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The Man Who Would be King
Author: Raine    Date: 08/22/2011 15:30:49

As of the writing of this blog, it should be reported that Colonel Qaddafi has not given up control of Libya. We have a blog post going (thank you Will in Chicago) that has the overnight updates here, and I hope to update it as the day progresses.

Gaddafi's future is tentative at best, but that didn't stop John McCain and Lindsey Graham from issuing this statement:
“The end of the Qadaffi regime in Libya is a victory for the Libyan people and for the broader cause of freedom in the Middle East and throughout the world. This achievement was made possible first and foremost by the struggle and sacrifice of countless Libyans, whose courage and perseverance we applaud. We also commend our British, French, and other allies, as well as our Arab partners, especially Qatar and the UAE, for their leadership in this conflict. Americans can be proud of the role our country has played in helping to defeat Qaddafi, but we regret that this success was so long in coming due to the failure of the United States to employ the full weight of our airpower.
I will not go so far as to give President Obama full credit for the events happening in Libya. I do think it prudent to credit him with enabling these events to take place just as I did when Hosni Mubarack was driven from power in Egypt. At the time, I wrote that ultimately it was for the people of Egypt to resolve their issues, even with our government working behind the scenes to assist destabilizing it's regime. While there is still much to be done in Egypt, the actions taken by the Obama administration proved critical to its success in that country. I have held the same belief for Libya.

With regard to Libya, John McCain appears to have regrets about our Nation's failure to use MORE airpower. He refuses to credit our President with anything. This despite - as BobR detailed back in March - the President did exactly what the Senate (AND the United Nations) authorized. The resolution required that the United States have a limited role and that no troops were to be put on the ground. Obama has been "Leading from behind" -- much to the chagrin of John McCain, it appears.

It is with this background that I propose in all matters related to Libya: Senator John McCain: sit down and be quiet. He has no credibility to speak of these events unfolding in this Middle East nation. None.

Back in March, he gave an interview to CBS news, proclaiming that Qadaffi has "blood on his hands". This was after an American plane was shot down in the country. This man who is now congratulating everyone for the demise of Colonel Qadaffi beside our nation forgets that he was once one of his biggest supporters.
What McCain is apparently forgetting is that, apart from the past few weeks, the last decade has been a period of rapprochement between the United States and Libya. It started with President Bush announcing in 2003 that Gadhafi had agreed to give up his "weapons of mass destruction" programs. In 2006 Bush removed Libya from the official list of state sponsors of terrorism. In September 2008 Condoleezza Rice traveled to Libya to have talks with Gadhafi. And just a few days before the 2008 presidential election, Bush signed a settlement under which Libya compensated families of victims of Lockerbie and other '80s-era attacks.

Who else was involved in the effort to forge better ties with Gadhafi? John McCain. In August 2009 he led a delegation of senators, including fellow hawks Lindsey Graham and Joe Lieberman, on a trip to visit the Libyan leader in Tripoli. Discussed during the visit was delivery of -- get this -- American military equipment to Gadhafi (a man with American blood on his hands no less).

"We discussed the possibility of moving ahead with the provision of non-lethal defense equipment to the government of Libya," the AP quoted McCain as saying at a press conference. McCain also noted that "ties between the United States and Libya have taken a remarkable and positive turn in recent years."
How quickly the Senator seems to forget. Then there is this:



In particular:
HOST: When you talk about your hope to actually arm the rebels, how confident are we that these folks -- that (a) we know who they are and that (b) they're not connected to some terrorist organization like Al Qaeda and will not ultimately turn on the United States and U.S. allies?

MCCAIN: Well, what we know of them so far obviously are that the former justice minister and others -- and a government has been formed, part of that government. But Gadhafi is a proven quantity. The blood of Americans is on his hands because he was responsible for the bombing of Pan Am 103. He has been involved in other acts of terror. And by the way it does take time, as it did during the period of the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. But we were able to provide them with some weapons and wherewithal to cause the Russians to leave Afghanistan. So we can do it.
Salon points out: "McCain approvingly cited the arming of anti-Soviet rebels in Afghanistan in the 1980s. Those rebels, of course, were the mujahedeen, among them Osama bin Laden."

This is a man who nearly became President. I must tell you, I am glad that America made the right choice. It appears that once again, Republicans like Senator John McCain can't handle this fact: Obama's results in Libya don't compare to Bush's results in Iraq. The man who would be king has proven to have no credibility on foreign policy. Basic common decency would have been to at least give President Obama a little respect for carrying out what he has done. Reagan could not topple the man, the Bush Administration was friends with him and now, due to President Obama's Middle East policies, Qadaffi is on the brink of being gone. I'd say that deserves a little credit.

McCain may have regrets, but I do not.

and
Raine
 

23 comments (Latest Comment: 08/23/2011 01:21:26 by livingonli)
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Comment by Mondobubba on 08/22/2011 16:05:32
The demise of Gadhafi and an obnoxious talking point. Kinda goes over some of what you have said, Raine. The article doesn't mention McCain of Graham specifically.

