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It's the Economy, Stupid!
Author: BobR
Date: 01/11/2008 13:17:45
I know it's Friday, and I know we all want happy fun time, and for a lot of people it's payday, but for a lot of people... it's not anymore. Most of you have already heard that the jobless rate rose to the 5% mark last month. According to Merrill-Lynch (not exactly a bastion of liberal thought), that was the final straw. They have finally declared that Yes, we are in a recession:
Along with the jobless rate, the sales of existing homes fell as well:
Of course, these are the big stories. There are thousands of smaller stories all across the country, although they're always big to those in the middle of it. One that's big in Atlanta is finally getting some press nationwide. Grady Hospital, which is a teaching hospital, provides indigent care, and has the best trauma center in the state, is perilously close to closing it's doors:
It seems some real leadership is required to handle this mess. But wait!! Our pResident is on the job, and his big plan is to... ummm... say it's not that bad, and keep taxes low:
Those income tax cuts sure are a boon to the unemployed! :rolleyes2:
The face of an honest man that knows what he's doing:
... or not.
Actually, it may take some pressure from his rich buddies - and that might finally occur, since they are feeling the pinch too.
Or both he and Cheney could just resign and let the adults take over. :pray:
Hey - it's Friday, ya bastahds! A guy can dream, right?
The feared recession in the US economy has already arrived, according to a report from Merrill Lynch.
It said that Friday's employment report, which sent shares tumbling worldwide, confirmed that the US is in the first month of a recession.
....
Merrill Lynch said that the figures showing the jobless rate hitting 5% in December were the final piece in that puzzle.
"According to our analysis, this isn't even a forecast any more but is a present day reality," the report said.
Along with the jobless rate, the sales of existing homes fell as well:
Jan. 8 (Bloomberg) -- The number of Americans signing contracts to buy previously owned homes fell more than forecast in November, signaling further deterioration in housing.
The National Association of Realtors' index of pending home sales decreased 2.6 percent to 87.6, following a 3.7 percent gain in October that was larger than previously estimated, the group said today in Washington.
The figures underscore Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson's forecast that the housing recession will continue, posing the biggest risk to economic expansion. Economists said more stringent lending practices following the collapse in subprime mortgages and prospects that home prices will keep falling are deterring buyers.
Of course, these are the big stories. There are thousands of smaller stories all across the country, although they're always big to those in the middle of it. One that's big in Atlanta is finally getting some press nationwide. Grady Hospital, which is a teaching hospital, provides indigent care, and has the best trauma center in the state, is perilously close to closing it's doors:
Pamela Vaughn is a Grady baby. Like tens of thousands of Atlantans over the last 115 years — like Gladys Knight, the soul singer, and Vernon Jordan Jr., the presidential confidante; like more than one in three babies born here in the last decade — Ms. Vaughn entered the world at Grady Memorial Hospital, one of the nation’s largest safety-net hospitals.
Ms. Vaughn was not only born at Grady, she also works there, as a senior nurse in the diabetes clinic, where many of her patients are Grady babies, too. And now, like thousands of other Atlantans, she is hoping to save the teeming charity hospital that has provided her with both life and livelihood.
To generations of Georgians, this city is unimaginable without Grady. Yet that has been the prospect facing the region for the last year, the result of a multimillion-dollar shortfall in the cost of providing charity and emergency care that no one — not the counties, the state nor the federal government — has been willing to cover, though Grady provides vital services to the entire region.
Once admired for its skill in treating a population afflicted by both social and physical ills, Grady, a teaching hospital, now faces the prospect of losing its accreditation. Only short-term financial transfusions have kept it from closing its doors, as Martin Luther King Jr.-Harbor Hospital in Los Angeles County did last year. That scenario would flood the region’s other hospitals with uninsured patients and eliminate the training ground for one of every four Georgia doctors.
It seems some real leadership is required to handle this mess. But wait!! Our pResident is on the job, and his big plan is to... ummm... say it's not that bad, and keep taxes low:
President George W. Bush said the U.S. economy is sending contradictory signals, and Congress must keep taxes low to avoid creating further economic turmoil.
"Recent economic indicators have become increasingly mixed," Bush said today after lunch with Mayor Richard Daley and city business leaders at the Union League Club of Chicago. "In a time of economic uncertainty, we don't need to be taking money out of your pocket."
Government reports in the past two weeks showed new home sales fell to the lowest in 12 years, job creation slowed and the jobless rate rose to 5 percent in December from 4.7 percent. The reports spurred concern the economy will fall into recession, and U.S. stocks last week had their worst start to a year since 2000.
"When you cut taxes, it means people have more money to save, spend or invest," Bush said. "I will strongly urge that Congress keep taxes low," he said, while pressing Congress to make permanent tax cuts enacted early in his administration.
Those income tax cuts sure are a boon to the unemployed! :rolleyes2:
The face of an honest man that knows what he's doing:
... or not.
Actually, it may take some pressure from his rich buddies - and that might finally occur, since they are feeling the pinch too.
As the credit crisis drags on, not even the world's millionaire investors are immune from its effects, and the private banks that manage their money could be the next to feel the pain.
Rich investors are reducing leverage on their portfolios, depriving wealth managers of a lucrative income stream just as difficult financial markets cast a shadow over their results.
As the credit crisis eats away the value of their assets, millionaires are paying back cash they borrowed for investment purposes to reduce risk, private bankers say. "We've seen leverage vanish completely almost overnight from the beginning of November," said Nicolas Sarkis of Alphaone Partners.
Or both he and Cheney could just resign and let the adults take over. :pray:
Hey - it's Friday, ya bastahds! A guy can dream, right?
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Comment by 
m-hadley on 01/11/2008 13:56:54
m-hadley on 01/11/2008 13:56:54
Dream on, Raine, dream on...I'm like Momma, impeachment talk makes me hot. Let's throw the bastards out. I have a job that I enjoy, but I recently applied for another job and found out yesterday that over 50 other people had applied for the same job. Think I'll stick with the job I've got. Happy Friday everybody!!!
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 01/11/2008 14:00:59
Mondobubba on 01/11/2008 14:00:59
Hello all. :yawn:
Comment by 
starling310 on 01/11/2008 14:05:10
starling310 on 01/11/2008 14:05:10
:yawn:
Nice ( by nice I mean panic attack inducing ) blog opening.
On my homefront, Banc of America buying Countrywide means that BofA now owns my motgage as well, giving them ALL of my debt, save my Student Loan. That, my friends, is a frightening thought. They are getting bigger and stronger and I am sure very soon will be telling little people like me to take it up the tailpipe.
I'll be looking into moving all of that debt to a Credit Union loan.
F*ckin' Frank!
Nice ( by nice I mean panic attack inducing ) blog opening.
On my homefront, Banc of America buying Countrywide means that BofA now owns my motgage as well, giving them ALL of my debt, save my Student Loan. That, my friends, is a frightening thought. They are getting bigger and stronger and I am sure very soon will be telling little people like me to take it up the tailpipe.
I'll be looking into moving all of that debt to a Credit Union loan.
F*ckin' Frank!
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/11/2008 14:08:31
Whaaa? You don't like the convience of the one stop shopping for financial services with Octopus Bank? Wht thats un-American!
Mondobubba on 01/11/2008 14:08:31
Quote by starling310:
Nice ( by nice I mean panic attack inducing ) blog opening.
On my homefront, Banc of America buying Countrywide means that BofA now owns my motgage as well, giving them ALL of my debt, save my Student Loan. That, my friends, is a frightening thought. They are getting bigger and stronger and I am sure very soon will be telling little people like me to take it up the tailpipe.
I'll be looking into moving all of that debt to a Credit Union loan.
F*ckin' Frank!
Whaaa? You don't like the convience of the one stop shopping for financial services with Octopus Bank? Wht thats un-American!
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 14:18:05
starling310 on 01/11/2008 14:18:05
Obama/Kerry? Oh my God...It will take them 4 hours to answer a single question.
Obama is great at the stump speech, but his debate answers take just as long as Kerry's.
:yawn:
Obama is great at the stump speech, but his debate answers take just as long as Kerry's.
:yawn:
Comment by 
TriSec on 01/11/2008 14:18:50
TriSec on 01/11/2008 14:18:50
Ah, that's why we're with a neighborhood bank. We left the big boys pretty darn close to 10 years ago and haven't missed the 'convenience' of nickels and dimes being pulled out of our arses for 'services'.
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 14:21:04
Actually, BofA does not charge me fees of any kind. My fear is they will start jacking up all of my interest rates!
starling310 on 01/11/2008 14:21:04
Quote by TriSec: Ah, that's why we're with a neighborhood bank. We left the big boys pretty darn close to 10 years ago and haven't missed the 'convenience' of nickels and dimes being pulled out of our arses for 'services'.
Actually, BofA does not charge me fees of any kind. My fear is they will start jacking up all of my interest rates!
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 14:25:58
starling310 on 01/11/2008 14:25:58
See, that's what I mean. As soon as my RICH/UBER CONSERVATIVE boss said "I hate Edwards. . . we'll see who is running on my side...I might vote for Hillary," I KNEW with absolute certainty that EDWARDS is the right choice "for change."
My boss said, "I know it will be a Democratic President. I just have to figure out which one will hurt me the least." Of course he means "hurt" in the wallet! Funny. . . he'd vote for Hillary, or Obama.
Starling would like to note that, per her story yesterday, she has 2 bosses. My direct boss is female and her boss ( the one who hates Edwards ) is male.
My boss said, "I know it will be a Democratic President. I just have to figure out which one will hurt me the least." Of course he means "hurt" in the wallet! Funny. . . he'd vote for Hillary, or Obama.
Starling would like to note that, per her story yesterday, she has 2 bosses. My direct boss is female and her boss ( the one who hates Edwards ) is male.
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 14:27:48
starling310 on 01/11/2008 14:27:48
No caller. . . I would NOT push that email on. And, I am not for Obama.
Comment by 
Raine on 01/11/2008 14:28:01
Raine on 01/11/2008 14:28:01
ACK! Good morning! I need more coffee..
Comment by TriSec on 01/11/2008 14:28:27
TriSec on 01/11/2008 14:28:27
Oh yeah? I'll see your rich/uber conservative boss and raise you mine.
Whose last name is the same as the President's I might add.
Ah, the irony.
Whose last name is the same as the President's I might add.
