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Iran - Day 12
Author: BobR    Date: 06/24/2009 12:20:28

It's been twelve days since the Iranian people voted. We've seen the protests go from violent to peaceful, to violent again, the violence initially coming from the protesters, then shifting to the government forces. It's a standoff on a national scale, both sides waiting for the other side to blink. It appears that won't happen any time soon.

The supreme leader in Iran (the Ayatollah) is not about to admit he made a mistake and has stated he will not give in to pressure to change or nullify the results of the election:
"On the current situation, I was insisting and will insist on implementation of the law. That means, we will not go one step beyond the law," Khamenei said on state television. "For sure, neither the system nor the people will give in to pressures at any price." He used language that indicated he was referring to domestic pressures.
[...]
Khamenei said in a stern sermon broadcast to the nation Friday that Ahmadinejad was the legitimate winner. He told opposition supporters to halt their protests and blamed the U.S., Britain and other foreign powers for instigating unrest.

In an apparent effort to ensure that his position is enforced, Mousavi has been put under 24-hour guard:
The Iranian opposition leader Mirhossein Mousavi is under 24-hour guard by secret police and no longer able to speak freely to supporters, according to the film director Mohsen Makhmalbaf.

Mr Makhmalbaf, 52, an informal spokesman abroad for the protest in Iran, said that Mr Mousavi was not under arrest but "he has security agents, secret police with him all the time. He has to be careful what he says."

In a telephone interview, Mr Makhmalbaf, the director of the 2001 film Kandaha, denied suggestions that the protests against the re-election of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad were losing steam.

"The regime, arguably, is losing ground, not the protests," he said. "Ordinary Iranians are openly rejecting the legitimacy and power of Ayatollah Khamanei. That is entirely new, unheard of."

Not only are "ordinary Iranians" openly rejecting the power of Ayatollah Khamanei, so are some clerics:
A photo showing Iranian clerics prominently participating in an anti-government protest speaks volumes about the new face of Iran's opposition movement.

In a blatant act of defiance, a group of Mullahs took to the streets of Tehran, to protest election results that returned incumbent President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to power.

Whether these clerics voted for Ahmadinejad or one of the opposition candidates is unknown. What is important here, is the decision to march against the will of Iran's supreme leader who called the results final and declared demonstrations illegal.

President Obama has said before (and repeated again yesterday at his press conference) that the United States will not meddle in the affairs of other governments. Meddling, however, seems to be the goal of certain neocons, according to Chris Hayes:
"I want to make sure I understand both sides in this Republican fight," Maddow said. "What is it that John McCain and Lindsey Graham and all those guys actually want the White House to do?"

Hayes responded, "You know, that‘s a really good question. I mean, I think in the long mythology of neoconservativism, there is this notion that, you know, Reagan single-handedly brought down the entire Soviet empire because he said, 'Tear down this wall,' and that somehow if you are like really willful and chest-thumping that the world will sort of bend to your will."

"So I imagine they want, you know, sterner rhetoric," Hayes added. "They want some kind of escalation. Ward(ph) hopes that they don‘t want some kind of military action although you never because people have been advocating all sorts of crazy things vis a vis Iran for a long time. So I don‘t know."
(video at link)

As if on cue, FAUX News agrees that sterner words are better:
After the press conference, syndicated columnist Charles Krauthammer, appearing on Fox News Channel, attacked Obama for "pretending" to be consistent on Iran, although he applauded him for talking harder now. Nearly everyone on Fox agreed that Obama had changed his tone because he used words like "appalled" and "outrage."
:rolleyes2:

Iran accuses Britain and the U.S. of meddling already, and - considering our sordid past - there's reason to suspect we probably are. I just hope that when all is said and done (the sooner the better), the will of the Iranian people is carried out, whether or not it is what those in power outside of Iran want.

 

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Comment by TriSec on 06/24/2009 12:36:17
Morning, comrades! : waves southwesterly :



Your Loyal TriSec is a happy camper this morning. If you saw last night, I pulled out a dinosaur and connected it to the ol' internets just to get online. (Win 98, gah!)



But I also remembered a couple of old documents that I was never able to convert successfully, and it turns out I need them this weekend.



I have been able to resurrect my "Life List". Like most birdwatchers, I keep a list of things I've seen at airshows.



The last one I went to was in August of 2001....the summer before Javi came home.



I'm headed down to Rhode Island this weekend to see the Blue Angels. I can almost smell the jet fumes...





Comment by clintster on 06/24/2009 13:07:50
Buenos Aires? Yikes!

Comment by wickedpam on 06/24/2009 13:08:26
Morning :hug:

Comment by velveeta jones on 06/24/2009 13:13:12
Morning all.

Gov Mark Sanford........

:rofl: What a piece of work!

Comment by TriSec on 06/24/2009 13:24:11
Well, at least we won't have to worry about a water shortage come August.



Grumble, grouse, GRUNT!



