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So this is what it's like... Strange feeling.
Author: Raine
Date: 01/29/2009 13:28:28
Is it a new day? Yesterday we learned that after removing the 2 biggest objections to the stimulus package - grass and condoms - the entire Republican side of the aisle in the house voted against it. ALL of them. 244-188. 11 Dems voted against the package as well, and it STILL passed.
Was it everything the Dems wanted? NO... but it was a damn fine start to acting like the majority party. A majority party that can actually get things done without shoving people into basements or cutting off microphones in order to have hearings about the Patriot Act... How refreshing! This time Republicans did succeed at one very important thing: they have shown that the new true leader of the RNC is Rush Limbaugh. In doing so, they are truly showing that they have nothing but obstructive politics in mind.
I feel badly for the people these politicians represent, regardless of party lines. There are many truly good folk in America who are conservative and not neo-cons . They have been sold a bill of goods by these people with an ( R ) next to there name. Until yesterday, I would have told you there are some good people on that side of the aisle, I did not want to lump them all into one vague generalization, because - quite simply - it wasn't fair to do that. But the ENTIRE GOP delegation voted against stimulating the American economy? ALL of them? After John Boehner told them too, after he was given the dictate from a drug-addled radio host? AFTER everyone in America was informed of this information? They ALL voted no?
Now I will say it: they are the ones who are bordering on "hating America". They would have the very people who elected them to office homeless and out of work. They would have them unable to feed their children or give them medication. They are the ones who would have our bridges and roads continue to crumble underneath our feet, and they are the ones who would have our children continue to attend schools that are falling down around them.
All this done in the name of being obstructionist, they have shown themselves to truly be spiteful and bitter. They put Party before country, and blame before responsibility and accountability. Now all the Dems have to do is keep on keeping on. This vote yesterday showed us all that, they CAN try to be bipartisan, they can reach out, but in the end - they don't HAVE to. That should be sending an icy chill down the spine of every house member on the minority side of the aisle.
It feels good to know that we can finally get things done in Washington for the good of America, not just for party. I almost don't believe it, it's been so long. It's very "stimulating"... perhaps that's what that strange feeling is...
:peace: and:heart:
Raine
Was it everything the Dems wanted? NO... but it was a damn fine start to acting like the majority party. A majority party that can actually get things done without shoving people into basements or cutting off microphones in order to have hearings about the Patriot Act... How refreshing! This time Republicans did succeed at one very important thing: they have shown that the new true leader of the RNC is Rush Limbaugh. In doing so, they are truly showing that they have nothing but obstructive politics in mind.
I feel badly for the people these politicians represent, regardless of party lines. There are many truly good folk in America who are conservative and not neo-cons . They have been sold a bill of goods by these people with an ( R ) next to there name. Until yesterday, I would have told you there are some good people on that side of the aisle, I did not want to lump them all into one vague generalization, because - quite simply - it wasn't fair to do that. But the ENTIRE GOP delegation voted against stimulating the American economy? ALL of them? After John Boehner told them too, after he was given the dictate from a drug-addled radio host? AFTER everyone in America was informed of this information? They ALL voted no?
Now I will say it: they are the ones who are bordering on "hating America". They would have the very people who elected them to office homeless and out of work. They would have them unable to feed their children or give them medication. They are the ones who would have our bridges and roads continue to crumble underneath our feet, and they are the ones who would have our children continue to attend schools that are falling down around them.
All this done in the name of being obstructionist, they have shown themselves to truly be spiteful and bitter. They put Party before country, and blame before responsibility and accountability. Now all the Dems have to do is keep on keeping on. This vote yesterday showed us all that, they CAN try to be bipartisan, they can reach out, but in the end - they don't HAVE to. That should be sending an icy chill down the spine of every house member on the minority side of the aisle.
It feels good to know that we can finally get things done in Washington for the good of America, not just for party. I almost don't believe it, it's been so long. It's very "stimulating"... perhaps that's what that strange feeling is...
:peace: and:heart:
Raine
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Comment by 
BobR on 01/29/2009 13:47:39
BobR on 01/29/2009 13:47:39
The Repubs are betting that the stimulus doesn't work. If it doesn't then they can use their vote next election against the Dems.
