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Author: TriSec    Date: 07/05/2011 10:32:57

Good Morning.

Today is our 3,030th day in Iraq, and our 3,558th day in Afghanistan.

We'll start this morning as we always do; with the latest casualty figures from our ongoing wars, courtesy of Antiwar.com:

American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4469
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 4330
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3610
Since Obama Inauguration (1/20/09): 241
Since Operation New Dawn: 41

Other Coalition Troops - Iraq: 318
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 1,649
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 915
Contractor Employee Deaths - Iraq: 1,487
Journalists - Iraq : 348
Academics Killed - Iraq: 448

We find this morning's cost of war passing through:

$ 1, 216, 375, 300, 000 .00


We'll pause over the cots of war this morning. Every now and again, I'll simply sit and stare at the moving total for a moment or two. The total is now moving $10,000 about every two seconds. Think about that for a second; count to 5 and that's $50,000...roughly the median income for individuals in these United States.


Last week, leading into the holiday weekend, a story came out from Brown University (overseer of the 'Cost of War' website), an overview of the ongoing cost of war.


NEW YORK — When President Barack Obama cited cost as a reason to bring troops home from Afghanistan, he referred to a $1 trillion price tag for America's wars.

Staggering as it is, that figure grossly underestimates the total cost of wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan to the U.S. Treasury and ignores more imposing costs yet to come, according to a study released Wednesday.

The final bill will reach at least $3.7 trillion and could be as high as $4.4 trillion, according to the research project "Costs of War" by Brown University's Watson Institute for International Studies.

In the 10 years since U.S. troops went into Afghanistan to root out the al-Qaida leaders behind the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, spending on the conflicts totaled $2.3 trillion to $2.7 trillion.

Those numbers will continue to soar when considering often overlooked costs such as long-term obligations to wounded veterans and projected war spending from 2012 through 2020.

The estimates do not include at least $1 trillion more in interest payments coming due and many billions more in expenses that cannot be counted, according to the study.

In human terms, 224,000 to 258,000 people have died directly from warfare, including 125,000 civilians in Iraq.

Many more have died indirectly, from the loss of clean drinking water, healthcare, and nutrition. An additional 365,000 have been wounded and 7.8 million people — equal to the combined population of Connecticut and Kentucky — have been displaced.

"Costs of War" brought together more than 20 academics to uncover the expense of war in lives and dollars, a daunting task given the inconsistent recording of lives lost and what the report called opaque and sloppy accounting by the U.S. Congress and the Pentagon.

The report underlines the extent to which war will continue to stretch the U.S. federal budget, which is already on an unsustainable course due to an aging American population and skyrocketing healthcare costs.

It also raises the question of what the United States gained from its multi-trillion-dollar investment.

"I hope that when we look back, whenever this ends, something very good has come out of it," Senator Bob Corker, a Republican from Tennessee, told Reuters in Washington.

In one sense, the report measures the cost of 9/11, the American shorthand for the events of Sept. 11, 2001.

Nineteen hijackers plus other al-Qaida plotters spent an estimated $400,000 to $500,000 on the plane attacks that killed 2,995 people and caused $50 billion to $100 billion in economic damages.

What followed were three wars in which $50 billion amounts to a rounding error. For every person killed on Sept. 11, another 73 have been killed since.


Of course, we all know that in addition to the costs in treasure, there is a cost in lives in war. Afghanistan is proving to be a difficult problem to solve, (something we should maybe consult with the British, or the Russians...but I digress) and despite all the current administration's efforts, 2011 is proving to be not much different from 2010 in that regard.


KABUL, Afghanistan — Despite U.S. reports of progress on the battlefield, American troops were killed in the first half of this year at the same pace as in 2010 — an indication that the war’s toll on U.S. forces has not eased as the Obama administration moves to shift the burden to the Afghans.

While the overall international death toll dropped by 14 percent in the first half of the year, the number of Americans who died remained virtually unchanged, 197 this year compared with 195 in the first six months of last year, according to a tally by The Associated Press.

Americans have been involved in some of the fiercest fighting as the U.S. administration sent more than 30,000 extra troops in a bid to pacify areas in the Taliban’s southern heartland and other dangerous areas. U.S. military officials have predicted more tough fighting through the summer as the Taliban try to regain territory they have lost.

President Barack Obama has begun to reverse the surge of American forces, ordering a reduction of 10,000 by the end of the year and another 23,000 by September 2012. But the U.S. military has not announced which troops are being sent home, or whether they will be withdrawn from any of the most violent areas in the south and east.

Rear Adm. Vic Beck, a spokesman for the U.S.-led coalition in Kabul, said he couldn’t comment specifically on the U.S. death count, but noted that the casualties were unchanged despite the surge in forces. He attributed the overall decline in the international toll to coalition progress on the battlefield, including the discovery of a rising number of militant weapons caches. He also said Afghan security forces are increasingly taking the lead, although recent violence has raised concerns about their readiness to secure their own country.

Beck said insurgents were shifting their focus to attacking civilians, pointing to last week’s attack against the Inter-Continental, a luxury hotel in Kabul, that left 20 people dead, including the nine assailants.

“The enemy is taking the fight more to innocent Afghan civilians because we’re taking it to them pretty hard on the battlefield,” he said.

According to the AP tally, 271 international troops, including the Americans, were killed in the first half of the year — down 14 percent from the 316 killed in the first six months of last year.

With the American deaths virtually unchanged, the decline reflects a drop off in deaths of troops from other contributing nations. In the first half of the year, 74 of these troops — from countries like Britain, France and Australia — died compared with 121 in the first six months of last year.


It's interesting to look at the Fourth in the rear-view mirror today. For the most part, those of us on the home front went about our business, lived our lives, and celebrated our independence. It's been a cliche for so long, it's almost caricature; even Fenway Park paused to remember those "defending our freedoms" overseas.

But with the US under no direct threat of invasion or attack, what is that defense all about these days?
 

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Comment by wickedpam on 07/05/2011 12:32:22
Morning

Comment by wickedpam on 07/05/2011 13:16:33
What do Rick James and Mitt Romney have in common?

hmmmm

Cocaine habit?

Comment by TriSec on 07/05/2011 13:19:26
They like very kinky girls? The kind you won't take home to mother?



Comment by wickedpam on 07/05/2011 13:21:22
Quote by TriSec:
They like very kinky girls? The kind you won't take home to mother?




Comment by TriSec on 07/05/2011 13:45:22
An interesting firework display in Waltham last nite...

It started right on time at 9:30, and seemed to be progressing well. About 15 minutes in, it seemed like everything was going off at once; huge explosions, pillars of fire, the whole works. I commented to our neighbor that they seemed to be going off awfully low in the sky.

Then it abruptly stopped. There were 3 or 4 more starshells, and that was it...about 10 minutes early, too. I heard the crowd chattering "that's it?". It did feel that something went wrong.

And the big fireworks barge in Boston caught fire this morning; messed up some am traffic, but it was put out. Just one alarm, no injuries. Of course, it was a barge in the middle of the river.






Comment by Raine on 07/05/2011 13:49:22
good morning!

Comment by Raine on 07/05/2011 14:15:45
Comment by TriSec on 07/05/2011 14:23:04
Well, what do you know?

I just spooled up WCRB (classical) and managed to catch an old-school test of the National Emergency Broadcast System. (remember those?)

Here is your emergency tone: FWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!



Comment by wickedpam on 07/05/2011 14:24:27
klassy

Comment by TriSec on 07/05/2011 14:25:57
Raine: WTF??

Well, everything I learned about Christianity I learned watching "The Passion of the Christ".

I thought I heard some patriots whirring in their sarcophogi as we cycled past this Saturday.



Comment by Raine on 07/05/2011 14:38:27
Quote by TriSec:
Raine: WTF??

Well, everything I learned about Christianity I learned watching "The Passion of the Christ".

I thought I heard some patriots whirring in their sarcophogi as we cycled past this Saturday.

That is a great point, Tri.

I don;t know what I find more disturbing, the Tshirts, or the Tea Party Fox news sign.


Comment by wickedpam on 07/05/2011 14:46:47
I don't think that true Hal, I'm christian and I believe in evolution.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/05/2011 14:49:13
Quote by Raine:
Quote by TriSec:
Raine: WTF??

Well, everything I learned about Christianity I learned watching "The Passion of the Christ".

I thought I heard some patriots whirring in their sarcophogi as we cycled past this Saturday.

That is a great point, Tri.

I don;t know what I find more disturbing, the Tshirts, or the Tea Party Fox news sign.



They have to be selling them somewhere online - I googled Kentucky tea party and all I found was the usual stuff. This is probably on like cafe press or zazzle by another name. Or this guy owns a press shop

Comment by wickedpam on 07/05/2011 14:50:41
Is Hal saying Johnny Rotten and Sid were posers?

Comment by velveeta jones on 07/05/2011 14:58:56
Didn't get to see one stinking firework!



Comment by velveeta jones on 07/05/2011 15:03:15
Quote by wickedpam:



They have to be selling them somewhere online - I googled Kentucky tea party and all I found was the usual stuff. This is probably on like cafe press or zazzle by another name. Or this guy owns a press shop



Here's some nice stuff for ya, Pam!

Comment by wickedpam on 07/05/2011 15:03:32
Quote by velveeta jones:
Didn't get to see one stinking firework!




neither did I really, unless you count the ones the kids next door light off on the sidewalk

Comment by TriSec on 07/05/2011 15:07:29
Quote by velveeta jones:
Didn't get to see one stinking firework!



Aren't you in NC? There's fireworks stores on every corner there, no? (and porn shops and Bible colleges, but I digress.)




Comment by wickedpam on 07/05/2011 15:09:25
Quote by velveeta jones:
Quote by wickedpam:



They have to be selling them somewhere online - I googled Kentucky tea party and all I found was the usual stuff. This is probably on like cafe press or zazzle by another name. Or this guy owns a press shop



Here's some nice stuff for ya, Pam!


eek - some of that stuff doesn't make sense, some is offense and the rest is just over designed - all in all its a waste of irony when those items are just made in China


Comment by TriSec on 07/05/2011 15:09:44
Quote by velveeta jones:



Here's some nice stuff for ya, Pam!


Well, I might wear the TSA one. Like I was saying on my July 2nd blog, I'm really pissed that they've co-opted so many of our revolutionary symbols for their incorrect representations.




Comment by Raine on 07/05/2011 15:11:08
Quote by wickedpam:
Is Hal saying Johnny Rotten and Sid were posers?
Hal, the guy who worships KISS?


Comment by wickedpam on 07/05/2011 15:13:22
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Is Hal saying Johnny Rotten and Sid were posers?
Hal, the guy who worships KISS?



seriously, Poison has the best punk album of the 80's? I thought they were pop metal?

Comment by Raine on 07/05/2011 15:19:56
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Is Hal saying Johnny Rotten and Sid were posers?
Hal, the guy who worships KISS?



seriously, Poison has the best punk album of the 80's? I thought they were pop metal?
Did he REALLY say that? I walked away. HOLY goodness!

Look I know that Hal's music style isn't to my personal tastes, but that is just wrong. On EVERY level.


Comment by TriSec on 07/05/2011 15:21:57
The 80s?

First, there was Duran Duran. (Yes, one of the few "blokes" that liked the Duraners.)

Then Purple Rain came out my graduation summer....and that changed everything.



Comment by wickedpam on 07/05/2011 15:24:39
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Is Hal saying Johnny Rotten and Sid were posers?
Hal, the guy who worships KISS?



seriously, Poison has the best punk album of the 80's? I thought they were pop metal?
Did he REALLY say that? I walked away. HOLY goodness!

Look I know that Hal's music style isn't to my personal tastes, but that is just wrong. On EVERY level.



yep - he said that to Charlie Pierce - I think that's one of the most shocking things he said

Comment by TriSec on 07/05/2011 15:32:24
A bad Fourth in the City of Boston...


In the space of just five hours on the night that the nation celebrates its birth, 13 people were shot and stabbed in five of Boston's neighborhoods - and four died, according to Boston police.

Boston Police Commissioner Edward Davis and his command staff are looking at the individual acts of violence to see if they are connected in any way, said Elaine Driscoll, police spokeswoman.

"Investigators are trying to sort what happened on the street last night and over the weekend," she said. "The police commissioner is meeting with his command staff and district level detectives to analyze each incident and figure out what the relationships are."

The identities of the victims - deceased or alive - were not released today.





Comment by TriSec on 07/05/2011 15:45:55
Oh, great.

Asbestos-contaminated town gets re-contaminated as cleanup nears end.


LIBBY, MONT. — For a decade, the people of Libby have longed for the day when they will be rid of the asbestos that turned their town into the deadliest Superfund site in America.

Now they are being forced to live through the agony all over again, thanks to two giant piles of bark and wood chips on the edge of town.

An Associated Press investigation found that the federal government has known for at least three years that the wood piles were contaminated with an unknown level of asbestos, even as Libby residents hauled truckload after truckload of the material away from the site and placed it in yards, in city parks, outside schools and at the local cemetery. The Environmental Protection Agency did not stop the removal of the material until the AP began investigating in early March.

Regulators still do not know what effect the material could have on public health, but EPA documents obtained by the AP showed that the agency found potentially deadly asbestos fibers in four of 20 samples taken from the piles of scrap wood in 2007. The sprawling piles came from a now-defunct timber mill that took thousands of trees from a forest tainted with asbestos from a nearby mine.



Comment by Raine on 07/05/2011 15:52:00
BTW, Thursday I will be a guest on Shane-o's Show along with Leftneck chick and Jacob Dean, Associate Producer of the Thom Hartmann Show!

:)

Comment by Raine on 07/05/2011 16:50:29
So I killt the blog.

Comment by livingonli on 07/05/2011 16:51:54
Good day folks. It's hot and humid and I feel like sleeping. I missed Hal's comment and as someone who preferred punk over hair metal in the 80;s (and still do) I would have to dispute that comment.

Comment by TriSec on 07/05/2011 16:55:27
*grunt*

I have yet to be on with Shane-O. LNC loves me, though.

Comment by Raine on 07/05/2011 16:55:38
Quote by livingonli:
Good day folks. It's hot and humid and I feel like sleeping. I missed Hal's comment and as someone who preferred punk over hair metal in the 80;s (and still do) I would have to dispute that comment.
Hal is right on the money in many many cases, this time --

WRONG!


Comment by Raine on 07/05/2011 16:56:57
Quote by TriSec:
*grunt*

I have yet to be on with Shane-O. LNC loves me, though.
Give it time, Tri. Shane only does a few hours one day a week! LNC however! She is a damn machine!

And I think we should make definitive plans to have a talk friday nite. FOR REAL this time!



Comment by wickedpam on 07/05/2011 16:58:25
Quote by Raine:
So I killt the blog.



we were sitting in awe of your internet fame







(you know I'm joking around right - dry humor does not translate well to internet )

Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/05/2011 16:59:07
Damn, I wanted OJ this morning.
All 4 cartons of OJ in the cafeteria were dated July 4.
Damn.

Today is the "Invasion of the Co-ops" at work as the previous "semester's" co-ops have gone back to school and they're replaced for the next 6 months. Think there's 4 or 5 of 'em. Mostly from Northeastern University.


Comment by TriSec on 07/05/2011 17:18:30
Aw, a day over the freshness date won't kill you.