Ah, the irony.
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 14:30:25
Raine on 01/11/2008 14:30:25
Today's Blog was written by BobR!! Raine did the one thing that is a no no... I forgot to log off this computer last night.
So it is nice to know BobR made you all Hot MH!
:rofl:
So it is nice to know BobR made you all Hot MH!
:rofl:
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 14:31:02
Ugh...really?
But, yeah, "Sub-Mook" made a good point; it's easy to see who they are afraid of. And, they aren't that afraid of Clinton or Obama. Edwards, on the other scares the pants off of them, because they love their MONEY!
starling310 on 01/11/2008 14:31:02
Quote by TriSec: Oh yeah? I'll see your rich/uber conservative boss and raise you mine.
Whose last name is the same as the President's I might add.
Ah, the irony.
Ugh...really?
But, yeah, "Sub-Mook" made a good point; it's easy to see who they are afraid of. And, they aren't that afraid of Clinton or Obama. Edwards, on the other scares the pants off of them, because they love their MONEY!
Comment by 
livingonli on 01/11/2008 14:37:25
livingonli on 01/11/2008 14:37:25
Good morning all. 
I guess that Nyquil keeps me sleepy.
At least I'm up for Kucinich.
I guess that Nyquil keeps me sleepy.
At least I'm up for Kucinich.
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 14:38:17
: note to M-HADLEY and SHELAGHC :
"F*ckin Frank!" is a catchphrase which began when Starling was condescended by an unsavory, mysoginist named Frank. It comes in handy when expressing frustration. Please use as you see fit. Raine has taken it to it beautifully!
starling310 on 01/11/2008 14:38:17
Quote by Raine: in todays AJC...
F*ckin Frank!
: note to M-HADLEY and SHELAGHC :
"F*ckin Frank!" is a catchphrase which began when Starling was condescended by an unsavory, mysoginist named Frank. It comes in handy when expressing frustration. Please use as you see fit. Raine has taken it to it beautifully!
Comment by m-hadley on 01/11/2008 14:38:24
m-hadley on 01/11/2008 14:38:24
I lurve me some Dennis Kucinich - remind me again, why he doesn't have a chance?
Thanks BobR for my morning hot flash
Thanks BobR for my morning hot flash
Comment by livingonli on 01/11/2008 14:41:44
If 10,000 people are lining up for a single Wal-Mart job, the economy is worse than what the mainstream media tells us.
livingonli on 01/11/2008 14:41:44
Quote by Raine: in todays AJC...
F*ckin Frank!
If 10,000 people are lining up for a single Wal-Mart job, the economy is worse than what the mainstream media tells us.
Comment by 
shelaghc on 01/11/2008 14:42:33
shelaghc on 01/11/2008 14:42:33
G'morning all.
I knew it was a mistake not to create a schedule for today before I went to bed last night.
Now I'm looking around the apartment and don't know what to do. And for some reason, I have trouble following a sked I've created the same day.....
I've been up for an hour already and haven't even had my tea or breakfast.
Maybe I should have chocolate Maypo and boost my blood sugar....
I knew it was a mistake not to create a schedule for today before I went to bed last night.
Now I'm looking around the apartment and don't know what to do. And for some reason, I have trouble following a sked I've created the same day.....
I've been up for an hour already and haven't even had my tea or breakfast.
Maybe I should have chocolate Maypo and boost my blood sugar....
Comment by TriSec on 01/11/2008 14:43:05
TriSec on 01/11/2008 14:43:05
Speaking of money, did we all notice that Congress just gave themselves a $4000 pay raise?
Comment by TriSec on 01/11/2008 14:44:51
Wow, for $10.56 an hour at that...
Why the hell haven't we stormed the White House and Congress again?
TriSec on 01/11/2008 14:44:51
Quote by Raine: in todays AJC...
F*ckin Frank!
Wow, for $10.56 an hour at that...
Why the hell haven't we stormed the White House and Congress again?
Comment by livingonli on 01/11/2008 14:46:28
Gee, why wasn't that in the news?
livingonli on 01/11/2008 14:46:28
Quote by TriSec: Speaking of money, did we all notice that Congress just gave themselves a $4000 pay raise?
Gee, why wasn't that in the news?
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 14:46:43
ShelaghC's sked for 1/11/08:
1. Turn on Stephanie Miller
2. Make tea.
3. Eat breakfast.
4. Take nap.
Mmmm....I got nothin' after that.
starling310 on 01/11/2008 14:46:43
Quote by shelaghc: G'morning all.
I knew it was a mistake not to create a schedule for today before I went to bed last night.
Now I'm looking around the apartment and don't know what to do. And for some reason, I have trouble following a sked I've created the same day.....
I've been up for an hour already and haven't even had my tea or breakfast.
Maybe I should have chocolate Maypo and boost my blood sugar....
ShelaghC's sked for 1/11/08:
1. Turn on Stephanie Miller
2. Make tea.
3. Eat breakfast.
4. Take nap.
Mmmm....I got nothin' after that.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/11/2008 14:46:59
shelaghc on 01/11/2008 14:46:59
Are there any people in the medical profession on the blog?
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 14:48:59
starling310 on 01/11/2008 14:48:59
Today is Poppa 's birthday!!!
's birthday!!!
Comment by 
BobR on 01/11/2008 14:49:04
BobR on 01/11/2008 14:49:04
morning, folks... :coffee:
I fixed the blog author value so credit is given where due... :P
I fixed the blog author value so credit is given where due... :P
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 14:49:43
I have to give my cat heart medication every day. Does that count?
starling310 on 01/11/2008 14:49:43
Quote by shelaghc: Are there any people in the medical profession on the blog?
I have to give my cat heart medication every day. Does that count?
Comment by shelaghc on 01/11/2008 14:52:52
No no! No naps! I hate naps - they're time stealers.
I have to clean up the livingroom, and figure out what else needs to be packed.
Then later today I have to start ripping covers off video cases, call the mechanic who was supposed to get back to me about a part for my car and list the last of the vids on yahoo groups for sale.
bleaugh.....
I need to make a schedule so I don't miss anything important today.
shelaghc on 01/11/2008 14:52:52
Quote by starling310:Quote by shelaghc: G'morning all.
I knew it was a mistake not to create a schedule for today before I went to bed last night.
Now I'm looking around the apartment and don't know what to do. And for some reason, I have trouble following a sked I've created the same day.....
I've been up for an hour already and haven't even had my tea or breakfast.
Maybe I should have chocolate Maypo and boost my blood sugar....
ShelaghC's sked for 1/11/08:
1. Turn on Stephanie Miller
2. Make tea.
3. Eat breakfast.
4. Take nap.
Mmmm....I got nothin' after that.
No no! No naps! I hate naps - they're time stealers.
I have to clean up the livingroom, and figure out what else needs to be packed.
Then later today I have to start ripping covers off video cases, call the mechanic who was supposed to get back to me about a part for my car and list the last of the vids on yahoo groups for sale.
bleaugh.....
I need to make a schedule so I don't miss anything important today.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/11/2008 14:54:02
I wondered about that "guy can dream" thing under Raine's by-line.
shelaghc on 01/11/2008 14:54:02
Quote by BobR: morning, folks... :coffee:
I fixed the blog author value so credit is given where due... :P
I wondered about that "guy can dream" thing under Raine's by-line.
Comment by livingonli on 01/11/2008 14:55:24
livingonli on 01/11/2008 14:55:24
I like naps. 
Comment by shelaghc on 01/11/2008 14:56:07
shelaghc on 01/11/2008 14:56:07
I need to find someone who knows medical stuff to read this:
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7009673827
and tell me how I can get my mother in on this. She's got Alzheimer's but isn't so far gone that she's incapacitated. She can't live alone and her memory is *really* bad, but she's not completely gone from us.
I want to get this for her and see if it helps.
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7009673827
and tell me how I can get my mother in on this. She's got Alzheimer's but isn't so far gone that she's incapacitated. She can't live alone and her memory is *really* bad, but she's not completely gone from us.
I want to get this for her and see if it helps.
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 14:56:59
Raine on 01/11/2008 14:56:59
Uhm... bush didn't know??? OMG< OReilly just gets better and better.
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 14:57:31
Raine on 01/11/2008 14:57:31
When I went to get my photo ID, I told them I was Chris LaVoie. :P
Comment by livingonli on 01/11/2008 14:58:58
livingonli on 01/11/2008 14:58:58
Sounds like he's melding the Fox News and Glenn Beck promos.
"I'm a thinker." :puke:
Nah, you're a right-wing tool.
"I'm a thinker." :puke:
Nah, you're a right-wing tool.
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 14:59:53
Who is her (tri may be able to correct me on this) health care proxy? Perhaps they could take to her primary care Doctor and see what can be done. I hope that Some is signed of as her proxy provider at this point.
Raine on 01/11/2008 14:59:53
Quote by shelaghc: I need to find someone who knows medical stuff to read this:
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7009673827
and tell me how I can get my mother in on this. She's got Alzheimer's but isn't so far gone that she's incapacitated. She can't live alone and her memory is *really* bad, but she's not completely gone from us.
I want to get this for her and see if it helps.
Who is her (tri may be able to correct me on this) health care proxy? Perhaps they could take to her primary care Doctor and see what can be done. I hope that Some is signed of as her proxy provider at this point.
Comment by livingonli on 01/11/2008 15:00:33
:rofl:
livingonli on 01/11/2008 15:00:33
Quote by Raine: When I went to get my photo ID, I told them I was Chris LaVoie. :P
:rofl:
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 15:04:30
hey! you alright?
Raine on 01/11/2008 15:04:30
Quote by Mondobubba: Hello all. :yawn:
hey! you alright?
Comment by TriSec on 01/11/2008 15:07:24
I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV.
Seriously though...I'm a former EMT-MAST and currently work in the 'back office' area, overseeing claims transactions and billing for national payors and clients in 42 states...
TriSec on 01/11/2008 15:07:24
Quote by shelaghc: Are there any people in the medical profession on the blog?
I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV.
Seriously though...I'm a former EMT-MAST and currently work in the 'back office' area, overseeing claims transactions and billing for national payors and clients in 42 states...
Comment by TriSec on 01/11/2008 15:11:16
TriSec on 01/11/2008 15:11:16
Yeah, just saw below. What Raine said...direct contact with her PCP and asking specifically about the drug in question should start the wheels turning.
