back.

Comment by TriSec on 08/14/2008 14:02:16
I would only eat a scallop if I saw it in the shell....I used to fish; I know some of the less-than-honest types would pull up a skate and punch circles out of their wings with a cookie-cutter and sell that as 'scallops'.



Never mind the scallop; what is your stance on belly clams? Or tomalley, for that matter?





Comment by starling310 on 08/14/2008 14:02:30
Thanks Liv.





Comment by starling310 on 08/14/2008 14:05:06
Quote by TriSec:

I would only eat a scallop if I saw it in the shell....I used to fish; I know some of the less-than-honest types would pull up a skate and punch circles out of their wings with a cookie-cutter and sell that as 'scallops'.



Never mind the scallop; what is your stance on belly clams? Or tomalley, for that matter?







Ewwww....really?!?!?



Lemme put it this way. The only seafood I don't like are scallops. Everything else? Bring it on.



Of course the more research I do about eating animals and the food industry in general, the more I am trying to stop eating seafood and dairy as well.

Those are much harder than giving up meat!





Comment by livingonli on 08/14/2008 14:09:11
Malmo, you still here? Join the conversation.

Comment by Scoopster on 08/14/2008 14:10:25
In an item not related to my own personal lack of sleep..



Final Fantasy Online uber-boss still not beaten even after 18 epic hours of battle..

Comment by wickedpam on 08/14/2008 14:12:57
Quote by Scoopster:

In an item not related to my own personal lack of sleep..



Final Fantasy Online uber-boss still not beaten even after 18 epic hours of battle..




18 hours! I get pissed of when I can't beat something after the 5th try and hour



Comment by Malmo_Blue on 08/14/2008 14:14:47
Quote by livingonli:

Malmo, you still here? Join the conversation.


I'm here - just writing in a little stuff. Conversation's about ocean food? Ah, I'm a vegetarian so I don't worry too much about fishes and shrimps and whatnot.



We need a pizza icon here. Only cheese for me. :)

Comment by livingonli on 08/14/2008 14:18:13
Mmmm....pizza.

Comment by velveeta jones on 08/14/2008 14:18:23
Quote by clintster:

Speaking of reckless conservative movies:



An American Carol being released in October. Gird your loins.


Lovely! <_<



Nice white cast - representing "AmeriKKKa" I suppose. All except for a bit part "Security Guard #1".



What an asshat!



Comment by wickedpam on 08/14/2008 14:18:36
Quote by Malmo_Blue:

Quote by livingonli:

Malmo, you still here? Join the conversation.


I'm here - just writing in a little stuff. Conversation's about ocean food? Ah, I'm a vegetarian so I don't worry too much about fishes and shrimps and whatnot.



We need a pizza icon here. Only cheese for me. :)




we have & along with

Comment by TriSec on 08/14/2008 14:21:02
Say now, here's something I bet you didn't know about nightingales...



The Nightingale is the national bird of Iran.



So, I'd be curious to know if the gentleman massaging poop into American's faces is *really* Asian, or maybe he could be an Iranian in disguise...



Watch this Ahmed, I will rub poop on American women!!!

Comment by Malmo_Blue on 08/14/2008 14:23:04
Quote by clintster:

Speaking of reckless conservative movies:



An American Carol being released in October. Gird your loins.


An anti-American filmmaker who's out to abolish the July Fourth holiday is visited by three ghosts who try to show him the country's good sides.



Yeah, you can shoot and kill the chair of the Arkansas Democrats and yet Michelle Malkin will declare you a hero! Or you can be a member of the Ku Klux Klan and still get the #3-rated radio show! (I'm talking to you, Savage.)



I have a feeling this movie is going to be a right-wing -fest of "are you an American or a liberal" BS. Is it November yet?

Comment by starling310 on 08/14/2008 14:26:02
Quote by Malmo_Blue:

Quote by livingonli:

Malmo, you still here? Join the conversation.


I'm here - just writing in a little stuff. Conversation's about ocean food? Ah, I'm a vegetarian so I don't worry too much about fishes and shrimps and whatnot.



We need a pizza icon here. Only cheese for me. :)




I hear that!



:bump:



Of course the more research I do about eating animals and the food industry in general, the more I am trying to stop eating seafood and dairy as well.

