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Stormwatch
Author: Will in Chicago
Date: 2012-10-29 10:00:18
As I write this, the East Coast of the United States is waiting for the merger of a Canadian cold front and Hurricane Sandy into what some are calling Superstorm or Frankenstorm. Some areas of the East Coast are expecting a foot of rain and some areas may get two feet of snow. The City of New York has shut down public transit as of 7 PM Eastern Sunday, other areas are taking similar steps – including Philadelphia and Washington D.C. An estimated 10.8 million Americans will face the closure of public transit. Meanwhile, the New York Stock Exchange is cancelling live trading on Monday. Some predictions call for billions of dollars worth of damage to the East Coast
Many people have bigger worries than getting to work as evacuations have been ordered in many places. From NBC News,
CNN reports that storm has already cost many lives even before it reaches landfall in the U.S.
As one might expect, even the presidential campaigns are impacted by the storm. NBC News reports:
All this brings to mind the question of global climate change. While no single storm can perhaps be attributed directly to global climate change, there is speculation about whether it has helped create the Frankenstorm.
However, this raises the issue of where the candidates stand on the issue of global climate change and alternative energy sources, as over 900 global climate change studies link the use of fossil fuels to our changing climate. Let’s first look at the Obama campaign:
For the sake of fairness, let’s also examine the positions of the other major candidate, Mitt Romney, Going to the issues page, there is no separate section for the environment. So, I thought that I would check about the issue of energy.
Last I checked, the company that will own the Keystone XL pipeline plans to process the oil in the U.S. and not sell it in the U.S. There is also a great deal of concern about the environmental impact of the pipeline and the processing of tar sands in Canada.
I have to admit that I was mildly surprised that there was no environment section on Mitt Romney’s official campaign site. However, he is in a party where people like Senator James Inhofe of Oklahoma have called global climate change a hoax. Indeed, he was recently awarded the Rubber Dodo award from the Center for Biological Diversity. However, if global climate change is indeed causing more severe weather events from storms to droughts, we may see more discussion nationally and internationally in addressing these issues.
For now, my thoughts are with those whose lives will be impacted by this storm and I hope that the Frankenstorm is not the harbinger of things to come.
Many people have bigger worries than getting to work as evacuations have been ordered in many places. From NBC News,
Hundreds of thousands ordered to evacuate as Sandy nears
Transit systems, including NYC's, have started shutting down in advance of hurricane's onslaught
Giant Hurricane Sandy lumbered toward the East Coast on Sunday, leaving potentially tens of millions of residents with only hours to prepare for its onslaught of punishing wind, torrential rains and, at higher elevations, heavy, wet snow.
Signaling the growing concern over what forecasters predict will be an historic storm, state and local officials, including New York City’s Mayor Michael Bloomberg, issued mandatory evacuation orders for hundreds of thousands of residents in low-lying areas.
Workers on Sunday night began shutting down New York City's subway, bus and commuter railroads , as ordered by New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo. In New Jersey, bus, rail and light rail services were gradually shut down starting Sunday afternoon.
Forecasters said Sandy has the ingredients to transform into a "super storm" as it merges with an Arctic jet stream, which could make the storm unlike anything seen over the eastern United States in decades.
"We're looking at impact of greater than 50 to 60 million people," said Louis Uccellini, head of environmental prediction for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
In anticipation of widespread damage and vast power outages, states of emergency were declared in nine states from North Carolina to Maine, as well as in Washington, D.C., as Sandy made its way north after killing at least 65 people in the Caribbean.
CNN reports that storm has already cost many lives even before it reaches landfall in the U.S.
Hurricane Sandy has caused at least 67 deaths, including 51 in Haiti; the other deaths were in Cuba, Jamaica, Panama, the Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico. As of 8 p.m. Sunday, Sandy still hadn't veered toward the United States and was centered 280 miles east-southeast of Cape Hatteras, North Carolina, and 485 miles south-southeast of New York. The CNN Weather Unit forecasts that it will make landfall late Monday near the Delmarva Peninsula - which includes Delaware and parts of Maryland and Virginia - and southern New Jersey.
As one might expect, even the presidential campaigns are impacted by the storm. NBC News reports:
Hurricane injects uncertainty into presidential campaign
By Michael O'Brien, NBC News
The storm put some of Obama's campaigning on hold, as he canceled a northern Virginia event for that afternoon, along with an event in Colorado Springs on Tuesday. Obama was still set, though, to travel to Youngtown, Ohio on Monday morning. The president appears — for now — intent upon returning to the campaign trail on Tuesday evening in Green Bay, Wis. His campaign also advised on Sunday afternoon that two stops on Wednesday in Ohio would go forward.
The storm might have rearranged Romney's own campaign itinerary, though it's unclear whether the GOP presidential hopeful will be able to return to Virginia soon. Romney didn't address the storm in his remarks in Celine, Ohio, but his running mate, Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan, urged voters in the Buckeye State to keep East Coasters in their thoughts and prayers.
Nonetheless, the hurricane could prove to be the proverbial "October Surprise" of this campaign as it upended other elements of the election well before it had even made landfall.
Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley (D) canceled early voting in his state for Monday, a decision other east coast governors could mirror. That could have an especially pronounced impact on a state like Virginia, a battleground state in the presidential election and home to a competitive Senate race.
Late Sunday, Governor Dannel P. Malloy signed an executive order to extend in-person voter registration in Connecticut to Thursday, Nov. 1. The deadline had originally been Tuesday.
All this brings to mind the question of global climate change. While no single storm can perhaps be attributed directly to global climate change, there is speculation about whether it has helped create the Frankenstorm.