Of course, if the stimulus DOES work, then they are screwed.
That's one hell of a Hail Mary on 4th down, especially considering they're using the American economy for their power-play (sorry for mixing sports metaphors)
The reason this may actually work for them is that even if the stimulus does work, it may take longer than 2010 for the effects to really be noticeable.
Of course, if the stimulus DOES work, then they are screwed.
That's one hell of a Hail Mary on 4th down, especially considering they're using the American economy for their power-play (sorry for mixing sports metaphors)
The reason this may actually work for them is that even if the stimulus does work, it may take longer than 2010 for the effects to really be noticeable.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 01/29/2009 13:51:05
wickedpam on 01/29/2009 13:51:05
Morning :hug:
Comment by 
TriSec on 01/29/2009 14:05:10
TriSec on 01/29/2009 14:05:10
At the end of the day, these three things matter:
Is there food on the table?
Do my kids have a warm, safe place to sleep tonight?
Am I going to work tomorrow?
The party that can deliver that will remain in power or win the next election. It's that simple.
Is there food on the table?
Do my kids have a warm, safe place to sleep tonight?
Am I going to work tomorrow?
The party that can deliver that will remain in power or win the next election. It's that simple.
Comment by 
Raine on 01/29/2009 14:08:47
Raine on 01/29/2009 14:08:47
Change has come to Lego Land
Comment by TriSec on 01/29/2009 14:11:46
TriSec on 01/29/2009 14:11:46
Given today's culture though, I doubt the electorate is ready to wait a long time for anything.
Remember that FDR was elected in 1932....by the eve of WWII, 7 years later, we were only on the road to recovery, but not there yet. Fortunately much of what he did made the production victory of WWII possible.
In the 'instant gratification' era, I wonder how patient America will be for a recovery?
Remember that FDR was elected in 1932....by the eve of WWII, 7 years later, we were only on the road to recovery, but not there yet. Fortunately much of what he did made the production victory of WWII possible.
In the 'instant gratification' era, I wonder how patient America will be for a recovery?
Comment by wickedpam on 01/29/2009 14:12:21
wickedpam on 01/29/2009 14:12:21
That's cute :)
Comment by BobR on 01/29/2009 14:13:15
That's been my nagging concern as well...
BobR on 01/29/2009 14:13:15
Quote by TriSec:
Given today's culture though, I doubt the electorate is ready to wait a long time for anything.
Remember that FDR was elected in 1932....by the eve of WWII, 7 years later, we were only on the road to recovery, but not there yet. Fortunately much of what he did made the production victory of WWII possible.
In the 'instant gratification' era, I wonder how patient America will be for a recovery?
That's been my nagging concern as well...
Comment by 
starling310 on 01/29/2009 14:13:32
Good point Tri.
To think I was naive enough to think that the Republicans in office would agree once they were out from underBush's Cheney's thumb.
starling310 on 01/29/2009 14:13:32
Quote by TriSec:
At the end of the day, these three things matter:
Is there food on the table?
Do my kids have a warm, safe place to sleep tonight?
Am I going to work tomorrow?
The party that can deliver that will remain in power or win the next election. It's that simple.
Good point Tri.
To think I was naive enough to think that the Republicans in office would agree once they were out from under
Comment by TriSec on 01/29/2009 14:16:01
TriSec on 01/29/2009 14:16:01
And in TriSec's Idle Thought of the Day, I am wondering why one of Microsoft's fonts is named "Trebuchet MS"....
Isn't a Trebuchet this beast?
Isn't a Trebuchet this beast?
Comment by Raine on 01/29/2009 14:17:27
I believe that many Americans know that this is going to take time... it is the loudest 20%-ers that worry me...
Also known as Ditto heads. <_<
Raine on 01/29/2009 14:17:27
Quote by BobR:Quote by TriSec:
Given today's culture though, I doubt the electorate is ready to wait a long time for anything.
Remember that FDR was elected in 1932....by the eve of WWII, 7 years later, we were only on the road to recovery, but not there yet. Fortunately much of what he did made the production victory of WWII possible.
In the 'instant gratification' era, I wonder how patient America will be for a recovery?
That's been my nagging concern as well...
