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McCacca
Author: BobR
Date: 10/08/2008 12:32:50
"THAT one"...
It was a tossed off comment in the middle of a sentence. It wasn't the centerpiece of McCain's response. During the debate, McCain was trying to make a point, and - to distinguish himself from Obama - pointed in his direction (without looking at him) and referred to Obama as "THAT one". It was dismissive in a very insulting way and it highlighted McCain's disdain for Obama.
See for yourself:
Could this be the "macacca" moment of his campaign?
For those with short memories, in the 2004 election, former senator George Allen (R-VA) pointed at a member of the press and said "say hello to Maccaca over there". That particular member of the press was NOT white. This dismissive tossed-off comment highlighted Allen's casual bigotry and arrogance, and may have cost him the election.
In McCain's case, it is just another clear instance of his disdain for Obama. He certainly didn't help himself post-debate when he ignored Obama's friendly overture of a handshake:
(note: not the first time McCain tried to avoid a handshake from Obama...)
These may be little, but they offer glimpses into the soul of McCain, and the view is not pretty. They display an angry little man, furious that he is being beaten by someone he clearly considers his lesser. Whether that opinion is based in bigotry, Obama's age and short time in DC, or is just a result of McCain's inflated self-importance cannot be known with any certainty... but it certainly reflects on how his temperament would affect his potential presidency.
His supporters are worse, of course, and there seems to be a certain downward spiral of decency and decorum as the hatred feeds on itself. At a recent McCain rally, a supporter clearly refers to Obama as a terrorist, and McCain just goes with the flow:
(bold-face mine)
Where McCain opens the door and lets the miscreants in, Palin grabs a bullhorn and hollars "get yer red meat her, yoo betcha!". As noted by Dana Milbanks:
That last comment is telling. When a politician exudes hatred, his (or her) supporters take that hate and amplify it and spew it back out. These audience reactions are a direct result of McCain and Palin winking and saying "it's okay to hate. Look at me." It's a license to kill. Fortunately, the secret service is taking that "kill him" comment seriously and are investigating.
So while the ugly core of McCain's supporters will abosrb the "THAT one" comment and use it as fuel for their hatred, one can only hope that through media and word of mouth, McCain's casual dismissal of his opponent will open the eyes of the undecideds, and help them realize what sort of person McCain really is.
Unpresidential... hateful... racist...
McCacca.
It was a tossed off comment in the middle of a sentence. It wasn't the centerpiece of McCain's response. During the debate, McCain was trying to make a point, and - to distinguish himself from Obama - pointed in his direction (without looking at him) and referred to Obama as "THAT one". It was dismissive in a very insulting way and it highlighted McCain's disdain for Obama.
See for yourself:
Could this be the "macacca" moment of his campaign?
For those with short memories, in the 2004 election, former senator George Allen (R-VA) pointed at a member of the press and said "say hello to Maccaca over there". That particular member of the press was NOT white. This dismissive tossed-off comment highlighted Allen's casual bigotry and arrogance, and may have cost him the election.
In McCain's case, it is just another clear instance of his disdain for Obama. He certainly didn't help himself post-debate when he ignored Obama's friendly overture of a handshake:
(note: not the first time McCain tried to avoid a handshake from Obama...)
These may be little, but they offer glimpses into the soul of McCain, and the view is not pretty. They display an angry little man, furious that he is being beaten by someone he clearly considers his lesser. Whether that opinion is based in bigotry, Obama's age and short time in DC, or is just a result of McCain's inflated self-importance cannot be known with any certainty... but it certainly reflects on how his temperament would affect his potential presidency.
His supporters are worse, of course, and there seems to be a certain downward spiral of decency and decorum as the hatred feeds on itself. At a recent McCain rally, a supporter clearly refers to Obama as a terrorist, and McCain just goes with the flow:
McCain asked the crowd "who is Barack Obama?" Immediately you hear a supporter yell "terrorist." McCain pauses, the audience laughs, and McCain continues on, not acknowledging, not chastising, not correcting. Oh, but McCain does say in the next sentence that he's upset about all the "angry barrage of insults." Is McCain losing his mind, or just a liar?
[...]
We'll hear it said that McCain can't be held responsible for what people in his audiences say. Right. Cause it's never happened before. Oh wait, it did. When an audience member asked, speaking of Hillary Clinton, "How do we beat the bitch?" McCain said it was "an excellent question." McCain fosters hatred and negativity by not standing up to it. He should know better. It's appalling and is destroying whatever is left of his reputation
Where McCain opens the door and lets the miscreants in, Palin grabs a bullhorn and hollars "get yer red meat her, yoo betcha!". As noted by Dana Milbanks:
Barack Obama, she told 8,000 fans at a rally here Monday afternoon, "launched his political career in the living room of a domestic terrorist!" This followed her earlier accusation that the Democrat pals around with terrorists. "This is not a man who sees America the way you and I see America," she told the Clearwater crowd. "I'm afraid this is someone who sees America as imperfect enough to work with a former domestic terrorist who had targeted his own country." The crowd replied with boos.
[...]
Worse, Palin's routine attacks on the media have begun to spill into ugliness. In Clearwater, arriving reporters were greeted with shouts and taunts by the crowd of about 3,000. Palin then went on to blame Katie Couric's questions for her "less-than-successful interview with kinda mainstream media." At that, Palin supporters turned on reporters in the press area, waving thunder sticks and shouting abuse. Others hurled obscenities at a camera crew. One Palin supporter shouted a racial epithet at an African American sound man for a network and told him, "Sit down, boy."
[...]
The reception had been better in Clearwater, where Palin, speaking to a sea of "Palin Power" and "Sarahcuda" T-shirts, tried to link Obama to the 1960s Weather Underground. "One of his earliest supporters is a man named Bill Ayers," she said. ("Boooo!" said the crowd.) "And, according to the New York Times, he was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, 'launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol,' " she continued. ("Boooo!" the crowd repeated.)
"Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience.
That last comment is telling. When a politician exudes hatred, his (or her) supporters take that hate and amplify it and spew it back out. These audience reactions are a direct result of McCain and Palin winking and saying "it's okay to hate. Look at me." It's a license to kill. Fortunately, the secret service is taking that "kill him" comment seriously and are investigating.
So while the ugly core of McCain's supporters will abosrb the "THAT one" comment and use it as fuel for their hatred, one can only hope that through media and word of mouth, McCain's casual dismissal of his opponent will open the eyes of the undecideds, and help them realize what sort of person McCain really is.
Unpresidential... hateful... racist...
McCacca.
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Comment by 
clintster on 10/08/2008 12:40:39
clintster on 10/08/2008 12:40:39
Amazingly, no hangover! Mornin' everybody! Nice post, Bobber! Why am I using so many exclaimation points! I mean, ?
Comment by 
wickedpam on 10/08/2008 12:46:39
wickedpam on 10/08/2008 12:46:39
Morning :hug:
Good to see you standing this morning Clint
- what was it 13 "my friends" last night?
Good to see you standing this morning Clint
- what was it 13 "my friends" last night?
Comment by 
TriSec on 10/08/2008 12:48:11
TriSec on 10/08/2008 12:48:11
Morning, comrades!
I had a thought from last night....McCain was on and on about being a "cool hand at the tiller". I suppose it's an idiom of some kind, but realistically does anyone outside of the sailing community have any idea what a tiller is these days?
And of course, Edward J. Smith and William M. Murdoch were considered the most experienced, 'coolest hands on the tiller" back in their day, and look at what happened to them...
I had a thought from last night....McCain was on and on about being a "cool hand at the tiller". I suppose it's an idiom of some kind, but realistically does anyone outside of the sailing community have any idea what a tiller is these days?
And of course, Edward J. Smith and William M. Murdoch were considered the most experienced, 'coolest hands on the tiller" back in their day, and look at what happened to them...
Comment by 
m-hadley on 10/08/2008 12:48:31
m-hadley on 10/08/2008 12:48:31
McCaca - I love it :P
No wonder he and Cindy Lou were out of there like Bonnie & Clyde after a bank robbery :D
Cheers,
mfaye
:gobama:
Today is the birthday of loverly Rebekah :airhump:
:dance: :hug:
No wonder he and Cindy Lou were out of there like Bonnie & Clyde after a bank robbery :D
Cheers,
mfaye
:gobama:
Today is the birthday of loverly Rebekah :airhump:
:dance: :hug:
Comment by 
BobR on 10/08/2008 12:53:02
BobR on 10/08/2008 12:53:02
FYI - For those that already read it, I just remembered to add this to the blog, right after the handshake video:
(note: not the first time McCain tried to avoid a handshake from Obama...)