Those are much harder than giving up meat!




I call myself a "flexatarian" but I seem to be gravitating more towards a vegan.

Actually, I was thinking about it the other day....I want to write a book called "Happy Food." Because, for me it's not about the food itself; it's about the conditions the animals are kept in and what is done to them.

For example, I will eat eggs but ONLY if they are from my friend Nine...she's got 6 chickens who wander around the backyard. They are very happy chickens, and are in no way forced to lay eggs.





Comment by livingonli on 08/14/2008 14:30:18
Quote by Malmo_Blue:

Quote by clintster:

Speaking of reckless conservative movies:



An American Carol being released in October. Gird your loins.


An anti-American filmmaker who's out to abolish the July Fourth holiday is visited by three ghosts who try to show him the country's good sides.



Yeah, you can shoot and kill the chair of the Arkansas Democrats and yet Michelle Malkin will declare you a hero! Or you can be a member of the Ku Klux Klan and still get the #3-rated radio show! (I'm talking to you, Savage.)



I have a feeling this movie is going to be a right-wing -fest of "are you an American or a liberal" BS. Is it November yet?


And now the guy responsible for Airplane and The Naked Gun films has decided to create this right-wing turd piece. It looks like it's going to be really bad and not funny.



It seems like anyone who was funny once they become right-wing they are no longer funny.

Comment by Malmo_Blue on 08/14/2008 14:34:30
Quote by livingonli:

And now the guy responsible for Airplane and The Naked Gun films has decided to create this right-wing turd piece. It looks like it's going to be really bad and not funny.



It seems like anyone who was funny once they become right-wing they are no longer funny.


Oh, why do I think of Dennis Miller when I read that?



MILLER: Critics of the president's speech have pointed out that he repeatedly mispronounced the name "Abu Ghraib prison." Hey, I'll worry about how the president says "Abu Ghraib" when someone in the Arab world learns to pronounce the word "democracy," OK? [6/4/04]





Comment by velveeta jones on 08/14/2008 14:37:53
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Malmo_Blue:

Quote by clintster:

Speaking of reckless conservative movies:



An American Carol being released in October. Gird your loins.


An anti-American filmmaker who's out to abolish the July Fourth holiday is visited by three ghosts who try to show him the country's good sides.



Yeah, you can shoot and kill the chair of the Arkansas Democrats and yet Michelle Malkin will declare you a hero! Or you can be a member of the Ku Klux Klan and still get the #3-rated radio show! (I'm talking to you, Savage.)



I have a feeling this movie is going to be a right-wing -fest of "are you an American or a liberal" BS. Is it November yet?


And now the guy responsible for Airplane and The Naked Gun films has decided to create this right-wing turd piece. It looks like it's going to be really bad and not funny.



It seems like anyone who was funny once they become right-wing they are no longer funny.


Frankly, I'm shocked that James Woods is in this!!



Comment by Scoopster on 08/14/2008 14:38:11
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Scoopster:

In an item not related to my own personal lack of sleep..



Final Fantasy Online uber-boss still not beaten even after 18 epic hours of battle..


18 hours! I get pissed of when I can't beat something after the 5th try and hour


I wouldn't mind a good, hard boss fight that took a couple hours as long as I got a chance to hit the pause button or save occasionally. You don't get that in an online game - you have to stick it out with your team wrecking your health and sanity, or have a large group that spans several world time zones (which is tough if you don't know some Japanese).

Comment by starling310 on 08/14/2008 14:39:00
Cheezus...John McCain sounds like he's constantly on the verge of

Comment by livingonli on 08/14/2008 14:46:07
Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Malmo_Blue:

Quote by clintster:

Speaking of reckless conservative movies:



An American Carol being released in October. Gird your loins.


An anti-American filmmaker who's out to abolish the July Fourth holiday is visited by three ghosts who try to show him the country's good sides.



Yeah, you can shoot and kill the chair of the Arkansas Democrats and yet Michelle Malkin will declare you a hero! Or you can be a member of the Ku Klux Klan and still get the #3-rated radio show! (I'm talking to you, Savage.)



I have a feeling this movie is going to be a right-wing -fest of "are you an American or a liberal" BS. Is it November yet?