Also known as Ditto heads. <_<
Comment by BobR on 01/29/2009 14:21:10
Ask and you shall receive
BobR on 01/29/2009 14:21:10
Quote by TriSec:
And in TriSec's Idle Thought of the Day, I am wondering why one of Microsoft's fonts is named "Trebuchet MS"....
Isn't a Trebuchet this beast?
Ask and you shall receive
Comment by wickedpam on 01/29/2009 14:24:32
They've been "taking orders" for a whole week and a half something tells me its going to get a long 2-8years for them
wickedpam on 01/29/2009 14:24:32
Quote by Raine:
The eternal Flame of hope for the GOP... LIterally.
They've been "taking orders" for a whole week and a half something tells me its going to get a long 2-8years for them
Comment by wickedpam on 01/29/2009 14:26:45
wickedpam on 01/29/2009 14:26:45
rambly much
Comment by wickedpam on 01/29/2009 14:29:07
wickedpam on 01/29/2009 14:29:07
what in the hell is this dude talking about he's all over the freaking place
Comment by wickedpam on 01/29/2009 14:29:57
wickedpam on 01/29/2009 14:29:57
so poor people shouldn't have houses and there should be no regulations on anything :scratchhead:
Comment by BobR on 01/29/2009 14:31:57
That would be the Republican Utopia...
oh wait - they DO want regulations on personal behavior, especially as it pertains to sexuality.
BobR on 01/29/2009 14:31:57
Quote by wickedpam:
so poor people shouldn't have houses and there should be no regulations on anything :scratchhead:
That would be the Republican Utopia...
oh wait - they DO want regulations on personal behavior, especially as it pertains to sexuality.
Comment by Raine on 01/29/2009 14:32:09
Isn't that just a sad little story?
Raine on 01/29/2009 14:32:09
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
The eternal Flame of hope for the GOP... LIterally.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/29/2009 14:34:30
their control freaks basically
wickedpam on 01/29/2009 14:34:30
Quote by Raine:Isn't that just a sad little story?Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
The eternal Flame of hope for the GOP... LIterally.
their control freaks basically
Comment by TriSec on 01/29/2009 14:37:35
What?
That's not The Onion?
They really built a monument and lit an eternal flame to celebrate their takeover in 1994?
Time to blow that out, methinks.
TriSec on 01/29/2009 14:37:35
Quote by Raine:
The eternal Flame of hope for the GOP... LIterally.
What?
That's not The Onion?
They really built a monument and lit an eternal flame to celebrate their takeover in 1994?
Time to blow that out, methinks.
Comment by Raine on 01/29/2009 14:38:43
I didn't know that either. Amazing huh? The GOP ego knows no boundries.
Raine on 01/29/2009 14:38:43
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Raine:
The eternal Flame of hope for the GOP... LIterally.
What?
That's not The Onion?
They really built a monument and lit an eternal flame to celebrate their takeover in 1994?
Time to blow that out, methinks.
Comment by Raine on 01/29/2009 14:43:58
Raine on 01/29/2009 14:43:58
Comment by BobR on 01/29/2009 14:46:30
I suspect they believed they would never lose power and decades in the future historians would look back on them with the same reverence that they currently do for Washington, Roosevelt, and Lincoln.
Of course, none of those men ever erected monuments for themselves.
BobR on 01/29/2009 14:46:30
Quote by TriSec:
What?
That's not The Onion?
They really built a monument and lit an eternal flame to celebrate their takeover in 1994?
Time to blow that out, methinks.
I suspect they believed they would never lose power and decades in the future historians would look back on them with the same reverence that they currently do for Washington, Roosevelt, and Lincoln.
Of course, none of those men ever erected monuments for themselves.
Comment by TriSec on 01/29/2009 14:49:59
Dictators do shit like that. We really were on the precipice, weren't we?
TriSec on 01/29/2009 14:49:59
Quote by Raine:
I didn't know that either. Amazing huh? The GOP ego knows no boundries.
Dictators do shit like that. We really were on the precipice, weren't we?