And about the Health Care Proxy, as she declines, someone needs to be the designated decision-maker for any and all future care, so check that out if you haven't signed anything about it yet.
And about the Health Care Proxy, as she declines, someone needs to be the designated decision-maker for any and all future care, so check that out if you haven't signed anything about it yet.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 01/11/2008 15:13:15
wickedpam on 01/11/2008 15:13:15
Morning! :hug:
Comment by livingonli on 01/11/2008 15:18:32
livingonli on 01/11/2008 15:18:32
So Bush's goal is to be a motivational speaker? Another job he sucks at.
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 15:20:15
starling310 on 01/11/2008 15:20:15
I know you guys have hated each other for 4 million years or so, but kiss and make up by the end of my pres - - - this year.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/11/2008 15:22:26
My rather estranged sister has her POA. If I bring it up with her she'll be skeptical that it's another of my pie in the sky ideas. Mom's doctors are pretty much old-fashioned farts who don't want to try anything that's not in their regular lexicon.
shelaghc on 01/11/2008 15:22:26
Quote by Raine:Quote by shelaghc: I need to find someone who knows medical stuff to read this:
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7009673827
and tell me how I can get my mother in on this. She's got Alzheimer's but isn't so far gone that she's incapacitated. She can't live alone and her memory is *really* bad, but she's not completely gone from us.
I want to get this for her and see if it helps.
Who is her (tri may be able to correct me on this) health care proxy? Perhaps they could take to her primary care Doctor and see what can be done. I hope that Some is signed of as her proxy provider at this point.
My rather estranged sister has her POA. If I bring it up with her she'll be skeptical that it's another of my pie in the sky ideas. Mom's doctors are pretty much old-fashioned farts who don't want to try anything that's not in their regular lexicon.
Comment by livingonli on 01/11/2008 15:23:54
If he thinks that's gonna salvage his presidency, think again. Not that chimpy is known for his ability to think.
livingonli on 01/11/2008 15:23:54
Quote by starling310: I know you guys have hated each other for 4 million years or so, but kiss and make up by the end of my pres - - - this year.
If he thinks that's gonna salvage his presidency, think again. Not that chimpy is known for his ability to think.
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 15:25:41
That's the wonderful world of Western medicine.
starling310 on 01/11/2008 15:25:41
Quote by shelaghc:
My rather estranged sister has her POA. If I bring it up with her she'll be skeptical that it's another of my pie in the sky ideas. Mom's doctors are pretty much old-fashioned farts who don't want to try anything that's not in their regular lexicon.
That's the wonderful world of Western medicine.
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 15:27:02
starling310 on 01/11/2008 15:27:02
Huckabee is likable??? Ugh....
Comment by wickedpam on 01/11/2008 15:28:26
wickedpam on 01/11/2008 15:28:26
I thought government officals were not allowed to accpect gifts?
Comment by TriSec on 01/11/2008 15:28:42
Power of Attorney and Healthcare Proxy are two different things....
Sounds like you'll have to get vocal; see if you can pull any more info from the FDA website or the manufacturer about said drug and try to make a case.
(thankx, BTW....Mrs. TriSec's papa was diagnosed last year...he's still mild, but if anything will help, let's go for it!)
TriSec on 01/11/2008 15:28:42
Quote by shelaghc:Quote by Raine:Quote by shelaghc: I need to find someone who knows medical stuff to read this:
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7009673827
and tell me how I can get my mother in on this. She's got Alzheimer's but isn't so far gone that she's incapacitated. She can't live alone and her memory is *really* bad, but she's not completely gone from us.
I want to get this for her and see if it helps.
Who is her (tri may be able to correct me on this) health care proxy? Perhaps they could take to her primary care Doctor and see what can be done. I hope that Some is signed of as her proxy provider at this point.
My rather estranged sister has her POA. If I bring it up with her she'll be skeptical that it's another of my pie in the sky ideas. Mom's doctors are pretty much old-fashioned farts who don't want to try anything that's not in their regular lexicon.
Power of Attorney and Healthcare Proxy are two different things....
Sounds like you'll have to get vocal; see if you can pull any more info from the FDA website or the manufacturer about said drug and try to make a case.
(thankx, BTW....Mrs. TriSec's papa was diagnosed last year...he's still mild, but if anything will help, let's go for it!)
Comment by TriSec on 01/11/2008 15:30:45
Sure, in the same way that America wanted to have a beer with Bush last time around...
I have heard him in some non-political situations, Huck is a pretty affable guy, but that doesn't mean he'd be a good president.
TriSec on 01/11/2008 15:30:45
Quote by starling310: Huckabee is likable??? Ugh....
Sure, in the same way that America wanted to have a beer with Bush last time around...
I have heard him in some non-political situations, Huck is a pretty affable guy, but that doesn't mean he'd be a good president.
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 15:33:04
Send hr the link to this article. It really cannot hurt. Oh man these situations are always so rough to deal with.
Raine on 01/11/2008 15:33:04
Quote by shelaghc:Quote by Raine:Quote by shelaghc: I need to find someone who knows medical stuff to read this:
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7009673827
and tell me how I can get my mother in on this. She's got Alzheimer's but isn't so far gone that she's incapacitated. She can't live alone and her memory is *really* bad, but she's not completely gone from us.
I want to get this for her and see if it helps.
Who is her (tri may be able to correct me on this) health care proxy? Perhaps they could take to her primary care Doctor and see what can be done. I hope that Some is signed of as her proxy provider at this point.
My rather estranged sister has her POA. If I bring it up with her she'll be skeptical that it's another of my pie in the sky ideas. Mom's doctors are pretty much old-fashioned farts who don't want to try anything that's not in their regular lexicon.
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 15:33:57
starling310 on 01/11/2008 15:33:57
I adore KT Tunstall! :wub2:
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 15:38:17
Raine on 01/11/2008 15:38:17
I love that Ad! Rudy in espanol!!!
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 15:41:53
:rofl:
Raine on 01/11/2008 15:41:53
:rofl:
Comment by shelaghc on 01/11/2008 15:44:20
I'm thinking of bringing both my brother and cousin in on this. Since neither of them have the protracted contact with my sister, she's much more chummy with them. At the very least, I might see if our cousin would be willing to bring it up either in casual conversation or actually call my sister and tell her that when she read about this breakthrough she immediately wanted to let my sister know about it.
It's underhanded, but if it gets the job done, I'll take any method.
My sister is pretty savvy - one of the reasons I felt it would be better for her to have financial and medical control for Mom. I'm really not emotionally equipped to handle such things. And I can't figure out my own finances so my sister really is the better steward there too.
Good luck with your FIL - I hope it helps!
shelaghc on 01/11/2008 15:44:20
Send hr the link to this article. It really cannot hurt. Oh man these situations are always so rough to deal with.
I'm thinking of bringing both my brother and cousin in on this. Since neither of them have the protracted contact with my sister, she's much more chummy with them. At the very least, I might see if our cousin would be willing to bring it up either in casual conversation or actually call my sister and tell her that when she read about this breakthrough she immediately wanted to let my sister know about it.
It's underhanded, but if it gets the job done, I'll take any method.
Power of Attorney and Healthcare Proxy are two different things....
Sounds like you'll have to get vocal; see if you can pull any more info from the FDA website or the manufacturer about said drug and try to make a case.
(thankx, BTW....Mrs. TriSec's papa was diagnosed last year...he's still mild, but if anything will help, let's go for it!)
My sister is pretty savvy - one of the reasons I felt it would be better for her to have financial and medical control for Mom. I'm really not emotionally equipped to handle such things. And I can't figure out my own finances so my sister really is the better steward there too.
Good luck with your FIL - I hope it helps!
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 15:46:05
Raine on 01/11/2008 15:46:05
Quote by Raine:
:rofl:
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 15:47:26
That sounds like a good idea.. I do not think it is underhanded at all, it sounds smart.
Raine on 01/11/2008 15:47:26
Quote by shelaghc:Send hr the link to this article. It really cannot hurt. Oh man these situations are always so rough to deal with.
I'm thinking of bringing both my brother and cousin in on this. Since neither of them have the protracted contact with my sister, she's much more chummy with them. At the very least, I might see if our cousin would be willing to bring it up either in casual conversation or actually call my sister and tell her that when she read about this breakthrough she immediately wanted to let my sister know about it.
It's underhanded, but if it gets the job done, I'll take any method.Power of Attorney and Healthcare Proxy are two different things....
Sounds like you'll have to get vocal; see if you can pull any more info from the FDA website or the manufacturer about said drug and try to make a case.
(thankx, BTW....Mrs. TriSec's papa was diagnosed last year...he's still mild, but if anything will help, let's go for it!)
My sister is pretty savvy - one of the reasons I felt it would be better for her to have financial and medical control for Mom. I'm really not emotionally equipped to handle such things. And I can't figure out my own finances so my sister really is the better steward there too.
Good luck with your FIL - I hope it helps!
That sounds like a good idea.. I do not think it is underhanded at all, it sounds smart.
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 15:49:37
Raine on 01/11/2008 15:49:37
I would like to find that on the web.
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 15:55:14
starling310 on 01/11/2008 15:55:14
That was "2 a.m., 5 drink minimum" applause.
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 15:56:20
Raine on 01/11/2008 15:56:20
Here is the link That the show was looking for, regarding the disparities.
Can someone send that along with love from FourFreedomsBlog??? ;)
Can someone send that along with love from FourFreedomsBlog??? ;)
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 15:56:57
starling310 on 01/11/2008 15:56:57
How can people like Chuckabee?
Comment by shelaghc on 01/11/2008 16:00:12
shelaghc on 01/11/2008 16:00:12
Is anyone else creeped out by that breastfeeding commercial?
Comment by livingonli on 01/11/2008 16:01:44
Maybe someone should send this ad to the guy who owns that Philly Cheese Steak place, maybe he'll change his endorsment to Duncan Hunter.
livingonli on 01/11/2008 16:01:44
Quote by Raine:
:rofl:
Maybe someone should send this ad to the guy who owns that Philly Cheese Steak place, maybe he'll change his endorsment to Duncan Hunter.
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 16:02:04
another reason I like the NovaM link... those psa's creep me out.
Raine on 01/11/2008 16:02:04
Quote by shelaghc: Is anyone else creeped out by that breastfeeding commercial?
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 16:02:26
starling310 on 01/11/2008 16:02:26
Re: Marion Jones. . .
I just don't think people should to PRISON for Steroid use.
I just don't think people should to PRISON for Steroid use.
Comment by livingonli on 01/11/2008 16:03:19
The Barry White one is creepy, but the country music version (which thankfully hasn't been played in a while) is even worse and more hick-y.
livingonli on 01/11/2008 16:03:19
Quote by shelaghc: Is anyone else creeped out by that breastfeeding commercial?
The Barry White one is creepy, but the country music version (which thankfully hasn't been played in a while) is even worse and more hick-y.
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 16:07:51
Raine on 01/11/2008 16:07:51
LOL!!!
Comment by wickedpam on 01/11/2008 16:14:56
wickedpam on 01/11/2008 16:14:56
Oh! A Steph listener in my work vincinity!
Comment by BobR on 01/11/2008 16:15:20
BobR on 01/11/2008 16:15:20
The Hillary chicken dance is not so good - sorry mama...
It would be better if you used "Attack" "Iraq" "ACK" instead...
It would be better if you used "Attack" "Iraq" "ACK" instead...
Comment by shelaghc on 01/11/2008 16:15:37
shelaghc on 01/11/2008 16:15:37
I've never heard the country music version thankfully.
There's just something about a deep-voiced guy telling a woman to breastfeed that sounds so very very wrong.
Who the hell thought that would be a good idea?
There's just something about a deep-voiced guy telling a woman to breastfeed that sounds so very very wrong.
Who the hell thought that would be a good idea?
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 16:16:30
The same ones who came up with the RUM psa?
Raine on 01/11/2008 16:16:30
Quote by shelaghc: I've never heard the country music version thankfully.
There's just something about a deep-voiced guy telling a woman to breastfeed that sounds so very very wrong.
Who the hell thought that would be a good idea?
The same ones who came up with the RUM psa?
Comment by wickedpam on 01/11/2008 16:18:09
wickedpam on 01/11/2008 16:18:09
Is Steph a cougar?
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 16:18:59
Raine on 01/11/2008 16:18:59
looky at what I found!
Comment by livingonli on 01/11/2008 16:20:09
Why would I rather see the Indian from the old littering/pollution PSA's in the 70's?
livingonli on 01/11/2008 16:20:09
Quote by Raine:
Bush ends ME peace mission with nothing... excpet tears...
Why would I rather see the Indian from the old littering/pollution PSA's in the 70's?
Comment by wickedpam on 01/11/2008 16:25:58
wickedpam on 01/11/2008 16:25:58
Who need that when I have 
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 16:26:04
Star wars PSA... :rofl:
Raine on 01/11/2008 16:26:04
Star wars PSA... :rofl:
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 16:30:41
Raine on 01/11/2008 16:30:41
Comment by BobR on 01/11/2008 16:31:02
My favorite!
BobR on 01/11/2008 16:31:02
Quote by wickedpam: Who need that when I have
My favorite!
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/11/2008 16:32:28
Mondobubba on 01/11/2008 16:32:28
oi back from the doctor and the FLAven! :thud:. I've got a sports injury! 
Given my well know propensity for riding the couch, have the strained muscle in my shoulder is welcome change from the norm. I've been shot up with some lidocaine just like Roger Clemons. :snicker:
Given my well know propensity for riding the couch, have the strained muscle in my shoulder is welcome change from the norm. I've been shot up with some lidocaine just like Roger Clemons. :snicker:
Comment by wickedpam on 01/11/2008 16:35:48
One of mine too. Also Pommery, Taittinger, Krug and Cristalino (which is technically a Cava but really good.)
wickedpam on 01/11/2008 16:35:48
Quote by BobR:Quote by wickedpam: Who need that when I have
My favorite!
One of mine too. Also Pommery, Taittinger, Krug and Cristalino (which is technically a Cava but really good.)
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/11/2008 16:37:03
:scans: Speaking from personal experience, get the health care proxy. A power of attorney can only do so much. Even if it medical POA. Waiving the proxy a couple of times saved Mrs Mondo from so really awful stuff that wasn't really needed.
Mondobubba on 01/11/2008 16:37:03
Quote by shelaghc:Send hr the link to this article. It really cannot hurt. Oh man these situations are always so rough to deal with.
I'm thinking of bringing both my brother and cousin in on this. Since neither of them have the protracted contact with my sister, she's much more chummy with them. At the very least, I might see if our cousin would be willing to bring it up either in casual conversation or actually call my sister and tell her that when she read about this breakthrough she immediately wanted to let my sister know about it.
It's underhanded, but if it gets the job done, I'll take any method.Power of Attorney and Healthcare Proxy are two different things....
Sounds like you'll have to get vocal; see if you can pull any more info from the FDA website or the manufacturer about said drug and try to make a case.
(thankx, BTW....Mrs. TriSec's papa was diagnosed last year...he's still mild, but if anything will help, let's go for it!)
My sister is pretty savvy - one of the reasons I felt it would be better for her to have financial and medical control for Mom. I'm really not emotionally equipped to handle such things. And I can't figure out my own finances so my sister really is the better steward there too.
Good luck with your FIL - I hope it helps!
:scans: Speaking from personal experience, get the health care proxy. A power of attorney can only do so much. Even if it medical POA. Waiving the proxy a couple of times saved Mrs Mondo from so really awful stuff that wasn't really needed.
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 16:37:07
Raine on 01/11/2008 16:37:07
Tweety always has him arms crossed when he has to share the set with KO.
Comment by livingonli on 01/11/2008 16:38:47
I'm surprised he doesn't just start pounding the table and crying to get attention.
livingonli on 01/11/2008 16:38:47
Quote by Raine: Tweety always has him arms crossed when he has to share the set with KO.
I'm surprised he doesn't just start pounding the table and crying to get attention.
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 16:41:08
Raine on 01/11/2008 16:41:08
Comment by shelaghc on 01/11/2008 16:41:39
How would I get such a proxy? Since Mom will be spending many weekends with me after I move back to the 'burgh, it would be a logical thing for me to ask for.
shelaghc on 01/11/2008 16:41:39
Quote by Mondobubba:
:scans: Speaking from personal experience, get the health care proxy. A power of attorney can only do so much. Even if it medical POA. Waiving the proxy a couple of times saved Mrs Mondo from so really awful stuff that wasn't really needed.
How would I get such a proxy? Since Mom will be spending many weekends with me after I move back to the 'burgh, it would be a logical thing for me to ask for.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/11/2008 16:43:33
I know someone who actually knew him. I got the feeling from her blog entry that he's been dealing with personal demons for a long time.
shelaghc on 01/11/2008 16:43:33
Quote by Raine: Ice slkating Shamp, Christopher bowman passed away.
I know someone who actually knew him. I got the feeling from her blog entry that he's been dealing with personal demons for a long time.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/11/2008 16:43:54
Well legal aide did the one I had for Mrs Mondo, I'm sure you can get it done from a lawyer for pretty cheap. It is some standard boiler plate stuff. Lemme check with my go to person for lawyer stuff.
Mondobubba on 01/11/2008 16:43:54
Quote by shelaghc:Quote by Mondobubba:
:scans: Speaking from personal experience, get the health care proxy. A power of attorney can only do so much. Even if it medical POA. Waiving the proxy a couple of times saved Mrs Mondo from so really awful stuff that wasn't really needed.
How would I get such a proxy? Since Mom will be spending many weekends with me after I move back to the 'burgh, it would be a logical thing for me to ask for.
Well legal aide did the one I had for Mrs Mondo, I'm sure you can get it done from a lawyer for pretty cheap. It is some standard boiler plate stuff. Lemme check with my go to person for lawyer stuff.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/11/2008 16:44:19
shelaghc on 01/11/2008 16:44:19
And a man who punked out on us when we needed him the most.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/11/2008 16:46:10
Much thanks. Although I don't want to go behind my sister's back to get the proxy. There's enough bad blood between us. For some reason she has an intense distrust of me though I have no idea what I did to deserve it.
shelaghc on 01/11/2008 16:46:10
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by shelaghc:Quote by Mondobubba:
:scans: Speaking from personal experience, get the health care proxy. A power of attorney can only do so much. Even if it medical POA. Waiving the proxy a couple of times saved Mrs Mondo from so really awful stuff that wasn't really needed.
How would I get such a proxy? Since Mom will be spending many weekends with me after I move back to the 'burgh, it would be a logical thing for me to ask for.
Well legal aide did the one I had for Mrs Mondo, I'm sure you can get it done from a lawyer for pretty cheap. It is some standard boiler plate stuff. Lemme check with my go to person for lawyer stuff.
Much thanks. Although I don't want to go behind my sister's back to get the proxy. There's enough bad blood between us. For some reason she has an intense distrust of me though I have no idea what I did to deserve it.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/11/2008 16:49:03
My estate and trust gal is not answering the IM she must be busy with real clients.
Mondobubba on 01/11/2008 16:49:03
Quote by shelaghc:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by shelaghc:Quote by Mondobubba:
:scans: Speaking from personal experience, get the health care proxy. A power of attorney can only do so much. Even if it medical POA. Waiving the proxy a couple of times saved Mrs Mondo from so really awful stuff that wasn't really needed.
How would I get such a proxy? Since Mom will be spending many weekends with me after I move back to the 'burgh, it would be a logical thing for me to ask for.
Well legal aide did the one I had for Mrs Mondo, I'm sure you can get it done from a lawyer for pretty cheap. It is some standard boiler plate stuff. Lemme check with my go to person for lawyer stuff.
Much thanks. Although I don't want to go behind my sister's back to get the proxy. There's enough bad blood between us. For some reason she has an intense distrust of me though I have no idea what I did to deserve it.
My estate and trust gal is not answering the IM she must be busy with real clients.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/11/2008 16:51:32
No worries. If it's easier, I can give you my email address or you can PM me on the 4F message board when you get the info.
FYI - I'll be in Pennsylvania. Since laws differ from state to state (to commonwealth), she might not want to commit to a specific answer.
shelaghc on 01/11/2008 16:51:32
Quote by Mondobubba: My estate and trust gal is not answering the IM she must be busy with real clients.
No worries. If it's easier, I can give you my email address or you can PM me on the 4F message board when you get the info.
FYI - I'll be in Pennsylvania. Since laws differ from state to state (to commonwealth), she might not want to commit to a specific answer.
