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Ron Paul: Anti-War candidate? Constitutionalist?
Author: Raine    Date: 01/13/2012 00:00:20

Ron Paul is a candidate that inspires fervent adulation from his dedicated followers. The two most common narratives they repeat is that he is anti-war, and that he is a strict constitutionalist. I propose he is neither. His words & his legislative record prove quite contrary to what his supporters say he represents.

We can begin with the invasion of Afghanistan. One would expect a person who is anti-war to vote against legislation that authorizes a non-war military action against another country. However, Ron Paul voted FOR the invasion of Afghanistan. You can read it all right here. Let me restate this fact: Ron Paul voted in favor of the invasion of Afghanistan. I don't care what his staffers say in hindsight. He voted to invade. That is on his congressional record. He voted to invade Afghanistan. Would you like more proof? This is the Ron Paul vote on the very first Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF). It's dated September 14, 2001. Let me make this clear: AMUF is this:
To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against those responsible for the recent attacks launched against the United States.

Whereas, on September 11, 2001, acts of treacherous violence were committed against the United States and its citizens; and

Whereas, such acts render it both necessary and appropriate that the United States exercise its rights to self-defense and to protect United States citizens both at home and abroad; and

Whereas, in light of the threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States posed by these grave acts of violence; and

Whereas, such acts continue to pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States; and

Whereas, the President has authority under the Constitution to take action to deter and prevent acts of international terrorism against the United States: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled.

Several years later in 2007, Ron Paul voted against a date for the Iraq war pullout. From the NYT, March, 2007.
Two Republicans voted for the measure: Representative Wayne Gilchrest of Maryland, a former Marine Corps officer who was wounded in Vietnam, and Walter B. Jones of North Carolina, who called for a withdrawal nearly two years ago.

But the rest of the Republican caucus objected to the legislation on substance and principle. Several lawmakers derided the total of nearly $24 billion in domestic spending 'benefiting spinach growers and shrimp fishermen and peanut storage, among others' that Democrats put into the bill to make it more palatable to its members.
This is the roll call on that vote. You will note, Paul is listed under the Nays. While I understand Paul supporters want to promote the intent of Ron Paul, the reality is that he voted against a date for an Iraq war pullout date. Not very anti-war, in my opinion.

That very same year, he also proposed legislation to essentially pass off the responsibility of Congress to declare war, by giving the Executive branch (then occupied by George W. Bush) the power to essentially create and control private armies:
Marque and Reprisal Act of 2007 - Authorizes and requests the President to issue letters of marque and reprisal to commission privately armed and equipped persons and entities to seize outside of the United States the person and property of Osama bin Laden, of any al Qaeda co-conspirator, and any conspirator with Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda who are responsible for the air piratical aggressions against the United States on September 11, 2001, and for any planned similar acts or acts of war against the United States in the future.

States that no letter of marque and reprisal shall be issued without the posting of a security bond in such amount as the President determines sufficient to ensure the letter's execution.
(Source - I bold-faced the information above)

In my opinion there is a difference between being anti-war and being for privatizing war-like activities. The latter, it appears, is what Candidate Ron Paul -- oft cited as an anti-war candidate-- was suggesting.

Now compare the oft-repeated claim that he is anti-war against these votes and proposed legislation. In fact, compare that against this video where a senior campaign advisor says that Ron Paul is not anti-war:



All the while, Ron Paul allows people to misrepresent his record. He has NEVER called out his supporters for misrepresenting his legislative record. He voted to give the Executive office MORE power, voted against withdrawing from Iraq and voted FOR invading Afghanistan. These votes are not exactly anti-war, and - to be very honest - do not fall under the umbrella of small government. Have I mentioned that he did not cast a vote during the final vote on the 2012 NDAA? If he was so anti-war, why didn't he show up to vote?