Comment by 
m-hadley on 01/29/2009 14:50:17
m-hadley on 01/29/2009 14:50:17
I just sent this message to Steph ( and I mean it - haruuumph :rage:)
Enough with the bi-partisanship! In the current Stimulus Package, Democrats gave up birth control for poor people (a move that would save loads of money, never mind unnecessary abortions - I thought that the GOP loathed abortions - guess not). Dems also included over 40 billion dollars of non-stimulating tax cuts against their better judgment and against all advice from noted economists worth any salt. Why did they do these things? Just to get the Republicans to go along with the Bill and what thanks did they get for making these concessions? Nothing, Nada, Zero, Zilch - not one freaking Republican voted for the Stimulus Bill. So I say why consult and court the GOP? All they are about is obstruction - "No" seems to be their only answer.
Cheers,
mfaye
Enough with the bi-partisanship! In the current Stimulus Package, Democrats gave up birth control for poor people (a move that would save loads of money, never mind unnecessary abortions - I thought that the GOP loathed abortions - guess not). Dems also included over 40 billion dollars of non-stimulating tax cuts against their better judgment and against all advice from noted economists worth any salt. Why did they do these things? Just to get the Republicans to go along with the Bill and what thanks did they get for making these concessions? Nothing, Nada, Zero, Zilch - not one freaking Republican voted for the Stimulus Bill. So I say why consult and court the GOP? All they are about is obstruction - "No" seems to be their only answer.
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by Raine on 01/29/2009 14:52:00
Raine on 01/29/2009 14:52:00
Comment by Raine on 01/29/2009 14:53:35
This is the part that DOES piss me off... I am hoping that the lesson was learned.
I have a feeling that this sucker is NOT going to pass in the Senate...
Raine on 01/29/2009 14:53:35
Quote by m-hadley:
I just sent this message to Steph ( and I mean it - haruuumph :rage:)
Enough with the bi-partisanship! In the current Stimulus Package, Democrats gave up birth control for poor people (a move that would save loads of money, never mind unnecessary abortions - I thought that the GOP loathed abortions - guess not). Dems also included over 40 billion dollars of non-stimulating tax cuts against their better judgment and against all advice from noted economists worth any salt. Why did they do these things? Just to get the Republicans to go along with the Bill and what thanks did they get for making these concessions? Nothing, Nada, Zero, Zilch - not one freaking Republican voted for the Stimulus Bill. So I say why consult and court the GOP? All they are about is obstruction - "No" seems to be their only answer.
Cheers,
mfaye
I have a feeling that this sucker is NOT going to pass in the Senate...
Comment by starling310 on 01/29/2009 14:56:42
starling310 on 01/29/2009 14:56:42
It still seems unnerving that we talk openly about killing people.
I know they are "bad guys" and our "enemies." But, boy it's strange when leaders say things like "We will find them and kill them."
I know they are "bad guys" and our "enemies." But, boy it's strange when leaders say things like "We will find them and kill them."
Comment by m-hadley on 01/29/2009 15:01:47
Raine & Other 4Fers,
I am hoping that a few brave Senators grow a spine and TAKE OUT the freakin' tax cuts and PUT BACK IN the birth control provision for low-income people - and then vote on the Bill, and if it it doesn't pass then they can blame the hell out of the Republicans, rightlfully, for the mess that we are in. I'm just saying :rage:
Cheers,
mfaye
& :peace:
m-hadley on 01/29/2009 15:01:47
Quote by Raine:This is the part that DOES piss me off... I am hoping that the lesson was learned.Quote by m-hadley:
I just sent this message to Steph ( and I mean it - haruuumph :rage:)
Enough with the bi-partisanship! In the current Stimulus Package, Democrats gave up birth control for poor people (a move that would save loads of money, never mind unnecessary abortions - I thought that the GOP loathed abortions - guess not). Dems also included over 40 billion dollars of non-stimulating tax cuts against their better judgment and against all advice from noted economists worth any salt. Why did they do these things? Just to get the Republicans to go along with the Bill and what thanks did they get for making these concessions? Nothing, Nada, Zero, Zilch - not one freaking Republican voted for the Stimulus Bill. So I say why consult and court the GOP? All they are about is obstruction - "No" seems to be their only answer.
Cheers,
mfaye
I have a feeling that this sucker is NOT going to pass in the Senate...