:kickcan:





Comment by Scoopster on 06/24/2009 13:24:51
Tri!! We oughta hook up when you're down here! Whereabouts is the air show - Quonset Point?

Comment by Random on 06/24/2009 13:32:50
since I only know you people...I've started up my blog again...kinda

Comment by TriSec on 06/24/2009 13:43:27
www.riairshow.com/



Quonset State Airport....



Looking like Sunday may be the better weather day right now.





Comment by Scoopster on 06/24/2009 13:46:17
Cool beanos..



Eep.. gotta run to a staff meeting - we'll figure out the logistics later! :sprint:

Comment by wickedpam on 06/24/2009 13:57:47
Quote by Random:

since I only know you people...I've started up my blog again...kinda






what is Zork?

Comment by Raine on 06/24/2009 14:10:51
:hug: Good morning!

Comment by Raine on 06/24/2009 14:12:38
Don't cry for Mark, Argentina...



The truth is I never left you...





:rolleyes2:



The story STILL doesn't make sense --

Comment by wickedpam on 06/24/2009 14:15:54
I can see going to Argentina when it's cold here but its winter there - what was he up to? What is Argentina know for?

Comment by Raine on 06/24/2009 14:16:44
Wurzelbacher — who really is a plumber, though he admitted he hadn’t gotten a license after moving to Ohio last year — stayed mainly on the rails in a brief speech to partygoers.



“This country has been great for over 180 years,” Wurzelbacher said after urging folks to study the Constitution. It wasn’t clear whether something happened in the late 1820s to make the United States great, but other than a few puzzled glances from the crowd, everyone went with it.


:thud:







Comment by Raine on 06/24/2009 14:18:35
Quote by wickedpam:

I can see going to Argentina when it's cold here but its winter there - what was he up to? What is Argentina know for?


Plastic surgery...



Or lovers?

Comment by wickedpam on 06/24/2009 14:24:32
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

I can see going to Argentina when it's cold here but its winter there - what was he up to? What is Argentina know for?


Plastic surgery...



Or lovers?






aren't there old Nazi's in Argentina?

Comment by TriSec on 06/24/2009 14:26:45
Wasn't the Missouri Compromise signed in 1820?









Comment by Random on 06/24/2009 14:27:50
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

since I only know you people...I've started up my blog again...kinda






what is Zork?


O.o

Zork is a classic text based adventure.

Comment by TriSec on 06/24/2009 14:28:45
And the Monroe Doctrine in 1823.



OK, I see where Joe's head is now.





Comment by wickedpam on 06/24/2009 14:36:38
Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

since I only know you people...I've started up my blog again...kinda






what is Zork?


O.o

Zork is a classic text based adventure.




do I lose geek-cred for not knowing what a text-based adventure is?

Comment by Random on 06/24/2009 14:44:45
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

since I only know you people...I've started up my blog again...kinda






what is Zork?


O.o

Zork is a classic text based adventure.




do I lose geek-cred for not knowing what a text-based adventure is?


yes you do.

It's basically from a time before comps could create anything besides Text. and the game would provide everything you needed, written on the screen. and you'd control the character by typing in commands. like look, walk, pick up.

Comment by wickedpam on 06/24/2009 14:50:19
Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

since I only know you people...I've started up my blog again...kinda






what is Zork?


O.o

Zork is a classic text based adventure.




do I lose geek-cred for not knowing what a text-based adventure is?


yes you do.

It's basically from a time before comps could create anything besides Text. and the game would provide everything you needed, written on the screen. and you'd control the character by typing in commands. like look, walk, pick up.






ooooohhhhh, and now I know ;)

Comment by BobR on 06/24/2009 14:54:03
Quote by Raine:

Don't cry for Mark, Argentina...



The truth is I never went there...





:rolleyes2:



The story STILL doesn't make sense --


fixity... :P

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/24/2009 14:55:29
Oy! My cable guy has come and gone! He was here right at the top of the service window.

Comment by Raine on 06/24/2009 14:57:33
Seattle Stream just dropped...



Chitown now on the iTunes.

Comment by Raine on 06/24/2009 14:58:30
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

Don't cry for Mark, Argentina...



The truth is I never went there...





:rolleyes2:



The story STILL doesn't make sense --


fixity... :P


:spit:

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/24/2009 14:59:33
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

since I only know you people...I've started up my blog again...kinda






what is Zork?


O.o

Zork is a classic text based adventure.




do I lose geek-cred for not knowing what a text-based adventure is?


yes you do.

It's basically from a time before comps could create anything besides Text. and the game would provide everything you needed, written on the screen. and you'd control the character by typing in commands. like look, walk, pick up.






ooooohhhhh, and now I know ;)




:cues swelling PSA music, "more you know backdrop":

Comment by wickedpam on 06/24/2009 15:02:10
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

since I only know you people...I've started up my blog again...kinda






what is Zork?


O.o

Zork is a classic text based adventure.




do I lose geek-cred for not knowing what a text-based adventure is?


yes you do.