At this point I hope you see where I am headed. These are not the votes of an anti-war candidate. This is not a record of an anti-war candidate. This man is not pure, and I understand that. Politics in DC is not an easy thing. I do vehementy disagree with his ideology... But he certainly isn't an anti-war candidate. When the time came for him to put his vote where his supposed ideology was, he either went along with the crowd or took the coward's way out and didn't vote at all.

He also is not a strict constitutionalist, despite what his followers would have you believe. I wrote of this earlier. I would put forward that Ron Paul is an opportunist. I don't blame him for that - he is a politician. I don't hate politicians. I like discussing policy positions. In the interest of full disclosure, I am not afraid to say that I am a Democrat and a liberal. I don't object to Ron Paul as a legislator or as a politician, to be honest. I disagree with his policies. This should not come as a surprise from a card-carrying Democrat.

On the subject of "strict constitutionalism", Ron Paul appears to be more than happy to let his supporters believe one idea while he votes in ways that help his political career. He proposed legislation to give the Executive office more military force (with the caveat of privatization) and thus, more power. He's not quite the civil libertarian many claim him to be. One of the most obvious points is that he is anti-choice:
He has introduced legislation that defines life as beginning at conception in the years 2005, 2007, 2009, and 2011. However, he believes regulation of medical decisions about maternal or fetal health is "best handled at the state level"
How does allowing for ANY government dictating what a woman can do and achieve with her body square with Ron Paul's version of libertarianism and freedom? Ron Paul introduced this legislation. He appears to want make a woman's choice to have access to reproductive services more difficult. How can one deem life as beginning at contraception and then say it should be left to the states also be for personal liberty? States, in his opinion, can dictate this as a matter of rights granted under the 10th amendment. But is that true? I once again point you to this post regarding the 9th amendment. A strict constitutionalist would understand that this idea of reproductive choice is not a states' rights issue.

I would like for government to ensure that my choice is legal and safe. I don't want to have to go to New York because my home state has decided that I don'tt have the right to choose how I reproduce. I want the federal government to allow for those rights to happen under the Supremacy Clause. I think that this is an important point. I believe that this goes straight to giving women a choice with regard to her own reproduction -- not government. Government should protect rights of choice. It would appear to me that Dr. Paul has conflicting thoughts with his statements. He's actually advocating for government to decide what rights women can have. What he doesn't like to say is that he wants the states to dictate those rights. This is in direct conflict with what the Constitution and standing law has so far deemed otherwise. It appears he doesn't like the United States federal governance to get in the way of his beliefs. Last time I checked-- we are supposed to be the United States of America, one nation, promoting liberty and justice for all. There is a very real reason for implementing the idea of federal law trumping state law. I mentioned the Supremacy Clause for a reason: many people forget about it.
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.
Want a quicker definition? Any federal law - even a regulation of a federal agency - trumps any conflicting state law. We live in murky times. I'd like to point this out, from the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution: "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States" The very idea that he would desire to leave such reproductive rights to the states even in the face of the constitution saying otherwise says to me that he does not appear to be a strict constitutionalist -- as many of his supporters claim he is.

If he is really for personal liberty, (as I have heard him proclaim many times) he would not introduce legislation that restricts a women's right of reproductive choice. It is that simple. Liberty for all was not meant to exclude more than 51% of the population of the United States of America.

It's really quite simple: Anti-War Candidates do not vote for war... Libertarians should not introduce legislation giving the executive branch MORE powers, nor limit the rights of women. It seems to me that his supporters don't want to acknowledge this truth -- it doesn't fit their personal narrative for the candidate they want to support. The truth they don't want to face is that he is very much in favor of privatizing wars. He is/was so much in favor of it, he was willing to give a co-equal branch of government more powers to do so.

How is that Anti-war? How do these stances make one a strict constitutionalist? They don't - and he isn't.

and

Raine
(edited by Bobber)
 

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Comment by livingonli on 01/13/2012 02:40:51
PETA should protest Pets with Newt as cruelty to animals.

Comment by BobR on 01/13/2012 14:08:38
Raine wrote this fantastic blog last night, and I am not inspired this morning, so we'll let this one be our post for today.