And now the guy responsible for Airplane and The Naked Gun films has decided to create this right-wing turd piece. It looks like it's going to be really bad and not funny.



It seems like anyone who was funny once they become right-wing they are no longer funny.


Frankly, I'm shocked that James Woods is in this!!



After 9/11. James Woods said in an interview that he suspected someone else on his flight was a terrorist. He has also said other things to indicate that he is a righ-wing Republican. I still wonder how Dennis Hopper went from being a radical hippie to a right-wing Republican.

Comment by BobR on 08/14/2008 14:48:27
morning folks... :coffee:



Just back from my Dr. appt and walking the dog...

Comment by Malmo_Blue on 08/14/2008 14:50:00
Well, I'll be heading to Mom now for some dinner - rock y'all later!

Comment by wickedpam on 08/14/2008 14:50:42
Later Malmo!

Comment by BobR on 08/14/2008 14:52:44
Regarding that American Carol movie - considering that it's listed as a comedy, is it a certainty that it's right-wing? It could be poking fun at the right-wing's idea about what the countey's good sides are - or - it could choose those three things very sarcastically...

Comment by livingonli on 08/14/2008 14:54:00
Have fun over there, Malmo.

Comment by starling310 on 08/14/2008 14:54:06
Dinner? Where is Malmo located? Germany? England?





Comment by BobR on 08/14/2008 14:54:09
Quote by Malmo_Blue:

Well, I'll be heading to Mom now for some dinner - rock y'all later!


BobR and Malmo - ships passing in the night...

Comment by BobR on 08/14/2008 14:55:15
Quote by starling310:

Dinner? Where is Malmo located? Germany? England?





Sweden

Comment by wickedpam on 08/14/2008 14:55:16
Quote by starling310:

Dinner? Where is Malmo located? Germany? England?









I believe Sweden was alluded to

Comment by starling310 on 08/14/2008 14:57:24
Quote by BobR:

Quote by starling310:

Dinner? Where is Malmo located? Germany? England?





Sweden




That was going to be my next guess!



I Swedes.



Comment by TriSec on 08/14/2008 15:05:32
Apropo to Nothing:



Barack has to win the presidency. To whit:



Clinton: Sex

Bush: Drugs

Obama: Rock and Roll!









Comment by TriSec on 08/14/2008 15:08:11
Sloganizer is at it again...



«Obama - The Revolution.»



«McCain - be prepared.»



«Denver, you've got it!»



«I lost weight with Minneapolis.»



«The Future is your friend.»



«01/20/09 is forever.»

Comment by velveeta jones on 08/14/2008 15:13:07
Hey gang........... as you probably know, the puma's (petty unimaginative mis-guided assholes -Hillary supporters for McCain, who claim NOT to be racist - whatever) have been all over that "fake" Obama birth certificate! (Ya know, he's not a real American).



Well, guess who they think might want to "investigate" this? Here's a snippet from their blog. Set your coffee down first- and keep in mind this is supposed to be from a ....... DEMOCRAT:



:rofl:



I was watching Fox earlier and they had the Senior Reporter on from The National Enquirer, Alexander Hitchen, whom I believe broke the Edwards story. I am going to see if I can find a contact number and ask him to look into the fake BC matter.


Comment by wickedpam on 08/14/2008 15:18:04
Pidgeon

Comment by TriSec on 08/14/2008 15:30:04
Oh, come on. Star Wars already has a gay character...



http://swg.stratics.com/content/lore/personas/images/c3po.jpg


Comment by wickedpam on 08/14/2008 15:30:46
is everyone looking at the picture on page 3?

Comment by wickedpam on 08/14/2008 15:38:40
ya know of all the people, I am least surprised that Julia Child was a spy

Comment by TriSec on 08/14/2008 15:39:02
Oh, please. The news about the late Julia Child is not new.



Everyone around here knew she worked for the OSS during WWII.



What's potentially interesting is the detail, as that's what has just been de-classified.





Comment by Will in Chicago on 08/14/2008 15:46:25
Good morning, bloggers! Starling, I am glad that you are feeling better.



Here is some news for you: Clinton’s Name Will Be Put in Nomination



The UNN Daily Headlines are up.

Comment by starling310 on 08/14/2008 16:03:21
Comment by TriSec on 08/14/2008 16:05:17
Maybe there was a file in the cake?



