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Author: BobR    Date: 10/03/2008 12:28:58

It seemed like some sort of drug-induced fever-dream... There was Fargo's Marge Gunderson tarted up and playing the part of Miss South Carolina... "Oh ya" or "Ooh Key" she'd say in response to a question, then meander off-course and into an answer to a question not asked. I kept looking for signs of intelligence behind those blank eyes, but came up empty. It was a nightmare!

Actually, no it was not a dream, unfortunately, but the VP debates last night.

It was spectacularly frustrating watching her toss off a folksy homily and then lie or try to speak with conviction about something of which was she quite obviously ignorant. Like a true Caribou Barbie, when you pull its string, you always get a canned response, delivered in that fabulous Barbie way. You know the empty-headed piece of plastic isn't actually creating those responses on its own, but it's a great illusion. An not unlike a magic eight ball, the response may not be exactly what you were looking for when you asked the question.

She seemed a little more on her game than she has been lately with interviews. There were no obvious moose-in-the-headlight moments. There were very few fractured and incoherent sentences where her brain experiences 100% CPU utilization and just spins the pizza wheel. From that perspective, she admittedly did better than expected.

Of course, that's what happens when you don't have a journalist "belaboring the point" and forcing her to actually answer the question asked, and provide details. When she actually did address the question, it was certainly in the minority (probably countable on one hand). According to someone who has debated her in the past, this was to be expected:
When he faces off against Sarah Palin Thursday night, Joe Biden will have his hands full.

I should know. I've debated Governor Palin more than two dozen times. And she's a master, not of facts, figures, or insightful policy recommendations, but at the fine art of the nonanswer, the glittering generality.

Most of the time though, it was painfully obvious she was rote reciting memorized answers to questions. It wasn't a debate, it was an oral exam. When she said "say it ain't so Joe", I visibly cringed. How long had she been fondling that one in her jacket pocket, just waiting to pull it out? She also kept spewing out the word "maverick" in an almost Tourettes-like vocal spasm.

Joe, on the other hand, came across as smart, confident, informed, and real. He had a couple moments when he pulled out a prepared "zinger", but he mostly responded to the questions asked, and retorted the "facts" delivered in Palin's scripted answers. He was comfortable, cool, and collected. He looked vice-presidential.

To be fair, both sides occasionally played loose with the facts. With Biden, it was generally a small detail. Palin, however, delivered some real whoppers. Some examples:
PALIN: Said of Democratic presidential candidate Obama: "94 times he voted to increase taxes or not support a tax reduction."

THE FACTS: The dubious count includes repetitive votes as well as votes to cut taxes for the middle class while raising them on the rich. An analysis by factcheck.org found that 23 of the votes were for measures that would have produced no tax increase at all, seven were in favor of measures that would have lowered taxes for many, 11 would have increased taxes on only those making more than $1 million a year.

-------------------

BIDEN: Said McCain supports tax breaks for oil companies, and "wants to give them another $4 billion tax cut."

THE FACTS: Biden is repeating a favorite saw of the Obama campaign, and it's misleading. McCain supports a cut in income taxes for all corporations, and doesn't single out any one industry for that benefit.

The big moment of the debate (as noted by the pundits) is when Palin looked to Bush/Cheney for inspiration and claimed that they wanted to expand the powers of the vice-presidency. Considering the past eight years of the Executive branch running roughshod over Congress and the Constitution, that is a comment that should scare all patriotic Americans.

Ultimately, it was clear that Biden won the debate hands down. We can certainly hope it was the final nail in the coffin of McCain's whithering campaign. The prospect of a power-hungry vapid mercurial redneck one 72 year-old heartbeat away from the presidency is just too terrifying to contemplate.


 

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Comment by m-hadley on 10/03/2008 12:46:01
Nice summation BobR,

I watched the debate, but didn't live blog - I've just tried to do too much multi-tasking this week and needed a break. But I agree with you 100% on Palin's performance - too cute by half :airhump:

Cheers,

mfaye

:gobama:

Comment by clintster on 10/03/2008 12:47:13
Mornin'! Good post, Bobber!



It finally struck me this morning; the reason I was bothered so much by Milfy's constant "Marge and Miss South Carolina" routine was that this was essentially a job interview with the American people. How many interviews have happened where the interviewee kept winking at the interviewer, constantly talked about his/her hometown and chided another hopeful for not loving the company enough? And how many of those people got hired who weren't applying to be Hooters waitresses?



No disrespect to Hooters, of course.

Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 12:51:08
You know, that whole "Minnesota Nice" thing never bothered me...



Until Now.



: plunges daggers into own eyes :





Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 12:59:19
Question:



When President Carter and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. say "Nuke-You-Lar", how come they don't sound like retards?





Comment by BobR on 10/03/2008 13:01:08
Quote by TriSec:

Question:



When President Carter and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. say "Nuke-You-Lar", how come they don't sound like retards?





because they aren't?

Comment by wickedpam on 10/03/2008 13:08:00
Morning :hug:





There's been a coo on the show!

Comment by BobR on 10/03/2008 13:09:06
Quote by wickedpam:

Morning :hug:



There's been a coo on the show!


Momma sleeping one off?... :P

Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 13:09:08




Is it me, or is Jim using his "radio voice" today?

Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 13:10:03
Erm, that's "coup". Pigeons "coo".



:peace:





Comment by BobR on 10/03/2008 13:10:57
Fact Check on the Mooks:



Wyoming is the least populous state...

Comment by wickedpam on 10/03/2008 13:11:40
Quote by TriSec:

Erm, that's "coup". Pigeons "coo".



:peace:









thank you - I vapor locked on how to spell it :redface:

Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 13:11:45
"Say it ain't so, Joe"...as we all know was uttered by a small boy to Shoeless Joe Jackson in the wake of the Chicago Black Sox scandal.



However....the story is now considered apocryphal; it probably never happened.





Comment by BobR on 10/03/2008 13:14:52
That's Bob & Raine, not Bob & Ray... :P

Comment by Shane-O on 10/03/2008 13:15:16
Jim and Chris are GREAT on their own!!!! :clap:

Comment by MNRN on 10/03/2008 13:16:23
the boys are doing well.....I think.....

Comment by BobR on 10/03/2008 13:16:57
For everyone contemplating whether to have a donut this morning, consider this: it might be healthier than some breakfast meals

Comment by MNRN on 10/03/2008 13:17:10
Bill-O should not yell Oh Yeah, Oh Yeah when talking to Barney Frank....just sayin.

Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 13:18:27
Barney would have been justified to cold-cock Bill there.





Really, I'm at a loss over that clip.





Comment by BobR on 10/03/2008 13:19:51
Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 13:19:54
Good morning!

Comment by wickedpam on 10/03/2008 13:20:06
get off the Chicks back you dolt.

Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 13:20:08
Well, who knew? And that's a good slug of salt and bacon on that, too!





Eat This Instead!

McDonald’s Egg McMuffin with coffee

310 calories

12 g fat (5 g saturated)

820 mg sodium

30 g carbs

3 g sugars

Comment by MNRN on 10/03/2008 13:20:24
good mornin!

Comment by MNRN on 10/03/2008 13:20:53
Jim Louise Ward......ha!

Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 13:23:26
Has there been any mention of Momma's whereabouts?

Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 13:24:53
Quote by BobR:

For TriSec: World's Scariest Runways




I know a bunch of those, and that doesn't include the now-closed Kai Tak in Hong Kong....





Here's Honduras....watch his wheels over the ridge.







Comment by MNRN on 10/03/2008 13:25:23
Quote by TriSec:

You know, that whole "Minnesota Nice" thing never bothered me...



Until Now.



: plunges daggers into own eyes :









duuude don't go there.....she ain't one of us....fo sho.



Raine, Jim and Chris mentioned "problems in the bathroom" "dizzy" and "laying on the floor"

Comment by BobR on 10/03/2008 13:27:53
Quote by TriSec:



I know a bunch of those, and that doesn't include the now-closed Kai Tak in Hong Kong....



Here's Honduras....watch his wheels over the ridge.





:o



holy crap!

Comment by MNRN on 10/03/2008 13:31:22
well its official, based on that video of the plane landing, no mission trips to Honduras for your nurse.....whew.....





we have a group going to Mexico this coming week....I want to go on the next trip to Guatemala....DON"T show me the video, tri....

Comment by wickedpam on 10/03/2008 13:31:40
like Mondo said - when the bar is an inch off the floor it's hard not to live up to expectations.

Comment by Scoopster on 10/03/2008 13:33:34
Morning all..



So Milfy was jes' playen like a sea lion in the snow eh? The whole lookin' like an idiot compared to Katie Couric and Chuckie Gibson was all just a fakade! Kinda like how the whole Bush is a dumb hick thing is a fakeout - she knew exactly what she was doing and played it to a tee.



Unfortunately for her, Biden was prepared for it. She let her play that game and let her look good. And he looked even better, without patronizing her and without even acknowledging that she was part of the equation. And that is what threw her off her A-game.



Bush isn't the past Sarah - he's the present. He and his loyal goobers in Congress are exactly what have been root cause of the problems that we are now seeing. You didn't take that into account when you smarmily replied with your copycat 'therr you go agin' line. And as good as you made yourself look last night, the only people you impressed were the foxbots on Frank Luntz's panel.

Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 13:38:09
Somewhere in Iran, I imagine someone saying "Hey, there goes the president of the US talking about nucular weapons again....good thing we don't have any of those!"



