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Who is creating the terror? Not "That one"
Author: Raine    Date: 10/09/2008 12:13:59

By now, I am sure you have heard the federal government may nationalize part of our banks. Now I have said it before and I will say it again, economics are not my strong suit at all, but this appears to me to be a very bad idea.

On top of that, yesterday, the Federal Reserve gave AIG another 38 billion, and we have been told that the 700 billion dollar bailout package is going to take some time before it kicks in. I am starting to get a little concerned here. What the hell have these Republicans done to our country?

People are scared. They don't know what to do. They watch the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer and there is a simmering anger brewing about. This is very relevant because in the meantime, we have 2 people running for high office that are stoking those flames and whipping that fear and anger -- and dare I say bitterness into racial and xenophobic hatred. That's is where I start to get nervous. The newest comment was "Off with His Head".

When people are scared, nervous frightened bitter -- insert any word here--- they react in the way that the environment around them does. John McCain and Sarah Palin have been tossing down gasoline and handing out matches. It's terrible considering we are in very dire times here in America. My level of disgust is real and intense. I trust Barack when he calls for cooler heads to prevail. I trust him when he says don't panic, but I do not trust these people that I am seeing at these Republican rallies-- especially the ones behind the podium.

In the end, people who go to McCain/Palin rallies are people we walk next to everyday. They are our co-workers, they are our neighbors, they are are our friends and even family. The economy is affecting them just as it is you and I. How Americans react to this crisis is completely dependent upon how our leaders act. Take a look around. It's very obvious who is leading steadily and who is erratic and chaotic. I think the answer is there.

What is becoming increasingly clear to me is that Barack Obama was given few billion pounds of extra crap to deal with once he takes office. I expect not to see everything that he has been trying to communicate to America, but at least I know he would rather be honest about the issues than get thousands of people distracted from real issues and fired up to a hate rally, as McCain/Palin have done-- and will conitinue to do. Americans deserve better than that, even if they don't realize it for themselves.

John McCain wants America to believe Barack Obama is a terrorist because he is desperate, just as desperate as the people who are on the verge of losing everything -- houses, jobs, savings. Desperate people trying to lead the same is just a recipe for chaos and mass destruction.

So who exactly is creating the terror?
The Republicans and this administration who caused this economic crisis in America. The ones who have been in charge of the house from 1996- 2006, The ones who have been in the executive branch since 2000. Now, they have John McCain and Sarah Palin steering the ship of hatred into the heart of what is left of middle class America.

We cannot afford this in America again. If we are to be a beacon of hope and goodness, we cannot allow these people to tear America apart down the lines of color, economic states and xenophobia. We must, as a nation, come together to help instead of hate, Our chances are running out here, and we simply must get Barack Obama elected. The alternative is truly terrifying.

I refused to let the terrorists win on 911™ and I refuse still today.

:peace: and
Raine

 

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Comment by BobR on 10/09/2008 12:36:51
Morning folks... :coffee:



btw, I was working last night and didn't get a chance to comment on a couple things, so here they are:



Mondo: yes, some bottles are thicker than others

Livin: On Saturday's Phillie game, try to work in some shots of the crowd cussin' her out :P

Comment by BobR on 10/09/2008 12:40:07
Voter purging may violate federal law. It's nice to see this gaining some traction in the media...



EDIT: I spoke too soon. A quote from the article (I really should read this in their entirety before I post them):

The Times said voters appear to have been purged by mistake and not because of any intentional violations by election officials or coordinated efforts by any party.




This is the crux of it (for voter caging, anyway):

Some are removing voters from the rolls within 90 days of a federal election, which is not allowed except when voters die, notify the authorities that they have moved out of state, or have been declared unfit to vote.




Comment by TriSec on 10/09/2008 12:43:34
Morning, comrades!



Puttering around a bit this morning. Waltham Schools are giving the Jewish holidays now, too. (is it appropriate to wish one a happy Yom Kippur?) In any case, we'll be heading up to the Topsfield Fair in a bit.





Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2008 12:44:01
morning



blogging from home as I use a few more of my vacation days :yawn:

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 12:48:11
Quote by BobR:

Voter purging may violate federal law. It's nice to see this gaining some traction in the media...



EDIT: I spoke too soon. A quote from the article (I really should read this in their entirety before I post them):

The Times said voters appear to have been purged by mistake and not because of any intentional violations by election officials or coordinated efforts by any party.




This is the crux of it (for voter caging, anyway):

Some are removing voters from the rolls within 90 days of a federal election, which is not allowed except when voters die, notify the authorities that they have moved out of state, or have been declared unfit to vote.






I believe that there should be NO PURGING FOR WHATEVER REASON before the election... If people care so much, then go check to see who may have dies AFTER the election and readjust from there.



This is bullshit.



Once again, if you can vote early, I suggest you do, in case you have been purged.



Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 12:49:17
Absentee Ballot?





Oh dear.. I hope Bill Press has his vote counted.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2008 12:53:09
oh dear! the tape Bill just played - what the fuck people!

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 12:58:28
I missed it, what ws said MAla?

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/09/2008 13:04:54
Tri I have a stupid question for you.



Waltham Mass. had something to do with.. I think Washington or Franklin and an instrument called ... armonica is that right?



If so wich one and what was the connection?

Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2008 13:07:44
someone went to the Bethleham rally for McCain and talked to people going in - the comments from 2 ladies to the question of (and I paraphase) Do you think Obama is a terrorist?



Lady: "Well it's in his blood lines."

Questioner: "What does the mean do you really think-

Lady: "think about it. its in his -

lady2: "I think he is."

Lady: "all in his bloodlines"



it's paraphrased but that's pretty much what they said



Comment by Grumpymann on 10/09/2008 13:09:05
Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 13:11:01
Quote by wickedpam:

oh dear! the tape Bill just played - what the fuck people!


I found what you were talking about Mala. If you can stomach this...







Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 13:14:09
Morning! Yes I am up and ready to face the day! Thanks for the confirmation Bobber. Follow up question is there a correlation between bottle stoutness and brew quality? Yes, bad pun was intended. I hate myself for that one.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2008 13:17:13
Thanks Raine - it's just horrifying.

Comment by TriSec on 10/09/2008 13:18:50
Quote by Grumpymann:

Tri I have a stupid question for you.



Waltham Mass. had something to do with.. I think Washington or Franklin and an instrument called ... armonica is that right?