However, this raises the issue of where the candidates stand on the issue of global climate change and alternative energy sources, as over 900 global climate change studies link the use of fossil fuels to our changing climate. Let’s first look at the Obama campaign:
Addressing global climate change
Under President Obama’s watch we have more than doubled production of renewable energy from wind and solar, while investing in over 15,000 clean energy projects across the country. Mitt Romney would cut funding and incentives for clean energy, including ending the tax incentive for wind energy, which could cost 37,000 American jobs. Meanwhile, he would continue providing billions in subsidies to Big Oil companies.
forward
The President has taken historic steps to reduce carbon pollution in the United States, including establishing fuel economy standards that will cut the amount of carbon pollution from cars by a half, proposing standards to decrease carbon pollution from new power plants, and helping us transition to cleaner and more efficient energy sources.
backward
Mitt Romney doubts the science behind climate change and would roll back progress to combat it. He opposed new fuel efficiency standards that will save consumers at the pump and reduce carbon pollution.
For the sake of fairness, let’s also examine the positions of the other major candidate, Mitt Romney, Going to the issues page, there is no separate section for the environment. So, I thought that I would check about the issue of energy.
Open offshore areas for energy development
Mitt will establish the most robust five-year offshore lease plan in history, that opens new areas for resource development – including off the coasts of Virginia and the Carolinas – and sets minimum production targets to increase accountability
.Pursue a North American Energy Partnership
Mitt will approve the Keystone XL pipeline, establish a new regional agreement to facilitate cross-border energy investment, promote and expand regulatory cooperation with Canada and Mexico and institute fast-track regulatory approval processes for cross-border pipelines and other infrastructure.
Last I checked, the company that will own the Keystone XL pipeline plans to process the oil in the U.S. and not sell it in the U.S. There is also a great deal of concern about the environmental impact of the pipeline and the processing of tar sands in Canada.
I have to admit that I was mildly surprised that there was no environment section on Mitt Romney’s official campaign site. However, he is in a party where people like Senator James Inhofe of Oklahoma have called global climate change a hoax. Indeed, he was recently awarded the Rubber Dodo award from the Center for Biological Diversity. However, if global climate change is indeed causing more severe weather events from storms to droughts, we may see more discussion nationally and internationally in addressing these issues.
For now, my thoughts are with those whose lives will be impacted by this storm and I hope that the Frankenstorm is not the harbinger of things to come.
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Comment by 
Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 11:46:17
Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 11:46:17
Good morning, bloggers!
Here is an update, courtesy of NBC:
Be prepared, my friends out East. If you have any chance of getting more supplies before the storm reaches your area, try to do so.
Here is an update, courtesy of NBC:
Sandy strengthens as it bears down on eastern US
Sustained wind levels rise to 85 mph in latest update from National Hurricane Center; 'life-threatening storm surge' feared along coast
NBC News and news services
updated 1 hour 4 minutes ago
Hurricane Sandy strengthened overnight off the mid-Atlantic coast of the United States and is expected to bring a "life-threatening storm surge", the U.S. National Hurricane Center said early Monday.
Maximum sustained winds of about 85 miles per hour were recorded 385 miles southeast of New York City, which forecasters warned could be hit by a wall of water up to 11 feet high.
The center of the storm was forecast to make landfall Monday night, likely in central or southern New Jersey, leaving millions of residents with only hours to prepare for its onslaught.
"We're looking at impact of greater than 50 to 60 million people," said Louis Uccellini, head of environmental prediction for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).
Forecasters said Sandy has the ingredients to transform into a "super storm" as it merges with an Arctic jet stream, which could make the storm unlike anything seen over the eastern United States in decades.
Forecasters said the combination could bring close to a foot of rain in places, a potentially lethal storm surge of 4 to 11 feet across much of the region, and punishing winds that could cause widespread power outages that last for days. The storm could also dump up to 2 feet of snow in Kentucky, North Carolina and West Virginia.
Be prepared, my friends out East. If you have any chance of getting more supplies before the storm reaches your area, try to do so.
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 10/29/2012 12:09:32
trojanrabbit on 10/29/2012 12:09:32
For the moment, I am at work, though I intend to bug out of here a little after lunch before the winds really pick up. People were left to decide for themselves if they wanted to come in to work today. With no school and many government workers told to stay home it makes for an easy commute. Being a few miles inland from Boston and in a valley I think the worst we are supposed to see are wind gusts around 60, maybe a couple of inches of rain, nowhere near as bad as expected along the coast. Since I can see the Boston skyline from work, meaning a clear shot for the wind, I wouldn't be surprised if we lose power here sooner rather than later.
I've started saying that the only oil we would see out of Keystone XL is whatever leaks out.
Only good thing to come out of this is that people were told to get all the political signs out of the ground lest they become projectiles.
Very annoying to see the cancellation scrawl on the bottom of the screen go away during a commercial (showing all the "G"s) then come back after the commercial still going (up to the "J"s). Idiots.
I've started saying that the only oil we would see out of Keystone XL is whatever leaks out.
Only good thing to come out of this is that people were told to get all the political signs out of the ground lest they become projectiles.
Very annoying to see the cancellation scrawl on the bottom of the screen go away during a commercial (showing all the "G"s) then come back after the commercial still going (up to the "J"s). Idiots.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 10/29/2012 12:27:01
wickedpam on 10/29/2012 12:27:01
Lucky me I get to drive home while the worst of it hits the area 
Comment by 
Raine on 10/29/2012 12:35:46
Raine on 10/29/2012 12:35:46
Thanks for filling in Will! I woke up to that news that the storm is gaining strength and may possibly become a Cat 2.