Comment by BobR on 01/11/2008 16:52:08
Jimmy Page????
Oh.
My.
Gawd...
:thud:
BobR on 01/11/2008 16:52:08
Quote by Raine: OMG... Men who look like lesbians is scary... HEre is the first entry:
Jimmy Page????
Oh.
My.
Gawd...
:thud:
Comment by shelaghc on 01/11/2008 16:55:32
shelaghc on 01/11/2008 16:55:32
France best, U.S. worst in preventable death ranking
I was right after I saw "Sicko." Time to move to France.
I was right after I saw "Sicko." Time to move to France.
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 16:55:56
Raine on 01/11/2008 16:55:56
The pentagon lied again...
Just two days after the U.S. Navy released the eerie video of Iranian speedboats swarming around American warships, which featured a chilling threat in English, the Navy is saying that the voice on the tape could have come from the shore or from another ship.
The near-clash occurred over the weekend in the Strait of Hormuz. On the U.S.-released recording, a voice can be heard saying to the Americans, "I am coming to you. You will explode after a few minutes."
The Navy never said specifically where the voices came from, but many were left with the impression they had come from the speedboats because of the way the Navy footage was edited.
Today, the spokesperson for the U.S. admiral in charge of the Fifth Fleet clarified to ABC News that the threat may have come from the Iranian boats, or it may have come from somewhere else.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/11/2008 16:57:52
shelaghc on 01/11/2008 16:57:52
Did anyone hear Rachel Maddow quote the "threw up in my mouth" line during her show one night?
I love that my two favorite liberal ladies like and listen to each other.
I love that my two favorite liberal ladies like and listen to each other.
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 16:59:37
Raine on 01/11/2008 16:59:37
UH oh.... Roseanne is not happy with Obama!
barak obama is an empty suit selling "hope" in lieu of Truth. Oprah Winfrey helped to elect Arnold Swartzenegger. I have no doubt that she voted her purse by doing this, as she is a large land owner in California, and that ilk fears Dems because they do not want to pay their "fair share" of Cali tax. Oprah has given us Swartzenegger and Dr. Phil. If that was not offensive enough to decent thinking people, now she brings us Obama. He has no ideas, no plan and nothing to add other than the cynical pacification of the masses with bedtime stories about hope, while calling Unions "special interest groups" that need to be done away with.
Obama votes with Bush constantly funding this terrible endless war. Oprah, you play the race card and the gender card too.
You are a closeted republican and chose Barak Obama because you do not like other women who actually stand for something to working American Women besides glamour, angels, hollywood and dieting!
When Americans find out that Obama backs right wing corporate racist anti worker bullshit, they will not vote for him, and the victory will go to the most racist right wing republican ever.... Mccain, who is a fascist! That the culinary service workers in vegas have promised barak their vote,( he is anti union in his votes) over edwards, who is a pro-union man, just proves how stupid americans are and how they can be tricked so easily by the color of a person's skin...exactly what MLK hated!
Obama doesn't even back reproductive rights for any woman! It is historical that Oprah Winfrey, beloved of women, chooses a flashy man with small credentials over a seasoned woman politician with 35 years of experience...and sells that to the female demographic who look to her for inspiration!
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 17:02:03
:foil: RoseanneWorld has had it's account suspended!!! BEHOLD the power of the "O"...
Raine on 01/11/2008 17:02:03
Quote by Raine: UH oh.... Roseanne is not happy with Obama!barak obama is an empty suit selling "hope" in lieu of Truth. Oprah Winfrey helped to elect Arnold Swartzenegger. I have no doubt that she voted her purse by doing this, as she is a large land owner in California, and that ilk fears Dems because they do not want to pay their "fair share" of Cali tax. Oprah has given us Swartzenegger and Dr. Phil. If that was not offensive enough to decent thinking people, now she brings us Obama. He has no ideas, no plan and nothing to add other than the cynical pacification of the masses with bedtime stories about hope, while calling Unions "special interest groups" that need to be done away with.
Obama votes with Bush constantly funding this terrible endless war. Oprah, you play the race card and the gender card too.
You are a closeted republican and chose Barak Obama because you do not like other women who actually stand for something to working American Women besides glamour, angels, hollywood and dieting!
When Americans find out that Obama backs right wing corporate racist anti worker bullshit, they will not vote for him, and the victory will go to the most racist right wing republican ever.... Mccain, who is a fascist! That the culinary service workers in vegas have promised barak their vote,( he is anti union in his votes) over edwards, who is a pro-union man, just proves how stupid americans are and how they can be tricked so easily by the color of a person's skin...exactly what MLK hated!
Obama doesn't even back reproductive rights for any woman! It is historical that Oprah Winfrey, beloved of women, chooses a flashy man with small credentials over a seasoned woman politician with 35 years of experience...and sells that to the female demographic who look to her for inspiration!
:foil: RoseanneWorld has had it's account suspended!!! BEHOLD the power of the "O"...
Comment by livingonli on 01/11/2008 17:03:42
The scary part is on Long Island, there are lots of guys like that (and a few that I have worked with).
livingonli on 01/11/2008 17:03:42
Quote by Mondobubba: :rofl: Hot Chicks with Douchebags is priceless.
The scary part is on Long Island, there are lots of guys like that (and a few that I have worked with).
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/11/2008 17:06:31
It is very close to Jersey which is the motherland of douchebaggery according the guy what runs HCwDBs
Mondobubba on 01/11/2008 17:06:31
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Mondobubba: :rofl: Hot Chicks with Douchebags is priceless.
The scary part is on Long Island, there are lots of guys like that (and a few that I have worked with).
It is very close to Jersey which is the motherland of douchebaggery according the guy what runs HCwDBs
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 17:07:20
Raine on 01/11/2008 17:07:20
Rudy's done for. If he can't pay his staff, then how the hell can you expect him to run this country?
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 17:08:08
starling310 on 01/11/2008 17:08:08
Terry Jeffries has come back for another spankin' from Thom! 
Thom ----->
<--------- Terry
Thom ----->
<--------- Terry
Comment by shelaghc on 01/11/2008 17:11:03
shelaghc on 01/11/2008 17:11:03
Time for me to get some work done around here.
I know I'm almost done packing, but why does it look like I'm not?
Maybe I'm wrong?......
I know I'm almost done packing, but why does it look like I'm not?
Maybe I'm wrong?......
Comment by livingonli on 01/11/2008 17:12:09
Hey, he is the tiny pundit with a big vision for America.
livingonli on 01/11/2008 17:12:09
Quote by starling310: Terry Jeffries has come back for another spankin' from Thom!
Thom ----->
Hey, he is the tiny pundit with a big vision for America.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/11/2008 17:14:06
Can do Shelagh!
Hang in there. It is true that what doesn't kill you etc.
Mondobubba on 01/11/2008 17:14:06
Quote by shelaghc:Quote by Mondobubba: My estate and trust gal is not answering the IM she must be busy with real clients.
No worries. If it's easier, I can give you my email address or you can PM me on the 4F message board when you get the info.
FYI - I'll be in Pennsylvania. Since laws differ from state to state (to commonwealth), she might not want to commit to a specific answer.
Can do Shelagh!
Hang in there. It is true that what doesn't kill you etc.
Comment by BobR on 01/11/2008 17:20:09
There's always all that stuff that you can't pack until the last minute.
BobR on 01/11/2008 17:20:09
Quote by shelaghc: Time for me to get some work done around here.
I know I'm almost done packing, but why does it look like I'm not?
Maybe I'm wrong?......
There's always all that stuff that you can't pack until the last minute.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/11/2008 17:20:11
shelaghc on 01/11/2008 17:20:11
Bye y'all!
It's been a lazy way to spend the morning - but now it's time to look everything over and see what needs to be done.
Two weeks from today I'll be driving with two ultra-conservatives between Pittsburgh and Chicago to cram my life into a truck.
It's been a lazy way to spend the morning - but now it's time to look everything over and see what needs to be done.
Two weeks from today I'll be driving with two ultra-conservatives between Pittsburgh and Chicago to cram my life into a truck.
Comment by BobR on 01/11/2008 17:22:05
He wore a yarmulke?? Did they have to burn it afterwards?
And perhaps someone should pull him aside and tell him:
1) We didn't know how extreme it was until after the war.
2) There were a lot of people there that would've been killed by bombing it that didn't deserve to die.
Bombing a POW camp.
F*cking brilliant.
BobR on 01/11/2008 17:22:05
Quote by Raine: The man is insane.
Bush: US should have bombed Auschwitz
He wore a yarmulke?? Did they have to burn it afterwards?
And perhaps someone should pull him aside and tell him:
1) We didn't know how extreme it was until after the war.
2) There were a lot of people there that would've been killed by bombing it that didn't deserve to die.
Bombing a POW camp.
F*cking brilliant.
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 17:45:08
Raine on 01/11/2008 17:45:08
Pocket Pundit is getting squeaky!! :P
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 17:46:18
Wow... you will have to give us details about this when you get a chance!
CUL8R Shelagh!
Raine on 01/11/2008 17:46:18
Quote by shelaghc: Bye y'all!
It's been a lazy way to spend the morning - but now it's time to look everything over and see what needs to be done.
Two weeks from today I'll be driving with two ultra-conservatives between Pittsburgh and Chicago to cram my life into a truck.
CUL8R Shelagh!
Comment by wickedpam on 01/11/2008 17:47:20
wickedpam on 01/11/2008 17:47:20
Hey dummy! I don't have any money too invest your freaking brain dead idiot!!!!!! 
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 17:51:59
Raine on 01/11/2008 17:51:59
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 18:14:09
starling310 on 01/11/2008 18:14:09
Hearing Thom talk about the economy makes me feel sick to my stomach.
It's like being tied to an active train track.
It's like being tied to an active train track.
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 01/11/2008 18:44:26
velveeta jones on 01/11/2008 18:44:26
Afternoon all. Sorry it took me so long to get up! 
Has anyone posted this: Looks like Ron Paul really is a racist? Writings found that are allegedly written by Paul that are really, really bad! I'll try to find a link.
Ron needs to come out and explain why he voted against the Civil Rights Act and why he has never spoken out against these writings. Its time to clear this up.
Has anyone posted this: Looks like Ron Paul really is a racist? Writings found that are allegedly written by Paul that are really, really bad! I'll try to find a link.