If so wich one and what was the connection?




Benjamin Franklin and the Glass Armonica.



There's a company in town that makes them.



Franklin's glass armonica was re-invented by master glassblower and musician, Gerhard B. Finkenbeiner (1930–1999) in 1984. After thirty years of experimentation, Finkenbeiner's prototype consisted of clear glasses and glasses with gold bands. Those with gold bands indicate the equivalent of the black keys on the piano. Finkenbeiner Inc., of Waltham, Massachusetts, continues to produce these instruments commercially.




A member of my scout troop was a dear friend of Mr. Finkenbeiner; his death remains a mystery, as he was a private pilot and disappeared over Southeast MA on the way to Hyannis. No trace of the plane was ever found.



Comment by Scoopster on 10/09/2008 13:20:32
Morning all :coffee2:



I am surprised that, you know, we've been seeing some pretty over-the-top attacks coming out of the McCain campaign over the last several days, that he wasn't willing to say it to my face. But I guess we've got one last debate. So presumably, if he ends up feeling that he needs to, he will raise it during the debate.




FUCK YEA!

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 13:29:14
For those that didn't hear it on Countdown:



Ode to Sean Hannity



by John Cleese



Aping urbanity

Oozing with vanity

Plump as a manatee

Faking humanity

Journalistic calamity

Intellectual inanity

Fox Noise insanity

You’re a profanity

Hannity

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 13:37:07
Paul just confirmed my blog today!







Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2008 13:38:05
Love me some Begala

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 13:38:10
Quote by Raine:

Paul just confirmed my blog today!











Maybe Paul reads the blog. Behold the power of 4F!

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 13:38:11
Quote by Mondobubba:

For those that didn't hear it on Countdown:



Ode to Sean Hannity



by John Cleese



Aping urbanity

Oozing with vanity

Plump as a manatee

Faking humanity

Journalistic calamity

Intellectual inanity

Fox Noise insanity

You’re a profanity

Hannity




Thanks for posting this Mondo! That was just awesome.



Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 13:39:28
Quote by Scoopster:

Morning all :coffee2:



I am surprised that, you know, we've been seeing some pretty over-the-top attacks coming out of the McCain campaign over the last several days, that he wasn't willing to say it to my face. But I guess we've got one last debate. So presumably, if he ends up feeling that he needs to, he will raise it during the debate.




FUCK YEA!
He gave an amazing interview last night. Charlie was trying to be a douche, but barack was just cool and smooth.



Comment by velveeta jones on 10/09/2008 13:40:52
Morning all!

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 13:41:40
I am a little ashamed of being a white person today. :cry:







Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 13:42:48
See Tri, Paul Begala, a southern called secession treason!

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 13:46:52
Quote by Mondobubba:

See Tri, Paul Begala, a southern called secession treason!
:rolleyes:



here we go!



Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 13:47:11
Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2008 13:48:13
we have to turn off our cell phones - well atleast those are the signs up last time I voted

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 13:48:51
:dance: Generals and Majors! I XTC!

Comment by TriSec on 10/09/2008 13:52:49
Huh? Not listening this morning.





Comment by Grumpymann on 10/09/2008 13:52:51
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by Grumpymann:

Tri I have a stupid question for you.



Waltham Mass. had something to do with.. I think Washington or Franklin and an instrument called ... armonica is that right?



If so wich one and what was the connection?




Benjamin Franklin and the Glass Armonica.



There's a company in town that makes them.



Franklin's glass armonica was re-invented by master glassblower and musician, Gerhard B. Finkenbeiner (1930–1999) in 1984. After thirty years of experimentation, Finkenbeiner's prototype consisted of clear glasses and glasses with gold bands. Those with gold bands indicate the equivalent of the black keys on the piano. Finkenbeiner Inc., of Waltham, Massachusetts, continues to produce these instruments commercially.




A member of my scout troop was a dear friend of Mr. Finkenbeiner; his death remains a mystery, as he was a private pilot and disappeared over Southeast MA on the way to Hyannis. No trace of the plane was ever found.



Thanks Tri you are always a wealth of info when I need one.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2008 13:53:29
thats a weebull not a weevil

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/09/2008 13:54:01
Quote by Raine:

I am a little ashamed of being a white person today. :cry:







You don't need to be.

Your not a Con.

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 13:54:54
The hand shake that wan't captured doesn't matter.



It was the handshake that was NOT accepted this does. The body language says it all. Besides, I posted a few pictures of the handshake... McCain clearly despises "That One"







Comment by Grumpymann on 10/09/2008 13:56:56
Ash RAPE VICTIMS in Wisilla how popular she is!

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 13:57:35
Quote by Grumpymann:

Quote by Raine:

I am a little ashamed of being a white person today. :cry:







You don't need to be.

Your not a Con.


Logically I know this, but emotionally, I am not feeling it.



It isn't comfortable to say but what these people are saying ... it reflects badly on me, as a white woman. I want to scream out to the world that I am not one of THOSE PEOPLE!

Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2008 13:58:09
Personally I like to think my Gov. is pretty popular :shrug:

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 13:59:51
Quote by Grumpymann:

Ask RAPE VICTIMS in Wisilla how popular she is!




Tell me about it. I am still waiting for the MEdia to do some REAL reporting on that.



That woman HATES women. and according to here own words (the ones she misquoted from a starbucks cup) she condemned herself to hell.



Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 14:02:14
Oh Raine. The buying into the banks thing, worked in Sweden. But, that was Sweden.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2008 14:05:13
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Grumpymann:

Quote by Raine:

I am a little ashamed of being a white person today. :cry:







You don't need to be.

Your not a Con.


Logically I know this, but emotionally, I am not feeling it.



It isn't comfortable to say but what these people are saying ... it reflects badly on me, as a white woman. I want to scream out to the world that I am not one of THOSE PEOPLE!




thinking aloud -

and maybe I'm opening a naive can of worms but -



I never think of myself as a "color" so I have a hard time feeling ashamed of what people do or say based how if they have similar "coloring" for lack of a better word. I just feel ashamed that people can thinking about each other in general.



I'm too pollyanne aren't I?



I don't want to offend anyone so I hope I said that in a why so as not to poke anyone with a sharp stick.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 14:06:30
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Grumpymann:

Ask RAPE VICTIMS in Wisilla how popular she is!




Tell me about it. I am still waiting for the MEdia to do some REAL reporting on that.



