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Two Down, 48 to Go
Author: BobR    Date: 01/09/2008 13:32:34

The nation has another primary under its belt. As we all know by now, Hillary took the state with Obama in 2nd and Edwards in 3rd. On the Republican side, McCain took the state (not a big surprise there), followed by Romney and Huckabee a distant 3rd. 9ui11iani barely beat out Ron Paul for 4th, which shows just how much a tailspin his campaign is in, and how energized the Ron Paul supporters are.

McCain was called very early, not long after the polls closed. Hillary, however, wasn't called until much later. It was very close all night long, which really helped maintain the level of excitement. It gave us all a chance to watch the pundits blather and eat crow and gaze at their navels (they predicted an Obama blow out).

The concession speeches were the real show. First up was Huckabee, sans the floating head of Chuck Norris -w- teeth, giving another earnest-appearing speech to rally his base. He now has a 1st and a 3rd (same as Hillary), so he's got no reason to sweat - yet.

Edwards was next after a long introduction by Elizabeth, and a long hand-shaking walk to the stage (which seemed to irritate Keith Olbermann). He used the opportunity to once again get his message out, which I must admit could use a little updating. Yes we know your father worked in the mills, yes we know about the girl that died because of the health insurance company, yes we know about the cleft-pallette guy. Please, John, mix it up a little. Regardless, it was still inspiring and earnest, so good on him.

Romney (with what looked like the entire Mormon compound) gave a short speech. No biggie.

McCain then came on to give his winner's speech. After Huckabee and Edwards, it was a little sad. McCain was dull, dull, dull. He also kept his nose in his notes, barely looking up. Was it the weight of his chipmunk cheeks dragging his head down? The speech itself seemed like a series of disjointed talking points. The pundits were laughing, saying it sounded like every staffer wrote one line. Note to John: MEMORIZE YOUR SPEECH!

Or - you could do like Obama and use a teleprompter. As Obama was speaking, it became clear that he kept swiveling his head back and forth to the same two exact positions, and focusing his eyes on the same places. It was obvious he was reading his speech. To the casual viewer, it may have seemed like he was just looking out to the audience, but if you watched carefully, it wasn't so. Such is the magic of the transparent teleprompter. It was still an inspiring speech (and more of a positive message than Edwards), but the reading thing was distracting.

Finally, Hillary gave her winners speech. By this time, I was occupied doing other things, so I missed most of it. Even us intrepid reporters have to have a life, ya know...

So - as John Edwards put it: 99% of the country still haven't had their voices heard in this democratic process, so let's not read too much into these two early states. There are several more in the wings for January, and Super Tuesday is less than a month away!

377 days until Bush vacates the White House (and counting...)

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Comment by m-hadley on 01/09/2008 13:55:33
Hello,

Anybody out there? Thoughts on Hillary's victory - I am bummed, because from where I sit here in red Oklahoma - Hillary is just not gonna be electable. Whereas I was excited about the possibility of Obama (although I must agree with you all that Edwards is the better candidate), I'm back to being worried that the Dems may lose the whole thang, but it's early yet. Vamos a ver...

Cheers,

Faye

Comment by TriSec on 01/09/2008 13:58:20
Welcome aboard, m-hadley!



Coffee and donuts in the back...



Things will pick up after 9am when the Stephanie Miller News Program gets rolling.





I'm in the next state south, so I'm pleased that McCain won, because that means Romney didn't!!!





All Hilary's win proves is that the race is still wide open. We'll see who the MSM annoints as their standard-bearer next...



Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/09/2008 14:11:59
Hello, TriSec and welcome aboard m-hadley.



We must remember that most nominations in the Democratic or Republican primary are not decided by just the first two contests. There are many contests ahead, and I think that we will see strong efforts by Obama and Clinton to retool their campaigns. I wonder what the third place finishers and others who finished even lower in each party will do. Edwards may try to compete for a while, but unless he has several significant victories by the end of Super Tuesday, he may not be able to compete. (Politics is not only the art of the possible, it is also about having enough resources.) The campaign is very far from over.



The Unfiltered News Network Headlines for Wednesday are still being worked on, but feel free to take a look.

Comment by BobR on 01/09/2008 14:16:42
Hey m-hadley! Ya made it!



For those not "in the know", m-hadley is the Official Militant Librarian of the Stephanie Miller Show (the link to her site is in our Links list).



Woo - hoo!

Comment by m-hadley on 01/09/2008 14:30:34
It's fun in here - did you all hear my call-in to the SMS this morning? As I've said over and over I worry that Hillary is just NOT going to win a national contest, plus I had to tell Momma that she is not alone in her Obama corner.