"Pass me the plutonium, willya?"





Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 13:40:33
Some of these are flight-sim, but some are real-world:



Dangerous Approaches



Check out Madeira; that one is very similar to Kai Tak. (legendary in plane-spotting circles.)



Kai Tak from the checkerboard:



http://monday-fodder.com/hongkong/Kai%20Tak%204.jpg


Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 13:42:24
Thanks for the update MNRN.



I has a feeling it was something like that. So Frangela musta picked her up off the floor?

Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 13:44:54
:rofl: Jim and Chris are doing great!

Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 13:45:34
still waiting for Maho Beach photos.





Comment by BobR on 10/03/2008 13:46:05
Quote by MNRN:

Raine, Jim and Chris mentioned "problems in the bathroom" "dizzy" and "laying on the floor"


"... an empty box of wine was found nearby. Authorities are baffled..."

Comment by BobR on 10/03/2008 13:48:40
Quote by TriSec:

still waiting for Maho Beach photos.





Since you're twisting my arm...



From beneath:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/BobR_69/Airplanes/overhead.jpg




From the side:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/BobR_69/Airplanes/747.jpg




From the plane:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/BobR_69/Airplanes/MahoFromPlane.jpg


Comment by wickedpam on 10/03/2008 13:51:22
how many times did she say "maverick"?

Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 13:51:25
<-- swoon



[Of course being a French island, Maho Beach is "that kind of beach". Which is interfering with my plans to vacation there someday, despite all evidence to the contrary for Mrs. TriSec.]



Comment by BobR on 10/03/2008 13:53:47
Quote by TriSec:

<-- swoon



[Of course being a French island, Maho Beach is "that kind of beach". Which is interfering with my plans to vacation there someday, despite all evidence to the contrary for Mrs. TriSec.]



Actually, the island is half dutch, and I believe the airport is on the Dutch side. There was no nudity on the beach when I was there.



EDIT: On Maho beach. There was one beach on the French side that was clothing-optional, but there are plenty of other "family-friendly" beaches to choose from.

Comment by MNRN on 10/03/2008 13:54:06
having been to said island, and to "that kind of beach" um I can tell u and Mrs Tri that Maho ain't that....just saying....

Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 13:54:25
You know, I was a little nervous watching the footage of Gov. Palin walking down the airstair yesterday with her babe-in-arms.



Couldn't they have used a jetway? (Rhetorical question, photo-ops rule, I know.)





Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 13:55:59




Joe nearly made me cry last night. Jor Biden.

Comment by BobR on 10/03/2008 13:56:12
Quote by TriSec:

You know, I was a little nervous watching the footage of Gov. Palin walking down the airstair yesterday with her babe-in-arms.



Couldn't they have used a jetway? (Rhetorical question, photo-ops rule, I know.)





As you already know, it depends on the airport.



I suppose there are also security concerns with taking a SS protected person through the middle of an airport...

Comment by MNRN on 10/03/2008 13:57:51
DING DING Bob is correct, the free beach is on the Dutch side, Orient Bay. A slice of paradise, at least it was about 25 years ago (jesus did I just say 25 years ago...)

Comment by wickedpam on 10/03/2008 13:58:27
Quote by TriSec:

You know, I was a little nervous watching the footage of Gov. Palin walking down the airstair yesterday with her babe-in-arms.



Couldn't they have used a jetway? (Rhetorical question, photo-ops rule, I know.)







does she not own one of those baby-carrier thing?



Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 13:58:36
For the record, I did NOT consider Sarah's Hair *up* last night.



Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 14:07:39
AWWWW... Poor Momma.







Comment by Scoopster on 10/03/2008 14:07:48
Oh my this does not bode well if the internets have anything to say..



http://ema.mtv.co.uk/vote/



Click on "Best Act Ever", and there in the mix with Britney and Bono is Rick Astley.

Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 14:08:30
I am still dumbfounded that Sarah said she wasn't going to answer a question asked of her last night.







Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 14:08:55
:dance:

Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 14:09:34
Nice Work DJ!!!







Comment by Shane-O on 10/03/2008 14:09:46
Confession - I love that song...

Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 14:10:49
What I loved about Joe last night is that he did not have to tear her apart. He was diplomatic... almost like he was talking to the enemy, with no pre-exisiting conditions. ;)

Comment by livingonli on 10/03/2008 14:11:06
Good morning everyone.

I am divided between the Mommaless mooks (sounds like one of those drinking games went horribly wrong) or Lizz Winstead filling in for Alex Bennett on Sirius Left.

Comment by Shane-O on 10/03/2008 14:11:31
Jim's site IS fun...



Also a great source for clips....

Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 14:12:10
Quote by Shane-O:

Confession - I love that song...


So Do I...



and I am a little embarrassed about it...

Comment by livingonli on 10/03/2008 14:12:34
Quote by Scoopster:

Oh my this does not bode well if the internets have anything to say..



http://ema.mtv.co.uk/vote/



Click on "Best Act Ever", and there in the mix with Britney and Bono is Rick Astley.


I guess MTV knows how many viewers have had their attention spans destroyed over the years.

Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 14:13:14
Quote by Raine:

What I loved about Joe last night is that he did not have to tear her apart. He was diplomatic... almost like he was talking to the enemy, with no pre-exisiting conditions. ;)




I saw that too, Joe was ever the gentleman.



Speaking of which, Mrs. TriSec has pulled out our "Emily Post" manual, and I'm a bit amazed by the amount of etiquette and protocol surrounding Washington. (Believe it or not, there's an entire chapter devoted to attending a state dinner.)



Won't it be nice to have and administration that pays attention to these things, instead of wearing a parka to a memorial and sexually harassing a foreign head-of-state?



Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 14:13:27
Only the repubs could change the meaning of Liar to Maverick.

Comment by Shane-O on 10/03/2008 14:16:29
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Shane-O:

Confession - I love that song...


So Do I...



and I am a little embarrassed about it...


Michael McDonald -- reminds me of the running joke in 40 Year-Old Virgin...

(His "America" - at the Dem convention - :clap:)



Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 14:19:06


I agree, This is a VERY powerful Speech.

There is a transcipt of it at the link.



:gobama:

Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 14:22:21
Gwen Ifil: Ms. Palin, how does your campiagn suggest we go about solving the economic crisis in America?



Sarah Palin: I like Cheerios with sliced bananas, with just a little touch of Honey. And I use coupons on double coupon day. Trig likes the to ride in the shoppin cart.

Comment by livingonli on 10/03/2008 14:23:40
Quote by Raine:

Gwen Ifil: Ms. Palin, how does your campiagn suggest we go about solving the economic crisis in America?



Sarah Palin: I like Cheerios with sliced bananas, with just a little touch of Honey. And I use coupons on double coupon day. Trig likes the to ride in the shoppin cart.


:rofl:



I just hope Momma didn't succumb to alcohol poisoning from one of those debate drinking games.

Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 14:27:10
Sarah makes me throw up a little in my mouth... poor little thing, having to *tolerate* the gays.

Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 14:28:12
I find it amazing that she said she WILL be tolerant... so what is she now?

Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 14:28:57
Thank you caller!!!







Comment by m-hadley on 10/03/2008 14:29:22
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

Gwen Ifil: Ms. Palin, how does your campiagn suggest we go about solving the economic crisis in America?



Sarah Palin: I like Cheerios with sliced bananas, with just a little touch of Honey. And I use coupons on double coupon day. Trig likes the to ride in the shoppin cart.


:rofl:



I just hope Momma didn't succumb to alcohol poisoning from one of those debate drinking games.




I hope that Momma didn't play that game that had viewers taking a shot whenever Palin said "maverick" - she's should probably be hospitalized :D

Cheers,

mfaye

:gobama:



Comment by livingonli on 10/03/2008 14:30:29
Comment by Shane-O on 10/03/2008 14:35:27
Steph: So guys, how'd the show go?



Mooks: Sorry about your FCC license....



:Doh:

Comment by wickedpam on 10/03/2008 14:36:05
Quote by Shane-O:

Steph: So guys, how'd the show go?



Mooks: Sorry about your FCC license....



:Doh:




:LOL:

Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 14:38:24
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

Gwen Ifil: Ms. Palin, how does your campiagn suggest we go about solving the economic crisis in America?



Sarah Palin: I like Cheerios with sliced bananas, with just a little touch of Honey. And I use coupons on double coupon day. Trig likes the to ride in the shoppin cart.


:rofl:



I just hope Momma didn't succumb to alcohol poisoning from one of those debate drinking games.




I hope that Momma didn't play that game that had viewers taking a shot whenever Palin said "maverick" - she's should probably be hospitalized :D

Cheers,

mfaye

:gobama:

I must say I enjoyed the Bingo game, It worked well in that I didn't have to stare at the woman's face all night.



Comment by Mondobubba on 10/03/2008 14:45:24
Quote by Raine:

For the record, I did NOT consider Sarah's Hair *up* last night.





Morning all! Back at the Dem HQ. Good times, good times! I've gotten to meet Jsy McGovern who is running against Ander "Use Sack of Protoplasm" Crenshaw. As well as a lady who thought that was right on the mark when I called Palin a snarky bitch.



Yeah, but you could see both ears, no buds or trailing wires. You know what sucked? Not having anyone to vent at/ blog with when I watched the rebroadcast at 1AM. Liv and I IMed on Facecrack, but is just wasn't really the same. :wacko:



No, I'm not worried about the economy. Just because I had a dream where I tried to pay for something with by debit card and it came out of my wallet cracked in five pieces then I tried my Discover card and it was broken in half. Nope not worried at all.