That woman HATES women. and according to here own words (the ones she misquoted from a starbucks cup) she condemned herself to hell.





You want to read some really hilarious stuff about Sarah Palin as the new face of feminism, check out Camille Paglia's bloviation in Salon from a couple of days ago. The best part of the article were the letters.

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/09/2008 14:08:17
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Grumpymann:

Quote by Raine:

I am a little ashamed of being a white person today. :cry:







You don't need to be.

Your not a Con.


Logically I know this, but emotionally, I am not feeling it.



It isn't comfortable to say but what these people are saying ... it reflects badly on me, as a white woman. I want to scream out to the world that I am not one of THOSE PEOPLE!
I remember I did something... really wrong when I was a kid.

My father thought I should go talk to my Grandfather about it.

Grandpa took me out for ice cream.

To make a long story short after I spilled the beans and a lot of tears. A lot of recriminations on myself. I asked my grand father what my punishment would be.

(And my grandfather said nothing the whole time.)

My grandfather said to me. "The difference between you and the other people involved with what you did is "YOU HAVE A SOUL THAT MAKES YOU FEEL BAD FOR WHAT HAS HAPPENED.""



That was my punishment the crushing guilt and the knowledge that I had disappointed people that mattered to me. (Worse than grounding and the usual ass kicking.)



I think the same wisdom applies to you.

You know it was wrong and even though you had nothing to do with it. You still feel bad even though you have nothing to feel bad for.





Comment by Grumpymann on 10/09/2008 14:09:44
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Grumpymann:

Quote by Raine:

I am a little ashamed of being a white person today. :cry:







You don't need to be.

Your not a Con.


Logically I know this, but emotionally, I am not feeling it.



It isn't comfortable to say but what these people are saying ... it reflects badly on me, as a white woman. I want to scream out to the world that I am not one of THOSE PEOPLE!




thinking aloud -

and maybe I'm opening a naive can of worms but -



I never think of myself as a "color" so I have a hard time feeling ashamed of what people do or say based how if they have similar "coloring" for lack of a better word. I just feel ashamed that people can thinking about each other in general.



I'm too pollyanne aren't I?



I don't want to offend anyone so I hope I said that in a why so as not to poke anyone with a sharp stick.




Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 14:10:30
Grump, I love your grandfather.



Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2008 14:13:53
Quote by Raine:

Grump, I love your grandfather.







Me too. :hug:



Comment by velveeta jones on 10/09/2008 14:14:53
Speaking of Sheboygan....... and drops on SMS....... Shane-O, I want to investigate getting one of your perfect drops onto my cellphone!! (I see a new cottage industry for you). I would have a cooler ring tone than my teenage boss - who has some pop flavor of the month that I've never heard of but sounds like any other pop "star".



Are you on facebook?

Comment by Scoopster on 10/09/2008 14:15:04
Ooh.. great diary on Georgia voter registration changes from 2004 to 2008



This might help explain why Saxby Chambliss is running tied in the polls..

Comment by BobR on 10/09/2008 14:15:09
Quote by Mondobubba:

Morning! Yes I am up and ready to face the day! Thanks for the confirmation Bobber. Follow up question is there a correlation between bottle stoutness and brew quality? Yes, bad pun was intended. I hate myself for that one.


Not necessarily. Breweries don't make their own bottles.

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/09/2008 14:16:01
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Grump, I love your grandfather.







Me too. :hug:



Quote by Raine:

Grump, I love your grandfather.

Thanks guys I miss him a lot some times.

But mostly I remember him and smile.

Comment by BobR on 10/09/2008 14:16:02
Quote by Mondobubba:

:dance: Generals and Majors! I XTC!


one of MY favorite bands... :party:

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 14:17:13
Earlier, when Begalia said Barack could have stopped bill ayers if he had a hall pass... well here it is folks... Barack TRIED! Proof that he tried to stop Bill Ayers:







http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-03/28647552.jpg




Idiots on the right ... total idiots.

Comment by livingonli on 10/09/2008 14:17:25
Good morning everyone.



Hearing the ugly rhetoric coming from the McCain and Palin rallies and considering that these people make up the 25% of the public that still supports Bush also reminds me of what was written in Conservatives Without Conscience where he noted that about 23% of the public would be willing to accept an authoritarian (read Fascist) state.



What you are seeing in those crowds is the manifestation of American Fascism.

Comment by TriSec on 10/09/2008 14:17:29
Alright gang, signing off and heading out!





Comment by Grumpymann on 10/09/2008 14:19:11
Didn't daffy have 3 nephews?

Comment by livingonli on 10/09/2008 14:19:17
Quote by Raine:

Earlier, when Begalia said Barack could have stopped bill ayers if he had a hall pass... well here it is folks... Barack TRIED! Proof that he tried to stop Bill Ayers:







http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-03/28647552.jpg




Idiots on the right ... total idiots.


See, Obama could have ran him over with the tricycle and stopped his terrorism.

Comment by livingonli on 10/09/2008 14:19:52
Quote by Grumpymann:

Didn't daffy have 3 nephews?


Actually, that was Donald.

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 14:20:23
Quote by velveeta jones:

Speaking of Sheboygan....... and drops on SMS....... Shane-O, I want to investigate getting one of your perfect drops onto my cellphone!! (I see a new cottage industry for you). I would have a cooler ring tone than my teenage boss - who has some pop flavor of the month that I've never heard of but sounds like any other pop "star".



Are you on facebook?
I think Shane is still sleeping...



But I have a Shane that is my friend... you might wanna check it out. ;)



Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2008 14:20:25
Quote by Grumpymann:

Didn't daffy have 3 nephews?




that was Donald



Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2008 14:20:58
Quote by Raine:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Speaking of Sheboygan....... and drops on SMS....... Shane-O, I want to investigate getting one of your perfect drops onto my cellphone!! (I see a new cottage industry for you). I would have a cooler ring tone than my teenage boss - who has some pop flavor of the month that I've never heard of but sounds like any other pop "star".



Are you on facebook?
I think Shane is still sleeping...



But I have a Shane that is my friend... you might wanna check it out. ;)





I was just going to suggest something like that :D



Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 14:22:14
Quote by Grumpymann:

Didn't daffy have 3 nephews?
I thought that was Donald Duck.







Comment by Grumpymann on 10/09/2008 14:22:24
Quote by Raine:

Earlier, when Begalia said Barack could have stopped bill ayers if he had a hall pass... well here it is folks... Barack TRIED! Proof that he tried to stop Bill Ayers:







http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-03/28647552.jpg




Idiots on the right ... total idiots.