WASHINGTON—Before Julia Child became known to the world as a leading chef, she admitted at least one failing when applying for a job as a spy: impulsiveness.



At 28 as an advertising manager at W&J Sloane furniture store in Beverly Hills, Calif., Child clashed with new store managers and left her job abruptly.



"I made a tactical error and was out," she explained in a handwritten note attached to her application to join the Office of Strategic Services, a World War II-era spy agency. "However, I learned a lot about advertising and wish I had been older and more experienced so that I could have handled the situation, as it was a most interesting position."



Child was not yet married and was applying for the job under her maiden name, McWilliams, according to previously top-secret records released by the National Archives on Thursday. She was hired in the summer of 1942 for clerical work with the intelligence agency and later worked directly for OSS Director William Donovan, the personnel records show.

*snip*

The OSS files offer details about other agents, including Supreme Court Justice Arthur Goldberg, major league catcher Moe Berg, historian Arthur Schlesinger Jr. and film actor Sterling Hayden.



Other notables identified in the files include John Hemingway, son of author Ernest Hemingway; Kermit Roosevelt, son of President Theodore Roosevelt; and Miles Copeland, father of Stewart Copeland, drummer for the band The Police.



More at the link.



Comment by starling310 on 08/14/2008 16:14:50
:cry: <---- Thom's Guest

Oh, won't someone please think of the children?!

Comment by livingonli on 08/14/2008 16:22:02
Quote by starling310:

:cry: <---- Thom's Guest

Oh, won't someone please think of the children?!


Sex is dirty and icky and you shouldn't have it.

Comment by m-hadley on 08/14/2008 16:23:00
Quote by starling310:

Morning everyone.



:star: had some bad shrimp on Monday and was down for the count until yesterday.





That's what I get for being a Flexitarian, who still eats crustaceans.





Welcome Back Roomie,

We all missed you and are super glad that you are back with us :P

Cheers,

mfaye & :airhump:



Comment by starling310 on 08/14/2008 16:24:37
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by starling310:

Morning everyone.



:star: had some bad shrimp on Monday and was down for the count until yesterday.





That's what I get for being a Flexitarian, who still eats crustaceans.





Thanks Roomie!





Welcome Back Roomie,

We all missed you and are super glad that you are back with us :P

Cheers,

mfaye & :airhump:





Comment by livingonli on 08/14/2008 16:26:32
David Zucker is a Con according to his Wikipedia entry.



A campaign contributions search for Zucker, once a longtime liberal Democrat, shows his first right-leaning contribution as US$2647 to ClubforGrowth.NET, a website which hosts political videos including his initial anti-Kerry video.[5] Further using campaign donations as a guide, his brother Jerry apparently continues to identify as a Democrat.[6] On October 10, 2006, the Drudge Report published a link to a political ad Zucker produced and later appeared on Youtube.[7] In a quote from a Drudge Report exclusive:

“ In the ad, Zucker....recreates former Clinton Secretary of State Madeleine Albright's 2000 visit to North Korea. During the visit, Secretary Albright presented North Korean dictator Kim Jong Il with a basketball autographed by former NBA superstar Michael Jordan.



Actress Adele Stasilli-Fernandez, playing Albright, is shown presenting Kim Jong Il with the Michael Jordan basketball, painting the walls of Osama bin Laden's Afghanistan cave and turning a blind eye to suicide bombers. In one scene, her skirt rips as she changes the tire of a Middle Eastern dictator's limousine.



One GOP strategist said "jaws dropped" when the ad was first viewed. "Nobody could believe Zucker thought any political organization could use this ad. It makes a point, but it's way over the top."





On October 23, 2006, a second Zucker video, “The Taxman”, was posted to YouTube.[8] The spot suggests that Democrats, if elected, would raise taxes.



On December 18, 2006, a third was posted, this time with the Iraq Study Group in his sights.[9] This video compares study group's recommendations with that of the British appeasement of Hitler prior to World War II.


Comment by livingonli on 08/14/2008 16:38:34
Heading off now to get my car battery replaced. See ya'll in a bit.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 08/14/2008 16:43:04
I have some things to do. so I will try to swing back later.