Comment by livingonli on 10/03/2008 14:48:30
I would just like to roll in money. I'm just glad when I am able to pay cash these days.

Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 14:52:31
TriSec is adept at using "Klingon Math" to make sure I have money lying around to do things like buy food and keep gas in the car.



I got paid today, but rent was due Wednesday.....that check is pretty much all done.



Comment by Shane-O on 10/03/2008 14:52:33
No -- when Sarah mentioned Talibani -- she was referring to the Iraqi President.

Comment by livingonli on 10/03/2008 14:56:00
Quote by TriSec:

TriSec is adept at using "Klingon Math" to make sure I have money lying around to do things like buy food and keep gas in the car.



I got paid today, but rent was due Wednesday.....that check is pretty much all done.



I know weeks like that.

Comment by Shane-O on 10/03/2008 14:56:11
wireless mic

Comment by wickedpam on 10/03/2008 14:56:20
is there tape of that?

Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 14:58:49
Oh, and Mondo reminds me, I'm the newest member of the Waltham Democratic City Committee....meeting on Oct 16! (I've got plenty of friends on the committee already, thanks to my Scouting connections...)



Comment by wickedpam on 10/03/2008 14:59:03
Comment by BobR on 10/03/2008 15:00:59
Quote by Raine:



I agree, This is a VERY powerful Speech.

There is a transcipt of it at the link.



:gobama:


:clap:



awesome!

Comment by BobR on 10/03/2008 15:01:14
Quote by livingonli:

Sarah Palin Debate Flow Chart.



http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3091/2909496470_d751e8a3dc.jpg?v=0


:rofl:

Comment by m-hadley on 10/03/2008 15:01:42
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

For the record, I did NOT consider Sarah's Hair *up* last night.





Morning all! Back at the Dem HQ. Good times, good times! I've gotten to meet Jsy McGovern who is running against Ander "Use Sack of Protoplasm" Crenshaw. As well as a lady who thought that was right on the mark when I called Palin a snarky bitch.



Yeah, but you could see both ears, no buds or trailing wires. You know what sucked? Not having anyone to vent at/ blog with when I watched the rebroadcast at 1AM. Liv and I IMed on Facecrack, but is just wasn't really the same. :wacko:



No, I'm not worried about the economy. Just because I had a dream where I tried to pay for something with by debit card and it came out of my wallet cracked in five pieces then I tried my Discover card and it was broken in half. Nope not worried at all.





Heya 4Fers,

That rat's nest she called a french braid just goes to prove that she has no gay friends (or no gay male friends, anyway :P).

Cheers,

mfaye

:gobama:



Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 15:02:24
32 days... 32 days... it cannot come fast enough.

Comment by Shane-O on 10/03/2008 15:03:20
Quote by Shane-O:

wireless mic


The reason I say that is that in the beginning, even though the Vp candidates were away from the mics, you could clearly hear Palin ask Biden - "Can I call you Joe?" (which she never did).



And chances are, after the debate, she was turning it off so that her conversations with her family would not be picked up...



Comment by BobR on 10/03/2008 15:03:29
Quote by m-hadley:



Heya 4Fers,

That rat's nest she called a french braid just goes to prove that she has no gay friends (or no gay male friends, anyway :P).

Cheers,

mfaye

:gobama:



meow!

:kitty:

Comment by wickedpam on 10/03/2008 15:06:56
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Shane-O:

wireless mic


The reason I say that is that in the beginning, even though the Vp candidates were away from the mics, you could clearly hear Palin ask Biden - "Can I call you Joe?" (which she never did).



And chances are, after the debate, she was turning it off so that her conversations with her family would not be picked up...





wasn't it "Hey! Can I call you Joe?"



manners of a floppy shoed clown in a egg truck



Comment by livingonli on 10/03/2008 15:07:23
The Stephanie Miller show with 100% less Stephanie.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/03/2008 15:07:38
Quote by BobR:

Quote by m-hadley:



Heya 4Fers,

That rat's nest she called a french braid just goes to prove that she has no gay friends (or no gay male friends, anyway :P).

Cheers,

mfaye

:gobama:



meow!

:kitty:






its true - didn't the french braid go out in the early 90's?



Comment by Shane-O on 10/03/2008 15:09:19
Quote by wickedpam:

manners of a floppy shoed clown in a egg truck



:rofl:



I've never heard that one... :)



Comment by wickedpam on 10/03/2008 15:10:33
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by wickedpam:

manners of a floppy shoed clown in a egg truck



:rofl:



I've never heard that one... :)







much like her "facts" I pulled that one out of my.... or rather out of thin air.



Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 15:14:24
http://www.airfarceone.net/antirepubs2/winkin_drinkin_nod.gif


Comment by Scoopster on 10/03/2008 15:16:24
Hey who here thought Biden made a minor goof when he said Bosniacs last night?



I did.. Then again Biden's more knowledgeable about these things.



So yeah.. go easy today on the morons at RedState - they didn't know either.

Comment by livingonli on 10/03/2008 15:16:38
Quote by Raine:

http://www.airfarceone.net/antirepubs2/winkin_drinkin_nod.gif


How the mighty have fallen.

Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 15:17:13
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Shane-O:

wireless mic


The reason I say that is that in the beginning, even though the Vp candidates were away from the mics, you could clearly hear Palin ask Biden - "Can I call you Joe?" (which she never did).



And chances are, after the debate, she was turning it off so that her conversations with her family would not be picked up...

yup.





Sarah was taught for the test. She is the First NCLB VP.



Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 15:18:14
Well, I just signed up my Cub Scouts to go and burn some flags!!



(Veteran's day...the annual retirement ceremony at Sleepy Hollow Cemetery in Concord, MA)





Comment by wickedpam on 10/03/2008 15:18:40
Quote by Scoopster:

Hey who here thought Biden made a minor goof when he said Bosniacs last night?



I did.. Then again Biden's more knowledgeable about these things.



So yeah.. go easy today on the morons at RedState - they didn't know either.






I didn't even notice - are they like the Animanic's? :)



Comment by Scoopster on 10/03/2008 15:19:51
By the way.. new RedState page layout is worse than the new Facecrack.

Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 15:20:35
Quote by Scoopster:

Hey who here thought Biden made a minor goof when he said Bosniacs last night?



I did.. Then again Biden's more knowledgeable about these things.



So yeah.. go easy today on the morons at RedState - they didn't know either.


Wow, I thought it was a gaffe too, look at that! A VP candidate who is smarter than me! (thank godess)

Comment by Scoopster on 10/03/2008 15:20:55
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Scoopster:

Hey who here thought Biden made a minor goof when he said Bosniacs last night?



I did.. Then again Biden's more knowledgeable about these things.



So yeah.. go easy today on the morons at RedState - they didn't know either.




I didn't even notice - are they like the Animanic's? :)



Apparently Bosniacs (or Bosniaks) is a specific term for Bosnian Muslims.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/03/2008 15:20:59
Quote by Scoopster:

Hey who here thought Biden made a minor goof when he said Bosniacs last night?



I did.. Then again Biden's more knowledgeable about these things.



So yeah.. go easy today on the morons at RedState - they didn't know either.






My ears pearked up. But then the database kicked in from high school. AP history, Bosniacs is acceptable. Point goes to Biden.

Comment by Shane-O on 10/03/2008 15:22:04
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Shane-O:

wireless mic


The reason I say that is that in the beginning, even though the Vp candidates were away from the mics, you could clearly hear Palin ask Biden - "Can I call you Joe?" (which she never did).



And chances are, after the debate, she was turning it off so that her conversations with her family would not be picked up...

yup.





Sarah was taught for the test. She is the First NCLB VP.



I've recorded the audio and video from Born Yesterday -- This weekend, I'm hoping to cut the "ten things said in Washington" scene with the VP debate tape...



Comment by Mondobubba on 10/03/2008 15:22:46
I didn't even look at the diary for clarification. That was a short vacation from KOS, Scoop. :)

Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 15:27:31
Very excited that so many people played bingo last nite.





I just read on another message board, regarding Sarah and her flirting and how offensive it was...
As a woman I am way beyond appalled when flirtatious folksy behavior is cited as holding one's own in a debate. If Joe Biden had winked at the American people and spoken to us in such a manner he'd be tarred and feathered in the press this morning as a condescending prick.



I take comfort that the man in my life was equally offended. His comment, once he picked his jaw up off the ground, was "Does this brainless twit really think I'm going to vote with a beer in one hand and my dick in the other?"








Comment by wickedpam on 10/03/2008 15:28:10
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Scoopster:

Hey who here thought Biden made a minor goof when he said Bosniacs last night?



I did.. Then again Biden's more knowledgeable about these things.



So yeah.. go easy today on the morons at RedState - they didn't know either.




I didn't even notice - are they like the Animanic's? :)



Apparently Bosniacs (or Bosniaks) is a specific term for Bosnian Muslims.




you learn something new everyday :D



Comment by livingonli on 10/03/2008 15:34:36
Quote by Raine:

Very excited that so many people played bingo last nite.





I just read on another message board, regarding Sarah and her flirting and how offensive it was...
As a woman I am way beyond appalled when flirtatious folksy behavior is cited as holding one's own in a debate. If Joe Biden had winked at the American people and spoken to us in such a manner he'd be tarred and feathered in the press this morning as a condescending prick.