Comment by velveeta jones on 01/09/2008 14:32:20
Morning all! (Or should that be: mourning all). And welcome to m-hadley.



Unhappy with the Hillary win, but rather happy about McCain, for the same reason that TriSec mentioned, just glad that Huckabee lost!! He'll do well in SC also I believe.



As for me, I sucked at my job interview yesterday. They asked my a lot of questions about me, not my skill level of the job. CRAP!! We'll see.

Comment by shelaghc on 01/09/2008 14:34:46
g'mornin'

I have to clean the apartment for a guest today - while I'm still in the middle of packing up the apartment so I'll only be around occasionally.



bleaugh.....

How's everyone else?



Comment by starling310 on 01/09/2008 14:35:26
Hola Bloga.



Who's this dude on with Momma and the Mooks?

Is Jim out again?

Comment by BobR on 01/09/2008 14:37:05
Quote by m-hadley: It's fun in here - did you all hear my call-in to the SMS this morning? As I've said over and over I worry that Hillary is just NOT going to win a national contest, plus I had to tell Momma that she is not alone in her Obama corner.


Missed it - I am dialed into work downloading some files, and my media stream doesn't work so well that way...

Comment by TriSec on 01/09/2008 14:38:08
Listening to TRMS this am...Paul Rieckhoff will be aboard in a bit as a pundit, instead of an Ask a Vet segment...Paul and Rachel both are "Iraq Voters", where the war is priority #1.



Me too, but the domestic financial crisis would have to be #2, I think.





Comment by BobR on 01/09/2008 14:38:50
Quote by velveeta jones: Morning all! (Or should that be: mourning all). And welcome to m-hadley.



Unhappy with the Hillary win, but rather happy about McCain, for the same reason that TriSec mentioned, just glad that Huckabee lost!! He'll do well in SC also I believe.



As for me, I sucked at my job interview yesterday. They asked my a lot of questions about me, not my skill level of the job. CRAP!! We'll see.


:hug:



questions like "tell me about yourself"... or "what would you say is your greatest weakness"... ? Those are the worst.



If they were more focused on you personally, perhaps they thought your job skills were beyond reproach?

Comment by BobR on 01/09/2008 14:40:11
Quote by shelaghc: g'mornin'

I have to clean the apartment for a guest today - while I'm still in the middle of packing up the apartment so I'll only be around occasionally.



bleaugh.....

How's everyone else?



I HATE moving... what to keep?... what to give away?... packing all those books...

Comment by BobR on 01/09/2008 14:41:47
Quote by TriSec: Listening to TRMS this am...Paul Rieckhoff will be aboard in a bit as a pundit, instead of an Ask a Vet segment...Paul and Rachel both are "Iraq Voters", where the war is priority #1.



Me too, but the domestic financial crisis would have to be #2, I think.





Yeah, sorta... but I'm not a single issue voter, and we need the guy (or gal) that can work on the myriad problems facing the country, and actually get something done.

Comment by BobR on 01/09/2008 14:42:38
Quote by m-hadley: It's fun in here - did you all hear my call-in to the SMS this morning? As I've said over and over I worry that Hillary is just NOT going to win a national contest, plus I had to tell Momma that she is not alone in her Obama corner.


btw - there's a Help link on the right side of the banner on every page in case you need it...

Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/09/2008 14:46:06
Quote by m-hadley: It's fun in here - did you all hear my call-in to the SMS this morning? As I've said over and over I worry that Hillary is just NOT going to win a national contest, plus I had to tell Momma that she is not alone in her Obama corner.






I did, and I think that the GOP is eager to run against Hillary Clinton, as their strategists have anticipated she would be the candidate. Plus, the Clintons are something that the GOP can hold up as symbols to their base of all that they oppose.





Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/09/2008 14:50:33
Quote by shelaghc: g'mornin'

I have to clean the apartment for a guest today - while I'm still in the middle of packing up the apartment so I'll only be around occasionally.



bleaugh.....

How's everyone else?







My sympathies, as we had a little flooding yesterday. (Nothing too bad, but trying to figure out if there is something that needs to be fixed may be a nuisance. I just hope that I don't have to tear up some dry wall.)





I am okay.

Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 14:53:35
Good morning... :coffee:

Comment by starling310 on 01/09/2008 14:53:37
OMG...I should learn not to talk about politics at work. Talking about the Bankruptcy bill. . . : cube neighbor : "Well, filing bankruptcy was too easy anyway. People go out and buy beamers and then don't want to pay for it."







Ugh. Whatever.



Comment by TriSec on 01/09/2008 14:53:58
The thing about Hillary, is her intrinsic divisiveness.