Our area is expected to have the worst winds around 2 in the morning--
I'm going to admit it, at this point, I am getting nervous. After it comes ashore, our area is still in the *red* zone.
Mala, I hope they let you go home early today. *sigh*
Our area is expected to have the worst winds around 2 in the morning--
I'm going to admit it, at this point, I am getting nervous. After it comes ashore, our area is still in the *red* zone.
Mala, I hope they let you go home early today. *sigh*
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 12:38:46
This is actually a really good idea. I haven't heard that suggestion around here yet, We have a mile or so strip of road that has Hundreds. that could pose a really bad danger.
Raine on 10/29/2012 12:38:46
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Only good thing to come out of this is that people were told to get all the political signs out of the ground lest they become projectiles.
This is actually a really good idea. I haven't heard that suggestion around here yet, We have a mile or so strip of road that has Hundreds. that could pose a really bad danger.
Comment by 
TriSec on 10/29/2012 12:41:02
TriSec on 10/29/2012 12:41:02
I still say "bah". Living in the most weather-obsessed part of the country, this has been nothing but hyperbole and histrionics for over a week now.
I don't think the impact in Eastern MA is going to be anywhere near what they think, although I'll defer to Ma Nature on the oceanic front; some of the buoys are reporting 17-foot seas, and the height of the storm is supposed to come at high tide today. Eep!
I know the Mid-Atlantic is under the gun; you guys watch out down there.
Although on the Job front (as in "Book Of"), Mrs. TriSec now has Pneumonia and a partially-collapsed lobe of lung...(was not hospitalized; resting comfortably at home). But with a hurricane bearing down on us, and me with a suppressed immune system, the likelihood of the tree out front lancing the house in two, and then my getting a disease and dying, have increased exponentially.
I would drink heavily today if I could; but it's too soon after treatment for that. Seltzer, anyone?
I don't think the impact in Eastern MA is going to be anywhere near what they think, although I'll defer to Ma Nature on the oceanic front; some of the buoys are reporting 17-foot seas, and the height of the storm is supposed to come at high tide today. Eep!
I know the Mid-Atlantic is under the gun; you guys watch out down there.
Although on the Job front (as in "Book Of"), Mrs. TriSec now has Pneumonia and a partially-collapsed lobe of lung...(was not hospitalized; resting comfortably at home). But with a hurricane bearing down on us, and me with a suppressed immune system, the likelihood of the tree out front lancing the house in two, and then my getting a disease and dying, have increased exponentially.
I would drink heavily today if I could; but it's too soon after treatment for that. Seltzer, anyone?
Comment by TriSec on 10/29/2012 12:43:56
Ah, you're on the rain side of the storm. NE is going to be on the wind side; we'll see.
TriSec on 10/29/2012 12:43:56
Quote by Raine:
This is just the Rainfall. UGH.
Ah, you're on the rain side of the storm. NE is going to be on the wind side; we'll see.
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 12:47:32
And tonite is a full moon!
Raine on 10/29/2012 12:47:32
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Raine:
This is just the Rainfall. UGH.
Ah, you're on the rain side of the storm. NE is going to be on the wind side; we'll see.
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 12:51:50
Your company is run by asshats. Why are you even at work today? The feds are closed today, yes? This totally begs the question why are you at work?
Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 12:51:50
Quote by wickedpam:
Lucky me I get to drive home while the worst of it hits the area
Your company is run by asshats. Why are you even at work today? The feds are closed today, yes? This totally begs the question why are you at work?
Comment by wickedpam on 10/29/2012 12:53:37
I'm not holding my breath.
wickedpam on 10/29/2012 12:53:37
Quote by Raine:
Thanks for filling in Will! I woke up to that news that the storm is gaining strength and may possibly become a Cat 2.
Our area is expected to have the worst winds around 2 in the morning--
I'm going to admit it, at this point, I am getting nervous. After it comes ashore, our area is still in the *red* zone.
Mala, I hope they let you go home early today. *sigh*
I'm not holding my breath.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/29/2012 12:57:21
there are days I wonder. We are open cause grocery stores are open.
wickedpam on 10/29/2012 12:57:21
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:
Lucky me I get to drive home while the worst of it hits the area
Your company is run by asshats. Why are you even at work today? The feds are closed today, yes? This totally begs the question why are you at work?
there are days I wonder. We are open cause grocery stores are open.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 12:58:52
Nerd icon Joss Whedon on Mitt Romney and the Zombie Apocalypse
Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 12:58:52
Nerd icon Joss Whedon on Mitt Romney and the Zombie Apocalypse
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 12:59:59
People aren't buying wine, they are (D&M reference) buying BREAD MILK & TOILET PAPER!
Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 12:59:59
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:
Lucky me I get to drive home while the worst of it hits the area
Your company is run by asshats. Why are you even at work today? The feds are closed today, yes? This totally begs the question why are you at work?
there are days I wonder. We are open cause grocery stores are open.
People aren't buying wine, they are (D&M reference) buying BREAD MILK & TOILET PAPER!
Comment by wickedpam on 10/29/2012 13:04:52
also snacks and alcohol.
Like I said I'm not holding my breath, we have overnight bags in the car and there's a couple hotels close by. I'm hoping he's not going to be so stubborn but I doubt it.
wickedpam on 10/29/2012 13:04:52
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:
Lucky me I get to drive home while the worst of it hits the area
Your company is run by asshats. Why are you even at work today? The feds are closed today, yes? This totally begs the question why are you at work?
there are days I wonder. We are open cause grocery stores are open.
People aren't buying wine, they are (D&M reference) buying BREAD MILK & TOILET PAPER!
also snacks and alcohol.