Comment by wickedpam on 01/13/2012 14:10:50
Sounds like a plan

Morning

Comment by wickedpam on 01/13/2012 14:38:59
I think the wife of either Cain of Abel came from Nod - didn't Carlin do a bit about God pulling off another creation in the next county over?

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/13/2012 14:50:13
Raine, thank you for this fantastic deconstruction of Ron Paul. It is about time that someone tackled this.

As an aside, while the 14th Amendment seems very cut and dried now, it wasn't until the first part of the last century that the courts started to view the rights granted in the "Reconstruction Amedments" as applying to indivduals and not the states. There were several cases that led up to the change.

Comment by TriSec on 01/13/2012 14:50:40
Morning comrades!

It's very liberating to be a "short-timer". I don't have to worry about running rings around my supervisor anymore...I've fixed a couple of things in about 10 minutes that she was wrestling with all day yesterday.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/13/2012 15:06:48
Quote by TriSec:
Morning comrades!

It's very liberating to be a "short-timer". I don't have to worry about running rings around my supervisor anymore...I've fixed a couple of things in about 10 minutes that she was wrestling with all day yesterday.



So just how short are you?

Comment by BobR on 01/13/2012 15:08:44
Quote by TriSec:
Morning comrades!

It's very liberating to be a "short-timer". I don't have to worry about running rings around my supervisor anymore...I've fixed a couple of things in about 10 minutes that she was wrestling with all day yesterday.

There's nothing like the last week at a job, knowing you don't have to worry about meetings or deadlines

Comment by Raine on 01/13/2012 15:14:38
Good morning!


Comment by Raine on 01/13/2012 15:16:57
This is disgusting story. I;m JUST waking up!

Comment by Scoopster on 01/13/2012 15:20:37
Mornin' all & happy Fridee..

I was gonna post this last night but I figured I'd wait til the morning when more people were here..

http://i.imgur.com/Ym6xd.gif


Comment by Mondobubba on 01/13/2012 15:32:18
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all & happy Fridee..

I was gonna post this last night but I figured I'd wait til the morning when more people were here..

http://i.imgur.com/Ym6xd.gif




SQUEEEEEEEEEEE!

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/13/2012 15:32:47
Insanely cute, Scoop.

Comment by TriSec on 01/13/2012 15:42:52
Not that short; end of the month, then I have a couple of days off in-between. (Luxuriously...I haven't had any real days off in a number of years.)


Comment by Mondobubba on 01/13/2012 15:43:57
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/13/2012 15:47:21
Quote by TriSec:
Not that short; end of the month, then I have a couple of days off in-between. (Luxuriously...I haven't had any real days off in a number of years.)



I totally didg the time off comment. You have been a busy cat the past few years, sir.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/13/2012 15:58:09
Quote by Raine:
This is disgusting story. I;m JUST waking up!



Which story is that?

Comment by Raine on 01/13/2012 16:02:22
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
This is disgusting story. I;m JUST waking up!



Which story is that?

be prepared: (click)

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/13/2012 16:15:38
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
This is disgusting story. I;m JUST waking up!



Which story is that?

be prepared: (click)



Got to the title tag :click:

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/13/2012 16:16:35
Here I was thinking you were being disgusted by Marines peeing on corpse of Taliban fighters.

Comment by wickedpam on 01/13/2012 16:17:28
just a note - but does anyone realize that the #20 party school is the University of South Carolina, Columbia? Dartmouth didn't crack the top 20

Comment by Raine on 01/13/2012 16:24:38
Quote by Mondobubba:
Here I was thinking you were being disgusted by Marines peeing on corpse of Taliban fighters.

That goes without saying.

Comment by Raine on 01/13/2012 16:31:18
Quote by wickedpam:
just a note - but does anyone realize that the #20 party school is the University of South Carolina, Columbia? Dartmouth didn't crack the top 20

well that was a bit random! The tarheels are the biggest partiers, Huh?