Either she's the greatest thing sliced bread, or she's the antichrist; there doesn't seem to be any middle ground.



Even for us Dems....somebody else that you're not sure about, you can have a discussion, do the research, listen and make up your mind. I'm not seeing that with Hillary.



Of course the GOP wants her to run; as it's been said before, if she loses, they've defeated the Clintons again and all is well in their world, if she wins, she's "Republican Lite" and not much is going to change.



Our own Raine conveyed a quote from the Randi Rhodes show a few days back..."How can she be for change when she's literally married to the past?"





Comment by starling310 on 01/09/2008 14:55:29
My boss just experessed his hatred for Edwards. Well, that reaffirms my reasons for voting for him. . . my boss is rich. No wonder he hates him.



Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 14:55:41
Welcome aboard MHadley!



OOfda I hate that hillary laugh!

Comment by TriSec on 01/09/2008 14:55:47
Quote by starling310: OMG...I should learn not to talk about politics at work. Talking about the Bankruptcy bill. . . : cube neighbor : "Well, filing bankruptcy was too easy anyway. People go out and buy beamers and then don't want to pay for it."







Ugh. Whatever.





Yeah, sure, OK.



Lemme tell them about the day I got laid off and was walking home from the train station wondering if I could feed my family that weekend. Or pay the rent the next week. Or keep the lights and the heat on...















Comment by TriSec on 01/09/2008 14:57:11
Oh, and regarding the stupidity of the average American voter...



This was reported to me by a friend in Cambridge, MA:



As an aside – I am constantly amazed at how stupid people are… Basic American politics eludes them. My coworker asked me what the primaries are all about! Does Mass. have one? When will we know when it is?



Scary…





Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 14:57:22
Quote by starling310: OMG...I should learn not to talk about politics at work. Talking about the Bankruptcy bill. . . : cube neighbor : "Well, filing bankruptcy was too easy anyway. People go out and buy beamers and then don't want to pay for it."







Ugh. Whatever.



oy! So I guess havig catastrophic medical bills mean they just are too laxy to pay bills too? Gah.

Comment by livingonli on 01/09/2008 14:59:00
Good morning all.



Staggers out of bed.



Raine, check out the first segment of last night's Daily Show on Comedy Central. There was some good stuff even when it's ad-libbed.

Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 15:00:52
I ma still deciding as to whether or not I can in good conscience watch the daily show... :(

Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 15:01:58
being that I just got up, can someone tell me how momma is handling the obama wave not being as grand as she thought?

Comment by livingonli on 01/09/2008 15:04:39
I got up a little light. She seems to be OK, but Jim called in even though sick and talked about New Hampshire's Diebold machines and noted that only the numbers between Hillary and Obama were different than what was projected.



Welcome aboard m-hadley.

Comment by starling310 on 01/09/2008 15:07:23
Quote by TriSec:
Quote by starling310: OMG...I should learn not to talk about politics at work. Talking about the Bankruptcy bill. . . : cube neighbor : "Well, filing bankruptcy was too easy anyway. People go out and buy beamers and then don't want to pay for it."







Ugh. Whatever.





Yeah, sure, OK.



Lemme tell them about the day I got laid off and was walking home from the train station wondering if I could feed my family that weekend. Or pay the rent the next week. Or keep the lights and the heat on...

















Her argument is that you would be the SMALL MINORITY of people filing for bankruptcy. And, this woman is a Democrat....voting for....say it with me. Barack Obama.

Oi!





Comment by starling310 on 01/09/2008 15:07:47
Quote by Raine: I ma still deciding as to whether or not I can in good conscience watch the daily show... :(




Oh me too. I watched it Monday and felt dirty.



Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 15:08:25
So jim called in questioning the machines in New Hampshire???

Comment by livingonli on 01/09/2008 15:10:13
Someone else described my getting up late as a Cheesecake Factory/NH Primary hangover. And me and my friends only drank sodas last night.

Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 15:10:13
Quote by starling310:
Quote by TriSec:
Quote by starling310: OMG...I should learn not to talk about politics at work. Talking about the Bankruptcy bill. . . : cube neighbor : "Well, filing bankruptcy was too easy anyway. People go out and buy beamers and then don't want to pay for it."







Ugh. Whatever.





Yeah, sure, OK.



Lemme tell them about the day I got laid off and was walking home from the train station wondering if I could feed my family that weekend. Or pay the rent the next week. Or keep the lights and the heat on...

















Her argument is that you would be the SMALL MINORITY of people filing for bankruptcy. And, this woman is a Democrat....voting for....say it with me. Barack Obama.

Oi!