I take comfort that the man in my life was equally offended. His comment, once he picked his jaw up off the ground, was "Does this brainless twit really think I'm going to vote with a beer in one hand and my dick in the other?"








Apparently Pat Buchanan was thinking that way.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/03/2008 15:34:55
Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 15:35:36
Wow, woops, Like any repub knows how many articles there are in the constitution.



Joe hit one home run after another last night, hands down, and he didn't need to flirt to do it.

Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 15:37:23




Well, he's in a wee bit of shadow, but checking some other pix of Obama...I wonder if they gave him the ol' "OJ Treatment" on the website?



(and BTW, was it just me? I swear I saw a sign last night that said "Vote White" in the pre-debate backgrounds...)







Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 15:38:01




Could they have made him look ANY MORE like the scary black man? That is just so pathetic.

Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 15:40:07
Personally I think the government should get out of the marriage business. EVERYONE should have the same rights --

Comment by BobR on 10/03/2008 15:41:06
Quote by Raine:





Could they have made him look ANY MORE like the scary black man? That is just so pathetic.


Scary? I thought he looks pouty in that picture, like he's about to start crying...

Comment by wickedpam on 10/03/2008 15:41:18
Quote by TriSec:





Well, he's in a wee bit of shadow, but checking some other pix of Obama...I wonder if they gave him the ol' "OJ Treatment" on the website?



(and BTW, was it just me? I swear I saw a sign last night that said "Vote White" in the pre-debate backgrounds...)











Didn't see that sign but I thought my eyes were playing tricks and it was just my imagination that it looked shadowy



Comment by Shane-O on 10/03/2008 15:43:18
Quote by Raine:

Personally I think the government should get out of the marriage business. EVERYONE should have the same rights --


Exactly!



It's a fundamental right - protected by the Constitution. And as people exercise those rights, and the Wingers realize the Constitution CAN NOT stop it, they want to amend the Constitution. That's the only way they can block progress.



Comment by BobR on 10/03/2008 15:53:27
Quote by wickedpam:



Didn't see that sign but I thought my eyes were playing tricks and it was just my imagination that it looked shadowy



It's not unlike the typical attack ad technique of playing a grainy B&W video of your opponent in slow motion and stopping it when they're in the middle of a blink.

Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 15:53:48
Erica Jong thinks Sarah is doggone cute!
Sarah Palin is a character out of Lewis Carroll. No one can translate that smile. She's the Cheshire Cat.



She says nothing and she grins triumphantly. Her smile lingers when the words have gone.



Nothing she says makes sense but the eyelashes never stop batting. Catch phrases and buzz words bounce in the air above her head. She adores the word "also." Also, she adores herself. She is so doggone cute she turns herself on.



She is the woman politician advertisers have been waiting for -- all style and no substance. Full of confidence and full of beans, the walk of feminism without the talk. Nobody can object because there's nothing to object to. Hillary Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro had ideas you could disagree with. But Sarah Palin is perky and inscrutable at once, you betcha. She talks. We listen but we have no idea what's been said.



She is the female candidate of GOP dreams. She talks, she smiles, she flirts, she never opposes. She makes mistakes but nobody seems to care. We watch her lips go up, go down, go sideways. We watch her eyes glisten behind rimless glasses. The beauty pageant promoters removed her soul so it wouldn't get in the way. How can we dismiss her or debate her? She's a bubble. She's fizz.



She is the perfection of beauty pageant womanhood. All image, no ideas. Camera-ready for hair and lipstick commercials. Her patriotism is of the Fourth of July variety. Let's eat a heck of a lot of hot dogs, pun intended.



She's pure as a sex-phone operator. You can fantasize but not touch. The bill comes later.



She reminds me of Paris Hilton -- who once tried to trademark the expression "That's hot." Will Palin trademark "You betcha"? Or "doggone"? Or "team of mavericks"? I wouldn't put it past her. Whatever happens with the "election" the endorsements will come flooding in. Maybelline will want her. And Kellogg's. And Wal-Mart. Some publisher must already have an offer on the table.


Comment by wickedpam on 10/03/2008 15:54:39
Thank you Frangela!

Comment by BobR on 10/03/2008 15:56:52
Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 15:56:58
:modbat: WE were live blogging too.

Comment by Scoopster on 10/03/2008 15:59:35
Now playing: G'n'F'n'R - It's So Easy



'cuz you ain't got nothin better to do.. AND I'M BORED!

Comment by wickedpam on 10/03/2008 16:03:11
running out for errands back later :D

Comment by IzzyBitz on 10/03/2008 16:09:57
Lizz is on Sirius 109 right now. Being from Minnesota, she does an awesome Sarah Palin!



WTF is wrong with bloggie. It is all skewed to the right side.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/03/2008 16:11:52
Tri, guess what bit of jazz smack I am shooting up? Hint: not KoB

Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 16:12:22
"Team of Mavericks"



Isn't that an oxymoron?



Given that a "maverick" is defined as "an independent individual who does not go along with a group or party", that doesn't seem very team-friendly now, does it?





Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 16:14:19
Quote by Mondobubba:

Tri, guess what bit of jazz smack I am shooting up? Hint: not KoB






Why, it must be Kenny G!



: ducks incoming brick :



Giant Steps? The Shape of Jazz to Come? Ellington Live at Newport? Fables of Faubus?

Comment by Scoopster on 10/03/2008 16:18:10
Quote by TriSec:

"Team of Mavericks"



Isn't that an oxymoron?



Given that a "maverick" is defined as "an independent individual who does not go along with a group or party", that doesn't seem very team-friendly now, does it?





That reminds me of a great scene from the movie Airheads..



"What's the name of your band."



"The Lone Rangers."



"Uhh.. There's three of you. You're not exactly 'lone'."

Comment by Shane-O on 10/03/2008 16:19:08
Quote by TriSec:

"Team of Mavericks"



Isn't that an oxymoron?



Given that a "maverick" is defined as "an independent individual who does not go along with a group or party", that doesn't seem very team-friendly now, does it?





It's like a group of non-conformists.



Comment by livingonli on 10/03/2008 16:23:07
Quote by IzzyBitz:

Lizz is on Sirius 109 right now. Being from Minnesota, she does an awesome Sarah Palin!



WTF is wrong with bloggie. It is all skewed to the right side.


Did you hear any of her filling in for Alex Bennett?

Comment by Scoopster on 10/03/2008 16:30:02
So uhh.. yeah!



Quasi-strokes or face-twitching robots. You decide!

Comment by livingonli on 10/03/2008 16:32:23
Quote by Scoopster:

[url]So uhh.. yeah!]http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/3/115116/426/405/618950



Quasi-strokes or face-twitching robots. You decide!


Maybe it's her tell to let you know that she's lying.

Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 16:36:06
Quote by TriSec:

"Team of Mavericks"



Isn't that an oxymoron?



Given that a "maverick" is defined as "an independent individual who does not go along with a group or party", that doesn't seem very team-friendly now, does it?



Anarchists Unite! :metal:



Comment by Mondobubba on 10/03/2008 16:36:49
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Tri, guess what bit of jazz smack I am shooting up? Hint: not KoB






Why, it must be Kenny G!



: ducks incoming brick :



Giant Steps? The Shape of Jazz to Come? Ellington Live at Newport? Fables of Faubus?




You wound me, Sir! Close with Giant Steps.



Comment by Shane-O on 10/03/2008 16:37:57
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by TriSec:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Tri, guess what bit of jazz smack I am shooting up? Hint: not KoB






Why, it must be Kenny G!



: ducks incoming brick :



Giant Steps? The Shape of Jazz to Come? Ellington Live at Newport? Fables of Faubus?




You wound me, Sir! Close with Giant Steps.



Seven Steps to Heaven?



Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 16:38:30
Quote by IzzyBitz:

Lizz is on Sirius 109 right now. Being from Minnesota, she does an awesome Sarah Palin!



WTF is wrong with bloggie. It is all skewed to the right side.


Heya Izzy, it is looking ok here.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/03/2008 16:43:26
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by TriSec:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Tri, guess what bit of jazz smack I am shooting up? Hint: not KoB






Why, it must be Kenny G!



: ducks incoming brick :



Giant Steps? The Shape of Jazz to Come? Ellington Live at Newport? Fables of Faubus?




You wound me, Sir! Close with Giant Steps.



Seven Steps to Heaven?





Nope. Tri this was a waist high fastball.

Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 16:46:18
Quote by Scoopster:

[url]So uhh.. yeah!]http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/3/115116/426/405/618950



Quasi-strokes or face-twitching robots. You decide!
Too funny.



I know Sarah was doing a fundie wink... MCCain on the other hand... that was, imo signs of a TIA. (mini stroke)



Comment by Mondobubba on 10/03/2008 16:48:00
Quote by Raine:

Quote by IzzyBitz:

Lizz is on Sirius 109 right now. Being from Minnesota, she does an awesome Sarah Palin!



WTF is wrong with bloggie. It is all skewed to the right side.


Heya Izzy, it is looking ok here.




Not adonde!

Comment by Scoopster on 10/03/2008 16:55:08
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Scoopster:

So uhh.. yeah!



Quasi-strokes or face-twitching robots. You decide!
Too funny.



I know Sarah was doing a fundie wink... MCCain on the other hand... that was, imo signs of a TIA. (mini stroke)



Heh.. and that tabac-chewin' grin she has too. How can you not see that and think Heart-attack Dick?