Like I said I'm not holding my breath, we have overnight bags in the car and there's a couple hotels close by. I'm hoping he's not going to be so stubborn but I doubt it.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/29/2012 13:05:09
wickedpam on 10/29/2012 13:05:09
Quote by Mondobubba:
Nerd icon Joss Whedon on Mitt Romney and the Zombie Apocalypse
Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/29/2012 13:09:09
trojanrabbit on 10/29/2012 13:09:09
The "Sports Talk" idiots felt it was better to complain about the presence of a sign-language interpreter at Governor Patrick's presser yesterday. Given the Pats destruction of the Rams in London and Gronkowski's rather uh......creative (probably will get fined twice by the No Fun League) touchdown dances, I thought they would at least talk about the game. No such luck. Channel clicking time.
At least The "Weather" Channel is on in the break room. Though their idea of a local radar shot is something so small it only takes about 1/4 of the screen. Must be a DirecTV thing.
At least The "Weather" Channel is on in the break room. Though their idea of a local radar shot is something so small it only takes about 1/4 of the screen. Must be a DirecTV thing.
Comment by TriSec on 10/29/2012 13:10:46
TriSec on 10/29/2012 13:10:46
Retail: Vital, Open.
Health Insurance: Closed.
God forbid we cut into anyone's profit margin 60 days before Christmas!
Health Insurance: Closed.
God forbid we cut into anyone's profit margin 60 days before Christmas!
Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/29/2012 13:14:31
Given that BJ's had their Christmas stuff up the last week in fucking SEPTEMBER I'd say that's vitally important, and if Mrs. Rabbit was still working in retail, she'd be expected to be out in this...or else.
Only thing I made sure to have done was my open enrollment (health care etc) selections on Sunday (due Tuesday), just in case the systems go down.
Have a lighting fixture "warming up" before I test it, so I'll be heading into lurk mode for a bit.
trojanrabbit on 10/29/2012 13:14:31
Quote by TriSec:
Retail: Vital, Open.
Health Insurance: Closed.
God forbid we cut into anyone's profit margin 60 days before Christmas!
Given that BJ's had their Christmas stuff up the last week in fucking SEPTEMBER I'd say that's vitally important, and if Mrs. Rabbit was still working in retail, she'd be expected to be out in this...or else.
Only thing I made sure to have done was my open enrollment (health care etc) selections on Sunday (due Tuesday), just in case the systems go down.
Have a lighting fixture "warming up" before I test it, so I'll be heading into lurk mode for a bit.
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 13:17:14
Raine on 10/29/2012 13:17:14
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 13:21:32
Raine on 10/29/2012 13:21:32
I hope Clint peeps into the blog today. I think his area is getting snow. 
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 13:31:36
I thought you would like that. Zombies and Joss Whedon, what more do you need.
Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 13:31:36
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:
Nerd icon Joss Whedon on Mitt Romney and the Zombie Apocalypse
I thought you would like that. Zombies and Joss Whedon, what more do you need.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 13:33:37
NPR reported that the ship hasn't sunk. Some confusion there. Side note, Washington, NC is where until recently Mamma Mondo lived.
Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 13:33:37
NPR reported that the ship hasn't sunk. Some confusion there. Side note, Washington, NC is where until recently Mamma Mondo lived.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/29/2012 13:35:36
Joss is a Pop Culture god
So I've been meaning to ask - are you new to the world of the Browncoat?
wickedpam on 10/29/2012 13:35:36
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:
Nerd icon Joss Whedon on Mitt Romney and the Zombie Apocalypse
I thought you would like that. Zombies and Joss Whedon, what more do you need.
Joss is a Pop Culture god
So I've been meaning to ask - are you new to the world of the Browncoat?
Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/29/2012 13:35:39
trojanrabbit on 10/29/2012 13:35:39
We've just been given the word at work to leave at noon.
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 13:40:02
I don't know when you heard that report because most other outlets in the past hour are reporting that it has.
It's sad.
Raine on 10/29/2012 13:40:02
Quote by Mondobubba:
NPR reported that the ship hasn't sunk. Some confusion there. Side note, Washington, NC is where until recently Mamma Mondo lived.
It's sad.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 14:08:44
Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 14:08:44
Over hear, we have high winds.
Nicole Sandler will be in for Randi today. I will not be shocked if Thom has to have someone fill in for him tomorrow.
Nicole Sandler will be in for Randi today. I will not be shocked if Thom has to have someone fill in for him tomorrow.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 14:08:52
Well it was about 2 hours ago. Not to mention that it was from the first hour of Morning Edition which comes on at six so call it four hours ago.
The Bounty replica wouldn't be the first ship to sink off Hatteras. They don't call it the Graveyard of ships for nothing.
Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 14:08:52
Quote by Raine:I don't know when you heard that report because most other outlets in the past hour are reporting that it has.Quote by Mondobubba:
NPR reported that the ship hasn't sunk. Some confusion there. Side note, Washington, NC is where until recently Mamma Mondo lived.
It's sad.
Well it was about 2 hours ago. Not to mention that it was from the first hour of Morning Edition which comes on at six so call it four hours ago.
The Bounty replica wouldn't be the first ship to sink off Hatteras. They don't call it the Graveyard of ships for nothing.
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 14:11:20
He's got a houseboat here in DC. I'd be surprised if he's in today.
Raine on 10/29/2012 14:11:20
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Over hear, we have high winds.
Nicole Sandler will be in for Randi today. I will not be shocked if Thom has to have someone fill in for him tomorrow.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 14:14:00
I am particularly concerned about Thom's houseboat, as I had this horrific thought that it was going to splinter.
Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 14:14:00
Quote by Raine:He's got a houseboat here in DC. I'd be surprised if he's in today.Quote by Will in Chicago:
Over hear, we have high winds.
Nicole Sandler will be in for Randi today. I will not be shocked if Thom has to have someone fill in for him tomorrow.
I am particularly concerned about Thom's houseboat, as I had this horrific thought that it was going to splinter.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 14:14:03
Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 14:14:03
We are launching a new product today. To that end, I was given a for color pen in the shape of a rocket (clever! :eyeroll:) Staying within the rocket theme, the pen is an ICBM with that has been MIRVed!
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 14:26:06
Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 14:26:06
I titled today's blog Stormwatch, as we are watching the storm. It is also the name of a superhero team in DC Comics.
Since that time, J'Onn J'Onnzz the Martian Manhunter has left the team and will soon be in a spin off of the Justice League book, the Justice League of America. (J'Onn was apparently part of the main Justice League for a little while, but things did not work out as he cleaned their clocks.) So, here is a new team. The Green Lantern here is Simon Baz, a Muslim-American from the Detroit area.
So, if a good team on the environment can be compared to the Justice League, how would I use the same metaphor to characterize the Romney team? I present to you, the Inferior FIve:
This is perhaps slightly better than the Bush administration, who could perhaps best be characterized by the following image:
Since that time, J'Onn J'Onnzz the Martian Manhunter has left the team and will soon be in a spin off of the Justice League book, the Justice League of America. (J'Onn was apparently part of the main Justice League for a little while, but things did not work out as he cleaned their clocks.) So, here is a new team. The Green Lantern here is Simon Baz, a Muslim-American from the Detroit area.
So, if a good team on the environment can be compared to the Justice League, how would I use the same metaphor to characterize the Romney team? I present to you, the Inferior FIve:
This is perhaps slightly better than the Bush administration, who could perhaps best be characterized by the following image:
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 14:26:59
Raine on 10/29/2012 14:26:59
Quote by Will in Chicago:There is an entire community of Houseboats on the DC waterfront.Quote by Raine:He's got a houseboat here in DC. I'd be surprised if he's in today.Quote by Will in Chicago:
Over hear, we have high winds.
Nicole Sandler will be in for Randi today. I will not be shocked if Thom has to have someone fill in for him tomorrow.
I am concerned for all of those people. Many have lived there for years.
I am particularly concerned about Thom's houseboat, as I had this horrific thought that it was going to splinter.
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 14:29:11
David Corn has the Audio.
Raine on 10/29/2012 14:29:11
I'm convinced that if this president is reelected, the war on business and economic freedom will continue. I don't think the president likes you very much. If you're in business, I think he looks at you as a necessary evil—and maybe not so necessary. I love you, all right? I love, I love business. I love people who employ other people, who have dreams and ideas, and are willing to start enterprises, and put people to work—all good things grow from successful enterprises. Businesses—good jobs come from good businesses.
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 14:32:44
There is an entire community of Houseboats on the DC waterfront.
I am concerned for all of those people. Many have lived there for years.
Raine on 10/29/2012 14:32:44
Quote by Will in Chicago:Quote by Raine:He's got a houseboat here in DC. I'd be surprised if he's in today.Quote by Will in Chicago:
Over hear, we have high winds.
Nicole Sandler will be in for Randi today. I will not be shocked if Thom has to have someone fill in for him tomorrow.
I am particularly concerned about Thom's houseboat, as I had this horrific thought that it was going to splinter.
I am concerned for all of those people. Many have lived there for years.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 14:38:21
Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 14:38:21
Here is the video of the new unofficial Obama campaign song:
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 15:04:39
Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 15:04:39
From HuffPo:
Updates show that Romney still supports this position. Greg Sargeant at the Washington Post notes:
Mitt Romney In GOP Debate: Shut Down Federal Disaster Agency, Send Responsibility To The States
During a CNN debate at the height of the GOP primary, Mitt Romney was asked, in the context of the Joplin disaster and FEMA's cash crunch, whether the agency should be shuttered so that states can individually take over responsibility for disaster response.
"Absolutely," he said. "Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction. And if you can go even further, and send it back to the private sector, that's even better. Instead of thinking, in the federal budget, what we should cut, we should ask the opposite question, what should we keep?"
"Including disaster relief, though?" debate moderator John King asked Romney.
"We cannot -- we cannot afford to do those things without jeopardizing the future for our kids," Romney replied. "It is simply immoral, in my view, for us to continue to rack up larger and larger debts and pass them on to our kids, knowing full well that we'll all be dead and gone before it's paid off. It makes no sense at all."
Updates show that Romney still supports this position. Greg Sargeant at the Washington Post notes:
There’s another nugget here worth highlighting, though. In that appearance, Romney also suggested it would be “even better†to send any and all responsibilities of the federal government “to the private sector,†disaster response included. So: Romney essentially favored privatizing disaster response.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 15:08:58
Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 15:08:58
You know if you go to weather.gov just based on the forecast info, it doesn't seem that bad. Just sayin...
Comment by 
BobR on 10/29/2012 15:09:19
BobR on 10/29/2012 15:09:19
Atlantic City: 
Comment by BobR on 10/29/2012 15:12:21
BobR on 10/29/2012 15:12:21
I think those are pieces of the boardwalk floating in the streets
Comment by BobR on 10/29/2012 15:13:24
Really? Right there at the top of the page it says "Sandy Expected to Bring Life-Threatening Storm Surge Flooding to Mid-Atlantic Coast"
BobR on 10/29/2012 15:13:24
Quote by Mondobubba:
You know if you go to weather.gov just based on the forecast info, it doesn't seem that bad. Just sayin...