(note: not the first time McCain tried to avoid a handshake from Obama...)
Comment by 
Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 12:54:32
Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 12:54:32
I said it last night and I'm sure I will say again, about the "That one" comment. "he may as well called him boy and rubbed his head."
Comment by 
Raine on 10/08/2008 12:54:56
Raine on 10/08/2008 12:54:56
Good Morning!
Nice to see you among the living, Clint.
Happy Birthday to fair Rebecca!!!!
And--- I don't ever want to think of john McCacca and his cool hands on ANYTHING ever again. :::: shudder ::::
Nice to see you among the living, Clint.
Happy Birthday to fair Rebecca!!!!
And--- I don't ever want to think of john McCacca and his cool hands on ANYTHING ever again. :::: shudder ::::
Comment by clintster on 10/08/2008 12:55:19
14. Fourteen friggin' friends. Seriously, though, I think that vodka had lost some of its potency. I was drinking my cheap, use-only-for-vodka-cream-sauce vodka. It may be time to get more, 'cause Daddy needs a Screwdriver.
clintster on 10/08/2008 12:55:19
Quote by wickedpam:
Morning :hug:
Good to see you standing this morning Clint
14. Fourteen friggin' friends. Seriously, though, I think that vodka had lost some of its potency. I was drinking my cheap, use-only-for-vodka-cream-sauce vodka. It may be time to get more, 'cause Daddy needs a Screwdriver.
Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 12:57:05
Actually, they left by about 1045, according to Rach last night.. she said that the Span made emntion of the time they left the building... it kept it's camera rolling for a bit... and according to reports the Obamas were there condiderably longer.
Raine on 10/08/2008 12:57:05
Quote by m-hadley:
McCaca - I love it :P
No wonder he and Cindy Lou were out of there like Bonnie & Clyde after a bank robbery :D
Cheers,
mfaye
:gobama:
Today is the birthday of loverly Rebekah :airhump:
:dance: :hug:
Comment by 
Scoopster on 10/08/2008 12:57:06
Scoopster on 10/08/2008 12:57:06
Morning all! 
What a lovely hump day it is! :airhump:
So.. McBitter didn't formally drop the n-bomb, so I managed to stay quite sober last night. But cmon Johnny boy - are you seriously that pissed off that you've lost your two best chances to become President while you're still alive?!
Let's think about this for a second. McCain ran in 2000 and the race came down to him and Dubya.. and he got beat out by that numbnuts moron mommas-boy after a bullshit racist campaign that insulted his adopted child. He watches from his sideline perch in the Senate where he's forced to watch - and by ideology to participate - in the demolition of this country's moral and economic foundations. He watches as his party's fate leads them to the gutter, and then to the exit door of the halls of power.
And then he comes back now, years later, addled by age and illness and fury over the chance that was stolen from him by a fucking idiot. And he watches the country pass him by, because of that idiot's legacy, for someone so full of energy and promise and intelligence and sheer force of will.
And he stands there, the anger rising in him day after day, to the point where he can't even say the man's name or even shake his hand after a spirited discussion of the country's issues and concerns.
No, I don't think John McCain is a racist. I think he's just another victim of the Bush Legacy - a man whose best chance to satisfy his greatest ambition was spirited away by a imbecile, and whose second best chance happened after his own time had run out.
What a lovely hump day it is! :airhump:So.. McBitter didn't formally drop the n-bomb, so I managed to stay quite sober last night. But cmon Johnny boy - are you seriously that pissed off that you've lost your two best chances to become President while you're still alive?!
Let's think about this for a second. McCain ran in 2000 and the race came down to him and Dubya.. and he got beat out by that numbnuts moron mommas-boy after a bullshit racist campaign that insulted his adopted child. He watches from his sideline perch in the Senate where he's forced to watch - and by ideology to participate - in the demolition of this country's moral and economic foundations. He watches as his party's fate leads them to the gutter, and then to the exit door of the halls of power.
And then he comes back now, years later, addled by age and illness and fury over the chance that was stolen from him by a fucking idiot. And he watches the country pass him by, because of that idiot's legacy, for someone so full of energy and promise and intelligence and sheer force of will.
And he stands there, the anger rising in him day after day, to the point where he can't even say the man's name or even shake his hand after a spirited discussion of the country's issues and concerns.
No, I don't think John McCain is a racist. I think he's just another victim of the Bush Legacy - a man whose best chance to satisfy his greatest ambition was spirited away by a imbecile, and whose second best chance happened after his own time had run out.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2008 13:00:31
Too bad you don't live closer I have a whole bottle of Absolut I could give you.
wickedpam on 10/08/2008 13:00:31
Quote by clintster:Quote by wickedpam:
Morning :hug:
Good to see you standing this morning Clint
14. Fourteen friggin' friends. Seriously, though, I think that vodka had lost some of its potency. I was drinking my cheap, use-only-for-vodka-cream-sauce vodka. It may be time to get more, 'cause Daddy needs a Screwdriver.
Too bad you don't live closer I have a whole bottle of Absolut I could give you.
Comment by Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 13:00:40
That was a wonderful post!
Mind if I use it?
Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 13:00:40
Quote by Scoopster:
Morning all!
So.. McBitter didn't formally drop the n-bomb, so I managed to stay quite sober last night. But cmon Johnny boy - are you seriously that pissed off that you've lost your two best chances to become President while you're still alive?!
Let's think about this for a second. McCain ran in 2000 and the race came down to him and Dubya.. and he got beat out by that numbnuts moron mommas-boy after a bullshit racist campaign that insulted his adopted child. He watches from his sideline perch in the Senate where he's forced to watch - and by ideology to participate - in the demolition of this country's moral and economic foundations. He watches as his party's fate leads them to the gutter, and then to the exit door of the halls of power.
And then he comes back now, years later, addled by age and illness and fury over the chance that was stolen from him by a fucking idiot. And he watches the country pass him by, because of that idiot's legacy, for someone so full of energy and promise and intelligence and sheer force of will.
And he stands there, the anger rising in him day after day, to the point where he can't even say the man's name or even shake his hand after a spirited discussion of the country's issues and concerns.
No, I don't think John McCain is a racist. I think he's just another victim of the Bush Legacy - a man whose best chance to satisfy his greatest ambition was spirited away by a imbecile, and whose second best chance happened after his own time had run out.
That was a wonderful post!
Mind if I use it?
Comment by Scoopster on 10/08/2008 13:02:55
Sure you can - actually I was reading it over and thought 'damn that's good I need to expand on it'.
Scoopster on 10/08/2008 13:02:55
Quote by Grumpymann:Quote by Scoopster:
Morning all!
So.. McBitter didn't formally drop the n-bomb, so I managed to stay quite sober last night. But cmon Johnny boy - are you seriously that pissed off that you've lost your two best chances to become President while you're still alive?!
Let's think about this for a second. McCain ran in 2000 and the race came down to him and Dubya.. and he got beat out by that numbnuts moron mommas-boy after a bullshit racist campaign that insulted his adopted child. He watches from his sideline perch in the Senate where he's forced to watch - and by ideology to participate - in the demolition of this country's moral and economic foundations. He watches as his party's fate leads them to the gutter, and then to the exit door of the halls of power.
And then he comes back now, years later, addled by age and illness and fury over the chance that was stolen from him by a fucking idiot. And he watches the country pass him by, because of that idiot's legacy, for someone so full of energy and promise and intelligence and sheer force of will.
And he stands there, the anger rising in him day after day, to the point where he can't even say the man's name or even shake his hand after a spirited discussion of the country's issues and concerns.
No, I don't think John McCain is a racist. I think he's just another victim of the Bush Legacy - a man whose best chance to satisfy his greatest ambition was spirited away by a imbecile, and whose second best chance happened after his own time had run out.
That was a wonderful post!
Mind if I use it?
Sure you can - actually I was reading it over and thought 'damn that's good I need to expand on it'.
Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 13:05:41
Raine on 10/08/2008 13:05:41
Comment by Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 13:09:01
You could call it that.
If it keeps happening, then I would call it justice.
Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 13:09:01
Quote by Raine:Grumpy, tell me again of this thing they call karma? :PQuote by Grumpymann:
I LOVE THIS!
You could call it that.
If it keeps happening, then I would call it justice.
Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 13:10:22
Raine on 10/08/2008 13:10:22
There is no way in hell last night was a draw.
Comment by Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 13:10:26
Dude I WISH I could be this clear when I go off on a screed.
Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 13:10:26
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Grumpymann:Quote by Scoopster:
Morning all!
So.. McBitter didn't formally drop the n-bomb, so I managed to stay quite sober last night. But cmon Johnny boy - are you seriously that pissed off that you've lost your two best chances to become President while you're still alive?!
Let's think about this for a second. McCain ran in 2000 and the race came down to him and Dubya.. and he got beat out by that numbnuts moron mommas-boy after a bullshit racist campaign that insulted his adopted child. He watches from his sideline perch in the Senate where he's forced to watch - and by ideology to participate - in the demolition of this country's moral and economic foundations. He watches as his party's fate leads them to the gutter, and then to the exit door of the halls of power.
And then he comes back now, years later, addled by age and illness and fury over the chance that was stolen from him by a fucking idiot. And he watches the country pass him by, because of that idiot's legacy, for someone so full of energy and promise and intelligence and sheer force of will.
And he stands there, the anger rising in him day after day, to the point where he can't even say the man's name or even shake his hand after a spirited discussion of the country's issues and concerns.
No, I don't think John McCain is a racist. I think he's just another victim of the Bush Legacy - a man whose best chance to satisfy his greatest ambition was spirited away by a imbecile, and whose second best chance happened after his own time had run out.
That was a wonderful post!
Mind if I use it?
Sure you can - actually I was reading it over and thought 'damn that's good I need to expand on it'.
Dude I WISH I could be this clear when I go off on a screed.
Comment by clintster on 10/08/2008 13:10:39
clintster on 10/08/2008 13:10:39
Faux News - the Pythonic Black Knight of debate opinion
Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2008 13:11:47
TriSec on 10/08/2008 13:11:47
Another *click* moment...
McCain last night said that Teddy Roosevelt was his "hero".
All politics aside, wasn't Teddy the youngest man in history to assume the office of the Presidency? If he's McCain's hero, then shouldn't he not have any issue with Sen. Obama assuming the office, being somewhat older than Teddy? (Of course, the second Sarah joined the ticket, you'll notice the "experience" talking point went poof.)
McCain last night said that Teddy Roosevelt was his "hero".
All politics aside, wasn't Teddy the youngest man in history to assume the office of the Presidency? If he's McCain's hero, then shouldn't he not have any issue with Sen. Obama assuming the office, being somewhat older than Teddy? (Of course, the second Sarah joined the ticket, you'll notice the "experience" talking point went poof.)
Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2008 13:13:23
Faux is all about the new math
wickedpam on 10/08/2008 13:13:23
Quote by Raine:
There is no way in hell last night was a draw.
Faux is all about the new math
Comment by 
Random on 10/08/2008 13:13:58
Just a scratch....Just a scratch..
Random on 10/08/2008 13:13:58
Quote by clintster:
Faux News - the Pythonic Black Knight of debate opinion
Just a scratch....Just a scratch..
Comment by Random on 10/08/2008 13:14:38
Random on 10/08/2008 13:14:38
DAMN...
Random wants to start ending all his posts
- "That One"
So...Hi all
- "That One"
Random wants to start ending all his posts
- "That One"
So...Hi all
- "That One"
Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 13:15:22
Raine on 10/08/2008 13:15:22
Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2008 13:20:05
wickedpam on 10/08/2008 13:20:05
Shelagh! 
Comment by BobR on 10/08/2008 13:20:08
Teddy AND Reagan. McCacca is SUCH a whore... :P
BobR on 10/08/2008 13:20:08
Quote by TriSec:
Another *click* moment...
McCain last night said that Teddy Roosevelt was his "hero".
All politics aside, wasn't Teddy the youngest man in history to assume the office of the Presidency? If he's McCain's hero, then shouldn't he not have any issue with Sen. Obama assuming the office, being somewhat older than Teddy? (Of course, the second Sarah joined the ticket, you'll notice the "experience" talking point went poof.)