Comment by clintster on 10/03/2008 17:02:15
n case you forgot, "An American Carol" is out this weekend. Apparently it wasn't screened for critics, but it didn't stop one person for already sending his review to Ain't It Cool News.

Comment by IzzyBitz on 10/03/2008 17:07:22
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by IzzyBitz:

Lizz is on Sirius 109 right now. Being from Minnesota, she does an awesome Sarah Palin!



WTF is wrong with bloggie. It is all skewed to the right side.


Did you hear any of her filling in for Alex Bennett?




Yep. I saw your mention of it on yesterday's blog and tuned in. Thank ye! She's coming to the wild west soon, hopefully in a theatre near me.



I think Mondo is listening to Celine Dion...

Comment by BobR on 10/03/2008 17:10:08
This made me laugh out loud:



http://www.comics.com/comics/getfuzzy/archive/images/getfuzzy2008114673003.gif


Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 17:12:42
Everytime I read or listen to a Dr. Talk about this Cancer thing with McCAin, I keep hoping to hear SOMETHING hopeful, and it just gets worse and worse from what I am hearing.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/03/2008 17:12:55
Quote by IzzyBitz:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by IzzyBitz:

Lizz is on Sirius 109 right now. Being from Minnesota, she does an awesome Sarah Palin!



WTF is wrong with bloggie. It is all skewed to the right side.


Did you hear any of her filling in for Alex Bennett?




Yep. I saw your mention of it on yesterday's blog and tuned in. Thank ye! She's coming to the wild west soon, hopefully in a theatre near me.



I think Mondo is listening to Celine Dion...




:breaths into Starbucks cup ala Jim Ward: Don't make me destroy you!



Comment by Mondobubba on 10/03/2008 17:14:28
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Scoopster:

So uhh.. yeah!



Quasi-strokes or face-twitching robots. You decide!
Too funny.



I know Sarah was doing a fundie wink... MCCain on the other hand... that was, imo signs of a TIA. (mini stroke)



Heh.. and that tabac-chewin' grin she has too. How can you not see that and think Heart-attack Dick?




Tabac? Scoop she's from Alaska. She chews whale blubber!

Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 17:15:48
Quote by clintster:

n case you forgot, "An American Carol" is out this weekend. Apparently it wasn't screened for critics, but it didn't stop one person for already sending his review to Ain't It Cool News.


:rofl: "The comedy here is about as edgy as a Comedy Central roast of Gallagher."

Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 17:18:35
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by IzzyBitz:

Lizz is on Sirius 109 right now. Being from Minnesota, she does an awesome Sarah Palin!



WTF is wrong with bloggie. It is all skewed to the right side.


Heya Izzy, it is looking ok here.




Not adonde!
No? you too? Could it be one of those Plane images posted earlier?



Comment by livingonli on 10/03/2008 17:19:13
Quote by Raine:

Quote by clintster:

n case you forgot, "An American Carol" is out this weekend. Apparently it wasn't screened for critics, but it didn't stop one person for already sending his review to Ain't It Cool News.


:rofl: "The comedy here is about as edgy as a Comedy Central roast of Gallagher."


It hasn't showed up yet on Rotten Tomatoes because there were no advance screenings. If Zucker feels this film is so important why is he afraid to pre-screen it or does he think all the movie critics have a liberal bias?



I loved the comparison to the Fox News Half-Hour Comedy Hour and we know how successful that was.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/03/2008 17:20:14
Quote by Raine:

Quote by TriSec:

"Team of Mavericks"



Isn't that an oxymoron?



Given that a "maverick" is defined as "an independent individual who does not go along with a group or party", that doesn't seem very team-friendly now, does it?



Anarchists Unite! :metal:







:rofl:



Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 17:27:43
Was it "Kenny G plays Coltrane"?



A Love Supreme.





Comment by BobR on 10/03/2008 17:35:08
Quote by TriSec:

Was it "Kenny G plays Coltrane"?



A Love Supreme.





Brubeck interprets The Bangles... :P

Comment by Shane-O on 10/03/2008 17:36:12
Quote by BobR:

Quote by TriSec:

Was it "Kenny G plays Coltrane"?



A Love Supreme.





Brubeck interprets The Bangles... :P


Miles covering Cindi Lauper songs?



Comment by IzzyBitz on 10/03/2008 17:37:50
Why do I feel like the government just shoved a baseball bat up my ass?

Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 17:38:28
OK, now this is pretty cool...





Comment by Mondobubba on 10/03/2008 17:38:44
Quote by TriSec:

Was it "Kenny G plays Coltrane"?



A Love Supreme.







Again you wound me, with the Kenny G, Sir. What did I do to derserve this? Oh I know, it is the libertarian snark. Ok we're even!



A Love Supreme, by the Master, the one, the only John Coletrane

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/03/2008 17:40:00
Quote by TriSec:

OK, now this is pretty cool...









Yeah it is.

Comment by Shane-O on 10/03/2008 17:40:22
Quote by TriSec:

OK, now this is pretty cool...





That is TOO cool...



Comment by IzzyBitz on 10/03/2008 17:45:17
Quote by BobR:

Quote by TriSec:

Was it "Kenny G plays Coltrane"?



A Love Supreme.





Brubeck interprets The Bangles... :P




Dizzy G. does Paris H.

Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 17:45:44
Just setting the table for my best Haiku ever.



"G thinks he can play

Syncopation and blue notes

He only blows goats"



:peace:





Comment by BobR on 10/03/2008 17:47:01
Quote by TriSec:

OK, now this is pretty cool...





Visually - very cool indeed.



However it reinforces my opinion of jazz (that kind anyway) that it sounds like everyone is just playing sequences of notes that have no basis in what everyone else is playing. It's so disassociated that it sounds like a big aural mess. Is there actually a song in there?... any structure?...



:shrug:



go ahead - tell me what a philistine I am...



Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 17:48:41
Palin can READ. ThinkProgress NAILS what happened last night.


For Sarah Palin, last night’s debate was an open-book exam. She spent much of the evening methodically reading and rehearsing answers from “carefully scripted talking points.” Palin’s notes were largely hidden from plain view, resting behind the lectern where she stood.



Because the cable and network television stations did not show a split screen of the debate, most viewers could not see that, during Joe Biden’s answers, Palin spent almost all her time looking down and studiously reading her notes. But viewers did see that when Palin delivered her answers, she would repeatedly glance down to check her talking points.
(more a the link, as well as MORE links...)



This debate was a fraud. A fraud passsed on to the American public. How pathetic is that? She is worse than Dubya, at least dubya knows how to screw up on his own.



I remember in High School, this was called CHEATING.







Comment by Mondobubba on 10/03/2008 17:49:26
Quote by BobR:

Quote by TriSec:

OK, now this is pretty cool...





Visually - very cool indeed.



However it reinforces my opinion of jazz (that kind anyway) that it sounds like everyone is just playing sequences of notes that have no basis in what everyone else is playing. It's so disassociated that it sounds like a big aural mess. Is there actually a song in there?... any structure?...



:shrug:



go ahead - tell me what a philistine I am...





Jimmy Christmas Bobber you have ears, but you were not listening! Yes & Yes.



Comment by Mondobubba on 10/03/2008 17:50:28
Tri, what say we converge on Atlanta and do for Bobber aurally what I used to threaten MGM with?

Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 17:52:20
I think it would MOST awesome if Joe Biden said, on the campaign trail..."I am gonna speak from my heart, and not my debate cheat sheets, here FOLKS...."

Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/03/2008 17:52:55
Quote by Raine:

Palin can READ. ThinkProgress NAILS what happened last night.


For Sarah Palin, last night’s debate was an open-book exam. She spent much of the evening methodically reading and rehearsing answers from “carefully scripted talking points.” Palin’s notes were largely hidden from plain view, resting behind the lectern where she stood.



Because the cable and network television stations did not show a split screen of the debate, most viewers could not see that, during Joe Biden’s answers, Palin spent almost all her time looking down and studiously reading her notes. But viewers did see that when Palin delivered her answers, she would repeatedly glance down to check her talking points.
(more a the link, as well as MORE links...)



This debate was a fraud. A fraud passsed on to the American public. How pathetic is that? She is worse than Dubya, at least dubya knows how to screw up on his own.



I remember in High School, this was called CHEATING.









So are they saying that what was shown on CSPAN was not the same thing that was shown on the other networks? Because I thought I saw a lot of split-screen AND a lot of Milfy looking down and/or smirking



Comment by Mondobubba on 10/03/2008 18:01:08
It was more that she was reading her note during Biden's answers, she actually read a flash card or what have you during one of her answers. I was appalled.

Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 18:01:50
Question for the Blog, when we call her *milfy* we are saying that Ironically, right? WE don't REALLY regard her as a MILF, do we? Do we?

Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 18:01:55
Quote by BobR:



Visually - very cool indeed.



However it reinforces my opinion of jazz (that kind anyway) that it sounds like everyone is just playing sequences of notes that have no basis in what everyone else is playing. It's so disassociated that it sounds like a big aural mess. Is there actually a song in there?... any structure?...



:shrug:



go ahead - tell me what a philistine I am...





This is like me not drinking lattes, right?





savages....





We still haven't resolved why you would need to learn tunes in a different key...



(Suppose Bird called "Scrapple from the Apple in Db minor?)



Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 18:03:23
I told you my MILF story, right? (get out of the ditch.)



My family is from Mindanao....for the longest time, MILF was "Moro Islamic Liberation Front".



Imagine my surprise the first time I plugged that into a search engine...