Ron needs to come out and explain why he voted against the Civil Rights Act and why he has never spoken out against these writings. Its time to clear this up.
Comment by livingonli on 01/11/2008 18:53:54
How come progressive talk shows whether Air America, Stephanie Miller or Mike Malloy run these ads for investments and get-rich quick schemes? I don't think that many listeners are dumb enough to be sucked in by them.
livingonli on 01/11/2008 18:53:54
Quote by wickedpam: Hey dummy! I don't have any money too invest your freaking brain dead idiot!!!!!!
How come progressive talk shows whether Air America, Stephanie Miller or Mike Malloy run these ads for investments and get-rich quick schemes? I don't think that many listeners are dumb enough to be sucked in by them.
Comment by TriSec on 01/11/2008 18:56:02
So should Iran take this as tacit approval to bomb Guantanamo Bay in order to 'liberate' their prisoners?
TriSec on 01/11/2008 18:56:02
Quote by Raine: The man is insane.
Bush: US should have bombed Auschwitz
So should Iran take this as tacit approval to bomb Guantanamo Bay in order to 'liberate' their prisoners?
Comment by TriSec on 01/11/2008 18:58:43
How's this?
TriSec on 01/11/2008 18:58:43
Quote by velveeta jones: Afternoon all. Sorry it took me so long to get up!
Has anyone posted this: Looks like Ron Paul really is a racist? Writings found that are allegedly written by Paul that are really, really bad! I'll try to find a link.
Ron needs to come out and explain why he voted against the Civil Rights Act and why he has never spoken out against these writings. Its time to clear this up.
How's this?
Getting much attention: A 1996 Houston Chronicle story that says a newsletter Paul published in the early 1990s "highlighted portrayals of blacks as inclined toward crime and lacking sense about top political issues." That newsletter was called the Ron Paul Political Report, and according to Kos, Paul told Texas Monthly magazine in October 2001 that "I could never say this in the campaign, but those words weren't really written by me. ... It wasn't my language at all.” Kos points out, though, that the newsletter was eight pages long and "whether he employed other writers or not, it beggars belief that Paul would not have had full control and approval over its contents."
http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2007/05/ron_pauls_past_.html
Ron Paul’s own words on racism, circa 2002, are perhaps his own best rebuttal, according to sources close to the campaign:
“The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims. Liberty means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence, not skin color, gender, or ethnicity. In a free market, businesses that discriminate lose customers, goodwill, and valuable employees – while rational businesses flourish by choosing the most qualified employees and selling to all willing buyers. More importantly, in a free society every citizen gains a sense of himself as an individual, rather than developing a group or victim mentality. This leads to a sense of individual responsibility and personal pride, making skin color irrelevant. Rather than looking to government to correct what is essentially a sin of the heart, we should understand that reducing racism requires a shift from group thinking to an emphasis on individualism.”
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul68.html
Sources close to the campaign point out that Paul's message is one of liberty and individual achievement divorced from government giveaways and self-worth-sapping programs. These sources add that for Paul to espouse racism - the idea that one's physical characteristics are more important than his or her abilities and promise - he would have to run counter to the conservative libertarian philosophy that he espoused during a previous campaign for president as libertarian candidate.
Ron Paul's message, articles and dozens of major speeches on the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives clearly portray his beliefs and perspectives. None of them are racist. None of them contain racist imagery. They deal with taxation, the federal reserve and focus on attempts to constrain the power and abuses of the federal government.
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/11/2008 19:06:20
velveeta jones on 01/11/2008 19:06:20
Link to Daily Kos article on Ron Paul's newsletters (allegedly written by Paul). Juicy stuff!!
Ron Paul newsletter tidbits
Also, another taser death...........in Miami.
Ron Paul newsletter tidbits
Also, another taser death...........in Miami.
(After a disturbance at a party) A short while later, Coral Gables police officers responded and used a Taser gun to take him into custody.
"He was combative, belligerent (and) very aggressive with the officers," Miami-Dade police Detective Carlos Maura said.
The man began to suffer from an unknown medical episode and paramedics were called, Maura said. He was taken to Doctor's Hospital, where he was pronounced dead.
Police identified the man as Xavier Jones, 29. It was unclear if he was a student at UM.
The officer who deployed the Taser gun has been placed on administrative leave pending the outcome of the investigation.
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 19:12:41
Raine on 01/11/2008 19:12:41
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 19:20:16
The copy, in case it is too hard to read:
If he doesn't endorse this behavior, why hasn't he denied tht this is his newsletter? This is a real problem to me.
Raine on 01/11/2008 19:20:16
Quote by Raine:
The copy, in case it is too hard to read:
"The criminals who terrorized our cities-in riots and on every non-riot day-are not exclusively young black males, but they largely are. As children they are trained to hate whites, to believe that white oppression is responsible for all black ills, to 'fight the power,' to steal and loot as much money from the white enemy as possible. Anything is justified against 'The Man.'"
If he doesn't endorse this behavior, why hasn't he denied tht this is his newsletter? This is a real problem to me.
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 19:23:21
Raine on 01/11/2008 19:23:21
Also from CNN:
Matt Welch, the editor-in-chief of "Reason" magazine who shares some of Paul's beliefs on big government, says he has never heard the congressman make racist comments like those in the newsletters.
"What I think some people are looking for him to do is to say, 'OK, who wrote that?' I mean, there's 20 years, give or take, worth of newsletters there," Welch said.
Paul said the editor of publications "is responsible for daily activities." But he also cited "transition" and "changes" and said that some people were hired to write stories "but I didn't know their names."
The presidential hopeful described the newsletter revelations as a "rehash" of old material dug up by his opponents because he is gaining ground with black voters due to his stance against the war in Iraq and the war on drugs.
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 19:31:19
The Foundation for Rational Economics and Education, Inc. is a 501 ©(3) tax-exempt public foundation dedicated to individual liberty and free-market economics.
It was founded by Congressman Ron Paul of Texas and publishes his Freedom Report.
For more information, or to make a tax-deductible donation, write:
FREE., Inc.,
P.O. Box 1776,
Lake Jackson, Texas 77566,
or call 979-265-3034.
==================================
But on the from page, it says:
NOTICE TO RON PAUL SUPPORTERS:
Congressman Ron Paul is no longer affiliated with or associated in any way with The Liberty Committee of Falls Church, Virginia.
If you receive a solicitation from The Liberty Committee and/or its chairman,
Mr. David James, bearing Congressman Paul's name, please be advised that the solicitation was in no way approved or endorsed by Congressman Paul.
Raine on 01/11/2008 19:31:19
Quote by Raine: Ron Paul Freedom Report
This is strange.
The Foundation for Rational Economics and Education, Inc. is a 501 ©(3) tax-exempt public foundation dedicated to individual liberty and free-market economics.
It was founded by Congressman Ron Paul of Texas and publishes his Freedom Report.
For more information, or to make a tax-deductible donation, write:
FREE., Inc.,
P.O. Box 1776,
Lake Jackson, Texas 77566,
or call 979-265-3034.
==================================
But on the from page, it says:
NOTICE TO RON PAUL SUPPORTERS:
Congressman Ron Paul is no longer affiliated with or associated in any way with The Liberty Committee of Falls Church, Virginia.
If you receive a solicitation from The Liberty Committee and/or its chairman,
Mr. David James, bearing Congressman Paul's name, please be advised that the solicitation was in no way approved or endorsed by Congressman Paul.
Comment by BobR on 01/11/2008 19:34:05
Was he reading my blog? B)
BobR on 01/11/2008 19:34:05
Quote by starling310: Hearing Thom talk about the economy makes me feel sick to my stomach.
It's like being tied to an active train track.
Was he reading my blog? B)
Comment by livingonli on 01/11/2008 19:37:13
The question must be when did Ron Paul break from the organization and was he part of it at any time those racist writings showed up in the newsletter.
And on that note, I am off to the salt mine, but no training so I should be able to float around tonight.
livingonli on 01/11/2008 19:37:13
Quote by Raine:Quote by Raine: Ron Paul Freedom Report
This is strange.
The Foundation for Rational Economics and Education, Inc. is a 501 ©(3) tax-exempt public foundation dedicated to individual liberty and free-market economics.
It was founded by Congressman Ron Paul of Texas and publishes his Freedom Report.
For more information, or to make a tax-deductible donation, write:
FREE., Inc.,
P.O. Box 1776,
Lake Jackson, Texas 77566,
or call 979-265-3034.
==================================
But on the from page, it says:
NOTICE TO RON PAUL SUPPORTERS:
Congressman Ron Paul is no longer affiliated with or associated in any way with The Liberty Committee of Falls Church, Virginia.
If you receive a solicitation from The Liberty Committee and/or its chairman,
Mr. David James, bearing Congressman Paul's name, please be advised that the solicitation was in no way approved or endorsed by Congressman Paul.
The question must be when did Ron Paul break from the organization and was he part of it at any time those racist writings showed up in the newsletter.
And on that note, I am off to the salt mine, but no training so I should be able to float around tonight.
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 19:44:47
Raine on 01/11/2008 19:44:47
Michigan Voters should VOTE uncommitted for thier vote!
Comment by TriSec on 01/11/2008 20:05:47
TriSec on 01/11/2008 20:05:47
BOUNCE!
Comment by wickedpam on 01/11/2008 20:08:04
:ph34r:
:boobs2: 
wickedpam on 01/11/2008 20:08:04
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 20:09:00
IT friday ya bastahds!!!
Raine on 01/11/2008 20:09:00
Comment by BobR on 01/11/2008 20:09:07
:bounce:
:martini:
:bounce:
BobR on 01/11/2008 20:09:07
:martini::bounce:
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 20:09:18
starling310 on 01/11/2008 20:09:18
: stretching : : limbering up :
Aaaaannnnnd.....
Aaaaannnnnd.....
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 20:09:51
Raine on 01/11/2008 20:09:51
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 20:10:58
Da' Blog.
starling310 on 01/11/2008 20:10:58
Da' Blog.
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 20:11:24
starling310 on 01/11/2008 20:11:24
There's a lotta in this room.
in this room.
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 20:12:39
Raine on 01/11/2008 20:12:39
Quote by starling310:
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 20:16:19
starling310 on 01/11/2008 20:16:19
Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!
Reagan! Reagan! Reagan!