Really? Right there at the top of the page it says "Sandy Expected to Bring Life-Threatening Storm Surge Flooding to Mid-Atlantic Coast"
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 15:25:29
Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 15:25:29
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 15:26:44
We have a lot of damage already.
Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 15:26:44
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
You know if you go to weather.gov just based on the forecast info, it doesn't seem that bad. Just sayin...
Really? Right there at the top of the page it says "Sandy Expected to Bring Life-Threatening Storm Surge Flooding to Mid-Atlantic Coast"
We have a lot of damage already.
Comment by 
clintster on 10/29/2012 15:31:52
clintster on 10/29/2012 15:31:52
Mornin' all. Well, the snow is falling and school is cancelled in my county. Even though the roads are apparently slick, the dirt driveway to the house is still clear. It's 33 degrees outside, and I am planning on making a pot of chili for dinner and listening to some Vince Guaraldi.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 15:32:06
Did you click on the severe weather links? I meant specifically the day to day forecasts.
Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 15:32:06
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
You know if you go to weather.gov just based on the forecast info, it doesn't seem that bad. Just sayin...
Really? Right there at the top of the page it says "Sandy Expected to Bring Life-Threatening Storm Surge Flooding to Mid-Atlantic Coast"
Did you click on the severe weather links? I meant specifically the day to day forecasts.
Comment by BobR on 10/29/2012 15:34:06
BobR on 10/29/2012 15:34:06
facebook page for Stone Harbor, NJ. The pictures are amazing and it's still several hours until landfall
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 15:34:23
Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 15:34:23
The Ocean City Patch in New Jersey has a photo blog.
Here is an image from Red Hook, Brooklyn from the NY Times and someone named Nick Cope
Ocean City residents pass Seventh Street and Simpson Avenue in a search for higher ground on Monday morning at high tide in Ocean City as a massive coastal storm approached New Jersey. Credit Douglas Bergen
Here is an image from Red Hook, Brooklyn from the NY Times and someone named Nick Cope
Comment by BobR on 10/29/2012 15:36:05
That's not bad?
BobR on 10/29/2012 15:36:05
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
You know if you go to weather.gov just based on the forecast info, it doesn't seem that bad. Just sayin...
Really? Right there at the top of the page it says "Sandy Expected to Bring Life-Threatening Storm Surge Flooding to Mid-Atlantic Coast"
Did you click on the severe weather links? I meant specifically the day to day forecasts.
TONIGHT: Rain. The rain could be heavy at times. Low around 38. Very windy, with a northwest wind 41 to 45 mph, with gusts as high as 70 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New precipitation amounts between 2 and 3 inches possible.
That's not bad?
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 15:40:19
Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 15:40:19
TriSec, do you want me to cover you for Ask A Vet?
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 15:46:45
Bobber, you are missing my point. The rather bland forecast stuff doesn't leap out and say, "BAD SHIT, CAREFUL!" It is rather muted description of facts.
Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 15:46:45
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
You know if you go to weather.gov just based on the forecast info, it doesn't seem that bad. Just sayin...
Really? Right there at the top of the page it says "Sandy Expected to Bring Life-Threatening Storm Surge Flooding to Mid-Atlantic Coast"
Did you click on the severe weather links? I meant specifically the day to day forecasts.TONIGHT: Rain. The rain could be heavy at times. Low around 38. Very windy, with a northwest wind 41 to 45 mph, with gusts as high as 70 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New precipitation amounts between 2 and 3 inches possible.
That's not bad?
Bobber, you are missing my point. The rather bland forecast stuff doesn't leap out and say, "BAD SHIT, CAREFUL!" It is rather muted description of facts.
Comment by 
livingonli on 10/29/2012 15:47:22
livingonli on 10/29/2012 15:47:22
Good morning, everybody. Well, I just got word that my meeting to put down payment has been pushed back to tomorrow and I am still trying to find a mover and they might be all closed today.
Good thing on DirecTV, Channel 349 is up as the Sandy Info channel which is jumping between the local newscasts from New York to Norfolk which really gets you a way to check on the storm. I watched them jump from coverage on WCBS and WABC as well as WTXF in Philadelphia, WBAL in Baltimore, and WVEC in Norfolk. Probably the most interesting way to watch the storm coverage. Right now, they got Bloomberg from WCBS-TV.
Good thing on DirecTV, Channel 349 is up as the Sandy Info channel which is jumping between the local newscasts from New York to Norfolk which really gets you a way to check on the storm. I watched them jump from coverage on WCBS and WABC as well as WTXF in Philadelphia, WBAL in Baltimore, and WVEC in Norfolk. Probably the most interesting way to watch the storm coverage. Right now, they got Bloomberg from WCBS-TV.
Comment by BobR on 10/29/2012 15:51:11
I would hope everyone involved (your current and future landlords, et al) would be understanding.
BobR on 10/29/2012 15:51:11
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning, everybody. Well, I just got word that my meeting to put down payment has been pushed back to tomorrow and I am still trying to find a mover and they might be all closed today.
I would hope everyone involved (your current and future landlords, et al) would be understanding.
Comment by BobR on 10/29/2012 15:51:35
BobR on 10/29/2012 15:51:35
I heard that the pier at Ocean City, MD has been destroyed
Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/29/2012 15:53:12
That type of forecast would not be out of line describing a major winter storm around here, except you change the "inches" to "feet of snow". The storm surge associated with this one is the much bigger problem.
trojanrabbit on 10/29/2012 15:53:12
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
You know if you go to weather.gov just based on the forecast info, it doesn't seem that bad. Just sayin...