OH MY GOD!



He has a funny hat!

He's a 'terrorist!



Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2008 14:22:35
Sylvester didn't have a nephew, he had a son called Sylvester Jr.

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/09/2008 14:22:56
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Grumpymann:

Didn't daffy have 3 nephews?




that was Donald



Thanks!

Comment by livingonli on 10/09/2008 14:24:07
Quote by wickedpam:

Sylvester didn't have a nephew, he had a son called Sylvester Jr.


Oh, father. I am so ashamed. A cat being scared of a mouse. : puts bag over head:

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 14:25:10
Quote by wickedpam:

Sylvester didn't have a nephew, he had a son called Sylvester Jr.






Who was the baby Momma?

Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2008 14:25:14
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by wickedpam:

Sylvester didn't have a nephew, he had a son called Sylvester Jr.


Oh, father. I am so ashamed. A cat being scared of a mouse. : puts bag over head:




:p



Comment by Grumpymann on 10/09/2008 14:25:57
The thing that bothers me.

Not one "Moderate" rethug has said "This has to stop!"



To me this screams that this is how they really feel.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 14:26:38
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Mondobubba:

:dance: Generals and Majors! I XTC!


one of MY favorite bands... :party:






Well of course they are, cause they are GREAT!

Comment by Scoopster on 10/09/2008 14:29:19
Quote by Raine:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-03/28647552.jpg


Hey nice car there.. not sure what it is tho - Chevy Nova maybe?

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/09/2008 14:29:24
Is should be against the law to challenge someones right to vote.

With out the "Victim" having enough time to straighten this shit out.

AND if the chlanger is wrong.... they should be jailed.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 14:29:48
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Morning! Yes I am up and ready to face the day! Thanks for the confirmation Bobber. Follow up question is there a correlation between bottle stoutness and brew quality? Yes, bad pun was intended. I hate myself for that one.


Not necessarily. Breweries don't make their own bottles.






well here is my train of thought. Cheap watery swill, cheap thin bottles. Good quality beer, carefully and lovingly packaged in a heavy, quality bottle. Purchased by the brewery because the bottles are less likely to break.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 14:31:31
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Raine:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-03/28647552.jpg


Hey nice car there.. not sure what it is tho - Chevy Nova maybe?




No, that's not a Nova. Friend of mine had one of that vintage. Is it a Malibu? I hope there are no aliens rotting in the truck.

Comment by livingonli on 10/09/2008 14:35:43
My first car was a 1976 Chevy Nova and it didn't look anything like that.

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 14:37:28
Dana Millbank is on top of this hate speech



Rage in the Town of Bethlehem



I find it interesting, as an odd aside, the name of the town...



This is the hate folks, they aren't even trying to hide it.



If I knew how, I would lead a civil rights march.

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 14:40:44
This caller is asking some really great questions!

Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2008 14:42:33
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Raine:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-03/28647552.jpg


Hey nice car there.. not sure what it is tho - Chevy Nova maybe?






I was thinking thats a Rambler or a Dart

Comment by BobR on 10/09/2008 14:43:09
Quote by livingonli:

My first car was a 1976 Chevy Nova and it didn't look anything like that.


Considering that Obama is on a tricycle in that photo, it has to be circa 1968 (or thereabouts).

Comment by Shane-O on 10/09/2008 14:44:48
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Speaking of Sheboygan....... and drops on SMS....... Shane-O, I want to investigate getting one of your perfect drops onto my cellphone!! (I see a new cottage industry for you). I would have a cooler ring tone than my teenage boss - who has some pop flavor of the month that I've never heard of but sounds like any other pop "star".



Are you on facebook?
I think Shane is still sleeping...



But I have a Shane that is my friend... you might wanna check it out. ;)





I was just going to suggest something like that :D



Sorry - I am awake - just working on SM Drops for tomorrow, so I'm behind on the thread.



VJ - I'm on Facebook and MySpace (but I rarely am on MySpace) -- I'll send ya' any drops you want (and that's open to all) -- you betcha!



Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2008 14:44:59
Quote by BobR:

Quote by livingonli:

My first car was a 1976 Chevy Nova and it didn't look anything like that.


Considering that Obama is on a tricycle in that photo, it has to be circa 1968 (or thereabouts).




Nova's have and had more of a sloping back - it was a muscle car and my Mom had one that she drove up until about 1990-something



Comment by Scoopster on 10/09/2008 14:47:55
Well.. it just keeps on rollin' here at the office. Just had a hotel group up towards Boston send us an order to renew their ads, plus 5 grand in new advertising.

Comment by Scoopster on 10/09/2008 14:49:50
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by livingonli:

My first car was a 1976 Chevy Nova and it didn't look anything like that.


Considering that Obama is on a tricycle in that photo, it has to be circa 1968 (or thereabouts).




Nova's have and had more of a sloping back - it was a muscle car and my Mom had one that she drove up until about 1990-something



I was thinkin' Nova 'cause my grandpa had one - a station wagon. The headlight design kinda looked similar.



Ah well.. :kickcan:

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 14:52:32
Was that a subtle shout out for the boyfriend from ProducerChris?

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 14:53:05
Quote by Grumpymann:

The thing that bothers me.

Not one "Moderate" rethug has said "This has to stop!"



To me this screams that this is how they really feel.


I am really hoping that changes in the VERY near future. I really am.



And truthfully, in the end, if they do finally say that it has to stop, it would at least help the people who are running for the house and senate.



The moderates need to leave grampy out to dry if they ever want a chance of not losing house and senate seats...



The NYT said it best. Grampy is hurting them:

Strategists for both parties say Republican House and Senate candidates are being hurt by the dip in support for Senator John McCain at the top of the ticket, frustrating Republicans who had initially viewed Mr. McCain as a strong asset who could appeal to independents and even moderate Democrats and protect Republicans in a tough year.



But the market volatility and perceived Democratic edge on handling the economy has evidently turned voters to Democrats, a view supported by one top adviser to Republican candidates.



“This financial crisis has provided momentum to Barack Obama and other Democrats, and their campaigns now have the wind at their backs,” said the consultant, who asked not to be identified speaking pessimistically about the Republican outlook.




So while gramps is out fanning the flames of hate... people are increasingly turning away from state candidates.



This begs the real question, at what cost is this Victory McCain wants? I have never in my lifetime seen such greed and bloodlust for power.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2008 14:54:07
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by livingonli:

My first car was a 1976 Chevy Nova and it didn't look anything like that.


Considering that Obama is on a tricycle in that photo, it has to be circa 1968 (or thereabouts).




Nova's have and had more of a sloping back - it was a muscle car and my Mom had one that she drove up until about 1990-something



I was thinkin' Nova 'cause my grandpa had one - a station wagon. The headlight design kinda looked similar.



Ah well.. :kickcan:






:hug:



Comment by BobR on 10/09/2008 14:55:15
Quote by Scoopster:



I was thinkin' Nova 'cause my grandpa had one - a station wagon. The headlight design kinda looked similar.



Ah well.. :kickcan:


It looks a lot like an early 60's Mercury Comet:

http://www.cardatabase.net/photos/small/5/9/6/00055695.jpg


Comment by livingonli on 10/09/2008 14:55:29
Did they just snarf the tricycle bit from this blog?

Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2008 14:56:56
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Scoopster:



I was thinkin' Nova 'cause my grandpa had one - a station wagon. The headlight design kinda looked similar.



Ah well.. :kickcan:


It looks a lot like an early 60's Mercury Comet:

http://www.cardatabase.net/photos/small/5/9/6/00055695.jpg




I love old cars - they had so much style :D



Comment by Scoopster on 10/09/2008 14:59:01
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 14:59:01
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Scoopster:



I was thinkin' Nova 'cause my grandpa had one - a station wagon. The headlight design kinda looked similar.



Ah well.. :kickcan:


It looks a lot like an early 60's Mercury Comet:

http://www.cardatabase.net/photos/small/5/9/6/00055695.jpg




I love old cars - they had so much style :D





And those unpadded dashboards, non-breakaway steering wheels and no seat belts make them so safe!

Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2008 15:02:11
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Scoopster:



I was thinkin' Nova 'cause my grandpa had one - a station wagon. The headlight design kinda looked similar.



Ah well.. :kickcan:


It looks a lot like an early 60's Mercury Comet:

http://www.cardatabase.net/photos/small/5/9/6/00055695.jpg




I love old cars - they had so much style :D





And those unpadded dashboards, non-breakaway steering wheels and no seat belts make them so safe!






Please - i feel safe driving around in one of those cars then I do with most plastic cars around today.



Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 15:02:22
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Raine:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-03/28647552.jpg


Hey nice car there.. not sure what it is tho - Chevy Nova maybe?






I was thinking thats a Rambler or a Dart
I am thinking it's a rambler myself.



I gotta do some more research, my grandfather had a black version of that car.I just can't recall what the name was.







Comment by Scoopster on 10/09/2008 15:03:24
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Scoopster:



I was thinkin' Nova 'cause my grandpa had one - a station wagon. The headlight design kinda looked similar.



Ah well.. :kickcan:


It looks a lot like an early 60's Mercury Comet:

http://www.cardatabase.net/photos/small/5/9/6/00055695.jpg




I love old cars - they had so much style :D


Ahhh.. ya know I had a thought that it might be a Ford design. There's an outscoop on the side there (right behind young BO's arm) that looks like it might be something you'd see on an old Mustang..

Comment by velveeta jones on 10/09/2008 15:03:29
Thanks Raine-O! Found him!

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 15:04:36
We should no assume that car is from 1968... I am now thinking it is a few years older than that.



IT also seems to have some Fins...

Comment by velveeta jones on 10/09/2008 15:05:53
I believe that's a '64 or '65 Rambler. Ask the "old" people. ;)

Comment by velveeta jones on 10/09/2008 15:07:00
Looking again...... could even be a '63 but I'm sticking with '64.



Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2008 15:08:18
lol - we are so in an classic car ditch :D

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 15:10:03


This is a really important story. it goes right to the question of who is ready and prepared and who is not.



I am no longer surprised at John McCain picking Sarah Palin... he is a person who makes decision with no prethought. HE is rash and not concerned with thought.



HE further scares me as a potential POTUS.

Comment by BobR on 10/09/2008 15:12:00
Quote by Raine:

We should no assume that car is from 1968... I am now thinking it is a few years older than that.



IT also seems to have some Fins...


I was assuming it was no newer than '68, but older is certainly likely especially with those fins...

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 15:13:28
Quote by velveeta jones:

I believe that's a '64 or '65 Rambler. Ask the "old" people. ;)






Nope, not a Rambler. When I was a wee Mondo, we had a Rambler. Two-tone white over green. It had seat belts and child locks! The last American car the Mondo clan owned until the 1970 Dodge Dart with the slant 6 Now that was a car!

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 15:13:38
Did the 64 have that kind of 2 tone paint job? ::: scurries to the google ::::

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 15:15:10
:rofl: Liberman-McCain mail bit. :rofl:

Comment by Shane-O on 10/09/2008 15:17:18
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Raine:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-03/28647552.jpg


Hey nice car there.. not sure what it is tho - Chevy Nova maybe?






I was thinking thats a Rambler or a Dart
I am thinking it's a rambler myself.



I gotta do some more research, my grandfather had a black version of that car.I just can't recall what the name was.







I think it's a Chevy Impala - the fins say older than 68



Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 15:17:47
Quote by Raine:

Did the 64 have that kind of 2 tone paint job? ::: scurries to the google ::::




Ours was a 62 I think. Like I said I was wee Mondo. I used to ride to the Kensington Co-op Nursery School in that bad boy. We also had a battleship gray VW Beetle.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2008 15:18:39
okay - I'm off to do house stuff - see everyone later! :hug:

Comment by velveeta jones on 10/09/2008 15:20:01
Oh wait, Mondo is correct, that is not a Rambler. I'm now saying that its a ......Ford Falcon. Were is my brother, the car collector, when I need him?

Comment by livingonli on 10/09/2008 15:21:55
See ya later on the facecrack Mala.

Comment by Scoopster on 10/09/2008 15:22:24
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 15:29:03
Quote by velveeta jones:

Oh wait, Mondo is correct, that is not a Rambler. I'm now saying that its a ......Ford Falcon. Were is my brother, the car collector, when I need him?




Could be. I'm still thinking it is Malibu.

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 15:37:16
Damn you car historians!!! ::: shakes fist at sky :::







Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 15:44:29
Quote by Raine:

Damn you car historians!!! ::: shakes fist at sky :::











Car historian moi? I'm just using the blog research materials. : points to big stack of Modern Jackass magazines, including issue entitled "Two Tone and Tail Fins: American Auto Design in the late 50s and Early 60s":

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 15:46:23
BTW I think the young Obama pic is a Photoshop job. The perspective looks off to me.

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 15:46:47
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/genthumb.ashx?e=3&h=240&w=320&i=/assetpool/images/081009085150_100908_palinpackingKSEE.jpg






That is on the invitation.



FRESNO, CA -- The picture of vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin holding a rifle is definitely generating a lot of talk.



Now, the Fresno County Republican party joined forces with the NRA in a first-time fundraiser, using that much talked about picture as their centerpiece.



This is the picture local Republicans say has so much pull: vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin packing heat.



"I think using it as a tool to get votes is a reasonable," said NRA member Barry Bauer. "The other party is very anti-gun."



The image was used on the invitation for the first-ever joint fundraiser between the Fresno County Republican party and the National Rifle Association.



"We both believe in upholding the 2nd amendment," said Holly Carter of the Fresno County Republican party.




Holy crap. Dog whistle politics, friends,

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 15:50:06
Pit bull? Nay Momma she is a Cairn terrier.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 15:53:05
Quote by Raine:

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/genthumb.ashx?e=3&h=240&w=320&i=/assetpool/images/081009085150_100908_palinpackingKSEE.jpg






That is on the invitation.



FRESNO, CA -- The picture of vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin holding a rifle is definitely generating a lot of talk.



Now, the Fresno County Republican party joined forces with the NRA in a first-time fundraiser, using that much talked about picture as their centerpiece.



This is the picture local Republicans say has so much pull: vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin packing heat.



"I think using it as a tool to get votes is a reasonable," said NRA member Barry Bauer. "The other party is very anti-gun."



The image was used on the invitation for the first-ever joint fundraiser between the Fresno County Republican party and the National Rifle Association.



"We both believe in upholding the 2nd amendment," said Holly Carter of the Fresno County Republican party.




Holy crap. Dog whistle politics, friends,




From my local ABC/NBC affiliate even!

Comment by BobR on 10/09/2008 15:55:58
Quote by Raine:

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/genthumb.ashx?e=3&h=240&w=320&i=/assetpool/images/081009085150_100908_palinpackingKSEE.jpg






That is on the invitation.







Holy crap. Dog whistle politics, friends,


Is it just me, or does she look drunk in that picture?

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 15:57:05
Hay fever. Bad. Going to. Take.Zyrtec! Mondo.OUT

Comment by BobR on 10/09/2008 15:57:08
Quote by Mondobubba:

BTW I think the young Obama pic is a Photoshop job. The perspective looks off to me.


It looks fine to me, taking into account the quality of the optics in an early 60's consumer camera.

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 15:58:39
WE have a real problem here. It's a combination of overt and covert racism happening here. Last night I posted youtubery from the Kennedy/Nixon debates, and although I was not alive at the time I have done enough studies of that period to see some scary parallels.







The idea of using sarah in that way is CLEARLY code speak.







Comment by BobR on 10/09/2008 15:59:11
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 16:00:39
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/genthumb.ashx?e=3&h=240&w=320&i=/assetpool/images/081009085150_100908_palinpackingKSEE.jpg






That is on the invitation.



Holy crap. Dog whistle politics, friends,


Is it just me, or does she look drunk in that picture?


Yeah, now that you mention it. You know what disturbs me about this picture that she is holding a potentially loaded weapon in a firing position with somebody close to the muzzle. NOT SAFE! First rule assume the rifle or pistol is loaded and act accordingly.





Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 16:04:11
Sarah may or may not have been drunk in that picture...



She looked like a redneck's wet dream. We have entered into republeroticsm, here. It's dangerous and very scary.



These people must NOT be elected. if they are, we will become something that is worse than anything facsism ever said it was.





Comment by BobR on 10/09/2008 16:07:25
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/genthumb.ashx?e=3&h=240&w=320&i=/assetpool/images/081009085150_100908_palinpackingKSEE.jpg


This is your country on fascism...



any questions?

Comment by livingonli on 10/09/2008 16:16:41
Quote by BobR:

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/genthumb.ashx?e=3&h=240&w=320&i=/assetpool/images/081009085150_100908_palinpackingKSEE.jpg


This is your country on fascism...



any questions?


I smell a great poster here.

Comment by IzzyBitz on 10/09/2008 16:20:08
Quote by wickedpam:

Love me some Begala




Paul Begala. David Sedaris. Separated at birth? Discuss.



I always feel a wave of Sedaris funny when I see Paul on the TV machine.

Comment by Scoopster on 10/09/2008 17:12:30
Comment by livingonli on 10/09/2008 17:12:41
Since I am off today, I am heading out to get some stuff done.

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 17:51:54
Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 17:59:16
Quote by Scoopster:

Bush's Spokeswench says the best way to help the economy is for us to "get back to work"



:modbat:





:grumble:

:rage:

:pirate: :thud:

You know, after reading that piece, It occurs to me that that was the same excuse that John McCain used for not voting for the GI bill.



Pigs. Selfish fascist pigs.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 18:09:04
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Mondobubba:

BTW I think the young Obama pic is a Photoshop job. The perspective looks off to me.


It looks fine to me, taking into account the quality of the optics in an early 60's consumer camera.






Bobber, upon reflection and thought and critical reasoning. I am in agreement with you. I have been too indoctrinated by "modern" photographic techniques, i. e. the person looking in a view finder at eye level. Prior to the Instamatic revolution your typical Kodak moment camera would have been a Brownie style box camera which would not be held at eye level, no more about waist level. So, the picture in question has that sort of perspective.



A tip o' the hat for Tri. He sent me an adorable picture of Javi and huge pumpkin taken on the camera in his phone. It has that more downward perspective, not the waist high almost dead level perspective in the Obama photo.



We will leave out optics, film etc. out of the discussion.





Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 18:12:04
Quote by IzzyBitz:

Quote by wickedpam:

Love me some Begala




Paul Begala. David Sedaris. Separated at birth? Discuss.



I always feel a wave of Sedaris funny when I see Paul on the TV machine.




I would say sorta. I mean David Sedaris writes painfully funny embarrassing stuff about him and his family. Begala is more outwardly directed. He brings up painfully embarrassing things about Republicans.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 18:21:16
Quote by Raine:

Sarah may or may not have been drunk in that picture...



She looked like a redneck's wet dream. We have entered into republeroticsm, here. It's dangerous and very scary.



These people must NOT be elected. if they are, we will become something that is worse than anything facsism ever said it was.









Chicks with guns is a sub-genre of gun porn already. Lots of videos etc of women in bikinis with AKs, mini rugers, AR15 etc. It is very creepy stuff. Guns n women together not hot.



Comment by velveeta jones on 10/09/2008 18:37:20
Quote by BobR:

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/genthumb.ashx?e=3&h=240&w=320&i=/assetpool/images/081009085150_100908_palinpackingKSEE.jpg


This is your country on fascism...



any questions?


Oh so that's what a hockey mom looks like? Did not know that.



:blink:



Comment by BobR on 10/09/2008 19:04:47
THE CAR MYSTERY IS SOLVED!!!



It's a 1962 Pontiac Tempest



http://www.cardatabase.net/photos/small/9/6/7/00029769.jpg
http://www.cardatabase.net/photos/small/1/0/7/00075701.jpg
http://www.cardatabase.net/photos/small/0/0/7/00075700.jpg




http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-03/28647552.jpg


Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 19:11:41
Quote by BobR:

THE CAR MYSTERY IS SOLVED!!!



It's a 1962 Pontiac Tempest



http://www.cardatabase.net/photos/small/9/6/7/00029769.jpg
http://www.cardatabase.net/photos/small/1/0/7/00075701.jpg
http://www.cardatabase.net/photos/small/0/0/7/00075700.jpg




http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-03/28647552.jpg






Nothing like a good blog obsession!

Comment by Scoopster on 10/09/2008 19:20:16
Mmmm.. isn't that the first model Pontiac made into a GTO?



Edit: Quick check on wiki says the Tempest GTO came around in 1965, but the first GTO was on the 64 LeMans..

Comment by BobR on 10/09/2008 19:50:03


:shocked: :rage:



Even if this wasn't a backscratch, do they really think the RNCC will be able to pay that back?



:boom:

Comment by m-hadley on 10/09/2008 19:59:43
Need another reason to convince your right-wing family and friends to vote for Obama? Try this one: Obama vs. McSame - Transition Teams and Basic Preparation to be President. OMG, I don't think I will survive until November 4th :rage:

:modbat:

Cheers,

mfaye

BTW, Hola everybody - it's been a busy day here at TU :P

:gobama:

Comment by IzzyBitz on 10/09/2008 20:06:51
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by IzzyBitz:

Quote by wickedpam:

Love me some Begala




Paul Begala. David Sedaris. Separated at birth? Discuss.



I always feel a wave of Sedaris funny when I see Paul on the TV machine.




I would say sorta. I mean David Sedaris writes painfully funny embarrassing stuff about him and his family. Begala is more outwardly directed. He brings up painfully embarrassing things about Republicans.




I was thinking in the looks department. They both have the sheepish boy look.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 20:17:18
Quote by m-hadley:

Need another reason to convince your right-wing family and friends to vote for Obama? Try this one: Obama vs. McSame - Transition Teams and Basic Preparation to be President. OMG, I don't think I will survive until November 4th :rage:

:modbat:

Cheers,

mfaye

BTW, Hola everybody - it's been a busy day here at TU :P

:gobama:




:thud:

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 20:19:07
Quote by IzzyBitz:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by IzzyBitz:

Quote by wickedpam:

Love me some Begala




Paul Begala. David Sedaris. Separated at birth? Discuss.



I always feel a wave of Sedaris funny when I see Paul on the TV machine.




I would say sorta. I mean David Sedaris writes painfully funny embarrassing stuff about him and his family. Begala is more outwardly directed. He brings up painfully embarrassing things about Republicans.




I was thinking in the looks department. They both have the sheepish boy look.




I knew that, yeah... ummm right. Oh look at the time!

Comment by IzzyBitz on 10/09/2008 20:22:00
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by IzzyBitz:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by IzzyBitz:

Quote by wickedpam:

Love me some Begala




Paul Begala. David Sedaris. Separated at birth? Discuss.



I always feel a wave of Sedaris funny when I see Paul on the TV machine.




I would say sorta. I mean David Sedaris writes painfully funny embarrassing stuff about him and his family. Begala is more outwardly directed. He brings up painfully embarrassing things about Republicans.




I was thinking in the looks department. They both have the sheepish boy look.




I knew that, yeah... ummm right. Oh look at the time!






Comment by velveeta jones on 10/09/2008 20:38:59
Um Mondo......... I had a really bad dream where a computer nerd was able to ID a classic car....... hahahahaha. Scary, huh?



:blink:

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 20:46:41
Quote by velveeta jones:

Um Mondo......... I had a really bad dream where a computer nerd was able to ID a classic car....... hahahahaha. Scary, huh?



:blink:






yeah totally scary!

Comment by BobR on 10/09/2008 20:50:19
Quote by velveeta jones:

Um Mondo......... I had a really bad dream where a computer nerd was able to ID a classic car....... hahahahaha. Scary, huh?



:blink:


computer nerds know how to use research tools on the web... ;)

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 21:15:55
Quote by BobR:

THE CAR MYSTERY IS SOLVED!!!



It's a 1962 Pontiac Tempest



http://www.cardatabase.net/photos/small/9/6/7/00029769.jpg
http://www.cardatabase.net/photos/small/1/0/7/00075701.jpg
http://www.cardatabase.net/photos/small/0/0/7/00075700.jpg




http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-03/28647552.jpg
YEAh, but are you Dead on balls accurate?



:rofl:





Comment by BobR on 10/09/2008 21:59:46
Quote by Raine:

YEAh, but are you Dead on balls accurate?



:rofl:





Oh moy gawad!

Comment by BobR on 10/09/2008 22:00:15
Comment by Shane-O on 10/09/2008 22:09:23
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

YEAh, but are you Dead on balls accurate?



:rofl:





Oh moy gawad!


That wuz a fuckin' nightmare...



Audicon not safe for work:



Comment by Scoopster on 10/09/2008 22:34:24
So uhh.. yeah.



I need to call my mom and my uncle.. This financial mess is really starting to fuck with my mind, and it's probably affected the family trust.

Comment by livingonli on 10/09/2008 22:46:12
I'm back. I was out longer than I expected. I have to catch up on a few things and then I will post in the Flyers thread.