Comment by velveeta jones on 08/14/2008 16:47:17
Quote by will in chicago:

Good morning, bloggers! Starling, I am glad that you are feeling better.



Here is some news for you: Clinton’s Name Will Be Put in Nomination



The UNN Daily Headlines are up.


Interesting news Will! Its my birthday on that day, so for MY sake, I know it'll play out well! :p

Comment by velveeta jones on 08/14/2008 17:01:43
Comment by m-hadley on 08/14/2008 17:58:24
“A woman who wildly mismanages and bankrupts a quarter-of-a-billion-dollar campaign operation, and then blames sexism in society, will dampen the dreams of our daughters.”

Maureen Dowd, NYTimes,

August 12, 2008 on Hillary's Role at the Democratic Convention





Comment by livingonli on 08/14/2008 18:08:04
Hi mfaye. How's Oklahoma today?

Comment by wickedpam on 08/14/2008 18:12:59
Thom is scaring me with the thought that Georgia is the "October surprise"

Comment by starling310 on 08/14/2008 18:14:53
Quote by wickedpam:

Thom is scaring me with the thought that Georgia is the "October surprise"




It's scary because I think he's right.





I just hope the Obama campaign can : tim gunn : "Make it work!"

Comment by TriSec on 08/14/2008 18:18:37
I imagine Russia lobbing a couple of nukes at Washington or Boston would be a surprise, yes.





Comment by livingonli on 08/14/2008 18:21:26
Which shows the Republicans can only stay in power by ruling through fear just like any other dictator.

Comment by livingonli on 08/14/2008 18:27:20
Well, car's done. Talk to you all later.

Comment by TriSec on 08/14/2008 18:28:52
Ya know, if McCain wins, I wonder how long it will be before the rest of the world starts calling for sanctions against US.



Of course, if McCain wins, I see only two options. 1. Flee. 2. Cyanide.









Comment by wickedpam on 08/14/2008 18:29:21
Sadly, we can't be subtle when it comes to the whole Russia is evil debate. The cold war is still too fresh is eveyone's memory.

Comment by TriSec on 08/14/2008 18:31:45
For your viewing pleasure...



http://electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Pres/ec_graph-2008-solid.png


Comment by wickedpam on 08/14/2008 18:39:36
Quote by TriSec:

Ya know, if McCain wins, I wonder how long it will be before the rest of the world starts calling for sanctions against US.



Of course, if McCain wins, I see only two options. 1. Flee. 2. Cyanide.













Please don't say that - you worry me when ya say stuff like that

Comment by m-hadley on 08/14/2008 18:50:40
Quote by livingonli:

Hi mfaye. How's Oklahoma today?




Hiya Livin,

OK is just okay - at least nobody has destroyed my Obama yard signs yet :P

How's Lawg Eyelan?

Cheers,

mfaye



Comment by TriSec on 08/14/2008 18:52:24
Heh.



I drive a blue car, and it's covered with Obama stuff right now. I'm not looking forward to driving to Cow Hampshire next week...





Comment by TriSec on 08/14/2008 19:10:42
Comment by m-hadley on 08/14/2008 19:18:54
Quote by TriSec:

Ya know, if McCain wins, I wonder how long it will be before the rest of the world starts calling for sanctions against US.



Of course, if McCain wins, I see only two options. 1. Flee. 2. Cyanide.







Sadly Mala,

My options are the same, I will NOT live in a McCain America (nor will I ever forgive my PUMA "friends" for sitting out this election)

Cheers,

mfaye :hug:

Comment by starling310 on 08/14/2008 19:33:53
Did you know?



"In Pennsylvania, it's legal for dog owners to put the pet down by shooting it."
More. . .







F*ckin Pennsylvania.



Comment by liam1965 on 08/14/2008 20:42:10
Hey, folks. I'm still on vacation, but I thought I'd pop in for a few.



Trying to avoid news and stuff, but when I saw the quote from McCain about Georgia/Russia "In the 21st century, countries do not invade other countries", I just about threw up in my mouth a little bit.



And people still think this guy has ANYTHING at all to offer our country?



Bleah.

Comment by liam1965 on 08/14/2008 20:43:22
Quote by TriSec:

Heh.



I drive a blue car, and it's covered with Obama stuff right now. I'm not looking forward to driving to Cow Hampshire next week...