Reagan! Reagan! Reagan!
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 20:17:55
Raine on 01/11/2008 20:17:55
{Fred_Gump}
From Raw Story.
"I think one more step and they would have been introduced to those virgins that they're looking forward to seeing," added flagging candidate and onetime Law and Order star Fred Thompson.
According to the London Times, "The crowd cheered," even though Thompson had apparently confused Iranian sailors with Al Qaeda terrorists.
From Raw Story.
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 20:18:20
:rofl:
Perfect!
Raine on 01/11/2008 20:18:20
Quote by starling310: Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!
Reagan! Reagan! Reagan!
Perfect!
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 20:18:51
Raine on 01/11/2008 20:18:51
Today is also the anniversary of Gitmo being opened.
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 20:21:08
Raine on 01/11/2008 20:21:08
From TPM:
A new SurveyUSA poll has some bad news for Rudy Giuliani and his big-state strategy: He's only three points ahead of John McCain in his home state of New York:
Giuliani 32%
McCain 29%
Huckabee 12%
Romney 7%
Thompson 6%
A new SurveyUSA poll has some bad news for Rudy Giuliani and his big-state strategy: He's only three points ahead of John McCain in his home state of New York:
Giuliani 32%
McCain 29%
Huckabee 12%
Romney 7%
Thompson 6%
Comment by TriSec on 01/11/2008 20:21:34
TriSec on 01/11/2008 20:21:34
Figures it would take virgins to make Fred perk up...
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 20:23:18
starling310 on 01/11/2008 20:23:18
Aw...the Good 'Ole days of Michael Jackson.
:cry:
:cry:
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 20:23:33
Also from TPM:
Raine on 01/11/2008 20:23:33
Quote by Raine: From TPM:
A new SurveyUSA poll has some bad news for Rudy Giuliani and his big-state strategy: He's only three points ahead of John McCain in his home state of New York:
Giuliani 32%
McCain 29%
Huckabee 12%
Romney 7%
Thompson 6%
Also from TPM:
The most recent poll of his do-or-die state of Florida has him running third, six points behind Huckabee and two behind Romney.
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 20:23:59
Raine on 01/11/2008 20:23:59
Quote by TriSec: Figures it would take virgins to make Fred perk up...
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 20:27:05
Raine on 01/11/2008 20:27:05
Uhm... Yes, Randi... we knew about the nader endorsement. 
you didn't???
you didn't???
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 20:27:40
Raine on 01/11/2008 20:27:40
I can't WAIT for Bush's endorsement!!! 
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/11/2008 20:49:04
Sounds like a great idea for a letter writing campaign!
Dear President Bush,
As a fervent supporter of Huckabee/Thompson/Guiliani (pick one) I hope that you will consider your endorsement..........(blah blah) ...... to fight islamic jihadists in the global war on terror....(blah blah) and how important it will be to put the "right" God fearing MAN on the supreme court (blah blah, etc)
Your loyal patriot and friend,
Velveeta Jones
velveeta jones on 01/11/2008 20:49:04
Quote by Raine: I can't WAIT for Bush's endorsement!!!
Sounds like a great idea for a letter writing campaign!
Dear President Bush,
As a fervent supporter of Huckabee/Thompson/Guiliani (pick one) I hope that you will consider your endorsement..........(blah blah) ...... to fight islamic jihadists in the global war on terror....(blah blah) and how important it will be to put the "right" God fearing MAN on the supreme court (blah blah, etc)
Your loyal patriot and friend,
Velveeta Jones
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/11/2008 21:03:12
:scans:
:rofl:
Mondobubba on 01/11/2008 21:03:12
Quote by starling310: Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!
Reagan! Reagan! Reagan!
:scans:
:rofl:
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 21:12:05
starling310 on 01/11/2008 21:12:05
I got an ROFL from Mondo!!!
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 21:15:12
Raine on 01/11/2008 21:15:12
It looks like we are going to SC tomorrow morning.
Just trying to figure out if we go, what we will be doing once we get to greenville.
Just trying to figure out if we go, what we will be doing once we get to greenville.
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 21:18:08
Raine on 01/11/2008 21:18:08
Retooling the message? HEy... didn't BobR mention that in his blog the other day???
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 21:18:45
Raine on 01/11/2008 21:18:45
IT is about time someone talked about how edwards can still win the namination...
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 21:20:18
starling310 on 01/11/2008 21:20:18
Did I miss the Edwards talk? I nodded off for a bit. Don't tell my superiors.
Comment by livingonli on 01/11/2008 21:21:06
Are you going to be back in time to catch the Giants-Cowboys game on Sunday?
Tonight I have the Knicks hosting the Raptors, how sad of a performance will it be tonight?
livingonli on 01/11/2008 21:21:06
Quote by Raine: It looks like we are going to SC tomorrow morning.
Just trying to figure out if we go, what we will be doing once we get to greenville.
Are you going to be back in time to catch the Giants-Cowboys game on Sunday?
Tonight I have the Knicks hosting the Raptors, how sad of a performance will it be tonight?
Comment by livingonli on 01/11/2008 21:21:58
I won't tell if you won't tell. {Fred_Gump}
livingonli on 01/11/2008 21:21:58
Quote by starling310: Did I miss the Edwards talk? I nodded off for a bit. Don't tell my superiors.
I won't tell if you won't tell.
{Fred_Gump}
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 21:23:28
:rofl:
starling310 on 01/11/2008 21:23:28
Quote by livingonli:
I won't tell if you won't tell.
:rofl:
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/11/2008 21:25:16
Wha???
Why you'll be right down the road from Velveeta and her lovely wife (who is a great cook, btw)
velveeta jones on 01/11/2008 21:25:16
Quote by Raine: It looks like we are going to SC tomorrow morning.
Just trying to figure out if we go, what we will be doing once we get to greenville.
Wha???
Why you'll be right down the road from Velveeta and her lovely wife (who is a great cook, btw)
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 21:27:05
DAMN! WE are gonna carpool so we don't have to spend the gas...
Altho, any chance we can get you guys to come and play???
Raine on 01/11/2008 21:27:05
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Raine: It looks like we are going to SC tomorrow morning.
Just trying to figure out if we go, what we will be doing once we get to greenville.
Wha???
Why you'll be right down the road from Velveeta and her lovely wife (who is a great cook, btw)
DAMN! WE are gonna carpool so we don't have to spend the gas...
Altho, any chance we can get you guys to come and play???
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 21:28:18
Oh yeah, this is a day trip. Still not sure tho, I want to know what is gonna happen once we get there.
Raine on 01/11/2008 21:28:18
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine: It looks like we are going to SC tomorrow morning.
Just trying to figure out if we go, what we will be doing once we get to greenville.
Are you going to be back in time to catch the Giants-Cowboys game on Sunday?
Tonight I have the Knicks hosting the Raptors, how sad of a performance will it be tonight?
Comment by TriSec on 01/11/2008 21:31:20
TriSec on 01/11/2008 21:31:20
Psst....Dow was off another 250 points today.
No recession here; keep moving!
I'm off to teach Waltham's Youth about good citizenship, integrity, physical fitness and all that bullpuckey. Oh, and hating the gays, that too. Your BSA at work.
I'll be around later!
:peace: <-- Cub Scout sign
No recession here; keep moving!
I'm off to teach Waltham's Youth about good citizenship, integrity, physical fitness and all that bullpuckey. Oh, and hating the gays, that too. Your BSA at work.
I'll be around later!
:peace: <-- Cub Scout sign
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/11/2008 21:39:09
It'll have to be next time..........I volunteered to help someone. Darn the luck (and my altruism).
velveeta jones on 01/11/2008 21:39:09
Quote by Raine:Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Raine: It looks like we are going to SC tomorrow morning.
Just trying to figure out if we go, what we will be doing once we get to greenville.
Wha???
Why you'll be right down the road from Velveeta and her lovely wife (who is a great cook, btw)
DAMN! WE are gonna carpool so we don't have to spend the gas...
Altho, any chance we can get you guys to come and play???
It'll have to be next time..........I volunteered to help someone. Darn the luck (and my altruism).
Comment by livingonli on 01/11/2008 21:40:10
livingonli on 01/11/2008 21:40:10
How are we looking for that April in DC meetup so far?
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 21:44:35
Raine on 01/11/2008 21:44:35
OK, looks like we are going to greenville to canvass for Edwards tomorrow!
AND
for those that can:
Greenville, SC Address:
Christian & Davis Attorneys at Law
1007 E. Washington Street
Greenville, SC 29602
11AM-3PM
Is where we will be!
AND
for those that can: Greenville, SC Address:
Christian & Davis Attorneys at Law
1007 E. Washington Street
Greenville, SC 29602
11AM-3PM
Is where we will be!
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 21:45:27
WEll I already talked with my partner... we have a few more weekends before the primary!!!
Raine on 01/11/2008 21:45:27
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Raine:Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Raine: It looks like we are going to SC tomorrow morning.
Just trying to figure out if we go, what we will be doing once we get to greenville.
Wha???
Why you'll be right down the road from Velveeta and her lovely wife (who is a great cook, btw)
DAMN! WE are gonna carpool so we don't have to spend the gas...
Altho, any chance we can get you guys to come and play???
It'll have to be next time..........I volunteered to help someone. Darn the luck (and my altruism).
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 21:45:56
This caller is killing me.
Raine on 01/11/2008 21:45:56
This caller is killing me.
Comment by livingonli on 01/11/2008 21:53:38
What was he talking about?
livingonli on 01/11/2008 21:53:38
Quote by Raine:
What was he talking about?
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 21:58:10
starling310 on 01/11/2008 21:58:10
Good GAWD Randi is full of herself.
:puke:
:puke:
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 21:58:25
truthfully he was just being obstinant about anything that Randi sauid..
Raine on 01/11/2008 21:58:25
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:
What was he talking about?
truthfully he was just being obstinant about anything that Randi sauid..
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/11/2008 22:03:15
velveeta jones on 01/11/2008 22:03:15
YIKES!
Wackenhut hires Homer Simpson?
Jan. 10 (Bloomberg) -- Wackenhut Corp. Chief Executive Officer Gary Sanders left a month after the security company lost contracts from Exelon Corp. because guards fell asleep on the job at a nuclear power plant.
Wackenhut hires Homer Simpson?