Comment by BobR on 10/03/2008 18:04:28
Quote by Mondobubba:



Jimmy Christmas Bobber you have ears, but you were not listening! Yes & Yes.



I listened to as much as I could stand.



It started off nice, and then it became completely freeform. I can read music, which is why I found the video interesting, but it reinforced in me the notion that it's a bunch of rambly noodling, with no recurring melodic theme. If that's what you like, more power to ya, but to me it's the musical equivalent of 4 people having a stream of conciousness rant, all at the same time.



Big Band jazz, ragtime, dixieland all have structure, they have charts. The noodling is a solo that is not the entire song, it is a break in the song.



Different strokes for different folks, but avante garde and freeform jazz do not stroke me in the least.



Comment by Shane-O on 10/03/2008 18:05:33
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by BobR:



Visually - very cool indeed.



However it reinforces my opinion of jazz (that kind anyway) that it sounds like everyone is just playing sequences of notes that have no basis in what everyone else is playing. It's so disassociated that it sounds like a big aural mess. Is there actually a song in there?... any structure?...



:shrug:



go ahead - tell me what a philistine I am...





This is like me not drinking lattes, right?





savages....





We still haven't resolved why you would need to learn tunes in a different key...



(Suppose Bird called "Scrapple from the Apple in Db minor?)



I always thought the keys of standards were moved for vocalists -- to fit into their range...?



Comment by BobR on 10/03/2008 18:08:34
Quote by TriSec:



This is like me not drinking lattes, right?



savages....



We still haven't resolved why you would need to learn tunes in a different key...



(Suppose Bird called "Scrapple from the Apple in Db minor?)



The only reason I can think of playing a song in a different key is if there is a defined vocal melody that is not in the range of the singer. In that case, you'd want to transpose it up or down so the singer could sing it comfortably.



I have a lot of trouble singing most rock and pop songs because they're a little too high for my vocal range. It's not always so easy to transpose them because the guitar riffs tend to be based on certain strings being open. You can use a capo sometimes, but not always.



Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/03/2008 18:14:06
Quote by Raine:

Question for the Blog, when we call her *milfy* we are saying that Ironically, right? WE don't REALLY regard her as a MILF, do we? Do we?




Probably only applies to the 22%'ers. Or is that the 21%'ers. Or is that the 20%'ers.....



Aw, the heck with it. I'll just call her Caribou like the rest of youse guys & gals.



Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 18:16:43
Changing gears....I'm such an av-dork.



Here's my current wallpaper.



Tell me if the plane is taking off or landing, and how you can tell from the photo.





Comment by Shane-O on 10/03/2008 18:20:36
Also, some keys are considered brighter - others warmer - some dark (given "well-temperment")



And of course, D minor is the saddest of all keys...

Comment by Shane-O on 10/03/2008 18:25:19
Quote by TriSec:

Changing gears....I'm such an av-dork.



Here's my current wallpaper.



Tell me if the plane is taking off or landing, and how you can tell from the photo.





Landing? Flaps are down...?



Comment by Mondobubba on 10/03/2008 18:25:55
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Mondobubba:



Jimmy Christmas Bobber you have ears, but you were not listening! Yes & Yes.



I listened to as much as I could stand.



It started off nice, and then it became completely freeform. I can read music, which is why I found the video interesting, but it reinforced in me the notion that it's a bunch of rambly noodling, with no recurring melodic theme. If that's what you like, more power to ya, but to me it's the musical equivalent of 4 people having a stream of conciousness rant, all at the same time.



Big Band jazz, ragtime, dixieland all have structure, they have charts. The noodling is a solo that is not the entire song, it is a break in the song.



Different strokes for different folks, but avante garde and freeform jazz do not stroke me in the least.





Bobber, not to pick a nit or anything but, Giant Steps is hardly avante garde or free jazz. Now Coltrane's "Accension" is a different story entirely. I listened to it once, no twice, I got the idea of what Coletrane was trying to do, break away from the constrant of chord structure and explore pure melody. The Big Problem with Accension is Trane also got away from time. There is no central beat to pin every thing on.



I still find a lot of what Ornette Coleman does to be very confusing. Some of his disciples like Shannon Jackson when he was doing the Decoding Society I really dig. But that is because it is really loud. Plus the very young Vernon Reid was one of his guitar players at the time. I saw them live when I was in college. OMG that group smoked! The ideas were flying around the club.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/03/2008 18:27:40
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by TriSec:

Changing gears....I'm such an av-dork.



Here's my current wallpaper.



Tell me if the plane is taking off or landing, and how you can tell from the photo.





Landing? Flaps are down...?





I looked and to be honest I could tell. I'm gonna go with landing.



Comment by Mondobubba on 10/03/2008 18:30:05
Quote by Shane-O:

Also, some keys are considered brighter - others warmer - some dark (given "well-temperment")



And of course, D minor is the saddest of all keys...






Yeah "Lick My Love Pump" is in D minor! :rofl:

Comment by BobR on 10/03/2008 18:35:32
Quote by TriSec:

Changing gears....I'm such an av-dork.



Here's my current wallpaper.



Tell me if the plane is taking off or landing, and how you can tell from the photo.





based on the rear wheels not in landing position and the pitch of the nose, I'll say taking off...

Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 18:37:51
Quote by trojanrabbit:

Quote by Raine:

Question for the Blog, when we call her *milfy* we are saying that Ironically, right? WE don't REALLY regard her as a MILF, do we? Do we?




Probably only applies to the 22%'ers. Or is that the 21%'ers. Or is that the 20%'ers.....



Aw, the heck with it. I'll just call her Caribou like the rest of youse guys & gals.

NAw, CAll her what you want... tis alright with me, I just wanted to CLARIFY !



I mean is she REALLY a MILF?



LEt me put it this way...Matthew McConaughey became a Filf earlier this year... but only if he doesn't talk...







Comment by BobR on 10/03/2008 18:39:50
Quote by Mondobubba:





Bobber, not to pick a nit or anything but, Giant Steps is hardly avante garde or free jazz. Now Coltrane's "Accension" is a different story entirely. I listened to it once, no twice, I got the idea of what Coletrane was trying to do, break away from the constrant of chord structure and explore pure melody. The Big Problem with Accension is Trane also got away from time. There is no central beat to pin every thing on.



I still find a lot of what Ornette Coleman does to be very confusing. Some of his disciples like Shannon Jackson when he was doing the Decoding Society I really dig. But that is because it is really loud. Plus the very young Vernon Reid was one of his guitar players at the time. I saw them live when I was in college. OMG that group smoked! The ideas were flying around the club.


I never said anything about Giant Steps; I was referring to the music in the video, and other similar music of that genre...

Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 18:42:48
Ah, I'm all about modal jazz; that's very easy to pick up and a lot of the soloing seems to just float along. Pentatonics work over most of that, too.



GS is more of a rite of passage (It's still "ordinary" bop, but it's very fast and there's two chords per measure, so there's a whopping 24 changes over the course of the chorus.



Trane was doing a lot of what's called "change-running" over the form; pay close attention and you'll see the same pattern repeated over and over. That's a dexterity trick, used a lot during fast passages.





Obama's jet is climbing out; all the gear doors are open, and look closely at the left gear, it's starting to retract. Also, a plane at that altitude in the landing configuration would have full flap; the flaps here appear fully-retracted or down a degree or two at most. (Normal takeoff configuration for a jetliner is about 3º of flap, unless it's very hot or very high altitude.)



Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 18:46:09
I love Thom, have I mentioned that this week?

Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 18:50:53
Quote by Shane-O:

Also, some keys are considered brighter - others warmer - some dark (given "well-temperment")



And of course, D minor is the saddest of all keys...


I hope D Minor never gets together with the number one --- I see nothing good happening from that relationship...



(I will go to the penalty box ONLY if a I get called for a major foul) ;)

Comment by livingonli on 10/03/2008 18:51:15
Quote by Raine:

Quote by trojanrabbit:

Quote by Raine:

Question for the Blog, when we call her *milfy* we are saying that Ironically, right? WE don't REALLY regard her as a MILF, do we? Do we?




Probably only applies to the 22%'ers. Or is that the 21%'ers. Or is that the 20%'ers.....



Aw, the heck with it. I'll just call her Caribou like the rest of youse guys & gals.

NAw, CAll her what you want... tis alright with me, I just wanted to CLARIFY !



I mean is she REALLY a MILF?



LEt me put it this way...Matthew McConaughey became a Filf earlier this year... but only if he doesn't talk...









Well to John McCain, she's a MiLF. :airhump:



Didn't this start with Momma calling her Milfy McMooseburger?



Comment by Mondobubba on 10/03/2008 18:54:26
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Mondobubba:





Bobber, not to pick a nit or anything but, Giant Steps is hardly avante garde or free jazz. Now Coltrane's "Accension" is a different story entirely. I listened to it once, no twice, I got the idea of what Coletrane was trying to do, break away from the constrant of chord structure and explore pure melody. The Big Problem with Accension is Trane also got away from time. There is no central beat to pin every thing on.



I still find a lot of what Ornette Coleman does to be very confusing. Some of his disciples like Shannon Jackson when he was doing the Decoding Society I really dig. But that is because it is really loud. Plus the very young Vernon Reid was one of his guitar players at the time. I saw them live when I was in college. OMG that group smoked! The ideas were flying around the club.


I never said anything about Giant Steps; I was referring to the music in the video, and other similar music of that genre...




Well gee, ya see I am the Dem HQ and they haven't heard of these things called "speakers." I am assuming that a video clip that shows the sheet music for "Giant Steps" would feature the tune. I am correct in my assumption, Tri?



Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/03/2008 18:55:25
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by trojanrabbit:

Quote by Raine:

Question for the Blog, when we call her *milfy* we are saying that Ironically, right? WE don't REALLY regard her as a MILF, do we? Do we?




Probably only applies to the 22%'ers. Or is that the 21%'ers. Or is that the 20%'ers.....



Aw, the heck with it. I'll just call her Caribou like the rest of youse guys & gals.

NAw, CAll her what you want... tis alright with me, I just wanted to CLARIFY !



I mean is she REALLY a MILF?



LEt me put it this way...Matthew McConaughey became a Filf earlier this year... but only if he doesn't talk...









Well to John McCain, she's a MiLF. :airhump:



Didn't this start with Momma calling her Milfy McMooseburger?





All I remember is seeing another McMooseburger name on the liveblog and I stuck Milfy in front of it instead. I can't hear the actual show so I don't know if it was brought up before then so I'm kinda skittish about taking any credit for the name.



Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 18:55:45


Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 19:03:03
Bite me *ush.



Just bite me. (listening to the idiot in chief telling America that we have to carefully provide oversite ..)



Oh yeah. and you can bite me too, John keating 5 McCain. You lying sack of crap pig.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/03/2008 19:10:09
Quote by TriSec:

Ah, I'm all about modal jazz; that's very easy to pick up and a lot of the soloing seems to just float along. Pentatonics work over most of that, too.



GS is more of a rite of passage (It's still "ordinary" bop, but it's very fast and there's two chords per measure, so there's a whopping 24 changes over the course of the chorus.



Trane was doing a lot of what's called "change-running" over the form; pay close attention and you'll see the same pattern repeated over and over. That's a dexterity trick, used a lot during fast passages.





Obama's jet is climbing out; all the gear doors are open, and look closely at the left gear, it's starting to retract. Also, a plane at that altitude in the landing configuration would have full flap; the flaps here appear fully-retracted or down a degree or two at most. (Normal takeoff configuration for a jetliner is about 3º of flap, unless it's very hot or very high altitude.)





There is one tune I can think of offhand that is faster than GS, a Bird / Dizzy ditty called "Leapfroggin' with Lee." It is 2:30 of pure one upsmanship by the two soloists. I'm not sure what the changes are based on, Tri you might know. It is blazingly fast. :thud:

Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 19:10:09
It's Friday!!! Bounce ya bastahds!!!

:boobs2::boobs2::boobs2::boobs2:

:boobs2::boobs2::boobs2::boobs2:

:boobs2::boobs2::boobs2::boobs2::boobs2::boobs2:

:boobs2::boobs2::boobs2::boobs2::boobs2::boobs2::boobs2:

:martini: :guitar:

:boobs2::boobs2::boobs2::boobs2::boobs2:

:boobs2::boobs2::boobs2:

:boobs2::boobs2::boobs2::boobs2::boobs2:

:boobs2::boobs2::boobs2::boobs2::boobs2::boobs2::boobs2:

You betcha Joe!







Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 19:12:47
:rofl: I am already Loving Randi... What the HELL was with that SUPERSIZED flag pin?

Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 19:14:29
HA! PLEASE PLEASE let us have a few more weeks of Tina Fey!

Comment by livingonli on 10/03/2008 19:17:42
I'm too pooped to bounce.

Comment by Scoopster on 10/03/2008 19:19:33
Oh well.. congratulations folks - your elected officials have just handed over a shitload of money to a Wall Street stooge.



:grumble: My butt hurts.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/03/2008 19:20:53
Quote by Raine:

:rofl: I am already Loving Randi... What the HELL was with that SUPERSIZED flag pin?




When I started watch last night I thought that she had on the tacky over sized flag pin again. That thing is oogly!



I am outta here! I've done as much data entry as I can take. I am going home. Catch you cats & kittens on flip side!

Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 19:23:58
Randi just asked, 'What did you learn regrding the debate... Well, I did learn something.



I learned that Sarah Palin is nothing more than a press secretary. Seriously, she sounds MORE like Puffy than Puffy MCMoonface EVER did, and damn, she cleans the floor with Dana Perino.



Sarah is nothing more than John McCain's press secretary. She is too arrogant and full of her own self importance to realize that.

Comment by Scoopster on 10/03/2008 19:26:45
Heh.. from Gallup's website:

PRINCETON, NJ -- Independent women who are Catholic, middle aged, not college graduates, of average religiosity, and of mid-range incomes are most evenly split in their presidential candidate choices, and thus may be most "up for grabs" in the remaining weeks of the campaign.








Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 19:31:32
Curious...the Dow was up by hundreds of points for most of the day.



Then as soon as the bill passes, the market tanks for the day.



*sniff*



Not sure this is passing that test...







Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 19:34:35
Quote by Scoopster:

Heh.. from Gallup's website:

PRINCETON, NJ -- Independent women who are Catholic, middle aged, not college graduates, of average religiosity, and of mid-range incomes are most evenly split in their presidential candidate choices, and thus may be most "up for grabs" in the remaining weeks of the campaign.








Wha??? Does that mean the 'one eyed, one horned, flying purple eater's wearing a yellow polka dot bikini' vote is going for McCain?



Damn we are really in trouble folks.

Comment by Scoopster on 10/03/2008 19:37:41
Quote by TriSec:

Curious...the Dow was up by hundreds of points for most of the day.



Then as soon as the bill passes, the market tanks for the day.



*sniff*



Not sure this is passing that test...





Well it's sorta like Congress is confirming the fact that... well.. we're fucked.



Comment by BobR on 10/03/2008 19:45:10
Quote by Mondobubba:





Well gee, ya see I am the Dem HQ and they haven't heard of these things called "speakers." I am assuming that a video clip that shows the sheet music for "Giant Steps" would feature the tune. I am correct in my assumption, Tri?



Ah - I was so intrigued by the notes dancing in seemingly random progressions across the staves, I completely missed the title of the "song" (if you can call it that).



You may not call it "avante garde" or "free form", but it induces in me the same glazed eye lack of interest as those tiresome styles.



:yawn:





Comment by BobR on 10/03/2008 19:49:19
Quote by TriSec:

Ah, I'm all about modal jazz; that's very easy to pick up and a lot of the soloing seems to just float along. Pentatonics work over most of that, too.



GS is more of a rite of passage (It's still "ordinary" bop, but it's very fast and there's two chords per measure, so there's a whopping 24 changes over the course of the chorus.



Trane was doing a lot of what's called "change-running" over the form; pay close attention and you'll see the same pattern repeated over and over. That's a dexterity trick, used a lot during fast passages.



All very nice from an intellectual point of view, but I still find it all very tiresome to listen to. It's like speed-metal for the chardonnay set.





Obama's jet is climbing out; all the gear doors are open, and look closely at the left gear, it's starting to retract. Also, a plane at that altitude in the landing configuration would have full flap; the flaps here appear fully-retracted or down a degree or two at most. (Normal takeoff configuration for a jetliner is about 3º of flap, unless it's very hot or very high altitude.)



So do I get the coveted blog bonus points?

Comment by Scoopster on 10/03/2008 19:50:33
National Review's Rich Lowry think he's channelling Terrence McKenna on a DMT trip..



A very wise TV executive once told me that the key to TV is projecting through the screen. It's one of the keys to the success of, say, a Bill O'Reilly, who comes through the screen and grabs you by the throat. Palin too projects through the screen like crazy. I'm sure I'm not the only male in America who, when Palin dropped her first wink, sat up a little straighter on the couch and said, "Hey, I think she just winked at me." And her smile. By the end, when she clearly knew she was doing well, it was so sparkling it was almost mesmerizing. It sent little starbursts through the screen and ricocheting around the living rooms of America


Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 19:53:10
Let's just call it what is was, Sarah not only lied, she lied while cheating... that is even WORSE than anything she said to Katie, Sarah KNEW what she was doing last nite.



When she talked to Kaite she showed how woefully uninformed whe really was, when she spoke last nite, she still no more informed that the previous week, she instead, said what she was told to say... truth be damned or not.



She is a wretched human being. She makes the baby jesus weep.







Comment by velveeta jones on 10/03/2008 20:01:19
Hey "you guys and gals"! S'up? Apologies if this wonderful vid has been posted.





Comment by velveeta jones on 10/03/2008 20:02:48
Oh and Raine, check your PM in a bit. I'm about to go over yonder and send you mail.

Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 20:06:27
Quote by Scoopster:

National Review's Rich Lowry think he's channelling Terrence McKenna on a DMT trip..



A very wise TV executive once told me that the key to TV is projecting through the screen. It's one of the keys to the success of, say, a Bill O'Reilly, who comes through the screen and grabs you by the throat. Palin too projects through the screen like crazy. I'm sure I'm not the only male in America who, when Palin dropped her first wink, sat up a little straighter on the couch and said, "Hey, I think she just winked at me." And her smile. By the end, when she clearly knew she was doing well, it was so sparkling it was almost mesmerizing. It sent little starbursts through the screen and ricocheting around the living rooms of America
Grrr...



Let's make ONE thing VERY VERY clear. The GOP is embracing Sexism --- they are USING it to try to win. You think her super sexy outfit was a mistake last night? That was the first time we got to see more than an inch below her neck in weeks. That was NOT a mistake. They are trying to drag women decades back in time.