Comment by Raine on 08/22/2011 16:15:28
Mondo -- I read that article this morning while doing my research for the blog.

The article you mentioned does not mention The King and Queen of the Senate, but yes they are intertwined.

McCain needs to sit down and Shut up

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/22/2011 16:37:36
Quote by Raine:
Mondo -- I read that article this morning while doing my research for the blog.

The article you mentioned does not mention The King and Queen of the Senate, but yes they are intertwined.

McCain needs to sit down and Shut up



Indeed he does.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 08/22/2011 16:38:24
Raine, well done.

Now, I will put my editor's hat on.

Some typos. It is Lindsey Graham -- only one y.

Also
While there is still much to be done in Egypt, the actions taken by the Obama administration proved critical to its success in that country. I have held the same belief for Egypt.


I think that you meant Libya where I have Egypt highlighted in bold.

You also use Gaddafi at the start of the blog and Qaddafi at the end. Of course, transliterating Arabic names in English is a challenge. In the 1980s, Saturday Night Live did a skit on its news segment where the anchor revealed his favorite was Qadaffy Duck.



Comment by Will in Chicago on 08/22/2011 16:45:00
Sorry, but I cannot resist.


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-8SFW9DIoyKo/TXj1Ipqfq6I/AAAAAAAAC3U/ARLFaUYRa7Y/s1600/Thats-all-folks-qadaffi-duck.jpg


Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/22/2011 17:06:44
Hmm, what the heck did I just do? I'll try it again.

Doing the "work from home" thing today with a new work laptop.

My cold is better, but still weak and tired from getting little or no sleep.

Can do everything but get to the corporate intranet, not everything is set up yet.

Comment by livingonli on 08/22/2011 17:17:33
Good day folks. Didn't sleep well this morning so I kind of feel like crap and it's back to work today. I need a long nap.

Comment by livingonli on 08/22/2011 17:17:56


Comment by livingonli on 08/22/2011 17:18:16


Comment by Mondobubba on 08/22/2011 18:05:19
w00t! "Woot!" makes the OED! So does "sexting," "retweet," & "cyberbullying."

Here is the whole skinny from the BBC.

Comment by Raine on 08/22/2011 19:00:07
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Raine, well done.

Now, I will put my editor's hat on.

Some typos. It is Lindsey Graham -- only one y.

Also
While there is still much to be done in Egypt, the actions taken by the Obama administration proved critical to its success in that country. I have held the same belief for Egypt.


I think that you meant Libya where I have Egypt highlighted in bold.

You also use Gaddafi at the start of the blog and Qaddafi at the end. Of course, transliterating Arabic names in English is a challenge. In the 1980s, Saturday Night Live did a skit on its news segment where the anchor revealed his favorite was Qadaffy Duck.

Thank you Will. I will correct that --



Comment by BobR on 08/22/2011 19:25:34
Quote by Mondobubba:
w00t! "Woot!" makes the OED! So does "sexting," "retweet," & "cyberbullying."

Here is the whole skinny from the BBC.

They're adding it as "woot" instead of "w00t" which is the correct "spelling".

Comment by Raine on 08/22/2011 20:10:44
LIV! Thank YOu!!!! I got the newspapers in the mail today!

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/22/2011 20:19:09
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Mondobubba:
w00t! "Woot!" makes the OED! So does "sexting," "retweet," & "cyberbullying."

Here is the whole skinny from the BBC.

They're adding it as "woot" instead of "w00t" which is the correct "spelling".


Hence my rendering "woot" in quotes.

Comment by Raine on 08/22/2011 20:31:27
Ok, So I posted the blog on the twitter machine this morning, and someone replied:

UTTER NONSENSE - John McCain was an unequivocal supporter of FREE Libya from day 1 - visited #Benghazi - & pushed Obama to act!




I suspect he didn't bother to read the blog....

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/22/2011 20:38:33
Alex Pareene, you snarktacular scamp! :rofl:

The article pretty much says everything you said Raine, but with a heaping helping of snottiness.

Comment by Raine on 08/22/2011 22:23:45
A must read piece. Juan Cole on the top ten myths about the Libya War.


It's wonderful and Wonky.

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/22/2011 22:59:22
Quote by Raine:
A must read piece. Juan Cole on the top ten myths about the Libya War.


It's wonderful and Wonky.



Oh great, I supply something snarky and you come back with wonk.

Comment by livingonli on 08/22/2011 23:12:08
You got your snark in my wonk!

You got your wank in my snark!

Comment by Raine on 08/22/2011 23:31:53
Quote by livingonli:
You got your snark in my wonk!

You got your wank in my snark!



Comment by Raine on 08/22/2011 23:33:12
Sorry to dissapoint.

I hope if I it will make it all better! (Wonk and Bonk!!)

Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/23/2011 00:21:57
George W Bush
The 9/11 Interview

National Geographic Channel????

WTF

Comment by livingonli on 08/23/2011 01:21:26
Quote by trojanrabbit:
George W Bush
The 9/11 Interview

National Geographic Channel????

WTF

Fox owns the channel which is a big part of that. Should be up there with the History Channel "biblical" or "alien" documentaries.