Teddy AND Reagan. McCacca is SUCH a whore... :P
Comment by clintster on 10/08/2008 13:21:07
clintster on 10/08/2008 13:21:07
Cool. Shelagh!
Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2008 13:21:16
TriSec on 10/08/2008 13:21:16
You know, I thought McCain's only "genuine" moment last night came at the end...
When Tom Brokaw (worst moderator ever) told both of the candidates that they were in the way of the teleprompter, and McCain looked truly concerned and scampered out of the way...that seemed real.
When Tom Brokaw (worst moderator ever) told both of the candidates that they were in the way of the teleprompter, and McCain looked truly concerned and scampered out of the way...that seemed real.
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 10/08/2008 13:27:45
velveeta jones on 10/08/2008 13:27:45
Morning all. Got back from work late and caught snippets of the debate last night and this a.m.
WOW! Do we need a towel to wipe the floor from the sweat of John McCain? What an angry little old man/gnome!!! In almost every clip I've seen he's either gritting his teeth or sitting in his chair looking at anything but Obama. While Obama seemed respectful.
WOW! Do we need a towel to wipe the floor from the sweat of John McCain? What an angry little old man/gnome!!! In almost every clip I've seen he's either gritting his teeth or sitting in his chair looking at anything but Obama. While Obama seemed respectful.
Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2008 13:29:29
TriSec on 10/08/2008 13:29:29
Out of the mouths of babes...
Javier, watching part of the first debate:
McCain hates everyone and wants them to die, right papa?
Javier, watching part of the first debate:
McCain hates everyone and wants them to die, right papa?
Comment by BobR on 10/08/2008 13:29:50
BobR on 10/08/2008 13:29:50
Comment by m-hadley on 10/08/2008 13:30:39
I heard is was nineteen (19 "my friends"), Clint, did you in fact do 19 shots of Vodka last night (BTB, I hope it was good vodka - stoli or webarowa, not some rot gut crap :P)
Cheers,
mfaye
:gobama:
m-hadley on 10/08/2008 13:30:39
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by clintster:Quote by wickedpam:
Morning :hug:
Good to see you standing this morning Clint
14. Fourteen friggin' friends. Seriously, though, I think that vodka had lost some of its potency. I was drinking my cheap, use-only-for-vodka-cream-sauce vodka. It may be time to get more, 'cause Daddy needs a Screwdriver.
Too bad you don't live closer I have a whole bottle of Absolut I could give you.
I heard is was nineteen (19 "my friends"), Clint, did you in fact do 19 shots of Vodka last night (BTB, I hope it was good vodka - stoli or webarowa, not some rot gut crap :P)
Cheers,
mfaye
:gobama:
Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2008 13:31:21
wickedpam on 10/08/2008 13:31:21
bbl
Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 13:32:15
Raine on 10/08/2008 13:32:15
You know what else is still sticking in my craw from last night? While Obama Did Grin and perhaps chuckled at some of the absurd lies, John MCCAin visibly laughed at Obama.
He laughed. Very disconcerting considering the economy.
He laughed. Very disconcerting considering the economy.
Comment by BobR on 10/08/2008 13:32:40
BobR on 10/08/2008 13:32:40
The Fed is going to cut tax rates again, to 1.5%.
They might as well just give the money away. You think inflation is bad now? Watch the value of the dollar drop even more...
They might as well just give the money away. You think inflation is bad now? Watch the value of the dollar drop even more...
Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2008 13:33:49
TriSec on 10/08/2008 13:33:49
Wyborowa, ick.
I've been drinking a new import from Poland, Sobieski. That's pretty good.
To each his own, I suppose.
:peace:
I've been drinking a new import from Poland, Sobieski. That's pretty good.
To each his own, I suppose.
:peace:
Comment by BobR on 10/08/2008 13:37:31
BobR on 10/08/2008 13:37:31
We're a sponsor of the Steal Back Your Vote effort --->
Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 13:37:44
Raine on 10/08/2008 13:37:44
:nervous:
Greg ALWAYS makes me very very nervous.
Greg ALWAYS makes me very very nervous.
Comment by Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 13:38:55
I made sure I checked to see if I was ok.
Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 13:38:55
Quote by Raine:
:nervous:
Greg ALWAYS makes me very very nervous.
I made sure I checked to see if I was ok.