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/11/2008 22:03:30
Well the juxtapostion of Reagan with Beetlejuice both of of them being comically horrific...:50 Tonne copy of "On Grammatology falls on Mondo:
Mondobubba on 01/11/2008 22:03:30
Quote by starling310: I got an ROFL from Mondo!!!
Well the juxtapostion of Reagan with Beetlejuice both of of them being comically horrific...:50 Tonne copy of "On Grammatology falls on Mondo:
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/11/2008 22:04:25
Wackenhut hires anybody.
Mondobubba on 01/11/2008 22:04:25
Quote by velveeta jones: YIKES!Jan. 10 (Bloomberg) -- Wackenhut Corp. Chief Executive Officer Gary Sanders left a month after the security company lost contracts from Exelon Corp. because guards fell asleep on the job at a nuclear power plant.
Wackenhut hires Homer Simpson?
Wackenhut hires anybody.
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/11/2008 22:04:28
I WANNA GO!
velveeta jones on 01/11/2008 22:04:28
Quote by Raine: OK, looks like we are going to greenville to canvass for Edwards tomorrow!
AND
Greenville, SC Address:
Christian & Davis Attorneys at Law
1007 E. Washington Street
Greenville, SC 29602
11AM-3PM
Is where we will be!
I WANNA GO!
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 22:09:10
starling310 on 01/11/2008 22:09:10
Last bag of Lady Grey and PayDay is not until TUESDAY! AAARGGH!
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 22:14:02
WOOT! WOOT!
That Kucinich. . . we all know he's bonkers. . . I mean he ADMITTED to seeing a UFO.
starling310 on 01/11/2008 22:14:02
Quote by Raine: NH to recount the votes...
WOOT! WOOT!
That Kucinich. . . we all know he's bonkers. . . I mean he ADMITTED to seeing a UFO.
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/11/2008 22:15:15
Oh, I should have inclueded that in my blogger joe gift to you. Lady Grey is my favorite, I like the leaf better than the bag. So yummy!
velveeta jones on 01/11/2008 22:15:15
Quote by starling310: Last bag of Lady Grey and PayDay is not until TUESDAY! AAARGGH!
Oh, I should have inclueded that in my blogger joe gift to you. Lady Grey is my favorite, I like the leaf better than the bag. So yummy!
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 22:22:41
Wie bitter?
I did not participate in Blogger Joe.
starling310 on 01/11/2008 22:22:41
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by starling310: Last bag of Lady Grey and PayDay is not until TUESDAY! AAARGGH!
Oh, I should have inclueded that in my blogger joe gift to you. Lady Grey is my favorite, I like the leaf better than the bag. So yummy!
Wie bitter?
I did not participate in Blogger Joe.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/11/2008 22:23:27
Mondobubba on 01/11/2008 22:23:27
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 22:24:33
Who makes a Lady Grey loose leaf tea?!?!?
I would love that!
starling310 on 01/11/2008 22:24:33
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by starling310: Last bag of Lady Grey and PayDay is not until TUESDAY! AAARGGH!
Oh, I should have inclueded that in my blogger joe gift to you. Lady Grey is my favorite, I like the leaf better than the bag. So yummy!
Who makes a Lady Grey loose leaf tea?!?!?
I would love that!
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/11/2008 22:26:11
Now is the time on "Schprockets" ven ve dance!
Mondobubba on 01/11/2008 22:26:11
Now is the time on "Schprockets" ven ve dance!
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/11/2008 22:27:56
Mondobubba on 01/11/2008 22:27:56
Must resist...big...sleep...muscle relaxer...kicking...in... {Fred_Gump}
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/11/2008 22:31:27
Twinnings makes one, I found it in Europe, but not in the US. However, it is soooo worth going on their website and ordering it in leaf. Its not only tasty, but very pretty!!
BTW, you wern't my secret blogger joe..........it 'twas Mala. Damn, I am seriously getting senile.
velveeta jones on 01/11/2008 22:31:27
Quote by starling310:Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by starling310: Last bag of Lady Grey and PayDay is not until TUESDAY! AAARGGH!
Oh, I should have inclueded that in my blogger joe gift to you. Lady Grey is my favorite, I like the leaf better than the bag. So yummy!
Who makes a Lady Grey loose leaf tea?!?!?
Twinnings makes one, I found it in Europe, but not in the US. However, it is soooo worth going on their website and ordering it in leaf. Its not only tasty, but very pretty!!
BTW, you wern't my secret blogger joe..........it 'twas Mala. Damn, I am seriously getting senile.
Comment by starling310 on 01/11/2008 22:39:07
starling310 on 01/11/2008 22:39:07
My wretched computer is so g*ddamn slow...I just want to chuck it out the window.
Been that way since DAY 1! Bastards.
Been that way since DAY 1! Bastards.
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 22:44:17
I am happy that it is coming from both sides!!!
Raine on 01/11/2008 22:44:17
Quote by starling310:Quote by Raine: NH to recount the votes...
WOOT! WOOT!
That Kucinich. . . we all know he's bonkers. . . I mean he ADMITTED to seeing a UFO.
I am happy that it is coming from both sides!!!
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 22:45:33
I could be wrong, but I am almost sure up in NY I had the lady gret loose in a can... the type you are speaking of... it is delish.
Raine on 01/11/2008 22:45:33
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by starling310:Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by starling310: Last bag of Lady Grey and PayDay is not until TUESDAY! AAARGGH!
Oh, I should have inclueded that in my blogger joe gift to you. Lady Grey is my favorite, I like the leaf better than the bag. So yummy!
Who makes a Lady Grey loose leaf tea?!?!?
Twinnings makes one, I found it in Europe, but not in the US. However, it is soooo worth going on their website and ordering it in leaf. Its not only tasty, but very pretty!!
BTW, you wern't my secret blogger joe..........it 'twas Mala. Damn, I am seriously getting senile.
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/11/2008 22:47:08
velveeta jones on 01/11/2008 22:47:08
Might I suggest that any of us that have a few bucks, throw some money Dennis' way for the recount. I'm gonna send 20 or so..................
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 22:49:28
:foil: the last movie we watched before we lost the remote was... Wait for it.........
BLUE VELVET.
Drama Sting!
Raine on 01/11/2008 22:49:28
Quote by Mondobubba:
Now is the time on "Schprockets" ven ve dance!
:foil: the last movie we watched before we lost the remote was... Wait for it.........
BLUE VELVET.
Drama Sting!
Comment by Raine on 01/11/2008 22:52:54
From what I am reading around the 'nets... he will be needing 80,000 dollars... He doesn't even get a shark with frickin laser beams... Speaking of laser beams... I read the comments over at the youtube site that mondo posted... Check this out... (and tell me if you don't suddenly feel old...)
Raine on 01/11/2008 22:52:54
Quote by velveeta jones: Might I suggest that any of us that have a few bucks, throw some money Dennis' way for the recount. I'm gonna send 20 or so..................
OMG the host
he looks like mike myres in austin powers
i mean modify him a bit and he looks like dr evil!!
i mean even the eye movements
Comment by BobR on 01/11/2008 23:18:35
And then there's the one that said "reminds me of a Saturday Night skit. but I still liked it ".... :wacko:
BobR on 01/11/2008 23:18:35
Quote by Raine:
From what I am reading around the 'nets... he will be needing 80,000 dollars... He doesn't even get a shark with frickin laser beams... Speaking of laser beams... I read the comments over at the youtube site that mondo posted... Check this out... (and tell me if you don't suddenly feel old...)OMG the host
he looks like mike myres in austin powers
i mean modify him a bit and he looks like dr evil!!
i mean even the eye movements
And then there's the one that said "reminds me of a Saturday Night skit. but I still liked it ".... :wacko:
Comment by livingonli on 01/11/2008 23:18:50
Sounds like kids when even early 90's SNL seems old. How about if you started watching the show with the original cast? Actually, by the time I was old enough to stay up and watch it, Bill Murray had already replaced Chevy Chase but Ackroyd and Belushi were still on.
livingonli on 01/11/2008 23:18:50
Quote by Raine: . Speaking of laser beams... I read the comments over at the youtube site that mondo posted... Check this out... (and tell me if you don't suddenly feel old...)OMG the host
he looks like mike myres in austin powers
i mean modify him a bit and he looks like dr evil!!
i mean even the eye movements
Sounds like kids when even early 90's SNL seems old. How about if you started watching the show with the original cast? Actually, by the time I was old enough to stay up and watch it, Bill Murray had already replaced Chevy Chase but Ackroyd and Belushi were still on.
Comment by Raine on 01/12/2008 00:43:06
Raine on 01/12/2008 00:43:06
Dinner is almost ready. If i don't see everyone later, Hopefully we can blog a bit on the road! :peace:
Comment by livingonli on 01/12/2008 00:44:18
livingonli on 01/12/2008 00:44:18
Have a nice time in SC. I think the blog needs a report.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/12/2008 01:49:53
shelaghc on 01/12/2008 01:49:53
So now we know why Rachel and Stephanie like each other.
They both enjoy a good fart joke!
They both enjoy a good fart joke!
Comment by livingonli on 01/12/2008 02:17:42
livingonli on 01/12/2008 02:17:42
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/12/2008 03:42:50
Mondobubba on 01/12/2008 03:42:50
Greetings from the couch. Watching Fight Club & blogging. Ahhh life is good.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/12/2008 06:47:01
shelaghc on 01/12/2008 06:47:01
Dammit...
Isn't there a way I can just get Animal Planet (for my Mom), CNN, Comedy Central and MSNBC without all those other annoying channels?
I don't want five different sports channels. I don't need Food channels or so-called entertainment channels, or ten different channels for syndicated TV shows. And I certainly don't need the Fixed Noise Network.
Why isn't there a way to get good reception on local channels and just the four cable channels I'm really interested in?
Who needs all that other crap anyway? I just want to be able to watch Jon Stewart, Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann. Is that too much to ask for?
Isn't there a way I can just get Animal Planet (for my Mom), CNN, Comedy Central and MSNBC without all those other annoying channels?
I don't want five different sports channels. I don't need Food channels or so-called entertainment channels, or ten different channels for syndicated TV shows. And I certainly don't need the Fixed Noise Network.
Why isn't there a way to get good reception on local channels and just the four cable channels I'm really interested in?
Who needs all that other crap anyway? I just want to be able to watch Jon Stewart, Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann. Is that too much to ask for?