Really? Right there at the top of the page it says "Sandy Expected to Bring Life-Threatening Storm Surge Flooding to Mid-Atlantic Coast"
Did you click on the severe weather links? I meant specifically the day to day forecasts.TONIGHT: Rain. The rain could be heavy at times. Low around 38. Very windy, with a northwest wind 41 to 45 mph, with gusts as high as 70 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New precipitation amounts between 2 and 3 inches possible.
That's not bad?
Bobber, you are missing my point. The rather bland forecast stuff doesn't leap out and say, "BAD SHIT, CAREFUL!" It is rather muted description of facts.
That type of forecast would not be out of line describing a major winter storm around here, except you change the "inches" to "feet of snow". The storm surge associated with this one is the much bigger problem.
Comment by TriSec on 10/29/2012 15:53:40
Hi Will.
So far, we still have power, and it's barely windy. (About 12 miles inland). I will remain on duty until further notice.
TriSec on 10/29/2012 15:53:40
Quote by Will in Chicago:
TriSec, do you want me to cover you for Ask A Vet?
Hi Will.
So far, we still have power, and it's barely windy. (About 12 miles inland). I will remain on duty until further notice.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/29/2012 15:55:34
Just heard that power is out at Chez Rabbit's already. Better hope NStar bringing all those crews in helps a bit.
trojanrabbit on 10/29/2012 15:55:34
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Will in Chicago:
TriSec, do you want me to cover you for Ask A Vet?
Hi Will.
So far, we still have power, and it's barely windy. (About 12 miles inland). I will remain on duty until further notice.
Just heard that power is out at Chez Rabbit's already. Better hope NStar bringing all those crews in helps a bit.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 15:56:44
I saw some storm porn on CNN from Ocean City last night the reporter was showing the drained, sea side pool.
Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 15:56:44
Quote by BobR:
I heard that the pier at Ocean City, MD has been destroyed
I saw some storm porn on CNN from Ocean City last night the reporter was showing the drained, sea side pool.
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 15:58:41
i'm sure they will understand. You can't move in if there is no power or if things are dangerous. They will understand.
Raine on 10/29/2012 15:58:41
Quote by BobR:Quote by livingonli:
Good morning, everybody. Well, I just got word that my meeting to put down payment has been pushed back to tomorrow and I am still trying to find a mover and they might be all closed today.
I would hope everyone involved (your current and future landlords, et al) would be understanding.
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 16:01:06
Exactly.
You can call it what you want, I am concerned at the amount of damage I am already seeing.
This is bad and it will get worse.
Raine on 10/29/2012 16:01:06
Quote by trojanrabbit:
That type of forecast would not be out of line describing a major winter storm around here, except you change the "inches" to "feet of snow". The storm surge associated with this one is the much bigger problem.
You can call it what you want, I am concerned at the amount of damage I am already seeing.
This is bad and it will get worse.
Comment by TriSec on 10/29/2012 16:01:11
I'm lucky in that regard - my end of the apartment complex draws off the trunk line on Main Street - we rarely lose power, although the back half of the place often does.
That said, Main Street blew a transformer during Irene and we were out over 30 hours.
TriSec on 10/29/2012 16:01:11
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Just heard that power is out at Chez Rabbit's already. Better hope NStar bringing all those crews in helps a bit.
I'm lucky in that regard - my end of the apartment complex draws off the trunk line on Main Street - we rarely lose power, although the back half of the place often does.
That said, Main Street blew a transformer during Irene and we were out over 30 hours.
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 16:04:50
Glad you checked in Clint. I could go for some chili... 
Raine on 10/29/2012 16:04:50
Quote by clintster:
Mornin' all. Well, the snow is falling and school is cancelled in my county. Even though the roads are apparently slick, the dirt driveway to the house is still clear. It's 33 degrees outside, and I am planning on making a pot of chili for dinner and listening to some Vince Guaraldi.
Comment by livingonli on 10/29/2012 16:05:38
The closing on this house is supposed to be on Friday when we both will have to leave the house. My roomie has to probably stay with someone until she can move down to Myrtle Beach (she did get a place there). But, if we lose power, the close on the house may be pushed back.
The storm channel on DirecTV is now showing WCVB coverage. It is showing some wind and light rain in the Boston area.
livingonli on 10/29/2012 16:05:38
Quote by Raine:i'm sure they will understand. You can't move in if there is no power or if things are dangerous. They will understand.Quote by BobR:Quote by livingonli:
Good morning, everybody. Well, I just got word that my meeting to put down payment has been pushed back to tomorrow and I am still trying to find a mover and they might be all closed today.
I would hope everyone involved (your current and future landlords, et al) would be understanding.
The closing on this house is supposed to be on Friday when we both will have to leave the house. My roomie has to probably stay with someone until she can move down to Myrtle Beach (she did get a place there). But, if we lose power, the close on the house may be pushed back.
The storm channel on DirecTV is now showing WCVB coverage. It is showing some wind and light rain in the Boston area.
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 16:06:15
Raine on 10/29/2012 16:06:15
Cat 2.
Crap.
Crap.
Comment by livingonli on 10/29/2012 16:06:54
livingonli on 10/29/2012 16:06:54
I see a crawl that Me-TV on 5.2 will show the ABC programming pre-empted on the main channel.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/29/2012 16:09:23
We have a supermarket (Roche Bros) next door still doing renovations. It's not uncommon for something stupid going on there to blow the power out.
Could have been the typical MassHole taking down a utility pole, too.
trojanrabbit on 10/29/2012 16:09:23
Quote by TriSec:Quote by trojanrabbit:
Just heard that power is out at Chez Rabbit's already. Better hope NStar bringing all those crews in helps a bit.