Hey now, we up in New Hampshire are pretty active for Obama as well.



It's not like you're driving to, say, TX.



Liam.



P.S. Where are ya gonna be?

Comment by livingonli on 08/14/2008 21:07:23
I'm at work now. Mfaye, Long Island is still Long Island. Too much congestion and we just got a nice thunderstorm which I could even hear inside this building, it was that loud.

Comment by Raine on 08/14/2008 21:56:11
Breezing thru!



I am now up in the Hudson Valley. Planes trains and automobiles. Sitting here with my nephew and my mom.



It has been whirlwind.

Comment by m-hadley on 08/14/2008 23:07:06
Quote by Raine:

Breezing thru!



I am now up in the Hudson Valley. Planes trains and automobiles. Sitting here with my nephew and my mom.





It has been whirlwind.






Thanks for breezing by, Raine, babeeee :P

Stay safe and have FUN, FUN, FUN....

I like the sound of "Auntie Raine"

Take care, don't forget to have a for me and BobR and Liv and Mondo and Roomie AKA "Star" (wait, don't intend for you to get wasted )

Enjoy,

Cheers,

mfaye & :hug:

Comment by Random on 08/14/2008 23:07:45
Quote by TriSec:

For your viewing pleasure...



http://electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Pres/ec_graph-2008-solid.png




O.O That has given Random a cool idea...

Where'd you get that?

Comment by BobR on 08/14/2008 23:15:24
Quote by Random:





O.O That has given Random a cool idea...

Where'd you get that?


I believe it says "www.Electoral-vote.com" right there on the graph... ;)

Comment by Random on 08/14/2008 23:18:20
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Random:





O.O That has given Random a cool idea...

Where'd you get that?


I believe it says "www.Electoral-vote.com" right there on the graph... ;)


I...uh...Well...uh...Random just saw the graph. Right now he's gonna try and recreate it using his own data.

I still got four days to hammer all this stuff out and write a blog post.

Comment by livingonli on 08/14/2008 23:30:32
Quote by Raine:

Breezing thru!



I am now up in the Hudson Valley. Planes trains and automobiles. Sitting here with my nephew and my mom.



It has been whirlwind.


Are you there for sis's big moment?

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 00:00:11




: scans blog, long day of driving and the flaven: Now, Tri it is not nice to gloat. We just a lil bit, we are tawking about the Sith!

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 00:01:36
Rachel doing Countdown. :swoon:



: scribbles all over notebook cover Mr Dr Maddow, Dr & Mr Maddow:

Comment by BobR on 08/15/2008 00:02:26
Quote by livingonli:



Are you there for sis's big moment?


More like the celebration of the impending big moment... :P

Comment by BobR on 08/15/2008 00:03:11
Quote by Mondobubba:

Rachel doing Countdown. :swoon:



: scribbles all over notebook cover Mr Dr Maddow, Dr & Mr Maddow:


Mondo Maddow :rofl:

Comment by livingonli on 08/15/2008 00:05:32
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Rachel doing Countdown. :swoon:



: scribbles all over notebook cover Mr Dr Maddow, Dr & Mr Maddow:


Mondo Maddow :rofl:


I think Susan might have a word or two about that.

Comment by Random on 08/15/2008 00:05:43
I like that...

How can John McCain fix the economy,

When he doesn't think it's broken?

Comment by BobR on 08/15/2008 00:10:18
FYI - Steph will be on Larry King Live tonight...



For the owwah...

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 00:11:09
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Rachel doing Countdown. :swoon:



: scribbles all over notebook cover Mr Dr Maddow, Dr & Mr Maddow:


Mondo Maddow :rofl:




No, that's Bubba Maddow! Rachel and Bubba sittin' in a tree... I slay myself!

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 00:14:21
Am I missing woman's beach volleyball tonight? I love me some Walsh and May! :chants mindlessly: USA! USA! USA!



Yeah I came for the chicks in bikinis, I stayed because Walsh and May are friggin AWSOME!

Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/15/2008 00:28:48
Quote by BobR:

FYI - Steph will be on Larry King Live tonight...



For the owwah...




Thanks for the heads-up.



Wake up, TiVo. I have a job for you....



Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 01:02:10
Ah here they are! :pastes American flag decal to forehead: Go Misty! Go Kerri! USA! USA! USA!