Comment by clintster on 10/08/2008 13:39:56
Oh Faye, I'm afraid it was a cheapo, plastic-bottle, $10.99 for a 2 liter bottle vodak. I only caught 14 MFs; I guess I was so busy shooting and blogranting that I missed a couple.
BTW, Pammer, if you want to send that Absolut this way, go ahead! :)
clintster on 10/08/2008 13:39:56
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by clintster:Quote by wickedpam:
Morning :hug:
Good to see you standing this morning Clint
14. Fourteen friggin' friends. Seriously, though, I think that vodka had lost some of its potency. I was drinking my cheap, use-only-for-vodka-cream-sauce vodka. It may be time to get more, 'cause Daddy needs a Screwdriver.
Too bad you don't live closer I have a whole bottle of Absolut I could give you.
I heard is was nineteen (19 "my friends"), Clint, did you in fact do 19 shots of Vodka last night (BTB, I hope it was good vodka - stoli or webarowa, not some rot gut crap :P)
Cheers,
mfaye
:gobama:
Oh Faye, I'm afraid it was a cheapo, plastic-bottle, $10.99 for a 2 liter bottle vodak. I only caught 14 MFs; I guess I was so busy shooting and blogranting that I missed a couple.
BTW, Pammer, if you want to send that Absolut this way, go ahead! :)
Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 13:48:41
Raine on 10/08/2008 13:48:41
I checked too Grump.
Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 13:53:26
McCain just lied ALL over the place last night. Serious lies. Not even shading the truth things... BIG whopper lies.
And I REALLY hated when he condescendingly said "before this crisis you probably never heard of Fannie or Freddie"
Raine on 10/08/2008 13:53:26
McCain just lied ALL over the place last night. Serious lies. Not even shading the truth things... BIG whopper lies. And I REALLY hated when he condescendingly said "before this crisis you probably never heard of Fannie or Freddie"
Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2008 13:53:26
TriSec on 10/08/2008 13:53:26
Even though I just voted in the Mass Primary, I re-confirmed my registration within the past 10 days, too...
The widget on the Obama website didn't pick up my registration, so I went all foily there.
The widget on the Obama website didn't pick up my registration, so I went all foily there.
Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 13:55:21
Raine on 10/08/2008 13:55:21
HE isn't going to 'telegraph" that information...
BEcuase he is waiting for his overhead projector to arive on the ferry.
BEcuase he is waiting for his overhead projector to arive on the ferry.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2008 13:57:57
wickedpam on 10/08/2008 13:57:57
durn it! I missed Greg!
Comment by Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 13:57:58
I point THAT out all the time.
"Saying EASILY Verifiable FACT! Is not true. Is not opinion. IT'S A LIE! And to believe that some FACT is not true dose not make you opinionated it makes you CRAZY!"
Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 13:57:58
Quote by Raine:
And I REALLY hated when he condescendingly said "before this crisis you probably never heard of Fannie or Freddie"
"Saying EASILY Verifiable FACT! Is not true. Is not opinion. IT'S A LIE! And to believe that some FACT is not true dose not make you opinionated it makes you CRAZY!"
Comment by Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 13:58:44
You still have me!
Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 13:58:44
Quote by wickedpam:
durn it! I missed Greg!
You still have me!
Comment by 
livingonli on 10/08/2008 14:00:11
livingonli on 10/08/2008 14:00:11
Good morning all. 
I'm glad you're still with us, Clintster. I was worried there with your drinking game.
Just remember, the last debate at Hofstra is very close to me since a) it was my college and b ) I live just a few miles away from the campus.
Did Shelagh call in? I missed her. I hope she can finally get a working computer again so she can get back on line.
I'm glad you're still with us, Clintster. I was worried there with your drinking game.
Just remember, the last debate at Hofstra is very close to me since a) it was my college and b ) I live just a few miles away from the campus.
Did Shelagh call in? I missed her. I hope she can finally get a working computer again so she can get back on line.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2008 14:03:19
:D :hug:
wickedpam on 10/08/2008 14:03:19
Quote by Grumpymann:Quote by wickedpam:
durn it! I missed Greg!
You still have me!
:D :hug:
Comment by livingonli on 10/08/2008 14:05:27
livingonli on 10/08/2008 14:05:27
I want a hug.