Comment by TriSec on 01/13/2012 16:32:00
MIT. I'm telling you, geeks party hard. UMass/Lowell, too.



Comment by TriSec on 01/13/2012 16:33:35
In other news...moment of silence from the DC Wing. It's the Air Florida crash anniversary today. I've driven across that bridge (14th St.) I'm sure you do routinely, but I suppose only an av-dork would remember that.

Anyway.


Comment by wickedpam on 01/13/2012 16:34:46
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
just a note - but does anyone realize that the #20 party school is the University of South Carolina, Columbia? Dartmouth didn't crack the top 20

well that was a bit random! The tarheels are the biggest partiers, Huh?



It was in response to a clip of O'Reilly saying Dartmouth was a druggie/party school

UNCC used to be. According to the Princeton Review its

1. Ohio University, Athens, Ohio
2. University of Georgia, Athens, Ga.
3. University of Mississippi, Oxford, Miss.
4. University of Iowa, Iowa City, Iowa
5. University of California Santa Barbara, Santa Barbara, Calif.
6. West Virginia University, Morgantown, W. Va.
7. Penn State University, University Park, Pa.
8. Florida State University, Tallahassee, Fla.
9. University of Florida, Gainesville, Fla.
10. University of Texas, Austin, Texas
11. University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
12. Syracuse University, Syracuse, N.Y.
13. Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge, La.
14. University of Wisconsin-Madison, Madison, Wis.
15. DePauw University, Greencastle, Ind.
16. Indiana University, Bloomington, Ind.
17. Arizona State University, Tempe, Ariz.
18. University of Maryland, College Park, Md.
19. University of Vermont, Burlington, Vt.
20. University of South Carolina, Columbia, S.C.



Comment by wickedpam on 01/13/2012 16:36:15
Quote by TriSec:
In other news...moment of silence from the DC Wing. It's the Air Florida crash anniversary today. I've driven across that bridge (14th St.) I'm sure you do routinely, but I suppose only an av-dork would remember that.

Anyway.


I can't believe it was 30 years ago - my grandfather used to drive over that bridge pretty daily back then


Comment by wickedpam on 01/13/2012 16:37:26
Does anyone know how to contact the FB eleves via the phone or email? I can't find it on the Help section of FB

Comment by BobR on 01/13/2012 16:38:09
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by TriSec:
In other news...moment of silence from the DC Wing. It's the Air Florida crash anniversary today. I've driven across that bridge (14th St.) I'm sure you do routinely, but I suppose only an av-dork would remember that.

Anyway.


I can't believe it was 30 years ago - my grandfather used to drive over that bridge pretty daily back then

The story was on the front page of the WaPo today, with a detailed review in the Metro section.

I drive across that bridge several times a week


Comment by Mondobubba on 01/13/2012 16:41:30
Quote by wickedpam:
Does anyone know how to contact the FB eleves via the phone or email? I can't find it on the Help section of FB



Contact FB Elves by phone? Or email? :rofl:

Comment by wickedpam on 01/13/2012 16:43:00
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Does anyone know how to contact the FB eleves via the phone or email? I can't find it on the Help section of FB



Contact FB Elves by phone? Or email? :rofl:



yes I know -just trying to help out a neighbor who's account has been blocked

Comment by Raine on 01/13/2012 16:45:34
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
just a note - but does anyone realize that the #20 party school is the University of South Carolina, Columbia? Dartmouth didn't crack the top 20

well that was a bit random! The tarheels are the biggest partiers, Huh?



It was in response to a clip of O'Reilly saying Dartmouth was a druggie/party school

UNCC used to be. According to the Princeton Review its

1. Ohio University, Athens, Ohio
2. University of Georgia, Athens, Ga.
3. University of Mississippi, Oxford, Miss.
4. University of Iowa, Iowa City, Iowa
5. University of California Santa Barbara, Santa Barbara, Calif.
6. West Virginia University, Morgantown, W. Va.
7. Penn State University, University Park, Pa.
8. Florida State University, Tallahassee, Fla.
9. University of Florida, Gainesville, Fla.
10. University of Texas, Austin, Texas
11. University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
12. Syracuse University, Syracuse, N.Y.
13. Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge, La.
14. University of Wisconsin-Madison, Madison, Wis.
15. DePauw University, Greencastle, Ind.
16. Indiana University, Bloomington, Ind.
17. Arizona State University, Tempe, Ariz.
18. University of Maryland, College Park, Md.
19. University of Vermont, Burlington, Vt.
20. University of South Carolina, Columbia, S.C.

Ahhhh. I missed that clip. Interesting list.


Comment by Mondobubba on 01/13/2012 16:46:26
Quote by TriSec:
MIT. I'm telling you, geeks party hard. UMass/Lowell, too.




They don't call is ZooMass for nuttin!

Comment by TriSec on 01/13/2012 16:46:53
Dartmouth? A party school?????

The Quad:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Dartmouth_College_campus_2007-10-20_09.JPG/400px-Dartmouth_College_campus_2007-10-20_09.JPG


Hanover, NH. Yeah, that's party central allright!



Comment by Mondobubba on 01/13/2012 16:49:36
Quote by BobR:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by TriSec:
In other news...moment of silence from the DC Wing. It's the Air Florida crash anniversary today. I've driven across that bridge (14th St.) I'm sure you do routinely, but I suppose only an av-dork would remember that.

Anyway.


I can't believe it was 30 years ago - my grandfather used to drive over that bridge pretty daily back then

The story was on the front page of the WaPo today, with a detailed review in the Metro section.

I drive across that bridge several times a week



I saw the story on the WaPo site too. Any mention of Howard Stern's next call to Air Florida???

Comment by Raine on 01/13/2012 16:50:05
Quote by BobR:
Raine wrote this fantastic blog last night, and I am not inspired this morning, so we'll let this one be our post for today.
I want to thank Bobber for helping to tie it all together to make more sense. he did an excellent job editing for me.


Comment by wickedpam on 01/13/2012 17:07:09
Sam Seder in for Thom today

Comment by Raine on 01/13/2012 17:23:11
Sam Seder is filling in for Thom today.

Comment by Raine on 01/13/2012 17:23:52
Quote by wickedpam:
Sam Seder in for Thom today

I need to refresh more often...


Comment by wickedpam on 01/13/2012 17:24:41
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Sam Seder in for Thom today

I need to refresh more often...



:p:

Comment by livingonli on 01/13/2012 17:31:18
I have to get up early tomorrow if I am going to check out Lizz's show. She was on Countdown last night and her new radio show in DC was mentioned by Shuster.

Comment by BobR on 01/13/2012 17:47:07
3 conference calls this morning, and now listening to a "phonecast" from the Company president...


Comment by TriSec on 01/13/2012 18:25:34
Bwahahahahahaaaaa! I am an EDI GOD!!!!

Kneeeeeel to Meeeeeeeee!





Comment by Scoopster on 01/13/2012 18:55:29
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/13/2012 19:27:56
Quote by TriSec:
Bwahahahahahaaaaa! I am an EDI GOD!!!!

Kneeeeeel to Meeeeeeeee!






No.

Comment by Raine on 01/13/2012 19:28:50
Quote by livingonli:
I have to get up early tomorrow if I am going to check out Lizz's show. She was on Countdown last night and her new radio show in DC was mentioned by Shuster.
She's doing show with Cliff Schecter.


Comment by BobR on 01/13/2012 19:31:35
This is kinda cool:



Comment by Raine on 01/13/2012 19:33:49
he's also a terrible negotiator it appears.


Comment by Raine on 01/13/2012 19:42:50
This sounds weird.
A federal judge says she has two letters from a cardiologist saying ex-presidential candidate John Edwards has a life-threatening condition that will require surgery in February.

The letters were revealed during a hearing Friday to consider whether the ex-North Carolina Senator would go on trial later this month for alleged campaign finance violations.