It seems like I am busier on my days off then when I am working..

Comment by livingonli on 10/10/2008 00:29:55
Where is everyone tonight?

Comment by livingonli on 10/10/2008 00:57:08
MSNBC froze on me. Damn you, Cablevision. :shakes fist:

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/10/2008 01:01:21
Remember Dr Maddow is on The Tonight Show tonight! She says she wore her glasses.

Comment by livingonli on 10/10/2008 01:05:18
It looks like the people at the McCain rallies are dumber than a box of hammers. No wonder why they support him.

Comment by TriSec on 10/10/2008 01:06:19
Evening, folks! A succesful day was had by all at the fair...



Just a couple of photos.



A whole lotta gourd:



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/TriSec/Pumpkin.jpg


(First place pumpkin was over 1400 lbs...





And one for Bob:



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/TriSec/Beer.jpg


Comment by livingonli on 10/10/2008 01:08:37
How did anyone even carry those pumpkins?

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/10/2008 01:11:19
Quote by TriSec:

Evening, folks! A succesful day was had by all at the fair...



Just a couple of photos.



A whole lotta gourd:



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/TriSec/Pumpkin.jpg


(First place pumpkin was over 1400 lbs...





And one for Bob:



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/TriSec/Beer.jpg




That is one big pumpkin and one cute kid! Cute beer too.

Comment by livingonli on 10/10/2008 01:14:23
Rachel is going into the Alaskan Independence Party. And she addressed their convention THIS YEAR. And the leader said he hated America. So he who lives in glass houses, Ms. "Hockey Mom".

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/10/2008 01:15:40
Somehow I don't think the Alaska Independence Party doesn't like Jewish folks very much.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/10/2008 01:18:34
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/10/2008 01:27:24
My friend Scott calls CB Moose-o-lini. :rofl:

Comment by velveeta jones on 10/10/2008 01:31:39
Hey! That "Michael Moore" movie came out last week I think. Anyone know how's it doing? Badly?

Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/10/2008 01:37:32
Well they brought Bill Murray to SNL tonight



Question: How would you stop the Cubs from losing?



Comment by velveeta jones on 10/10/2008 01:44:50
Quote by velveeta jones:

Hey! That "Michael Moore" movie came out last week I think. Anyone know how's it doing? Badly?




:rofl: #9!! Oh, that's embarressing!! A dog movie is ahead of it!!



Comment by Mondobubba on 10/10/2008 01:55:34
Yeah there is some Delta Force guy on with Rachel. I wonder if one of my SCA associates was over in Afghanistan with this dude.

Comment by livingonli on 10/10/2008 01:56:37
Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Hey! That "Michael Moore" movie came out last week I think. Anyone know how's it doing? Badly?




:rofl: #9!! Oh, that's embarressing!! A dog movie is ahead of it!!



Don't forget it's also been available as a free download.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/10/2008 02:03:32
Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Hey! That "Michael Moore" movie came out last week I think. Anyone know how's it doing? Badly?




:rofl: #9!! Oh, that's embarressing!! A dog movie is ahead of it!!







Not just a dog, chihuahuas!

Comment by livingonli on 10/10/2008 02:12:45




More on Sarah Palin's friends.

Comment by velveeta jones on 10/10/2008 02:28:23
Gah... I don't like the Phillies.

And, must I hear God Bless America instead of the more bastriatic "Take Me out To the Ball Game"! Gah!! (I made that word up: Bastriatic!) :D

Comment by velveeta jones on 10/10/2008 02:30:36
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by velveeta jones:

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Hey! That "Michael Moore" movie came out last week I think. Anyone know how's it doing? Badly?




:rofl: #9!! Oh, that's embarressing!! A dog movie is ahead of it!!



Don't forget it's also been available as a free download.


I wouldn't watch it if you PAID me to!

I will be going to see W. on opening day though! :metal:

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/10/2008 02:33:58
Quote by velveeta jones:

Gah... I don't like the Phillies.

And, must I hear God Bless America instead of the more bastriatic "Take Me out To the Ball Game"! Gah!! (I made that word up: Bastriatic!) :D






What does it mean VJ?

Comment by livingonli on 10/10/2008 02:36:34
CBC News noted that the DJIA has dropped 40% since it hit its all time high a year ago.

Comment by velveeta jones on 10/10/2008 02:37:14
Quote by livingonli:





More on Sarah Palin's friends.




Beautiful!! OMG! Now, here's a question. Do you think it's smart to attempt to become an independent nation when you hardly have enough people in your state to start much of an army and you have a shit load of oil? Doesn't that seem a tad........ careless? Naive? Asking for it?



Just sayin'.....

Comment by BobR on 10/10/2008 03:37:04
For anyone still up, Rachel Maddow is going to be on the Tonight Show... um... tonight. It's coming on now; she's the second guest.

Comment by BobR on 10/10/2008 03:42:11
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Evening, folks! A succesful day was had by all at the fair...



Just a couple of photos.



A whole lotta gourd:



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/TriSec/Pumpkin.jpg


(First place pumpkin was over 1400 lbs...





And one for Bob:



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/TriSec/Beer.jpg


Your fairs have beer? oh man...



I don't think the Baptist Church allows that down here...



no fair! (pun intended...) :P

Comment by Raine on 10/10/2008 03:43:39
Quote by livingonli:

CBC News noted that the DJIA has dropped 40% since it hit its all time high a year ago.


This morning , the US market was at a 35% drop... I suspect that after today we may be at 37-39%.







Comment by livingonli on 10/10/2008 03:47:19
I've got the HD set fired up for Rachel. She's supposed to wear her glasses.

Comment by Raine on 10/10/2008 03:48:32
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/10/2008 03:51:17
Quote by BobR:

For anyone still up, Rachel Maddow is going to be on the Tonight Show... um... tonight. It's coming on now; she's the second guest.




Yeah I am actually watching Leno. I could be watching guys raping each other on Oz. But no, I am devoted to the good Doctor.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/10/2008 03:52:34
Sticky Sheets. WTF!

Comment by livingonli on 10/10/2008 03:58:52
So, who's going to pick up the Barack Obama comic book?

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/10/2008 04:17:05
Finally! Enough with the Mark Whalberg. We want the smart lady with the flaven!

Comment by livingonli on 10/10/2008 04:18:27
That's where PIP comes in handy. I have the Calgary-Vancouver game on while waiting for Rachel.