Where does she gets the basis for her arguments? Whenever someone pulls shite like that out of thier arse, I ask for proof...



Comment by wickedpam on 01/09/2008 15:10:14
Morning! :hug:





Wo ist Jim heute Morgen? Bewegt sich vorsichtig Komplikationen?







Comment by livingonli on 01/09/2008 15:10:51
Quote by Raine: So jim called in questioning the machines in New Hampshire???


Yep.

Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 15:11:23
:thud: a taser and mp3 player... this is so wrong.

Comment by shelaghc on 01/09/2008 15:11:53
Quote by Raine: I ma still deciding as to whether or not I can in good conscience watch the daily show... :(




I don't technically watch because I don't get cable. I have a clandestine resource. *g*

Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 15:12:55
Quote by shelaghc:
Quote by Raine: I ma still deciding as to whether or not I can in good conscience watch the daily show... :(




I don't technically watch because I don't get cable. I have a clandestine resource. *g*
ShelaghC.... international woman of mystery! :P



Comment by velveeta jones on 01/09/2008 15:13:54
Quote by Raine: I ma still deciding as to whether or not I can in good conscience watch the daily show... :(


Same here. I do wish that they would settle this strike, I am concerned about the Oscars and even more so........the Tony's, though they are not until mid June.

Comment by starling310 on 01/09/2008 15:16:11
Quote by Raine:

Where does she gets the basis for her arguments? Whenever someone pulls shite like that out of thier arse, I ask for proof...





There was no source for that information. And, I gave up because I was getting angry.



Here's another involuntary emotional response. I literally turn red when I am angry. I could feel it!



Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 15:16:34
Chris matthews was back on the air agan this morning? jeez, he is likr the wolf blitzer of MSNBC.





Comment by BobR on 01/09/2008 15:17:52
Quote by wickedpam: Morning! :hug:





Wo ist Jim heute Morgen? Bewegt sich vorsichtig Komplikationen?







Er ist kranke

Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 15:18:09
:rollseyes: I cannot stand this weepy speech

Comment by livingonli on 01/09/2008 15:18:28
Quote by Raine: a taser and mp3 player... this is so wrong.


I'm sure someone will get it to play "Don't tase me, bro".



Who is going to buy this?

Comment by BobR on 01/09/2008 15:19:41
Quote by velveeta jones:

Same here. I do wish that they would settle this strike, I am concerned about the Oscars and even more so........the Tony's, though they are not until mid June.


The Tonys?... they are so gay... :spank:



: skates off to penalty box :

Comment by wickedpam on 01/09/2008 15:19:44
Quote by BobR:
Quote by wickedpam: Morning! :hug:





Wo ist Jim heute Morgen? Bewegt sich vorsichtig Komplikationen?







Er ist kranke




Aw! Hofft, dass er besser fühlt.



Comment by starling310 on 01/09/2008 15:19:53
I just don't think you can claim a "Hypothetical Vote" as a positive on your recordd.

Comment by TriSec on 01/09/2008 15:20:14
Don't know for sure how accurate this is, or if it represents the entire state or just parts of it...



NH apparently voted on paper



When New Hampshire voters go to the polls today, they will use paper ballots, not the computerized voting machines that have come under scrutiny because of their alleged vulnerabilities to hacking and glitches.



And here are samples of the Democratic ballot and the Republican ballot.



Reading through the sample ballots, Sen. Barack Obama doesn't have the most unusual name. That would go to "Vermin Supreme" a street theater artist who's on the Republican ballot.



Then there's a candidate some might confuse with the Illinois senator, considering all the hope and expectations being placed on the Chicagoan. That would be O. Savior on the Democratic ballot.




Comment by livingonli on 01/09/2008 15:22:01
Quote by Raine: Chris matthews was back on the air agan this morning? jeez, he is likr the wolf blitzer of MSNBC.





Just less constipated. No hard cheese and drywall for him.



"Chicks dig it, Ha!"



Were there any good Rachel smacking down Tweety moments last night that I may have missed.

Comment by wickedpam on 01/09/2008 15:23:20
Quote by velveeta jones:
Quote by Raine: I ma still deciding as to whether or not I can in good conscience watch the daily show... :(


Same here. I do wish that they would settle this strike, I am concerned about the Oscars and even more so........the Tony's, though they are not until mid June.






I love the Tony's! At least there you get a show!



I've been completely bored with the Oscars for the last few years, same with the Golden Globes.



LOST starts at the end of the month (31st - mark your calenders LOSTies), Jericho starts in Feb I think, Startgate Atlantis as a few new epis still and so does a few other shows. I just want my Heroes and Pushing Daisy's back, and for the latter show if you have not seen it totally check it out!