But I'd pass if it was green juice.



Comment by Raine on 07/05/2011 17:29:47
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
So I killt the blog.



we were sitting in awe of your internet fame







(you know I'm joking around right - dry humor does not translate well to internet )
Dry Humor translates quite well here. And between you and I!


Comment by Raine on 07/05/2011 17:30:49
I'm actually excited and NErvous, it should be a good show... Let me put it this way, I am brushing up on the federalist papers.

and tha tis all I'll say about that.


Comment by wickedpam on 07/05/2011 17:39:12
Quote by Raine:
I'm actually excited and NErvous, it should be a good show... Let me put it this way, I am brushing up on the federalist papers.

and tha tis all I'll say about that.



You'll do great! I listened when you and SHane subbed for Nicole - you were really good


Comment by wickedpam on 07/05/2011 17:39:49
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
So I killt the blog.



we were sitting in awe of your internet fame







(you know I'm joking around right - dry humor does not translate well to internet )
Dry Humor translates quite well here. And between you and I!



Yay! We speak blog!

Comment by TriSec on 07/05/2011 17:46:26
If anyone is following, a verdict is coming out in the Casey Anthony trial at about 2:15...

Less than 24 hours deliberation. I'd venture a guess what that means.



Comment by Raine on 07/05/2011 18:13:54
Quote by TriSec:
If anyone is following, a verdict is coming out in the Casey Anthony trial at about 2:15...

Less than 24 hours deliberation. I'd venture a guess what that means.


I can't believe it took that long, to be honest.

Comment by Raine on 07/05/2011 18:20:30
Still waiting to here the official report, but just saw this: @breakingnews: DEVELOPING: Casey Anthony found not guilty of 1stdegree murder in death of her child - NBC News http://on.msnbc.com/khzBEm

Comment by Raine on 07/05/2011 18:21:42
And there it is. Not guilty of 1st degree murder and not guilty of Chid abuse.

seriously. wtf.

Comment by TriSec on 07/05/2011 18:23:34
Palm Beach Post has been on top of this all along....updates are now seriously delayed.

Good to know that if I need to kill a child, Florida is a safe state to do it in.



Comment by wickedpam on 07/05/2011 18:23:44
Quote by Raine:
And there it is. Not guilty of 1st degree murder and not guilty of Chid abuse.

seriously. wtf.



seriously?

I didn't follow any of the trial but what the hell happened? I thought the DA had solid evidence?

Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/05/2011 18:27:19
Quote by TriSec:
Aw, a day over the freshness date won't kill you.

But I'd pass if it was green juice.



Well, there's been lots of turnover in the cafeteria lately. Not taking chances.

Mildly surprised that CBS did the Boston Pops fireworks last night in HD. They didn't last year.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/05/2011 18:29:10
Quote by TriSec:
Palm Beach Post has been on top of this all along....updates are now seriously delayed.

Good to know that if I need to kill a child, Florida is a safe state to do it in.



Known as "God's Waiting Room" for both young and old.


*ducks incoming*

Comment by Raine on 07/05/2011 18:30:48
I didn't follow the trial either. What I know is that after 30+ days, she reported this little girl missing -- they found the body someplace, and supposedly it was determined that she drowned in a pool and the body was hidden.

the sticking point for me was who the HELL reports a child missing after over a month, much less a MOTHER? JUST for that she should be found guilty of total and complete negligence.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/05/2011 18:33:51
Quote by Raine:
I didn't follow the trial either. What I know is that after 30+ days, she reported this little girl missing -- they found the body someplace, and supposedly it was determined that she drowned in a pool and the body was hidden.

the sticking point for me was who the HELL reports a child missing after over a month, much less a MOTHER? JUST for that she should be found guilty of total and complete negligence.



agreed. How did the neighbors not notice? How did either set of grandparents not notice? Where's the father? Friends of the family? Other family members?

This poor baby got no justice.