Treating a woman -- ANY woman that way in not acceptable. And --- among many reasons -- why I despise Sarah is that she is allowing herself to be treated like a stupid bitch with a perty face and tits -- by the GOP, and even more, by that misogynist, John McCain.



Am I pissed? you betcha Scoopy.

Comment by livingonli on 10/03/2008 20:07:26
So, according to Rich Lowry, Pat Buchanan, and such all the right-wingers think that men were like them and spanking themselves to their Sarah fantasies.



I guess that's why they think mAnn Coulter is hot.



On that note, off to the salt mine (if not the penalty box).

Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 20:09:56
I'm betting we should leave Bob out of the next blog discussion about the genius of Charlie Parker?





Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 20:12:44
Quote by Scoopster:

National Review's Rich Lowry think he's channelling Terrence McKenna on a DMT trip..



A very wise TV executive once told me that the key to TV is projecting through the screen. It's one of the keys to the success of, say, a Bill O'Reilly, who comes through the screen and grabs you by the throat. Palin too projects through the screen like crazy. I'm sure I'm not the only male in America who, when Palin dropped her first wink, sat up a little straighter on the couch and said, "Hey, I think she just winked at me." And her smile. By the end, when she clearly knew she was doing well, it was so sparkling it was almost mesmerizing. It sent little starbursts through the screen and ricocheting around the living rooms of America
Oh, and one more thing...



So basically Rich Lowry IS gonna hold his dick and drink a beer when he votes?



Pigs. PIGS!!!

And I can joke with the best of us... I know we were kidding about milfy... I do... but this...THIS???



Dude, needs to take his erotic fanstsies and go back to his bedroom. I really don't need to know that he along with the rest of ignorant redneck America jacked off last nite to Sarah Palin.



These men need to get this straight... Woman are 51% of the majority.



Comment by velveeta jones on 10/03/2008 20:23:07
Good grief! Rich Lowry is an ASS!



And I just watched the FIX News video of Palin where she complains about Katie Couric "annoying" her! If she gets annoyed and flustered by Katie Couric what happens when she has to meet with Putin and his large head!?!



In that same "interview" on FIX she goes on again about how she's not a "Washington insider", well, won't she be one if she becomes VP????



OMG! How can she be so freakin' dense!!!
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/angry032.gif






Comment by TriSec on 10/03/2008 20:32:21
Time to head out....Den meeting tonight, so I'm going to put on my uniform and impress the little kiddies!





Comment by BobR on 10/03/2008 20:36:30
Quote by TriSec:

I'm betting we should leave Bob out of the next blog discussion about the genius of Charlie Parker?





I don't doubt that he was a genius, I just don't like to listen to that style of music.

Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 20:39:28
Quote by velveeta jones:

Good grief! Rich Lowry is an ASS!



And I just watched the FIX News video of Palin where she complains about Katie Couric "annoying" her! If she gets annoyed and flustered by Katie Couric what happens when she has to meet with Putin and his large head!?!



In that same "interview" on FIX she goes on again about how she's not a "Washington insider", well, won't she be one if she becomes VP????



OMG! How can she be so freakin' dense!!!
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/angry032.gif




Katie Annoyed her?



Wow. How EVER will she handle her reality show (debuting in 2009)??



Comment by Raine on 10/03/2008 20:51:01
Seriously. John McCain says he has experience dealing with Latin America because he dated a woman from Brazil over 50 years ago.

Comment by velveeta jones on 10/03/2008 21:22:35
Quote by Raine:

Seriously. John McCain says he has experience dealing with Latin America because he dated a woman from Brazil over 50 years ago.




WHAT?



:thud:

Comment by BobR on 10/03/2008 21:34:33
So McCain fucking a Brazilian whore, and being locked in a cage for 4 years gives him all the experience he needs??

Comment by Random on 10/03/2008 21:38:54
Has anyon here been to FiveThirtyEight? A truly wonderful sight, and makes a stat's junky like me VERY happy, in the same way Pat was happy about Palin last night.

Comment by IzzyBitz on 10/03/2008 21:39:49
Quote by Raine:

Question for the Blog, when we call her *milfy* we are saying that Ironically, right? WE don't REALLY regard her as a MILF, do we? Do we?




Minus the fucked up thoughts in her head, she is a milf, a rather attractive lass. However, after talking to her, any thoughts of her being hot would pass quickly. I've ridden a crazy train or two, but not that scary crazy.

Comment by IzzyBitz on 10/03/2008 21:41:47
Quote by BobR:

So McCain fucking a Brazilian whore, and being locked in a cage for 4 years gives him all the experience he needs??




If so, I'm half-way there, but she wasn't a whore.

Comment by BobR on 10/03/2008 21:43:50
Quote by IzzyBitz:





If so, I'm half-way there, but she wasn't a whore.


then:

Comment by Random on 10/03/2008 21:44:17
Quote by IzzyBitz:

Quote by Raine:

Question for the Blog, when we call her *milfy* we are saying that Ironically, right? WE don't REALLY regard her as a MILF, do we? Do we?




Minus the fucked up thoughts in her head, she is a milf, a rather attractive lass. However, after talking to her, any thoughts of her being hot would pass quickly. I've ridden a crazy train or two, but not that scary crazy.


As the official Semi-Adolescent Male, she is a MILF

Comment by Random on 10/03/2008 22:33:26
I...just...

No Comment

The picture...scares me...

Comment by Random on 10/03/2008 22:36:47
How Sarah didn't Fail

Comment by clintster on 10/04/2008 00:22:35
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3057/2908222431_762e078b5e.jpg


Comment by velveeta jones on 10/04/2008 01:35:28
Quote by clintster:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3057/2908222431_762e078b5e.jpg


:rofl:



OMG.......... so true!

Comment by livingonli on 10/04/2008 01:42:19
Is your wife a goer? Does she take photographs?



Nudge Nudge Wink Wink. Say no more!

Comment by clintster on 10/04/2008 02:47:53
http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/political-pictures-sarah-palin-john-mccain-look-shiny-object.jpg


Comment by BobR on 10/04/2008 04:13:49
Comment by Raine on 10/04/2008 04:16:05
I HIGHLY recommend the movie, Religulous!



I laughed, I cried, I saw Jesus and the creationist museum...



VERY good film!

Comment by Random on 10/04/2008 04:23:47
Quote by Raine:

I HIGHLY recommend the movie, Religulous!



I laughed, I cried, I saw Jesus and the creationist museum...



VERY good film!


No.

Comment by livingonli on 10/04/2008 04:30:53
Quote by Raine:

I HIGHLY recommend the movie, Religulous!



I laughed, I cried, I saw Jesus and the creationist museum...



VERY good film!


Is Jesus down with the dinosaurs?

Comment by BobR on 10/04/2008 04:36:22
Quote by livingonli:



Is Jesus down with the dinosaurs?


Don't you know? They all died in the flood because they wouldn't get on the ark...

Comment by Raine on 10/04/2008 04:38:32
Comment by livingonli on 10/04/2008 04:46:11
Quote by BobR:

Quote by livingonli:



Is Jesus down with the dinosaurs?


Don't you know? They all died in the flood because they wouldn't get on the ark...


That brontosaurus was just too stubborn. I thought God would shrink them to make them small enough to fit.

Comment by Raine on 10/04/2008 04:54:38
Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

I HIGHLY recommend the movie, Religulous!



I laughed, I cried, I saw Jesus and the creationist museum...



VERY good film!


No.




Comment by BobR on 10/04/2008 05:07:29
How's THIS for "MILFY"?



http://i1.neilrogers.com/images/features/2008092601-palinsourpuss.jpg


Comment by Raine on 10/04/2008 05:26:52
Quote by BobR:

How's THIS for "MILFY"?



http://i1.neilrogers.com/images/features/2008092601-palinsourpuss.jpg


It's after midnite? HAve the kids gone home?



Good. (consider this a warning)



OK, that picture looks like someone came in Sarah's mouth and she needs tissue, fast.



I can hear her saying... Taaahd, I'm Sorry But I have to abort your babies from my mouth :::gag::: (I still hold the hope that it's todd she is talking to.)



And now, I will stay in the penalty box for the entire weekend.





Comment by Raine on 10/04/2008 05:56:57
Shelagh on RAchel NOW!!!

Comment by livingonli on 10/04/2008 06:08:53
And OJ has been found guilty. What a weird time for a verdict to come over.

Comment by livingonli on 10/04/2008 06:10:19
Quote by Raine:

Quote by BobR:

How's THIS for "MILFY"?



http://i1.neilrogers.com/images/features/2008092601-palinsourpuss.jpg


It's after midnite? HAve the kids gone home?



Good. (consider this a warning)



OK, that picture looks like someone came in Sarah's mouth and she needs tissue, fast.



I can hear her saying... Taaahd, I'm Sorry But I have to abort your babies from my mouth :::gag::: (I still hold the hope that it's todd she is talking to.)



And now, I will stay in the penalty box for the entire weekend.





So she is the uptight librarian in the porno film.

Comment by livingonli on 10/04/2008 06:19:58
Maybe she should swallow instead of spit.



*skates off to penalty box*

Comment by Raine on 10/04/2008 07:13:34
:yawn:



I had a Serious Comment on the message board about Melamine.



George Bush and the FDA deserve to go to hell. Serious... They decided to put my NEWEST loverly nephew in danger.



Fuck them.



I don't know about hell.. but I believe in Karma.