Raine & Other 4Fers,
I am hoping that a few brave Senators grow a spine and TAKE OUT the freakin' tax cuts and PUT BACK IN the birth control provision for low-income people - and then vote on the Bill, and if it it doesn't pass then they can blame the hell out of the Republicans, rightlfully, for the mess that we are in. I'm just saying :rage:
Cheers,
mfaye
& :peace:
Comment by 
Scoopster on 01/29/2009 15:09:59
Scoopster on 01/29/2009 15:09:59
Morning all... forgive me if I'm a bit distracted from the goings on in the world. I'm too busy kowtowing to a pushy ad agency owner bitching about why I resized his gargantuan graphics, and trying my best not to call him and shout into the phone BECAUSE YOU CAN'T READ THE INSTRUCTIONS I SENT ON THE DIMENSIONS!
:boom:
:boom:
Comment by wickedpam on 01/29/2009 15:16:33
wickedpam on 01/29/2009 15:16:33
has anyone done the stephspace stuff?
Comment by m-hadley on 01/29/2009 15:26:19
Mala,
I signed up, but I'm not sure why. I can barely keep up with my FaceCrack page and the MySpace. I guess I do ocassionally post to the live blog, so that is why I signed up, but as far as I can tell it is just one more "social networking" page to maintain.
:P
Cheers,
mfaye :hug:
m-hadley on 01/29/2009 15:26:19
Quote by wickedpam:
has anyone done the stephspace stuff?
Mala,
I signed up, but I'm not sure why. I can barely keep up with my FaceCrack page and the MySpace. I guess I do ocassionally post to the live blog, so that is why I signed up, but as far as I can tell it is just one more "social networking" page to maintain.
:PCheers,
mfaye :hug:
Comment by m-hadley on 01/29/2009 15:27:39
Hang in there Scoop,
Sounds like it is best to keep your cool :D
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 01/29/2009 15:27:39
Quote by Scoopster:
Morning all... forgive me if I'm a bit distracted from the goings on in the world. I'm too busy kowtowing to a pushy ad agency owner bitching about why I resized his gargantuan graphics, and trying my best not to call him and shout into the phone BECAUSE YOU CAN'T READ THE INSTRUCTIONS I SENT ON THE DIMENSIONS!
:boom:
Hang in there Scoop,
Sounds like it is best to keep your cool :D
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by wickedpam on 01/29/2009 15:44:38
wickedpam on 01/29/2009 15:44:38
Hey folks its been 9 days since the inauguration can we please, please, please give people a chance to look around an see what's going on before we start bitchin' 
(thats for the callers this morning)
(thats for the callers this morning)
Comment by Scoopster on 01/29/2009 15:51:29
:hug: Thanks Faye.. I needed that! And a cuppa coffee.. :coffee2:
So I ended up resizing his graphics a third time, making them larger than everyone else's pics but still fairly under control, then handed that mess off to the owner who mentions "Yeah it figures that's the guy who has pictures in his office with Daddy Bush on the golf course up in Kennebunkport." And then it clicks where the stubborness comes from.
Scoopster on 01/29/2009 15:51:29
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by Scoopster:
Morning all... forgive me if I'm a bit distracted from the goings on in the world. I'm too busy kowtowing to a pushy ad agency owner bitching about why I resized his gargantuan graphics, and trying my best not to call him and shout into the phone BECAUSE YOU CAN'T READ THE INSTRUCTIONS I SENT ON THE DIMENSIONS!
:boom:
Hang in there Scoop,
Sounds like it is best to keep your cool :D
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug: Thanks Faye.. I needed that! And a cuppa coffee.. :coffee2:
So I ended up resizing his graphics a third time, making them larger than everyone else's pics but still fairly under control, then handed that mess off to the owner who mentions "Yeah it figures that's the guy who has pictures in his office with Daddy Bush on the golf course up in Kennebunkport." And then it clicks where the stubborness comes from.
Comment by Raine on 01/29/2009 15:53:06
Raine on 01/29/2009 15:53:06
Speeking of Energy Plans... I am wondering do you think they are ever going to reveal what EXACTLY Dick Cheney Private meeting with the Fuel industry people was all aboot?