It's basically from a time before comps could create anything besides Text. and the game would provide everything you needed, written on the screen. and you'd control the character by typing in commands. like look, walk, pick up.






ooooohhhhh, and now I know ;)




:cues swelling PSA music, "more you know backdrop":




:spit:

http://blogs.pitch.com/plog/the_more_you_know2.jpg


Comment by Random on 06/24/2009 15:03:21
Quote by wickedpam:



ooooohhhhh, and now I know ;)


well, only if you trust Random.

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/24/2009 15:03:40
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

since I only know you people...I've started up my blog again...kinda






what is Zork?


O.o

Zork is a classic text based adventure.




do I lose geek-cred for not knowing what a text-based adventure is?


yes you do.

It's basically from a time before comps could create anything besides Text. and the game would provide everything you needed, written on the screen. and you'd control the character by typing in commands. like look, walk, pick up.






ooooohhhhh, and now I know ;)




:cues swelling PSA music, "more you know backdrop":




:spit:

http://blogs.pitch.com/plog/the_more_you_know2.jpg






Well done! :clap:

Comment by Random on 06/24/2009 15:04:26
Comment by wickedpam on 06/24/2009 15:07:42
Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:



ooooohhhhh, and now I know ;)


well, only if you trust Random.






:shrug: you have not given me any reason not to trust you

Comment by Random on 06/24/2009 15:10:21
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:



ooooohhhhh, and now I know ;)


well, only if you trust Random.






:shrug: you have not given me any reason not to trust you


mwahahahahahahaha...wait...what...this thing is on...NOOOOOO!

Comment by Raine on 06/24/2009 15:11:39
Interesting Argentinian Fun Fact:



In Argentina prostitution itself (exchanging sex for money) is legal, but organized prostitution (brothels, prostitution rings, pimping etc) is illegal. According to Article 19 of the Constitution: ‘private actions that in no way offend order and public morals or do damage to a third party are reserved to be judged by God and fall outside the competence of judges’.







Comment by Raine on 06/24/2009 15:13:16
Comment by wickedpam on 06/24/2009 15:14:03
Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:



ooooohhhhh, and now I know ;)


well, only if you trust Random.






:shrug: you have not given me any reason not to trust you


mwahahahahahahaha...wait...what...this thing is on...NOOOOOO!






:p

Comment by Random on 06/24/2009 15:18:46
Quote by Raine:



:D


Random demands more tribute...with weird Wonkette.



well...I've jumped the shark.

Comment by livingonli on 06/24/2009 15:21:15
Good morning everyone.



Mala, can you pick up that new Air America DC station? I don't think they air Momma though but they do air Randi.

Comment by wickedpam on 06/24/2009 15:23:31
Quote by livingonli:

Good morning everyone.



Mala, can you pick up that new Air America DC station? I don't think they air Momma though but they do air Randi.






nope, already tried, all I get is static - AM stations mostly don't work in this area

Comment by wickedpam on 06/24/2009 15:26:37
:lol: my brain went to the same place with Hal on Argentina

Comment by livingonli on 06/24/2009 15:29:00
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by livingonli:

Good morning everyone.



Mala, can you pick up that new Air America DC station? I don't think they air Momma though but they do air Randi.






nope, already tried, all I get is static - AM stations mostly don't work in this area


Sounds like when I tried to pick up 1260 at the hotels when I've been in DC.

Comment by wickedpam on 06/24/2009 15:34:26
AM is a waste in this area - so it was pointless for them to put it on 1050- you have to have FM here for anyone to actually hear it

Comment by livingonli on 06/24/2009 15:41:56
And I'm sure the one powerful AM signal in DC is airing Rush and Hannity.

Comment by wickedpam on 06/24/2009 15:48:50
To my knowledge there aren't any truly "hearable" AM stations here

Comment by Raine on 06/24/2009 15:49:29
Actually there are bloody massacres going on in Iran right now...

Comment by Scoopster on 06/24/2009 15:54:17
Aaaaaand back from the meeting just in time for that which awaits us, indeed.

Comment by wickedpam on 06/24/2009 15:58:55
KTLK just crapped out again...

Comment by m-hadley on 06/24/2009 16:00:04
Morning Everyone :coffee:

I am gimping along on both crutches today (I had knee surgery last Friday ), but am trying to work - not very successfully as I am taking mucho pain pills :p

Anywho, just wanted to check in and say hey to my favorite bloggers. Also wanted to let you know that alas my blog has died - long live the blog ! Just got to be too much, plus I have taken to writing my memoirs when I am up at 2:00 in the morning. I'll let you know how that project is progressing - if you are at all interested Take care and thanks for maintaining this super groovy place for all of us to meet, carry on kids...

Cheers,

mfaye & :peace:

Comment by livingonli on 06/24/2009 16:00:37
In my case, it's time for breakfast.

Comment by wickedpam on 06/24/2009 16:05:24
Faye! :hug: