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Ask A Vet
Author: TriSec
Date: 10/16/2012 10:15:52
Good Morning.
Today is our 4,027th day in Afghanistan.
We'll start this morning as we always do; with the latest casualty figures from our ongoing war, courtesy of Antiwar.com:
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 2,135
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 1, 065
We find this morning's Cost of War passing through:
$ 1, 383, 278, 425, 000 .00
I've got three things this morning....perhaps interconnected.
We'll begin in Washington, DC. It's a typical American story; a young child becomes enamored with the military and decides on it as a career from an early age. Graduating #4 from OCS, it's on to an illustrious career and maybe the Pentagon. Except....it's a young woman who had these dreams, a dream sidetracked by rape.
We'll stay with the lawsuit angle; Ms Russo is not the only one. There's been a recent suit filed by seven Airmen accusing the top brass of ignoring, marginalizing and ostracizing them because they reported a sexual assault on their person.
Finally this morning....a brief look at command. I've been following this for a while; over the last year or so, 18 commanders have been relieved of command of bases, ships, and other things because of certain "improprieties". It sure makes you wonder, doesn't it?
But I suppose it's all part of the current climate...what are women doing in the military anyway? Shouldn't you be home making babies or something?
Today is our 4,027th day in Afghanistan.
We'll start this morning as we always do; with the latest casualty figures from our ongoing war, courtesy of Antiwar.com:
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 2,135
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 1, 065
We find this morning's Cost of War passing through:
I've got three things this morning....perhaps interconnected.
We'll begin in Washington, DC. It's a typical American story; a young child becomes enamored with the military and decides on it as a career from an early age. Graduating #4 from OCS, it's on to an illustrious career and maybe the Pentagon. Except....it's a young woman who had these dreams, a dream sidetracked by rape.
From the time she was a little girl, Claire Russo knew she wanted to be a Marine.
“When I was 10 and when I was 18 and when I was 23, the reason never changed. They were the toughest,” said Russo in an interview with Natalie Morales broadcast Thursday on NBC’s Rock Center with Brian Williams.
The native of Washington, D.C., stuck to her dream, graduating No. 4 in her class from officer candidate school in 2003. Her father, Ken Wilkinsen, watched her commissioning with pride.
“This colonel came up,” Wilkinsen recalled. “He said, ‘If we had more of her type here... my job would be a lot easier.’”
Russo began what she thought would be a long career in the military, but her work as an intelligence officer was upended when she was sexually assaulted by a fellow Marine in November 2004.
“I love this country,” said the 32-year-old Russo. “But, you know, there’s a wound that will never heal. I gave the Marine Corps everything and it took from me something that I’m never going to get back.”
Russo is one of the thousands of members of the Armed Forces who have been sexually assaulted while serving their country. Last year, 3,192 service members across all branches of the military reported sexual assaults. Based on anonymous surveys of active-duty service members conducted in 2010, the Department of Defense says the number of incidents was closer to 19,000. Of the cases that are reported, only a fraction are prosecuted in the military justice system.
Attorney Susan Burke has filed several lawsuits against the top brass at the Department of Defense on behalf of sexual assault victims, charging they’ve been deprived of their due process.
“What all of us expect as Americans is an impartial system of justice. We don’t know the judge. We don’t know the jurors,” Burke said. “That’s not what is happening in the military. In the military, the commanders get to decide based on their own impressions of the two people coming forward who to believe. ”
Russo’s case was shut down by the Marine Corps, but since her assault happened off base, she was able to seek justice in the civilian court system. Recalling the November 2004 night she was assaulted is still upsetting to Russo. She attended the Marine Corps Ball at a San Diego, Calif., hotel with her cousin, Tom, a Navy F-18 aviator. Tom introduced her to a fellow marine, Doug Dowson. Dowson bought her a drink and said he’d take her to a room party.
Russo said that after accepting the drink from Dowson, things started “to get a little hazy.” Russo said that she felt like she’d been drugged. A drug test taken over 24 hours after the assault was inconclusive.
“The next thing I remember is being on the ground in the bathroom. He was holding me down and sodomizing me and at that point, I was just crying and begging him to stop,” said Russo through tears.
***
“As the investigation progressed, as the command briefings and evidence and investigative reports were presented to the command of the accused, it was very apparent that they were going to take no action,” Paton said.
Paton broke the news to Russo, but neither of them was prepared to give up.
We'll stay with the lawsuit angle; Ms Russo is not the only one. There's been a recent suit filed by seven Airmen accusing the top brass of ignoring, marginalizing and ostracizing them because they reported a sexual assault on their person.
Nineteen former and active-duty service members, including seven airmen, accuse Air Force and Army leadership of subjecting them to sexual assaults by fostering an environment that tolerated such crimes, according to a lawsuit filed Sept. 28 in U.S. District Court.
The claim is the fifth of its kind filed by Washington, D.C., attorney Susan Burke and the first that targets the Air Force. All but one of the cases is pending; a federal judge dismissed a similar lawsuit against former Defense Secretaries Donald Rumsfeld and Robert Gates in December.
The most recent case, filed in the court in the Northern District of California, names as defendants Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Air Force Secretary Michael Donley, among others. A “pattern and practice of ignoring and failing to prosecute rape and sexual assault” has led to a series of scandals, the lawsuit states, including more than a dozen military training instructors coming under investigation at Joint Base San Antonio-Lackland.
The MTIs have been accused of crimes ranging from rape and aggravated sexual assault to improper relationships via social media.
The airmen who have filed suit include five women and two men who said they were denied due process, equal protection, free speech and the right to a jury trial after they were sexually assaulted by a fellow service member.
***
The suit includes the following allegations:
• A former staff sergeant said she was harassed and accused of being a liar after reporting she was sexually assaulted by a classmate at the Defense Language Institute in Monterey, Calif., in 2005. Two other women had accused her alleged attacker of rape. She learned in 2010 that the commander chose not to pursue any of the allegations.
• A master sergeant who reported to the military that he was struck on the head and sexually assaulted by an officer in September 2010 was in turn charged with a series of crimes for his “participation” in the attack. The master sergeant, who said he was ostracized and retaliated against by his superiors, was cleared of all the charges. He suffers from a traumatic brain injury and PTSD. The officer was never charged with sexual assault.
• A female senior airman suffered escalating sexual harassment and assault while at Hurlburt Air Force Base, Fla., in 2004. Though she reported it to her supervisor, the case was never investigated. She ultimately submitted a complaint with the Equal Opportunity Office, which backed up her allegations. Her assailant received a letter of reprimand and remained in the service.
• A captain said he was drugged and sexually assaulted by a fellow serviceman at a party while at Sheppard Air Force Base, Texas. He reported the assault and sought medical attention. The captain was ordered to attend an alcohol abuse evaluation.
Burke, whose father was career Army, said she began filing the lawsuits in 2010 after she was approached by a military wife who said she was raped by a friend of her husband.
“When I looked into it, I was appalled and shocked by the state of affairs. I simply held myself out as willing to” take on these cases, she said in an interview. “I was inundated with calls. It’s a national disgrace.”
Burke assumed the military “had fixed everything” after the 1991 Navy Tailhook scandal, she said, referring to the dozens of officers accused of “improper and indecent” conduct at a Las Vegas hotel. “I was really upset and disappointed” to learn otherwise, she said.
Burke has appealed the lawsuit that was dismissed. “We think we can win,” she said.
A spokesman for Donley, Lt. Col. Samuel Highley, said the Air Force cannot comment on ongoing lawsuits.
Finally this morning....a brief look at command. I've been following this for a while; over the last year or so, 18 commanders have been relieved of command of bases, ships, and other things because of certain "improprieties". It sure makes you wonder, doesn't it?
Yet another Navy commander has been relieved of command.
This time it's Capt. James CoBell III of the Oceana Naval Air Station's Fleet Readiness Center Mid-Atlantic, based on published reports.
An investigation found CoBell used subordinates to conduct personal business, was verbally abusive to subordinates, and failed to properly account for personal leave, according to The Virginian-Pilot and Navy Times.
The Navy Times reported that CoBell is the 18th naval commander to be relieved of command this year.
In statements to The Navy Times and The Virginian-Pilot, CoBell disputed the charges. The Virginian-Pilot reported that CoBell noted the investigation dealt with allegations of fraud, waste and abuse, and a hostile work environment. CoBell denied that was the case and said the investigating officer found the allegations to be unsubstaniated.
Quoting from an email from CoBell, The Navy Times said the naval officer characterized the "command climate" while he was the executive officer and commander of FRC Mid-Atlantic as being "well within Navy norms."
While the probe was ongoing, CoBell was reassigned to the Naval Air Forces Atlantic staff. The Navy Times reported CoBell will remain there pending administrative action.
But I suppose it's all part of the current climate...what are women doing in the military anyway? Shouldn't you be home making babies or something?
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Comment by 
wickedpam on 10/16/2012 12:58:34
wickedpam on 10/16/2012 12:58:34
Morning 
Comment by 
Raine on 10/16/2012 13:28:30
Good Morning.
it's blogs like today that really make it tough for me to support the military. I'm sorry to say this, and I know that is wrong, but after all these years of war, it is time for someone to start taking these things seriously. Women deserve to feel secure while they are fighting to secure our country.
Raine on 10/16/2012 13:28:30
Good Morning. it's blogs like today that really make it tough for me to support the military. I'm sorry to say this, and I know that is wrong, but after all these years of war, it is time for someone to start taking these things seriously. Women deserve to feel secure while they are fighting to secure our country.
Comment by 
TriSec on 10/16/2012 13:37:59
TriSec on 10/16/2012 13:37:59
Breaking - Juan Palmerola, father of Mrs. TriSec, has passed.
Don't know what's going on. I'll be out of here soon enough.
Grieve not - this is a relief. (Alzheimer's). He hasn't been "there" in perhaps two and half years now.
Don't know what's going on. I'll be out of here soon enough.
Grieve not - this is a relief. (Alzheimer's). He hasn't been "there" in perhaps two and half years now.
Comment by 
BobR on 10/16/2012 13:40:57
It's still a terrible way to go.
Here's hoping for comfort to you, Mrs. TriSec, and family.
BobR on 10/16/2012 13:40:57
Quote by TriSec:
Breaking - Juan Palmerola, father of Mrs. TriSec, has passed.
Don't know what's going on. I'll be out of here soon enough.
Grieve not - this is a relief. (Alzheimer's). He hasn't been "there" in perhaps two and half years now.
It's still a terrible way to go.
Here's hoping for comfort to you, Mrs. TriSec, and family.
Comment by Raine on 10/16/2012 13:42:27
for the familia de TriSec.
Raine on 10/16/2012 13:42:27
Quote by TriSec:
Breaking - Juan Palmerola, father of Mrs. TriSec, has passed.
Don't know what's going on. I'll be out of here soon enough.
Grieve not - this is a relief. (Alzheimer's). He hasn't been "there" in perhaps two and half years now.
for the familia de TriSec.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/16/2012 13:50:53
wickedpam on 10/16/2012 13:50:53
Quote by TriSec:
Breaking - Juan Palmerola, father of Mrs. TriSec, has passed.
Don't know what's going on. I'll be out of here soon enough.
Grieve not - this is a relief. (Alzheimer's). He hasn't been "there" in perhaps two and half years now.
Comment by TriSec on 10/16/2012 14:05:28
TriSec on 10/16/2012 14:05:28
At long last, Allah was merciful to his good and faithful servant. Pepe, of course, followed Jesus, but at the end, no matter who we follow, Grace is the same.
Comment by Raine on 10/16/2012 14:11:45
That is nice, Tri.
Raine on 10/16/2012 14:11:45
Quote by TriSec:
At long last, Allah was merciful to his good and faithful servant. Pepe, of course, followed Jesus, but at the end, no matter who we follow, Grace is the same.
Comment by 
clintster on 10/16/2012 14:13:55
أنت وعائلتك في صلاتي
clintster on 10/16/2012 14:13:55
Quote by TriSec:
At long last, Allah was merciful to his good and faithful servant. Pepe, of course, followed Jesus, but at the end, no matter who we follow, Grace is the same.
أنت وعائلتك في صلاتي
Comment by wickedpam on 10/16/2012 14:24:22
wickedpam on 10/16/2012 14:24:22
Comment by Raine on 10/16/2012 14:38:22
Raine on 10/16/2012 14:38:22
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 10/16/2012 15:31:47
Thinking of you and your family today, Tri.
trojanrabbit on 10/16/2012 15:31:47
Quote by TriSec:
Breaking - Juan Palmerola, father of Mrs. TriSec, has passed.
Don't know what's going on. I'll be out of here soon enough.
Grieve not - this is a relief. (Alzheimer's). He hasn't been "there" in perhaps two and half years now.
Thinking of you and your family today, Tri.
Comment by 
livingonli on 10/16/2012 15:46:47
livingonli on 10/16/2012 15:46:47
Good morning, everyone. You have to love when Current is actually promoting Momma's special as "Momma on Current pre-debate at 7 PM". It's strange to go back a few years ago when I could only catch the show on-line since many of us couldn't get it on a terrestrial affiliate. It was on Sirius, but not XM and they only ran the show on delay late at night. How times have changed. I just got to keep my tickets together for Sexy Liberal on the 27th (the start of my vacation) and for Lizz's show at the Gramercy the night before the election. It could be appropriate with the pending move that I am on vacation in the final days of the race-up to the election.
Now I just have to decide between location and whether I want a place with a pool or with kitties (a place with both would be an instant pick).
Now I just have to decide between location and whether I want a place with a pool or with kitties (a place with both would be an instant pick).
Comment by wickedpam on 10/16/2012 15:48:43
ohhh tough choice - is the pool heated and can you get a kitteh there?
wickedpam on 10/16/2012 15:48:43
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning, everyone. You have to love when Current is actually promoting Momma's special as "Momma on Current pre-debate at 7 PM". It's strange to go back a few years ago when I could only catch the show on-line since many of us couldn't get it on a terrestrial affiliate. It was on Sirius, but not XM and they only ran the show on delay late at night. How times have changed. I just got to keep my tickets together for Sexy Liberal on the 27th (the start of my vacation) and for Lizz's show at the Gramercy the night before the election. It could be appropriate with the pending move that I am on vacation in the final days of the race-up to the election.
Now I just have to decide between location and whether I want a place with a pool or with kitties (a place with both would be an instant pick).
ohhh tough choice - is the pool heated and can you get a kitteh there?
Comment by TriSec on 10/16/2012 15:52:38
TriSec on 10/16/2012 15:52:38
Oh, theres an asschub out there. You know who you are.
Comment by Raine on 10/16/2012 15:53:37
I say go with the Kitteh.
Raine on 10/16/2012 15:53:37
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning, everyone. You have to love when Current is actually promoting Momma's special as "Momma on Current pre-debate at 7 PM". It's strange to go back a few years ago when I could only catch the show on-line since many of us couldn't get it on a terrestrial affiliate. It was on Sirius, but not XM and they only ran the show on delay late at night. How times have changed. I just got to keep my tickets together for Sexy Liberal on the 27th (the start of my vacation) and for Lizz's show at the Gramercy the night before the election. It could be appropriate with the pending move that I am on vacation in the final days of the race-up to the election.
Now I just have to decide between location and whether I want a place with a pool or with kitties (a place with both would be an instant pick).
Comment by Raine on 10/16/2012 15:54:43
Raine on 10/16/2012 15:54:43
And Liv, I don;t know if you saw what I posted last night about location and Oyster Bay-- I don;t think it's gonna be a rough as you might think.
Comment by livingonli on 10/16/2012 15:59:38
It's just going to be able to move in quickly enough that I don't have to do an interim put my stuff in storage and stay elsewhere until I can move in. In that case, I would have to pay for two moves and maybe I can crash at my brother's so I don't have to stay at a hotel but I would picture would be worst case scenario would be not moving in until November 1st so at least it would be a week and a half tops of hotel living. The whole thing was the closing date did put me under the gun and finding a place in price and location.
livingonli on 10/16/2012 15:59:38
Quote by Raine:
And Liv, I don;t know if you saw what I posted last night about location and Oyster Bay-- I don;t think it's gonna be a rough as you might think.
It's just going to be able to move in quickly enough that I don't have to do an interim put my stuff in storage and stay elsewhere until I can move in. In that case, I would have to pay for two moves and maybe I can crash at my brother's so I don't have to stay at a hotel but I would picture would be worst case scenario would be not moving in until November 1st so at least it would be a week and a half tops of hotel living. The whole thing was the closing date did put me under the gun and finding a place in price and location.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/16/2012 16:03:23
wickedpam on 10/16/2012 16:03:23
the things I do to amuse myself - reading wine accolades aloud (but quietly) in a South Park voice 
thank God no one walked in the office at that moment
thank God no one walked in the office at that moment
Comment by livingonli on 10/16/2012 16:05:21
livingonli on 10/16/2012 16:05:21
The local news is swarming the Hofstra campus.
Mala, did you see what I posted on my wall about the Dish-AMC dispute since Dish did some major court f-ups which are not going to be good for them?
Mala, did you see what I posted on my wall about the Dish-AMC dispute since Dish did some major court f-ups which are not going to be good for them?
Comment by BobR on 10/16/2012 16:05:40
BobR on 10/16/2012 16:05:40
Quote by wickedpam:
the things I do to amuse myself - reading wine accolades aloud (but quietly) in a South Park voice
thank God no one walked in the office at that moment
Comment by wickedpam on 10/16/2012 16:06:42
missed it - what happened?
wickedpam on 10/16/2012 16:06:42
Quote by livingonli:
The local news is swarming the Hofstra campus.
Mala, did you see what I posted on my wall about the Dish-AMC dispute since Dish did some major court f-ups which are not going to be good for them?
missed it - what happened?
Comment by Raine on 10/16/2012 16:08:27
Raine on 10/16/2012 16:08:27
Quote by wickedpam:
the things I do to amuse myself - reading wine accolades aloud (but quietly) in a South Park voice
thank God no one walked in the office at that moment
Comment by TriSec on 10/16/2012 16:08:41
I often lapse into a British accent whilst waxing poetic about tea.
Alone, in a dark room. Yeesh.
TriSec on 10/16/2012 16:08:41
Quote by wickedpam:
the things I do to amuse myself - reading wine accolades aloud (but quietly) in a South Park voice
thank God no one walked in the office at that moment
I often lapse into a British accent whilst waxing poetic about tea.
Alone, in a dark room. Yeesh.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/16/2012 16:10:34
at least I'm not the only one who does that kinda thing
wickedpam on 10/16/2012 16:10:34
Quote by TriSec:Quote by wickedpam:
the things I do to amuse myself - reading wine accolades aloud (but quietly) in a South Park voice
thank God no one walked in the office at that moment
I often lapse into a British accent whilst waxing poetic about tea.
Alone, in a dark room. Yeesh.
at least I'm not the only one who does that kinda thing
Comment by wickedpam on 10/16/2012 16:11:31
wickedpam on 10/16/2012 16:11:31
its not even a good south park voice - its kinda a Timmeh/Cartman-esque voice
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 10/16/2012 16:14:50
Mondobubba on 10/16/2012 16:14:50
My morning in emoticons:
5:00-530
:puke:
6:00-6:45 
5:00-530
:puke:6:00-6:45
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/16/2012 16:19:10
Bummer. I know that feeling of grieve not. Be strong, little TriSec. :hugs: for all of clan TriSec.
Mondobubba on 10/16/2012 16:19:10
Quote by TriSec:
Breaking - Juan Palmerola, father of Mrs. TriSec, has passed.
Don't know what's going on. I'll be out of here soon enough.
Grieve not - this is a relief. (Alzheimer's). He hasn't been "there" in perhaps two and half years now.
Bummer. I know that feeling of grieve not. Be strong, little TriSec. :hugs: for all of clan TriSec.
Comment by livingonli on 10/16/2012 16:23:24
There are two articles on my wall but basically Dish has been caught trying to suppress evidence and there is a lot of lying going on their part which is making it very likely that Dish is going to lose this suit against AMC (even though this lawsuit goes back 4 years ago to when Dish dropped the Voom HD channels because Cheap Charlie didn't want to pay for them as free HD became available with more channels going HD). Dish is going to end up having to pay AMC over $2 billion and will eventually have to re-instate the AMC Networks once the smoke clears if they want to save their reputation and Dish could end up not getting spectrum that they asked for as a result as well.
livingonli on 10/16/2012 16:23:24
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by livingonli:
The local news is swarming the Hofstra campus.
Mala, did you see what I posted on my wall about the Dish-AMC dispute since Dish did some major court f-ups which are not going to be good for them?
missed it - what happened?
There are two articles on my wall but basically Dish has been caught trying to suppress evidence and there is a lot of lying going on their part which is making it very likely that Dish is going to lose this suit against AMC (even though this lawsuit goes back 4 years ago to when Dish dropped the Voom HD channels because Cheap Charlie didn't want to pay for them as free HD became available with more channels going HD). Dish is going to end up having to pay AMC over $2 billion and will eventually have to re-instate the AMC Networks once the smoke clears if they want to save their reputation and Dish could end up not getting spectrum that they asked for as a result as well.
Comment by TriSec on 10/16/2012 16:24:08
TriSec on 10/16/2012 16:24:08
Comment by 
Will in Chicago on 10/16/2012 16:26:30
My sympathies to you, your wife and your entire family. May Juan Palmerola's memory be for a blessing.
Will in Chicago on 10/16/2012 16:26:30
Quote by TriSec:
Breaking - Juan Palmerola, father of Mrs. TriSec, has passed.
Don't know what's going on. I'll be out of here soon enough.
Grieve not - this is a relief. (Alzheimer's). He hasn't been "there" in perhaps two and half years now.
My sympathies to you, your wife and your entire family. May Juan Palmerola's memory be for a blessing.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/16/2012 16:27:59
yeah, but is it going to come back in time for me not to have to get all my Walking Dead from iTunes?
I suspect my bills going up as a result of all this.
wickedpam on 10/16/2012 16:27:59
Quote by livingonli:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by livingonli:
The local news is swarming the Hofstra campus.
Mala, did you see what I posted on my wall about the Dish-AMC dispute since Dish did some major court f-ups which are not going to be good for them?
missed it - what happened?
There are two articles on my wall but basically Dish has been caught trying to suppress evidence and there is a lot of lying going on their part which is making it very likely that Dish is going to lose this suit against AMC (even though this lawsuit goes back 4 years ago to when Dish dropped the Voom HD channels because Cheap Charlie didn't want to pay for them as free HD became available with more channels going HD). Dish is going to end up having to pay AMC over $2 billion and will eventually have to re-instate the AMC Networks once the smoke clears if they want to save their reputation and Dish could end up not getting spectrum that they asked for as a result as well.
yeah, but is it going to come back in time for me not to have to get all my Walking Dead from iTunes?
I suspect my bills going up as a result of all this.
Comment by livingonli on 10/16/2012 16:36:46
Ol' Cheap Charlie will find a way to pass on the cost especially if they get their clocks cleaned although they might hurt their rep as the cheaper television provider although DirecTV doesn't seem to get into these messes although the 10-day Viacom dispute was a pain in the ass.
livingonli on 10/16/2012 16:36:46
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by livingonli:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by livingonli:
The local news is swarming the Hofstra campus.
Mala, did you see what I posted on my wall about the Dish-AMC dispute since Dish did some major court f-ups which are not going to be good for them?
missed it - what happened?
There are two articles on my wall but basically Dish has been caught trying to suppress evidence and there is a lot of lying going on their part which is making it very likely that Dish is going to lose this suit against AMC (even though this lawsuit goes back 4 years ago to when Dish dropped the Voom HD channels because Cheap Charlie didn't want to pay for them as free HD became available with more channels going HD). Dish is going to end up having to pay AMC over $2 billion and will eventually have to re-instate the AMC Networks once the smoke clears if they want to save their reputation and Dish could end up not getting spectrum that they asked for as a result as well.
yeah, but is it going to come back in time for me not to have to get all my Walking Dead from iTunes?
I suspect my bills going up as a result of all this.
Ol' Cheap Charlie will find a way to pass on the cost especially if they get their clocks cleaned although they might hurt their rep as the cheaper television provider although DirecTV doesn't seem to get into these messes although the 10-day Viacom dispute was a pain in the ass.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/16/2012 16:37:06
trojanrabbit on 10/16/2012 16:37:06
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/16/2012 16:37:34
I would go with the Kitteh as pets can give you love on your worst day.
TriSec, thanks for a great and distressing blog. It is the intransigence of some military officers that make it hard to support the military. Prosecuting sexual assault would help recruitment and ensure that the military is a place where a committed American can serve without fear.
In the good news, I think that my interview for the English teacher position went well. I should know in the next few days if I get to go back to teach a lesson. Wish me luck.
Will in Chicago on 10/16/2012 16:37:34
Quote by Raine:I say go with the Kitteh.Quote by livingonli:
Good morning, everyone. You have to love when Current is actually promoting Momma's special as "Momma on Current pre-debate at 7 PM". It's strange to go back a few years ago when I could only catch the show on-line since many of us couldn't get it on a terrestrial affiliate. It was on Sirius, but not XM and they only ran the show on delay late at night. How times have changed. I just got to keep my tickets together for Sexy Liberal on the 27th (the start of my vacation) and for Lizz's show at the Gramercy the night before the election. It could be appropriate with the pending move that I am on vacation in the final days of the race-up to the election.
Now I just have to decide between location and whether I want a place with a pool or with kitties (a place with both would be an instant pick).
I would go with the Kitteh as pets can give you love on your worst day.
TriSec, thanks for a great and distressing blog. It is the intransigence of some military officers that make it hard to support the military. Prosecuting sexual assault would help recruitment and ensure that the military is a place where a committed American can serve without fear.
In the good news, I think that my interview for the English teacher position went well. I should know in the next few days if I get to go back to teach a lesson. Wish me luck.
Comment by BobR on 10/16/2012 16:41:07
BobR on 10/16/2012 16:41:07
Comment by BobR on 10/16/2012 16:44:00
On the other hand, if you can get your own kitteh at the place with the pool, then both are covered. The downside is that the kitteh would be your responsibility for the rest of its life, so you'd have to decide if you were ready for that kind of commitment (financially and otherwise). If you'd rather not, then go with the kitteh house - it's year round.
BobR on 10/16/2012 16:44:00
Quote by Will in Chicago:Quote by Raine:I say go with the Kitteh.Quote by livingonli:
Good morning, everyone. You have to love when Current is actually promoting Momma's special as "Momma on Current pre-debate at 7 PM". It's strange to go back a few years ago when I could only catch the show on-line since many of us couldn't get it on a terrestrial affiliate. It was on Sirius, but not XM and they only ran the show on delay late at night. How times have changed. I just got to keep my tickets together for Sexy Liberal on the 27th (the start of my vacation) and for Lizz's show at the Gramercy the night before the election. It could be appropriate with the pending move that I am on vacation in the final days of the race-up to the election.
Now I just have to decide between location and whether I want a place with a pool or with kitties (a place with both would be an instant pick).
I would go with the Kitteh as pets can give you love on your worst day.
TriSec, thanks for a great and distressing blog. It is the intransigence of some military officers that make it hard to support the military. Prosecuting sexual assault would help recruitment and ensure that the military is a place where a committed American can serve without fear.
In the good news, I think that my interview for the English teacher position went well. I should know in the next few days if I get to go back to teach a lesson. Wish me luck.
On the other hand, if you can get your own kitteh at the place with the pool, then both are covered. The downside is that the kitteh would be your responsibility for the rest of its life, so you'd have to decide if you were ready for that kind of commitment (financially and otherwise). If you'd rather not, then go with the kitteh house - it's year round.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/16/2012 16:59:29
trojanrabbit on 10/16/2012 16:59:29
What should I care what some abused Reality TV "star" thinks.
I'd be surprised if she makes it to voting age.
So glad I dumped cable. I'd probably stroke out if my TiVo accidentally recorded that garbage.
I'd be surprised if she makes it to voting age.
So glad I dumped cable. I'd probably stroke out if my TiVo accidentally recorded that garbage.
Comment by TriSec on 10/16/2012 17:16:52
TriSec on 10/16/2012 17:16:52
God bless my team. They've been razzing me a little today....you all well remember what happened the last time I went to a funeral.
If it wasn't for black humour, there'd be none at all.
If it wasn't for black humour, there'd be none at all.
Comment by Raine on 10/16/2012 17:32:51
You ALL have seen bob and I do emoticon theatre in public... 
Raine on 10/16/2012 17:32:51
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by TriSec:Quote by wickedpam:
the things I do to amuse myself - reading wine accolades aloud (but quietly) in a South Park voice
thank God no one walked in the office at that moment
I often lapse into a British accent whilst waxing poetic about tea.
Alone, in a dark room. Yeesh.
at least I'm not the only one who does that kinda thing
Comment by Raine on 10/16/2012 17:33:47
I hope you are able to rest at home. I'd hug ya, but.....
Raine on 10/16/2012 17:33:47
Quote by Mondobubba:
My morning in emoticons:
5:00-530
6:00-6:45
Comment by Raine on 10/16/2012 17:35:59
Razzing is always good, if youask me.
Raine on 10/16/2012 17:35:59
Quote by TriSec:
God bless my team. They've been razzing me a little today....you all well remember what happened the last time I went to a funeral.
If it wasn't for black humour, there'd be none at all.
Razzing is always good, if youask me.
Comment by Raine on 10/16/2012 17:37:26
Well. That happened.
Raine on 10/16/2012 17:37:26
Quote by trojanrabbit:
What should I care what some abused Reality TV "star" thinks.
I'd be surprised if she makes it to voting age.
So glad I dumped cable. I'd probably stroke out if my TiVo accidentally recorded that garbage.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/16/2012 17:52:28
resting comfortably checking out the Firefly store on the Thnk Geek website. and taking this What Kind Of Liberal Are You? quiz
Mondobubba on 10/16/2012 17:52:28
Quote by Raine:I hope you are able to rest at home. I'd hug ya, but.....Quote by Mondobubba:
My morning in emoticons:
5:00-530
6:00-6:45
resting comfortably checking out the Firefly store on the Thnk Geek website. and taking this What Kind Of Liberal Are You? quiz
Comment by wickedpam on 10/16/2012 17:55:47
I don't think I've seen it but I have seen ....
wickedpam on 10/16/2012 17:55:47
Quote by Raine:You ALL have seen bob and I do emoticon theatre in public...Quote by wickedpam:Quote by TriSec:Quote by wickedpam:
the things I do to amuse myself - reading wine accolades aloud (but quietly) in a South Park voice
thank God no one walked in the office at that moment
I often lapse into a British accent whilst waxing poetic about tea.
Alone, in a dark room. Yeesh.
at least I'm not the only one who does that kinda thing
I don't think I've seen it but I have seen ....
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/16/2012 18:06:16
Mondobubba on 10/16/2012 18:06:16
Comment by wickedpam on 10/16/2012 18:10:59
Think Geek is very shiny
wickedpam on 10/16/2012 18:10:59
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:I hope you are able to rest at home. I'd hug ya, but.....Quote by Mondobubba:
My morning in emoticons:
5:00-530
6:00-6:45
resting comfortably checking out the Firefly store on the Thnk Geek website. and taking this What Kind Of Liberal Are You? quiz
Think Geek is very shiny
Comment by 
Scoopster on 10/16/2012 18:12:20
One fix to this - when Romney says "hammered", you finish your drink and take three swigs out of the next one.
Scoopster on 10/16/2012 18:12:20
Quote by Mondobubba:
This image for the debate drinking game is freaking huge.
One fix to this - when Romney says "hammered", you finish your drink and take three swigs out of the next one.
Comment by Raine on 10/16/2012 18:29:36
Raine on 10/16/2012 18:29:36
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Comment by Raine on 10/16/2012 19:47:14
Oh. Dear.... 
Raine on 10/16/2012 19:47:14
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:You ALL have seen bob and I do emoticon theatre in public...Quote by wickedpam:Quote by TriSec:Quote by wickedpam:
the things I do to amuse myself - reading wine accolades aloud (but quietly) in a South Park voice
thank God no one walked in the office at that moment
I often lapse into a British accent whilst waxing poetic about tea.
Alone, in a dark room. Yeesh.
at least I'm not the only one who does that kinda thing
I don't think I've seen it but I have seen ....
Comment by BobR on 10/16/2012 19:51:39
That's a sure-fire recipe for alcohol poisoning.
BobR on 10/16/2012 19:51:39
Quote by Mondobubba:
This image for the debate drinking game is freaking huge.
That's a sure-fire recipe for alcohol poisoning.
Comment by TriSec on 10/16/2012 19:57:39
TriSec on 10/16/2012 19:57:39
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Comment by Scoopster on 10/16/2012 20:02:01
Scoopster on 10/16/2012 20:02:01
Comment by Raine on 10/16/2012 20:02:52
You picked the south succeeding, didn't you?
Raine on 10/16/2012 20:02:52
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You picked the south succeeding, didn't you?
Comment by TriSec on 10/16/2012 20:03:32
TriSec on 10/16/2012 20:03:32
I did indeed. To hell with them. I did pause over Texas, though.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/16/2012 20:08:59
I got the same thing but I removed the Bible Belt
wickedpam on 10/16/2012 20:08:59
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You picked the south succeeding, didn't you?
I got the same thing but I removed the Bible Belt
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/16/2012 20:31:07
Mondobubba on 10/16/2012 20:31:07
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Comment by Raine on 10/16/2012 22:00:09
Raine on 10/16/2012 22:00:09
Mondo, I gotta say that you bringing that poll to light was awesome.
Comment by clintster on 10/16/2012 22:23:54
O... M... G!!! That is the first time I'm seeing that, and I can't believe that is the FIRST TIME I'M SEEING THAT! There must be a mass meet-up soon.
clintster on 10/16/2012 22:23:54
Quote by Raine:Oh. Dear....Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:You ALL have seen bob and I do emoticon theatre in public...Quote by wickedpam:Quote by TriSec:Quote by wickedpam:
the things I do to amuse myself - reading wine accolades aloud (but quietly) in a South Park voice
thank God no one walked in the office at that moment
I often lapse into a British accent whilst waxing poetic about tea.
Alone, in a dark room. Yeesh.
at least I'm not the only one who does that kinda thing
I don't think I've seen it but I have seen ....
O... M... G!!! That is the first time I'm seeing that, and I can't believe that is the FIRST TIME I'M SEEING THAT! There must be a mass meet-up soon.
Comment by Raine on 10/16/2012 23:17:17
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Raine on 10/16/2012 23:17:17
Quote by clintster:
O... M... G!!! That is the first time I'm seeing that, and I can't believe that is the FIRST TIME I'M SEEING THAT! There must be a mass meet-up soon.
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Comment by TriSec on 10/16/2012 23:22:10
TriSec on 10/16/2012 23:22:10
EARTHQUAKE!!!
No, seriously. Local FB is abuzz about the random shaking we just had here.
No, seriously. Local FB is abuzz about the random shaking we just had here.
Comment by livingonli on 10/16/2012 23:39:29
livingonli on 10/16/2012 23:39:29
Back from house hunting for today. I think I have enough promising leads, so it's going to probably come down to a combination of factors (While I would like to have a kittie companion, two of the places don't have cats but they each have other advantages). Something to ponder this week while I start packing. My housemate has said there are still a few details to work out, so we might not have to get out by the 22nd so hopefully if we have until the end of the month at least I will just have to do one move and avoid the storage-temporary living situation.
Comment by Scoopster on 10/16/2012 23:50:23
Scoopster on 10/16/2012 23:50:23
Stay classy Ari Fleischer..
"I predict an 8.0 tremor will be felt in Chicago election night. It will also cause someone in DC 2lose their home on 1/20/13.
Comment by Raine on 10/17/2012 00:09:36
Asshat.
In other news Maine had a 4.5 earthquake a little while ago.
Raine on 10/17/2012 00:09:36
Quote by Scoopster:
Stay classy Ari Fleischer.."I predict an 8.0 tremor will be felt in Chicago election night. It will also cause someone in DC 2lose their home on 1/20/13.
Asshat.
In other news Maine had a 4.5 earthquake a little while ago.
Comment by Raine on 10/17/2012 00:12:07
That sounds very promising. I'm glad that you seem to have been proactive with all of this change, Liv.
And -- Check Craigslist for free moving boxes... That will save a lot of money for you.
Raine on 10/17/2012 00:12:07
Quote by livingonli:
Back from house hunting for today. I think I have enough promising leads, so it's going to probably come down to a combination of factors (While I would like to have a kittie companion, two of the places don't have cats but they each have other advantages). Something to ponder this week while I start packing. My housemate has said there are still a few details to work out, so we might not have to get out by the 22nd so hopefully if we have until the end of the month at least I will just have to do one move and avoid the storage-temporary living situation.
And -- Check Craigslist for free moving boxes... That will save a lot of money for you.
Comment by Raine on 10/17/2012 00:12:43
Did you feel it?
Raine on 10/17/2012 00:12:43
Quote by TriSec:
EARTHQUAKE!!!
No, seriously. Local FB is abuzz about the random shaking we just had here.
Comment by Scoopster on 10/17/2012 00:19:12
Yeah! I didn't feel anything, but I was watching the news and all of a sudden the camera started jumping around a bit and the anchors immediately picked up on it.
Scoopster on 10/17/2012 00:19:12
Quote by Raine:Quote by Scoopster:
Stay classy Ari Fleischer.."I predict an 8.0 tremor will be felt in Chicago election night. It will also cause someone in DC 2lose their home on 1/20/13.
Asshat.
In other news Maine had a 4.5 earthquake a little while ago.
Yeah! I didn't feel anything, but I was watching the news and all of a sudden the camera started jumping around a bit and the anchors immediately picked up on it.
Comment by BobR on 10/17/2012 00:31:12
BobR on 10/17/2012 00:31:12
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Comment by Scoopster on 10/17/2012 00:38:22
Scoopster on 10/17/2012 00:38:22
In other pre-debate news.. they're scoreless after two innings in Detroit.
Comment by TriSec on 10/17/2012 00:48:22
TriSec on 10/17/2012 00:48:22
Ready to Rock & Roll!
Bring it on!
( Waves flag, jingoism, partisan, etc...)
Bring it on!
( Waves flag, jingoism, partisan, etc...)
Comment by livingonli on 10/17/2012 00:55:52
livingonli on 10/17/2012 00:55:52
I've got Current on and apparently someone on Facebook commented that Chuck Todd was a douche nozzle on MSNBC.
Comment by TriSec on 10/17/2012 01:06:43
TriSec on 10/17/2012 01:06:43
Lesse, my father went to an exam high school IN THE 1950s! You had to test to get IN, not graduate.
No such program exists in Massachusetts that will pay you a grant if you finish in the top 25% of some mysterious high-school graduation exam.
No such program exists in Massachusetts that will pay you a grant if you finish in the top 25% of some mysterious high-school graduation exam.
Comment by BobR on 10/17/2012 01:07:28
especially etc.
BobR on 10/17/2012 01:07:28
Quote by TriSec:
Ready to Rock & Roll!
Bring it on!
( Waves flag, jingoism, partisan, etc...)
especially etc.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/17/2012 01:08:10
wickedpam on 10/17/2012 01:08:10
crap, I dont' think anyone told him about the batter company
Comment by BobR on 10/17/2012 01:08:18
Current is way too busy visually. All that scrolling stuff.
BobR on 10/17/2012 01:08:18
Quote by livingonli:
I've got Current on and apparently someone on Facebook commented that Chuck Todd was a douche nozzle on MSNBC.
Current is way too busy visually. All that scrolling stuff.
Comment by livingonli on 10/17/2012 01:12:32
I doubt I really need to see all those tweets.
livingonli on 10/17/2012 01:12:32
Quote by BobR:Quote by livingonli:
I've got Current on and apparently someone on Facebook commented that Chuck Todd was a douche nozzle on MSNBC.
Current is way too busy visually. All that scrolling stuff.
I doubt I really need to see all those tweets.
Comment by Raine on 10/17/2012 01:13:09
Raine on 10/17/2012 01:13:09
Romney loses his shit 9 minutes into the debate.
Comment by clintster on 10/17/2012 01:16:19
clintster on 10/17/2012 01:16:19
Why is it so important to drill on Federal lands?
Comment by wickedpam on 10/17/2012 01:21:00
good question
wickedpam on 10/17/2012 01:21:00
Quote by clintster:
Why is it so important to drill on Federal lands?
good question
Comment by livingonli on 10/17/2012 01:21:05
Because they have no original ideas and are in the pocket of big oil. Profit first, screw innovation.
livingonli on 10/17/2012 01:21:05
Quote by clintster:
Why is it so important to drill on Federal lands?
Because they have no original ideas and are in the pocket of big oil. Profit first, screw innovation.
Comment by clintster on 10/17/2012 01:21:53
clintster on 10/17/2012 01:21:53
I notice no one mentions the price six months before the 08 election.
Comment by Raine on 10/17/2012 01:22:25
Raine on 10/17/2012 01:22:25
Holy Shite, Mitt Romney is a total ASS.
Comment by Scoopster on 10/17/2012 01:24:36
Complete 180 from the first debate. Obama AND the moderator are standing up to him and he's clearly thrown off by it.
Oh yeah, there's probably no oil left on public lands. The oil companies probably drank that milkshake LONG AGO.
Scoopster on 10/17/2012 01:24:36
Quote by Raine:
Holy Shite, Mitt Romney is a total ASS.
Complete 180 from the first debate. Obama AND the moderator are standing up to him and he's clearly thrown off by it.
Oh yeah, there's probably no oil left on public lands. The oil companies probably drank that milkshake LONG AGO.
Comment by Scoopster on 10/17/2012 01:29:04
Scoopster on 10/17/2012 01:29:04
Oh WHAT THE FUCK!!! "OOh let's have no taxes on capital gains for families makign under 200k a year"
HEY JACKASS HERE'S A CLUE - PEOPLE MAKING UNDER 200K ARE NOT LIKELY TO OWN ANYTHING THAT HAS CAPITAL GAINS!
HEY JACKASS HERE'S A CLUE - PEOPLE MAKING UNDER 200K ARE NOT LIKELY TO OWN ANYTHING THAT HAS CAPITAL GAINS!
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/17/2012 01:29:33
Will in Chicago on 10/17/2012 01:29:33
Obama appealing to people who earn more to pay more.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/17/2012 01:32:03
wickedpam on 10/17/2012 01:32:03
really, I seriously want to hit this person
Comment by Raine on 10/17/2012 01:33:20
We are seeing the REAL Romney tonite -- the man doesn;t like to be challenged: EVER.
Raine on 10/17/2012 01:33:20
Quote by wickedpam:
really, I seriously want to hit this person
Comment by wickedpam on 10/17/2012 01:34:43
slap the smug off!!!
He's such a lying bully!
wickedpam on 10/17/2012 01:34:43
Quote by Raine:We are seeing the REAL Romney tonite -- the man doesn;t like to be challenged: EVER.Quote by wickedpam:
really, I seriously want to hit this person
slap the smug off!!!
He's such a lying bully!
Comment by Scoopster on 10/17/2012 01:35:08
Scoopster on 10/17/2012 01:35:08
Wow.. Romney mentions in one breath that the top 5% pay a 60% share of all tax receipts, then in the next twists that to claim they pay a 60% rate.
Comment by livingonli on 10/17/2012 01:36:58
livingonli on 10/17/2012 01:36:58
Can we please bring up that Romney was only 47th in job creation when he was Governor?
Comment by clintster on 10/17/2012 01:41:22
clintster on 10/17/2012 01:41:22
Mitt Romney "We love you women!"
Comment by Raine on 10/17/2012 01:44:35
Raine on 10/17/2012 01:44:35
Quote by clintster:
Mitt Romney "We love you women!"
Comment by livingonli on 10/17/2012 01:48:26
Especially when you cooking the food and working for less money!
livingonli on 10/17/2012 01:48:26
Quote by clintster:
Mitt Romney "We love you women!"
Especially when you cooking the food and working for less money!
Comment by wickedpam on 10/17/2012 01:48:35
wickedpam on 10/17/2012 01:48:35
I swear he keeps saying the same thing and none of it is the answer to the question
Comment by clintster on 10/17/2012 01:48:48
clintster on 10/17/2012 01:48:48
Mitt Romney came up through the mom n pop storefront called Bain Capital.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/17/2012 01:48:51
Wouldn't a goat be more appropriate for Mitt?
Will in Chicago on 10/17/2012 01:48:51
Quote by Raine:Quote by clintster:
Mitt Romney "We love you women!"
Wouldn't a goat be more appropriate for Mitt?
Comment by Raine on 10/17/2012 01:51:29
He's got nothing.
O is hotting it so far out of the park that parachute guy could catch the ball.
Raine on 10/17/2012 01:51:29
Quote by wickedpam:
I swear he keeps saying the same thing and none of it is the answer to the question
O is hotting it so far out of the park that parachute guy could catch the ball.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/17/2012 01:53:30
He is hitting it so far out of the park, that the Martian Manhunter is on his homeworld getting ready to catch a stray ball.
Will in Chicago on 10/17/2012 01:53:30
Quote by Raine:He's got nothing.Quote by wickedpam:
I swear he keeps saying the same thing and none of it is the answer to the question
O is hotting it so far out of the park that parachute guy could catch the ball.
He is hitting it so far out of the park, that the Martian Manhunter is on his homeworld getting ready to catch a stray ball.
Comment by clintster on 10/17/2012 01:55:39
clintster on 10/17/2012 01:55:39
I'm concerned at how rapidly Romney's blinking. We might see a BSOD pop up soon.
Comment by livingonli on 10/17/2012 01:56:58
livingonli on 10/17/2012 01:56:58
Maybe the problem is when you've got one party that blocks any initiative because all they care about is making the President a one-term President than actually getting anything done, and the other problem is a lot of Bush policies are in effect like the tax cuts
Comment by clintster on 10/17/2012 01:58:03
clintster on 10/17/2012 01:58:03
Did Mitt just admit that Reagan had a recession?
Comment by Raine on 10/17/2012 02:02:02
Mitt also admitted that he discovered Noah's ark.... in the temple of doom.
Raine on 10/17/2012 02:02:02
Quote by clintster:
Did Mitt just admit that Reagan had a recession?
Mitt also admitted that he discovered Noah's ark.... in the temple of doom.
Comment by Raine on 10/17/2012 02:02:47
Meth?
Raine on 10/17/2012 02:02:47
Quote by clintster:
I'm concerned at how rapidly Romney's blinking. We might see a BSOD pop up soon.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/17/2012 02:03:30
Will in Chicago on 10/17/2012 02:03:30
Mitt is less Mexican than Taco Bell!
Comment by clintster on 10/17/2012 02:03:54
No thanks, I'm driving.
clintster on 10/17/2012 02:03:54
Quote by Raine:Meth?Quote by clintster:
I'm concerned at how rapidly Romney's blinking. We might see a BSOD pop up soon.
No thanks, I'm driving.
