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Pathetic.
Author: Raine    Date: 11/10/2011 13:33:47

Against my better judgement, I actually watched most of that mess of debate last night. I really must say that aside from the terrible gaffe from Rick Perry and the inappropriate comment from Herman Cain about minority leader Pelsoi, the debate was full of absolutely no substance. It was insulting to the American public to be honest with you. I may not agree with the politics of the people on stage last night, but I do have the expectation that they at least know what they are talking about. No substance. It was over an hour of simplistic sound bites and campaign zingers.

Actaully, I take that back -- there was a lot of substance -- it was all crap.

The NYT did some fact checking on a few of the topics discussed, and basically -- There were a lot of mistruths. From regulations of both business & the housing market to personal & corporate taxes there was misinformation and distortion.

I will honestly go out on a limb here and say that this debate was so awful that Mitt Romney looked presidential. That isn't saying much -- he has no ideas on how to deal with foreign policy or how to fix the housing market. Unprofessional and childish is what it was. These people are not Candidates; These are all people who just want a reason to bitch about Obama. It reminded of a badly managed It was like watching a 10th grade debate club team pretending they are running for class president.

I weep for my country if this is the caliber of people they truly want to be the Commander in Chief of the United States.

I'll probably write something better later. I'm feeling generally displeased in general -- from the reaction at Penn State regarding the abuse of children to how women are being treated in this nation -- I'm just disgusted.

I can't even find the words to describe the heartbreak of this story. As I said yesterday -- It makes what happened at Arlington pale in comparison.

Do you know what they are doing with the unclaimed and unidentifiable remains remains of those that died on September 11, 2001? They are creating a tomb. Seems like a somber way to pay respect to those killed that day... Right?

So after that day, we went to war. We started having war casualties. Men and women in our armed forces died.

These soldiers were thrown in a landfill. From 2003 until 2008 unidentifiable remains of those that died while serving this nation were thrown in a landfill.

And Herman Cain pretends that he is a victim.

and

Raine
 

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Comment by Mondobubba on 11/10/2011 13:54:24
I second your sentiments, Raine. I need to vent on Paterno for a moment. Beloved institution or not, he enable the rape of boys by his inaction. From the view of the trustees his lack of action has exposed the university to all sorts of legal action. They did the right thing to fire his ass.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/10/2011 13:56:00
Morning

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/10/2011 13:57:35
The sense of dread is back.

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/10/2011 13:59:20
No that isn't solicitation for kitten pictures.

Comment by Raine on 11/10/2011 14:03:32
Quote by Mondobubba:
No that isn't solicitation for kitten pictures.
ah, I guess puppies are out too?




Comment by wickedpam on 11/10/2011 14:04:32
Quote by Mondobubba:
No that isn't solicitation for kitten pictures.



killjoy

Comment by Raine on 11/10/2011 14:05:36
On the bright side, today is a binary day!

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/10/2011 14:06:27
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
No that isn't solicitation for kitten pictures.
ah, I guess puppies are out too?





Puppies are fine. The two of busting on me is find. it makes me feel less loney which is at the heart of why I am feeling this way.

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/10/2011 14:09:01
Quote by Raine:
On the bright side, today is a binary day!



Indeed it is and tomorrow is as well. More importantly tomorrow is:



Nigel Tufnel Day!

Comment by Raine on 11/10/2011 14:12:50
Quote by Mondobubba:
Puppies are fine. The two of busting on me is find. it makes me feel less loney which is at the heart of why I am feeling this way.


You know, Mondo -- We are having thanksgiving dinner up here. There is room for you at our table.

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/10/2011 14:13:51


Comment by Raine on 11/10/2011 14:22:34


Bob and my friend James posted this this morning on the Facecrack It made me smile --

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/10/2011 14:30:07
Quote by Raine:


Bob and my friend James posted this this morning on the Facecrack It made me smile --



:Mrs. Miller: Oh Dear. Poor Rick. I feel a little sorry for him.

Comment by Raine on 11/10/2011 14:31:09
Rick Santorum has some 'splainin' to do.


Rick Santorum Sponsored Honor for Accused PSU Coach Jerry Sandusky

From the original link:
Since the scandal broke into the news, Santorum has been circumspect in his comments about it. He has said he does not know Sandusky personally.

And indeed, the guy has been a top philanthropist for a long time, routinely honored by political figures.

On Tuesday, Santorum told ABC News that Paterno deserved the benefit of the doubt because he has “served in such distinction for all those years.” Santorum also said: “Look, I pray and hope that he (Paterno) didn’t do anything he shouldn’t have done, but it certainly looks horrible for the university, horrible for the football program and obviously people were fired, should be fired,” Santorum told ABC News.


Comment by Raine on 11/10/2011 14:34:58
BTW, from the link I put in today blog comes this prescient comment:
With woman after woman coming forward to charge him with sexual harassment, calling the previous Speaker of the House "Princess Nancy" may have not been Cain's best phrasing to show he has respect for professional women.
This is why I was so pissed at Cain last night.



Comment by Raine on 11/10/2011 14:42:21
Rick Perry says that the fact that he couldn't remember the departments who wanted to eliminate was proof that Government was too big.

Really, you can look it up.

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/10/2011 14:42:45
Stop Judging the Duggers. Respectfully, I disagree. This is not an issue of reproductive freedom.

PS: Vagina is not a clown car.

Comment by Raine on 11/10/2011 14:51:33
Quote by Mondobubba:
Stop Judging the Duggers. Respectfully, I disagree. This is not an issue of reproductive freedom.

PS: Vagina is not a clown car.
With reproductive choice comes with reproductive RESPONSIBILITY.

It's false equivalency -- again. That the author is suggesting this is the other side is reproductive choice -- and yet, women aren't supposed to 'just get an abortion' if they 'just feel like it'

This thesis is justifying irresponsibility. It would not be any different if I were to say a woman who goes around having abortions as a way of birth control is justified.




Comment by wickedpam on 11/10/2011 14:57:33
So I was playing around on Salary.com

Total Compensation includes base salary, bonuses, Social security, 401K/403b, pension, healthcare, time off and in the case of specific people it includes stock options

Salary/Total Compensation
High School Teacher $54,042.00/$72,225.00
Fire Fighter $41,597.00/$60,940.00
Police Officer $50,089.00/ $72,052.00
Plumber $47,557.00/ $68,965.00
Auto Mechanic $43,453.00/ $63,732.00
Electician $49,511.00/ $72,068.00
CEO $707,612.00/ $1,336,225.00
Lloyd Blankfien (CEO GOldMan Sachs) $600,000.00/ $14,114,080.00
John G. Stumpf (CEO Wells Fargo) $3,239,847.00/ $17,568,387.00
James Dimon (CEO JP Morgon Chase) $1,000,000.00/ $20,776,324.00
Michael Duke (CEO Walmart) $1,232,670.00/ $18,213,659.00
Rex Tillerson (CEO Exxon Mobile) $2,207,000.00/ $21,476,296.00


Comment by BobR on 11/10/2011 15:00:42
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:


Bob and my friend James posted this this morning on the Facecrack It made me smile --



:Mrs. Miller: Oh Dear. Poor Rick. I feel a little sorry for him.

Alas poor Rick - I knew him well... :Shakespeare:

Comment by Raine on 11/10/2011 15:01:19
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Stop Judging the Duggers. Respectfully, I disagree. This is not an issue of reproductive freedom.

PS: Vagina is not a clown car.
With reproductive choice comes with reproductive RESPONSIBILITY.

It's false equivalency -- again. That the author is suggesting this is the other side is reproductive choice -- and yet, women aren't supposed to 'just get an abortion' if they 'just feel like it'

This thesis is justifying irresponsibility. It would not be any different if I were to say a woman who goes around having abortions as a way of birth control is justified.



For example... look at this part of the article:
They’ve made choices few of us would, but they’ve determined to accept them with as much grace and gratitude as they can muster. Because this is what reproductive freedom and choice look like. And as long as there’s still spring in Michelle’s uterus, they’re going to keep going – 20 and counting.


We could be talking about having abortions here just as easily, and that would probably piss people off.

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/10/2011 15:02:04
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Stop Judging the Duggers. Respectfully, I disagree. This is not an issue of reproductive freedom.

PS: Vagina is not a clown car.
With reproductive choice comes with reproductive RESPONSIBILITY.

It's false equivalency -- again. That the author is suggesting this is the other side is reproductive choice -- and yet, women aren't supposed to 'just get an abortion' if they 'just feel like it'

This thesis is justifying irresponsibility. It would not be any different if I were to say a woman who goes around having abortions as a way of birth control is justified.






Comment by Raine on 11/10/2011 15:02:15
Quote by wickedpam:
So I was playing around on Salary.com

Total Compensation includes base salary, bonuses, Social security, 401K/403b, pension, healthcare, time off and in the case of specific people it includes stock options

Salary/Total Compensation
High School Teacher $54,042.00/$72,225.00
Fire Fighter $41,597.00/$60,940.00
Police Officer $50,089.00/ $72,052.00
Plumber $47,557.00/ $68,965.00
Auto Mechanic $43,453.00/ $63,732.00
Electician $49,511.00/ $72,068.00
CEO $707,612.00/ $1,336,225.00
Lloyd Blankfien (CEO GOldMan Sachs) $600,000.00/ $14,114,080.00
John G. Stumpf (CEO Wells Fargo) $3,239,847.00/ $17,568,387.00
James Dimon (CEO JP Morgon Chase) $1,000,000.00/ $20,776,324.00
Michael Duke (CEO Walmart) $1,232,670.00/ $18,213,659.00
Rex Tillerson (CEO Exxon Mobile) $2,207,000.00/ $21,476,296.00



That's obscene.

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/10/2011 15:04:36
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Stop Judging the Duggers. Respectfully, I disagree. This is not an issue of reproductive freedom.

PS: Vagina is not a clown car.
With reproductive choice comes with reproductive RESPONSIBILITY.

It's false equivalency -- again. That the author is suggesting this is the other side is reproductive choice -- and yet, women aren't supposed to 'just get an abortion' if they 'just feel like it'

This thesis is justifying irresponsibility. It would not be any different if I were to say a woman who goes around having abortions as a way of birth control is justified.



For example... look at this part of the article:
They’ve made choices few of us would, but they’ve determined to accept them with as much grace and gratitude as they can muster. Because this is what reproductive freedom and choice look like. And as long as there’s still spring in Michelle’s uterus, they’re going to keep going – 20 and counting.


We could be talking about having abortions here just as easily, and that would probably piss people off.


Mrs. Mondo (who had her own fertility issues) would have called this baby greed.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/10/2011 15:05:58
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
So I was playing around on Salary.com

Total Compensation includes base salary, bonuses, Social security, 401K/403b, pension, healthcare, time off and in the case of specific people it includes stock options

Salary/Total Compensation
High School Teacher $54,042.00/$72,225.00
Fire Fighter $41,597.00/$60,940.00
Police Officer $50,089.00/ $72,052.00
Plumber $47,557.00/ $68,965.00
Auto Mechanic $43,453.00/ $63,732.00
Electician $49,511.00/ $72,068.00
CEO $707,612.00/ $1,336,225.00
Lloyd Blankfien (CEO GOldMan Sachs) $600,000.00/ $14,114,080.00
John G. Stumpf (CEO Wells Fargo) $3,239,847.00/ $17,568,387.00
James Dimon (CEO JP Morgon Chase) $1,000,000.00/ $20,776,324.00
Michael Duke (CEO Walmart) $1,232,670.00/ $18,213,659.00
Rex Tillerson (CEO Exxon Mobile) $2,207,000.00/ $21,476,296.00



That's obscene.



Isn't it? I just started looking at national averages of people who touch our lives daily and decided to compare them with the CEOs who's companies touch our lives

Comment by Raine on 11/10/2011 15:19:53
Quote by Mondobubba:
Mrs. Mondo (who had her own fertility issues) would have called this baby greed.
She would have been correct.

I think you know my feeling about this by now -- It's amazing -- I just think that justifying irresponsibility as a reproductive choice is dishonest.

the Duggar's was 3 months premature. That child was less than 2 pounds when born.



I have a very dear friend who is deeply religious, her spirituality inspires me, to be truthfully honest. She struggled dearly to have a child. She DOES give thanks to god for her 2 daughters. She does not give god credit for her pregnancies --

But she also recognizes the fact that she lost MANY babies (what you and I call a miscarriage, she chooses to call babies, I respect that and completely understand) on her journey to becoming a mother. She says she was blessed to have a second child when she didn't expect to be able to carry the fetus.

In the end I think she respected her body as well as her belief in god. I DO question A woman who is on her way to a 20th child. Call me a judger, fine -- I'm judging.






Comment by Mondobubba on 11/10/2011 15:25:43
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Mrs. Mondo (who had her own fertility issues) would have called this baby greed.
She would have been correct.

I think you know my feeling about this by now -- It's amazing -- I just think that justifying irresponsibility as a reproductive choice is dishonest.

the Duggar's was 3 months premature. That child was less than 2 pounds when born.



I have a very dear friend who is deeply religious, her spirituality inspires me, to be truthfully honest. She struggled dearly to have a child. She DOES give thanks to god for her 2 daughters. She does not give god credit for her pregnancies --

But she also recognizes the fact that she lost MANY babies (what you and I call a miscarriage, she chooses to call babies, I respect that and completely understand) on her journey to becoming a mother. She says she was blessed to have a second child when she didn't expect to be able to carry the fetus.

In the end I think she respected her body as well as her belief in god. I DO question A woman who is on her way to a 20th child. Call me a judger, fine -- I'm judging.







if you google "quiverfull" you will find out just how creepy and sexist the movement is.

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/10/2011 15:42:41
Comment by Raine on 11/10/2011 15:52:24
Quote by Mondobubba:

if you google "quiverfull" you will find out just how creepy and sexist the movement is.
UGH.

This isn't much different than the reasoning behind the FLDS if you ask me.


Comment by Raine on 11/10/2011 15:54:42
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quiverfull and the Duggers

Double ugh.



Comment by Scoopster on 11/10/2011 16:01:58
Mornin' all..

Wheeee web development is fun...

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/10/2011 16:10:01
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:

if you google "quiverfull" you will find out just how creepy and sexist the movement is.
UGH.

This isn't much different than the reasoning behind the FLDS if you ask me.


Minus the polygamy, yeah.

Comment by Raine on 11/10/2011 16:27:17
Quote by Mondobubba:

Minus the polygamy, yeah.
At least with the polygamy less wombs are used for the same purpose.



Comment by wickedpam on 11/10/2011 16:27:22
Kennedy? Really?

Comment by wickedpam on 11/10/2011 16:27:59
I thought the subject was handled very well

Comment by Raine on 11/10/2011 16:28:48
Quote by wickedpam:
Kennedy? Really?

Really. I just came back from saying goodbye to my friend across the street to that lovely interchange.

(she another one moving. At least it's only .8 a mile away. )

Comment by wickedpam on 11/10/2011 16:31:18
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Kennedy? Really?

Really. I just came back from saying goodbye to my friend across the street to that lovely interchange.

(she another one moving. At least it's only .8 a mile away. )



Is that the one with giant puppy?

Comment by Raine on 11/10/2011 16:34:19
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Kennedy? Really?

Really. I just came back from saying goodbye to my friend across the street to that lovely interchange.

(she another one moving. At least it's only .8 a mile away. )



Is that the one with giant puppy?
YES!

And that puppy is TWICE as big now!


Comment by Mondobubba on 11/10/2011 16:35:33
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:

Minus the polygamy, yeah.
At least with the polygamy less wombs are used for the same purpose.




Yeah pretty much.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/10/2011 16:38:03
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Kennedy? Really?

Really. I just came back from saying goodbye to my friend across the street to that lovely interchange.

(she another one moving. At least it's only .8 a mile away. )



Is that the one with giant puppy?
YES!

And that puppy is TWICE as big now!



I'm guessing she is going to a bigger house then

Comment by Raine on 11/10/2011 16:40:20
If you read something that concerns you -- SAY SOMETHING.


This story, as well as the entire blog, saddens me. Gawker makes a really good point.


Comment by Raine on 11/10/2011 16:42:28
Quote by wickedpam:

I'm guessing she is going to a bigger house then
yes.

Her last dog was just as big. he went away last december. She wanted a house that didn't have three floors.



Comment by TriSec on 11/10/2011 16:44:01
If the Duggars make you sick, don't read this then.

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/10/2011 16:58:31
You know, there are far too many people in the world who think email is the be all and end of communications? Frankly, in some ways email sucks rhinos for nickel and gives change. It is really best suited to short communications rather than long missives. Many people miss this point. If something is really important, call. Don't use email. Calling gets the urgency across much better.

Mondo now releases the blog to regular chatter about the womb of Michelle Dugger.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/10/2011 17:03:29
don't you love it when someone who is not you boss acts like your boss?

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/10/2011 17:09:54
Quote by wickedpam:
don't you love it when someone who is not you boss acts like your boss?



Oh yeah! They are my favorite!

Comment by Raine on 11/10/2011 17:10:46
Quote by wickedpam:
don't you love it when someone who is not you boss acts like your boss?


When did your company hire Herb Cain?


Comment by wickedpam on 11/10/2011 17:12:04
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
don't you love it when someone who is not you boss acts like your boss?



Oh yeah! They are my favorite!



I don't think she likes my new boss (who I'm still getting used to but he seems okay so far ) so I think she's trying to pull power trips over the dumbest crap

Comment by wickedpam on 11/10/2011 17:12:23
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
don't you love it when someone who is not you boss acts like your boss?


When did your company hire Herb Cain?





Comment by Raine on 11/10/2011 17:12:46
Quote by TriSec:
If the Duggars make you sick, don't read this then.


And this further proves my point about reproductive responsibility.

I am going to be a bit sanctimonious here. I KNEW I was not in a position to have a baby. So I didn't.

I never killed a person.


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