Comment by TriSec on 08/15/2008 01:05:50
Lurking in the corners....



Liam about? We're coming up the 93 corridor to Lincoln and the usual tourist traps.



Hopefully we can make Polar Caves or The Flume for some "nature".





Comment by Random on 08/15/2008 01:06:21
...Random is confused.



Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 01:14:08
Quote by Random:

...Random is confused.







Why is Random confused? Is Random still mere miles from I, Mondo?



Oh damn the wimmins is losing to Belgium! BELGIUM!

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 01:20:27
C'mon girls! YES! Tied!

Comment by Random on 08/15/2008 01:20:48
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Random:

...Random is confused.







Why is Random confused? Is Random still mere miles from I, Mondo?



Oh damn the wimmins is losing to Belgium! BELGIUM!


Mondo needs to read up on Posts...I got home yesterday afternoons.

Now Random is tracking electoral colleges, and making graphs.

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 01:24:19
w00t! May-Walsh WIN! Woo hoo! :party:

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 01:26:29
Quote by Random:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Random:

...Random is confused.







Why is Random confused? Is Random still mere miles from I, Mondo?



Oh damn the wimmins is losing to Belgium! BELGIUM!


Mondo needs to read up on Posts...I got home yesterday afternoons.

Now Random is tracking electoral colleges, and making graphs.




Well gee Random, I thought you might have holed up in the hotel room for spell. I, Mondo, did read the posts. So there :ppffft:

Comment by Random on 08/15/2008 01:30:48
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Random:

...Random is confused.







Why is Random confused? Is Random still mere miles from I, Mondo?



Oh damn the wimmins is losing to Belgium! BELGIUM!


Mondo needs to read up on Posts...I got home yesterday afternoons.

Now Random is tracking electoral colleges, and making graphs.




Well gee Random, I thought you might have holed up in the hotel room for spell. I, Mondo, did read the posts. So there :ppffft:


Well, Random is home. Random will be working on his Number's blog for the next three for Mondee.

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 01:39:40
Quote by Random:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Mondobubba:



Quote by Random:

...Random is confused.







Why is Random confused? Is Random still mere miles from I, Mondo?



Oh damn the wimmins is losing to Belgium! BELGIUM!


Mondo needs to read up on Posts...I got home yesterday afternoons.

Now Random is tracking electoral colleges, and making graphs.




Well gee Random, I thought you might have holed up in the hotel room for spell. I, Mondo, did read the posts. So there :ppffft:


Well, Random is home. Random will be working on his Number's blog for the next three for Mondee.






: wrests smote button from Random's grasp: HOW MANY TIMES DO I NEED TO TELL YOU ABOUT CONFUSING PLURAL WITH POSSESSIVE? It is numbers, not number's : presses smote button repeatedly until Random is smoking husk:

Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/15/2008 01:44:41
Yay Mama

Comment by Random on 08/15/2008 01:49:57
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Mondobubba:



Quote by Random:

...Random is confused.







Why is Random confused? Is Random still mere miles from I, Mondo?



Oh damn the wimmins is losing to Belgium! BELGIUM!


Mondo needs to read up on Posts...I got home yesterday afternoons.

Now Random is tracking electoral colleges, and making graphs.




Well gee Random, I thought you might have holed up in the hotel room for spell. I, Mondo, did read the posts. So there :ppffft:


Well, Random is home. Random will be working on his Number's blog for the next three for Mondee.






: wrests smote button from Random's grasp: HOW MANY TIMES DO I NEED TO TELL YOU ABOUT CONFUSING PLURAL WITH POSSESSIVE? It is numbers, not number's : presses smote button repeatedly until Random is smoking husk:


Of course, i wasn't using a plural Number.

Comment by livingonli on 08/15/2008 01:52:43
Quote by trojanrabbit:

Yay Mama


It looks like I have to watch it or tape it when I get home.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/15/2008 02:03:34
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by trojanrabbit:

Yay Mama


It looks like I have to watch it or tape it when I get home.




She's on for a good part of the 2nd half hour.



Comment by livingonli on 08/15/2008 05:45:29
I got to watch her when I got home. I have know respect for Michael Reagan since he basically said that all Arab babies should be killed.