Comment by clintster on 10/17/2012 02:08:28
clintster on 10/17/2012 02:08:28
Yeah. You really nailed the President with that question about his pension, Mitt.
Comment by Raine on 10/17/2012 02:12:58
HE really looked like a petulant ass.
Raine on 10/17/2012 02:12:58
Quote by clintster:
Yeah. You really nailed the President with that question about his pension, Mitt.
Comment by Raine on 10/17/2012 02:13:24
Raine on 10/17/2012 02:13:24
Quote by clintster:Quote by Raine:Meth?Quote by clintster:
I'm concerned at how rapidly Romney's blinking. We might see a BSOD pop up soon.
No thanks, I'm driving.
Comment by Raine on 10/17/2012 02:15:11
Raine on 10/17/2012 02:15:11
Romney: This was an attack on terrorists, and this calls into question the president's policies in the Middle East.
Comment by clintster on 10/17/2012 02:20:06
clintster on 10/17/2012 02:20:06
How ya like me now?
Comment by BobR on 10/17/2012 02:23:21
BobR on 10/17/2012 02:23:21
Quote by clintster:
How ya like me now?
Comment by Scoopster on 10/17/2012 02:25:38
Scoopster on 10/17/2012 02:25:38
Did Romney really just suggest the Congress should consult with the gun industry on an assault weapons ban?!
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/17/2012 02:27:02
Yep. corporations make the laws in Romney's world.
Will in Chicago on 10/17/2012 02:27:02
Quote by Scoopster:
Did Romney really just suggest the Congress should consult with the gun industry on an assault weapons ban?!
Yep. corporations make the laws in Romney's world.
Comment by Raine on 10/17/2012 02:27:03
Raine on 10/17/2012 02:27:03
In case you missed it, regarding Gun violence: Mitt says 2 married (hetrosexual) parents in home is the answer to gun violence.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/17/2012 02:30:07
wickedpam on 10/17/2012 02:30:07
my head hurts
Comment by wickedpam on 10/17/2012 02:31:27
wickedpam on 10/17/2012 02:31:27
Quote by Raine:Quote by clintster:Quote by Raine:Meth?Quote by clintster:
I'm concerned at how rapidly Romney's blinking. We might see a BSOD pop up soon.
No thanks, I'm driving.
Comment by livingonli on 10/17/2012 02:31:54
Corporations are people, my friend.
livingonli on 10/17/2012 02:31:54
Quote by Will in Chicago:Quote by Scoopster:
Did Romney really just suggest the Congress should consult with the gun industry on an assault weapons ban?!
Yep. corporations make the laws in Romney's world.
Corporations are people, my friend.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/17/2012 02:33:00
I did and it is insane. Poverty is the cause of most crime in this country. Go to the South Side or the West Side of Chicago and tell people that it is parents not poverty.
Will in Chicago on 10/17/2012 02:33:00
Quote by Raine:
In case you missed it, regarding Gun violence: Mitt says 2 married (hetrosexual) parents in home is the answer to gun violence.
I did and it is insane. Poverty is the cause of most crime in this country. Go to the South Side or the West Side of Chicago and tell people that it is parents not poverty.
Comment by Raine on 10/17/2012 02:39:33
And that is exactly what POTUS addressed.
I truly think that Romney is just coming off terribly tonite.
Raine on 10/17/2012 02:39:33
Quote by Will in Chicago:Quote by Raine:
In case you missed it, regarding Gun violence: Mitt says 2 married (hetrosexual) parents in home is the answer to gun violence.
I did and it is insane. Poverty is the cause of most crime in this country. Go to the South Side or the West Side of Chicago and tell people that it is parents not poverty.
I truly think that Romney is just coming off terribly tonite.
Comment by Scoopster on 10/17/2012 02:44:26
Scoopster on 10/17/2012 02:44:26
I seriously want to barf after watching that shitfest.
Obama won that by a mile, but the media spin was so far in advance that it was gonna be a tie so that's how it's gonna be played.
Obama won that by a mile, but the media spin was so far in advance that it was gonna be a tie so that's how it's gonna be played.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/17/2012 02:48:40
The mainstream media needs it to be a horse race to get the advertising dollars.
Will in Chicago on 10/17/2012 02:48:40
Quote by Scoopster:
I seriously want to barf after watching that shitfest.
Obama won that by a mile, but the media spin was so far in advance that it was gonna be a tie so that's how it's gonna be played.
The mainstream media needs it to be a horse race to get the advertising dollars.
Comment by Raine on 10/17/2012 02:51:41
Raine on 10/17/2012 02:51:41
I have to be honest...
I was MOST insulted at his response about women and his cabinet when he was governor of mass. That was so arrogant and dismissive of women.
I was MOST insulted at his response about women and his cabinet when he was governor of mass. That was so arrogant and dismissive of women.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/17/2012 02:53:23
agreed
wickedpam on 10/17/2012 02:53:23
Quote by Raine:
I have to be honest...
I was MOST insulted at his response about women and his cabinet when he was governor of mass. That was so arrogant and dismissive of women.
agreed
Comment by clintster on 10/17/2012 02:56:45
"Alright, we'll call it a draw."
clintster on 10/17/2012 02:56:45
"Alright, we'll call it a draw."
Comment by wickedpam on 10/17/2012 03:00:37
Binders Full of Women
wickedpam on 10/17/2012 03:00:37
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
I have to be honest...
I was MOST insulted at his response about women and his cabinet when he was governor of mass. That was so arrogant and dismissive of women.
agreed
Binders Full of Women
Comment by BobR on 10/17/2012 03:12:29
BobR on 10/17/2012 03:12:29
Quote by clintster:
"Alright, we'll call it a draw."
Comment by Raine on 10/17/2012 03:15:46
MAla. I love you.
Raine on 10/17/2012 03:15:46
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
I have to be honest...
I was MOST insulted at his response about women and his cabinet when he was governor of mass. That was so arrogant and dismissive of women.
agreed
Binders Full of Women
Comment by clintster on 10/17/2012 03:19:40
I had one of those in my sock drawer, before the internet.
clintster on 10/17/2012 03:19:40
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
I have to be honest...
I was MOST insulted at his response about women and his cabinet when he was governor of mass. That was so arrogant and dismissive of women.
agreed
Binders Full of Women
I had one of those in my sock drawer, before the internet.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/17/2012 03:23:55
Love it!
wickedpam on 10/17/2012 03:23:55
Quote by Raine:MAla. I love you.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
I have to be honest...
I was MOST insulted at his response about women and his cabinet when he was governor of mass. That was so arrogant and dismissive of women.
agreed
Binders Full of Women
Love it!
Comment by wickedpam on 10/17/2012 03:30:52
wickedpam on 10/17/2012 03:30:52
Night All
Comment by Raine on 10/17/2012 03:47:57
Raine on 10/17/2012 03:47:57
Comment by Raine on 10/17/2012 12:54:57
Raine on 10/17/2012 12:54:57