Also... in other news... REALLY REALLY good news .. the Lilly Ledbetter Act is NOW LAW!!!
Also... in other news... REALLY REALLY good news .. the Lilly Ledbetter Act is NOW LAW!!!
Comment by Raine on 01/29/2009 15:53:35
Raine on 01/29/2009 15:53:35
mm... Coffee... good idea scoop!
Comment by Raine on 01/29/2009 15:55:24
Raine on 01/29/2009 15:55:24
:rolleyes2:
Comment by 
livingonli on 01/29/2009 16:03:51
livingonli on 01/29/2009 16:03:51
Good morning everyone. 
Well played there, Raine with today's blog.
Well played there, Raine with today's blog.
Comment by livingonli on 01/29/2009 16:07:22
It toook 8 years for Bush to completely trash the economy. At least the polls indicate that people will be patient but in an era of short attention spans and short memories, we will have to see if that sticks.
livingonli on 01/29/2009 16:07:22
Quote by TriSec:
Given today's culture though, I doubt the electorate is ready to wait a long time for anything.
Remember that FDR was elected in 1932....by the eve of WWII, 7 years later, we were only on the road to recovery, but not there yet. Fortunately much of what he did made the production victory of WWII possible.
In the 'instant gratification' era, I wonder how patient America will be for a recovery?
It toook 8 years for Bush to completely trash the economy. At least the polls indicate that people will be patient but in an era of short attention spans and short memories, we will have to see if that sticks.
Comment by livingonli on 01/29/2009 16:10:03
Just listen to Rush's ego bloviate when he spews his hot air.
livingonli on 01/29/2009 16:10:03
Quote by Raine:I didn't know that either. Amazing huh? The GOP ego knows no boundries.Quote by TriSec:Quote by Raine:
The eternal Flame of hope for the GOP... LIterally.
What?
That's not The Onion?
They really built a monument and lit an eternal flame to celebrate their takeover in 1994?
Time to blow that out, methinks.
Just listen to Rush's ego bloviate when he spews his hot air.
Comment by livingonli on 01/29/2009 16:13:34
I haven't done it yet, but I probably will do it myself.
livingonli on 01/29/2009 16:13:34
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by wickedpam:
has anyone done the stephspace stuff?
Mala,
I signed up, but I'm not sure why. I can barely keep up with my FaceCrack page and the MySpace. I guess I do ocassionally post to the live blog, so that is why I signed up, but as far as I can tell it is just one more "social networking" page to maintain.
Cheers,
mfaye :hug:
I haven't done it yet, but I probably will do it myself.
Comment by Raine on 01/29/2009 16:14:41
Why thank you!
Raine on 01/29/2009 16:14:41
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning everyone.
Well played there, Raine with today's blog.
Why thank you!
Comment by livingonli on 01/29/2009 16:18:56
livingonli on 01/29/2009 16:18:56
If that peanut plant did send salmonella tainted products willingly they should be put out of business. Just saw it mentioned again on the news.
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 01/29/2009 16:29:33
velveeta jones on 01/29/2009 16:29:33
Morning all. Slept late - rather, stayed in bed. Having trouble with the whole "sleep" thing these days.
:yawn:
Maybe I'll get some shut-eye at work today. :p
:yawn:
Maybe I'll get some shut-eye at work today. :p
Comment by Raine on 01/29/2009 16:36:41
good Mornign Ms. Jones! 
<--1/2 calf. I am all about the full disclosure!
Raine on 01/29/2009 16:36:41
Quote by velveeta jones:
Morning all. Slept late - rather, stayed in bed. Having trouble with the whole "sleep" thing these days.
:yawn:
Maybe I'll get some shut-eye at work today. :p
<--1/2 calf. I am all about the full disclosure!
Comment by Raine on 01/29/2009 16:38:55
Ther eis a little snippet in here about WHY she started Sarah Pac.
Raine on 01/29/2009 16:38:55
Quote by Raine:
Call me crazy... but isn't the Alfalfa club, kinda Elitist?
Ther eis a little snippet in here about WHY she started Sarah Pac.
Comment by Raine on 01/29/2009 16:39:34
Raine on 01/29/2009 16:39:34
It's a Sarahceance!