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Well that was Interesting.
Author: Raine
Date: 09/08/2011 13:08:01
I'm still trying to wrap my head around that debacle last night.
Herman Cain mumblings of 9-9-9, Ron Paul telling us a silver dime is worth 3 dollars, People cheering Rick Perry for killing people, Newt lamenting that Obama doesn't come to the Reagan library and talk to Herman Cain on how to create jobs, Perry talking Gallileo and ponzi schemes...
It was interesting that all three Governors running claimed proudly that THEY were the ones who created the most jobs... yet they also claim government doesn't create jobs -- but rather the private sector.
This was, in all my years of following politics, the most insane, incredulous, and intellectually misleading debate I have ever seen. There were NO substantial solutions presented. Well ok-- there was a few here and there, like this one, from Michelle Bachmann:
And one from Herman Cain on how to fix HilaRomneyBamacare:
Ron Paul knows how to solve security issues at the Airport:
And this was before they brought in the hispanic (surprise!) moderator to ask about immigration! Shame on NBC for such blatant race pandering....
The only one last night that sounded reasonably sane and actually heartfelt, was John Huntsman, and quite honestly, I just don't see him standing a chance to win the nomination. Last night might make for good political theatre -- but it really is a sad statement on the state of the GOP and America today. One of these people on that stage last night will be running against President Obama.
It's gonna be a long 14 months.
and 
Raine
Herman Cain mumblings of 9-9-9, Ron Paul telling us a silver dime is worth 3 dollars, People cheering Rick Perry for killing people, Newt lamenting that Obama doesn't come to the Reagan library and talk to Herman Cain on how to create jobs, Perry talking Gallileo and ponzi schemes...
It was interesting that all three Governors running claimed proudly that THEY were the ones who created the most jobs... yet they also claim government doesn't create jobs -- but rather the private sector.
This was, in all my years of following politics, the most insane, incredulous, and intellectually misleading debate I have ever seen. There were NO substantial solutions presented. Well ok-- there was a few here and there, like this one, from Michelle Bachmann:
As the nominee of the Republican Party, it will be my business to make sure that I elect also 13 more Republican senators who will help me repeal Obamacare.
And one from Herman Cain on how to fix HilaRomneyBamacare:
Here’s what I would do. Let’s patient-centered, market-driven reforms. You lose a pay loss. Some people call it tort reform. Lose a pay loss.
Ron Paul knows how to solve security issues at the Airport:
These TSA agents are abusive. Sometimes they’re accused of all kinds of sexual activities on the way they maul people at the airport. So the airlines could do that.
And this was before they brought in the hispanic (surprise!) moderator to ask about immigration! Shame on NBC for such blatant race pandering....
The only one last night that sounded reasonably sane and actually heartfelt, was John Huntsman, and quite honestly, I just don't see him standing a chance to win the nomination. Last night might make for good political theatre -- but it really is a sad statement on the state of the GOP and America today. One of these people on that stage last night will be running against President Obama.
It's gonna be a long 14 months.
and Raine
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Comment by 
Mondobubba on 09/08/2011 13:10:59
Mondobubba on 09/08/2011 13:10:59
I'm so happy that you watch so I don't have to. 
Comment by 
wickedpam on 09/08/2011 13:18:02
wickedpam on 09/08/2011 13:18:02
Morning
Running through on my way to the eye doc.
It sounds like that was quite the "show" last night, glad I stuck with Big Brother instead
Running through on my way to the eye doc.
It sounds like that was quite the "show" last night, glad I stuck with Big Brother instead
Comment by 
TriSec on 09/08/2011 13:25:17
Me too, but I was watching the Red Sox.
TriSec on 09/08/2011 13:25:17
I'm still trying to wrap my head around that debacle last night.
Me too, but I was watching the Red Sox.
Comment by 
Raine on 09/08/2011 13:28:05
Raine on 09/08/2011 13:28:05
Rick Perry on balancing the budget:
When you get a balanced budget amendment in Washington, D.C., you will finally start getting the snake's head cut off.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2011 13:28:46
Raine on 09/08/2011 13:28:46
and Michelle bachmann on the budget:
That's the problem with Washington, D.C. I've seen it all the time. That's why I've been leading on this issue for the last five years and why we can't trust the status quo in Washington, D.C.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2011 13:32:19
Raine on 09/08/2011 13:32:19
Rick Perry on Osama Bin Laden:
But one thing that I want to say that he did do that I agree with is that he maintained the - the chase and - and we took out a very bad man in the form of bin Laden, and I - and I tip my hat to him.
I give more props to those Navy SEALs that did the job, but - and the other thing this president's done, he has proven for once and for all that government spending will not create one job. Keynesian policy and Keynesian theory is now done. We'll never have to have that experiment on America again.
Comment by 
Scoopster on 09/08/2011 13:33:54
Scoopster on 09/08/2011 13:33:54
Mornin' all from soggy bottom.. 
No I'm not drooling... that's from the downpour!
I didn't even bother watching the debate last night. I just wasn't in the mood to hear a bunch of psychotic silver spoon morons who I wouldn't vote for anyways talk about absolutely nothing of importance to anyone else, except maybe the billionaire constituencies they cater to exclusively.
That Ron Paul quote is more golden than his hard-on for the gold standard btw..
No I'm not drooling... that's from the downpour!I didn't even bother watching the debate last night. I just wasn't in the mood to hear a bunch of psychotic silver spoon morons who I wouldn't vote for anyways talk about absolutely nothing of importance to anyone else, except maybe the billionaire constituencies they cater to exclusively.
That Ron Paul quote is more golden than his hard-on for the gold standard btw..
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2011 13:34:17
Raine on 09/08/2011 13:34:17
Perry on Climate change:
Well, I do agree that there is - the science is - is not settled on this. The idea that we would put Americans' economy at - at - at jeopardy based on scientific theory that's not settled yet, to me, is just - is nonsense. I mean, it - I mean - and I tell somebody, I said, just because you have a group of scientists that have stood up and said here is the fact, Galileo got outvoted for a spell.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2011 13:35:04
Raine on 09/08/2011 13:35:04
I'll let this statement from Perry speak for itself: 
Let me tell you what I find compelling, is what we've done in the state of Texas, using our ability to regulate our clean air. We cleaned up our air in the state of Texas, more than any other state in the nation during the decade. Nitrous oxide levels, down by 57 percent. Ozone levels down by 27 percent.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2011 13:42:15
Raine on 09/08/2011 13:42:15
I just love Karl Frisch.
He's saying what I have been saying -- one of these people could be President -
He's saying what I have been saying -- one of these people could be President -
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2011 13:42:56
Raine on 09/08/2011 13:42:56
Quote by TriSec:I'm still trying to wrap my head around that debacle last night.
Me too, but I was watching the Red Sox.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/08/2011 13:42:59
Yeah Rick Gallileo was "outvoted' by people like you, ignorant, reactionary, religous bigots.
Mondobubba on 09/08/2011 13:42:59
Quote by Raine:
Perry on Climate change:Well, I do agree that there is — the science is — is not settled on this. The idea that we would put Americans’ economy at — at — at jeopardy based on scientific theory that’s not settled yet, to me, is just — is nonsense. I mean, it — I mean — and I tell somebody, I said, just because you have a group of scientists that have stood up and said here is the fact, Galileo got outvoted for a spell.
Yeah Rick Gallileo was "outvoted' by people like you, ignorant, reactionary, religous bigots.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/08/2011 14:06:08
Will in Chicago on 09/08/2011 14:06:08
Good morning, bloggers!!
I hope that everyone is doing well. I am glad to be back online after my computer's motherboard died and I ended up getting a lap top to replace it.
I did not listen to the debate, as I was listening to Left in Dixie last night. The show had good interviews and discussions on LGBT issues. Now, I did listen to Cary Harrison, David Bender, Chris Bliss, Jeff Fariasand, Bily Foster (Bily, as some may remember used to be the tech guy for the late lamented Nova M Radio network) discuss the debate over at Go Harrison. The hosts were intelligent, unlike many of the GOP candidates whose personal vision for America reminds me of this quote from Macbeth: "A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury and signifying nothing."
In some sad news close to home, my first cousin George -- Uncle George as he is five years younger than my dad would be -- learned he has pancreatic cancer. I have to call him to find out if he has a clearer picture of his prognosis.
I will be back for a little bit, but I have some subbing later. Be well and be strong. I really missed all of you
I hope that everyone is doing well. I am glad to be back online after my computer's motherboard died and I ended up getting a lap top to replace it.
I did not listen to the debate, as I was listening to Left in Dixie last night. The show had good interviews and discussions on LGBT issues. Now, I did listen to Cary Harrison, David Bender, Chris Bliss, Jeff Fariasand, Bily Foster (Bily, as some may remember used to be the tech guy for the late lamented Nova M Radio network) discuss the debate over at Go Harrison. The hosts were intelligent, unlike many of the GOP candidates whose personal vision for America reminds me of this quote from Macbeth: "A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury and signifying nothing."
In some sad news close to home, my first cousin George -- Uncle George as he is five years younger than my dad would be -- learned he has pancreatic cancer. I have to call him to find out if he has a clearer picture of his prognosis.
I will be back for a little bit, but I have some subbing later. Be well and be strong. I really missed all of you
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2011 14:06:14
Raine on 09/08/2011 14:06:14
WILKES-BARRE, Pa. (AP) - Officials call for mandatory evacuation of more than 100,000 people in northeastern Pa.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2011 14:09:55
Raine on 09/08/2011 14:09:55
Welcome back Will! I;m glad you are ok.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/08/2011 14:13:35
That isn't that far from SSG and family. :worried:
Mondobubba on 09/08/2011 14:13:35
Quote by Raine:WILKES-BARRE, Pa. (AP) - Officials call for mandatory evacuation of more than 100,000 people in northeastern Pa.
That isn't that far from SSG and family. :worried:
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2011 14:14:54
here is more information.
Raine on 09/08/2011 14:14:54
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:WILKES-BARRE, Pa. (AP) - Officials call for mandatory evacuation of more than 100,000 people in northeastern Pa.
That isn't that far from SSG and family. :worried:
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2011 14:17:38
Raine on 09/08/2011 14:17:38
SSG girl is well over 60 miles away from there. I don't think she lives near the Susquehanna River. I think she is alright.
Comment by Scoopster on 09/08/2011 14:36:47
Welcome back to the fold Will! 
Scoopster on 09/08/2011 14:36:47
Welcome back to the fold Will!
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/08/2011 14:38:50
Yup they live a valley over. Lehigh Valley. Not worried any longer. Thanks for the info.
Mondobubba on 09/08/2011 14:38:50
Quote by Raine:here is more information.Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:WILKES-BARRE, Pa. (AP) - Officials call for mandatory evacuation of more than 100,000 people in northeastern Pa.
That isn't that far from SSG and family. :worried:
Yup they live a valley over. Lehigh Valley. Not worried any longer. Thanks for the info.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/08/2011 14:40:31
It is good to be here.
I think that as we see more severe weather events, the global warming deniers will look more irrational. I am worried for my friends out east.
Will in Chicago on 09/08/2011 14:40:31
Quote by Scoopster:
It is good to be here.
I think that as we see more severe weather events, the global warming deniers will look more irrational. I am worried for my friends out east.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2011 14:52:30
Raine on 09/08/2011 14:52:30
This is hilarious take on the debate. -- and when I say hilarious -- I mean in a wonky washingtonian way.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/08/2011 15:00:15
Mondobubba on 09/08/2011 15:00:15
I was watching Nova last night. The episode was called "Engineering Ground Zero," which was obviously about the goings on with the 9/11 memorial and 1 WTC. As I was watching it, it hit me that everybody involved in the project from the architects of the memorial and the building down through the project managers on site, to the Mohawk high steel workers, to the construction laborers are taking more care than they ever have on any construction project they have ever been involved with previously. 1WTC might be the most over-engineer high rise office building ever constructed.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2011 15:02:43
Raine on 09/08/2011 15:02:43
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2011 15:13:18
If I can find the video, I will post the link, but in the meantime, Read this. It was a segment on CBS Sunday Morning that I found very interesting about the building itself.
Raine on 09/08/2011 15:13:18
Quote by Mondobubba:
I was watching Nova last night. The episode was called "Engineering Ground Zero," which was obviously about the goings on with the 9/11 memorial and 1 WTC. As I was watching it, it hit me that everybody involved in the project from the architects of the memorial and the building down through the project managers on site, to the Mohawk high steel workers, to the construction laborers are taking more care than they ever have on any construction project they have ever been involved with previously. 1WTC might be the most over-engineer high rise office building ever constructed.
If I can find the video, I will post the link, but in the meantime, Read this. It was a segment on CBS Sunday Morning that I found very interesting about the building itself.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2011 15:32:02
Wow.
I think tha tis pretty good to see -- didn't you run into a problem over there a few years ago for some of that pack crap?
Raine on 09/08/2011 15:32:02
Quote by Scoopster:
Oooooh boy... Kos has decided to take out the trash.
I think tha tis pretty good to see -- didn't you run into a problem over there a few years ago for some of that pack crap?
Comment by Scoopster on 09/08/2011 15:32:15
Scoopster on 09/08/2011 15:32:15
Comment by Scoopster on 09/08/2011 15:35:31
Actually yes.. I still dunno why it got locked either. I noticed at the end he mentioned that some older banned accounts may be reinstated, so I'm gonna ask him to unlock it.
Scoopster on 09/08/2011 15:35:31
Quote by Raine:Wow.Quote by Scoopster:
Oooooh boy... Kos has decided to take out the trash.
I think tha tis pretty good to see -- didn't you run into a problem over there a few years ago for some of that pack crap?
Actually yes.. I still dunno why it got locked either. I noticed at the end he mentioned that some older banned accounts may be reinstated, so I'm gonna ask him to unlock it.
Comment by 
livingonli on 09/08/2011 15:43:51
livingonli on 09/08/2011 15:43:51
Good morning everyone.
I am actually at the salt mine already. I have an early shift today since I am doing the make-up game in the O's-Yankees series today on MASN 2 which has to play come hell or high water which could be interesting if it rains again in Baltimore. I didn't sleep very well last night because I tried to get to bed earlier than usual and I've gotten too used to going to bed so late. Well, at least I got to listen to John filling in with Auntie Elayne on the way in.
I am actually at the salt mine already. I have an early shift today since I am doing the make-up game in the O's-Yankees series today on MASN 2 which has to play come hell or high water which could be interesting if it rains again in Baltimore. I didn't sleep very well last night because I tried to get to bed earlier than usual and I've gotten too used to going to bed so late. Well, at least I got to listen to John filling in with Auntie Elayne on the way in.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2011 15:57:41
I thought she lived near King of Prussia?
wickedpam on 09/08/2011 15:57:41
Quote by Raine:here is more information.Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:WILKES-BARRE, Pa. (AP) - Officials call for mandatory evacuation of more than 100,000 people in northeastern Pa.
That isn't that far from SSG and family. :worried:
I thought she lived near King of Prussia?
Comment by TriSec on 09/08/2011 16:04:00
TriSec on 09/08/2011 16:04:00
Hey gang, wasn't old friend Grumpyman in the Wilkes-Barre area?
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2011 16:08:29
I know he was in PA, close to SSG but not sure where.
Looking at maps, I may have to call some fam in York. They're probably fine but the Susquehanna is between them and Lancaster
wickedpam on 09/08/2011 16:08:29
Quote by TriSec:
Hey gang, wasn't old friend Grumpyman in the Wilkes-Barre area?
I know he was in PA, close to SSG but not sure where.
Looking at maps, I may have to call some fam in York. They're probably fine but the Susquehanna is between them and Lancaster
Comment by 
BobR on 09/08/2011 16:11:23
I hope it's drunk and not rabid.
BobR on 09/08/2011 16:11:23
Quote by Raine:
Seemingly drunk Swedish moose found stuck in tree It's always those damn apples...
I hope it's drunk and not rabid.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/08/2011 16:49:21
Mondobubba on 09/08/2011 16:49:21
I am so exited that Smile by The Beach Boys is being released I am wetting myself like a poorly house broken spaniel puppy.
Comment by Scoopster on 09/08/2011 17:06:03
Scoopster on 09/08/2011 17:06:03
Bachmann to open her yap after Obama's address tonight.
This article describes her as "filling a void". You can't fill a void with another friggin' void!
This article describes her as "filling a void". You can't fill a void with another friggin' void!
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/08/2011 17:07:37
Yeah, that is that whole multiplying any number by zero thing in action. It might be an opportunity for Yaweh to tweet la Bachmann.
Mondobubba on 09/08/2011 17:07:37
Quote by Scoopster:
Bachmann to open her yap after Obama's address tonight.
This article describes her as "filling a void". You can't fill a void with another friggin' void!
Yeah, that is that whole multiplying any number by zero thing in action. It might be an opportunity for Yaweh to tweet la Bachmann.
Comment by Scoopster on 09/08/2011 17:17:13
Scoopster on 09/08/2011 17:17:13
Picketing longshoremen storm port terminal in WA, sabotage trains
This one's a bit upsetting.. it's local union workers vs. lower-wage contracted union workers brought in by the company. Damn divide & conquer tactics.
This one's a bit upsetting.. it's local union workers vs. lower-wage contracted union workers brought in by the company. Damn divide & conquer tactics.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/08/2011 17:26:38
Mondobubba on 09/08/2011 17:26:38
On this day in history, The Attica riot started, 1971
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/08/2011 17:43:00
Mondobubba on 09/08/2011 17:43:00
A big ol' birthday shout out to:
Cardinal Richelieu
William Bligh
Frank Chance (Tinker, Evers to Chance fame)
Elvin Jones
Frank Lucas (American Gangster)
Ron McDole (Former Washington Redskin/My counsin's neighbor)
Otis Redding
Cardinal Richelieu
William Bligh
Frank Chance (Tinker, Evers to Chance fame)
Elvin Jones
Frank Lucas (American Gangster)
Ron McDole (Former Washington Redskin/My counsin's neighbor)
Otis Redding
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2011 17:45:57
HE moved from Wilkes-Barre to near Bethlehem.
I miss Grump an awful lot.
Raine on 09/08/2011 17:45:57
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by TriSec:
Hey gang, wasn't old friend Grumpyman in the Wilkes-Barre area?
I know he was in PA, close to SSG but not sure where.
Looking at maps, I may have to call some fam in York. They're probably fine but the Susquehanna is between them and Lancaster
I miss Grump an awful lot.
Comment by BobR on 09/08/2011 17:46:11
BobR on 09/08/2011 17:46:11
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2011 17:46:32
Raine on 09/08/2011 17:46:32
Mala-- you should listen to the weather reports (flash flooding etc) before you head home today.
Comment by Scoopster on 09/08/2011 17:47:19
Scoopster on 09/08/2011 17:47:19
Comment by BobR on 09/08/2011 17:47:24
Where exactly did you exit? You certainly must be excited to be so exited!
BobR on 09/08/2011 17:47:24
Quote by Mondobubba:
I am so exited that Smile by The Beach Boys is being released I am wetting myself like a poorly house broken spaniel puppy.
Where exactly did you exit? You certainly must be excited to be so exited!
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2011 17:47:43
The Capitol Rotunda is set to be open to the press for ANY and ALL representatives to provide a rebuttal, Tonite.
Raine on 09/08/2011 17:47:43
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Scoopster:
Bachmann to open her yap after Obama's address tonight.
This article describes her as "filling a void". You can't fill a void with another friggin' void!
Yeah, that is that whole multiplying any number by zero thing in action. It might be an opportunity for Yaweh to tweet la Bachmann.
The Capitol Rotunda is set to be open to the press for ANY and ALL representatives to provide a rebuttal, Tonite.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/08/2011 17:48:16
Mondobubba on 09/08/2011 17:48:16
Yesterday in Nerd Hischtory: Star Trek premiers in 1966. :