I'm lucky in that regard - my end of the apartment complex draws off the trunk line on Main Street - we rarely lose power, although the back half of the place often does.
That said, Main Street blew a transformer during Irene and we were out over 30 hours.
We have a supermarket (Roche Bros) next door still doing renovations. It's not uncommon for something stupid going on there to blow the power out.
Could have been the typical MassHole taking down a utility pole, too.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/29/2012 16:09:52
wickedpam on 10/29/2012 16:09:52
Okay, I love you all, but storm coverage is making me even edgier then I already am.
Comment by TriSec on 10/29/2012 16:12:25
TriSec on 10/29/2012 16:12:25
Say gang, this is 'Murrica....we can't have no hurreecane without a good dose of asshattery, can we?
Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/29/2012 16:13:00
trojanrabbit on 10/29/2012 16:13:00
Just one more measurement and I leaving.
These "worldwide" fixtures are a pain to test. Instead of just testing at the lowest and highest voltages they are designed for (in this case 100 and 277), the lighting standard insists on testing at each standard voltage in the range....meaning 100, 120, 240 and 277. Bleh.
These "worldwide" fixtures are a pain to test. Instead of just testing at the lowest and highest voltages they are designed for (in this case 100 and 277), the lighting standard insists on testing at each standard voltage in the range....meaning 100, 120, 240 and 277. Bleh.
Comment by livingonli on 10/29/2012 16:18:54
livingonli on 10/29/2012 16:18:54
Watching the instant re-air of Momma on Current. And I could have seen Alec Baldwin if he hadn't gotten sick. Momma did say she was getting big names, but at least I saw Rob Reiner (and still picturing him as Mike Stivic 40 years later).
Comment by livingonli on 10/29/2012 16:26:20
livingonli on 10/29/2012 16:26:20
It must be a Hearst thing since I see WBAL and WCVB are using the same graphics package for the storm.
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 16:28:41
Mala, I am pretty nervous myself.
Raine on 10/29/2012 16:28:41
Quote by wickedpam:
Okay, I love you all, but storm coverage is making me even edgier then I already am.
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 16:39:24
Raine on 10/29/2012 16:39:24
Mala, check your email?
Comment by wickedpam on 10/29/2012 16:39:51
responded
wickedpam on 10/29/2012 16:39:51
Quote by Raine:
Mala, check your email?
responded
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 16:41:34
Tri, that is beyond asshattery. It is crazy town nonsense. Numerology and deep God talk, that is a dangerous combination.
Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 16:41:34
Quote by TriSec:
Say gang, this is 'Murrica....we can't have no hurreecane without a good dose of asshattery, can we?
Tri, that is beyond asshattery. It is crazy town nonsense. Numerology and deep God talk, that is a dangerous combination.
Comment by BobR on 10/29/2012 16:42:27
That and the documentarian for Spinal Tap
BobR on 10/29/2012 16:42:27
Quote by livingonli:
Watching the instant re-air of Momma on Current. And I could have seen Alec Baldwin if he hadn't gotten sick. Momma did say she was getting big names, but at least I saw Rob Reiner (and still picturing him as Mike Stivic 40 years later).
That and the documentarian for Spinal Tap
Comment by livingonli on 10/29/2012 16:43:28
He still looks like that except the hair is grayer.
livingonli on 10/29/2012 16:43:28
Quote by BobR:Quote by livingonli:
Watching the instant re-air of Momma on Current. And I could have seen Alec Baldwin if he hadn't gotten sick. Momma did say she was getting big names, but at least I saw Rob Reiner (and still picturing him as Mike Stivic 40 years later).
That and the documentarian for Spinal Tap
He still looks like that except the hair is grayer.
Comment by BobR on 10/29/2012 16:43:43
Is he trying to horn in on Pat Robertson's turf?
BobR on 10/29/2012 16:43:43
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:
Say gang, this is 'Murrica....we can't have no hurreecane without a good dose of asshattery, can we?
Tri, that is beyond asshattery. It is crazy town nonsense. Numerology and deep God talk, that is a dangerous combination.
Is he trying to horn in on Pat Robertson's turf?
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 16:48:21
Raine on 10/29/2012 16:48:21
Lizz Just said they are closing the Bridges in and out of Manhattan at 2 pm.
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 16:48:49
Raine on 10/29/2012 16:48:49
and then I lost my Chicago feed. poop.
poop.
Comment by BobR on 10/29/2012 16:50:10
BobR on 10/29/2012 16:50:10
Comment by clintster on 10/29/2012 17:02:30
clintster on 10/29/2012 17:02:30
I need to rant for a second.
Dear CNN,
I know you're probably suffering from an inferiority complex from being second to FOX News, but could you please stop taking ads from groups that would be far more suited for the Murdoch Propaganda Machine?
Day in and day out, I see ads from various non-renewable energy concerns touting the importance of thinking of the poor oil and coal barons out there. Whether it's the happy-clappy "I'm an energy voter" commericals or the "Help save 'clean coal' or you hate America" spiels, it seems like you have more ads for these than Glenn Beck had for gold and luxury MRE's back in the day.
Stop it. This is hard.
Clintster
PS I also wish your anchors would stop referring to stories as "that train wreck" or "those guys in Saudi Arabia", but we can talk about that another time.
Dear CNN,
I know you're probably suffering from an inferiority complex from being second to FOX News, but could you please stop taking ads from groups that would be far more suited for the Murdoch Propaganda Machine?
Day in and day out, I see ads from various non-renewable energy concerns touting the importance of thinking of the poor oil and coal barons out there. Whether it's the happy-clappy "I'm an energy voter" commericals or the "Help save 'clean coal' or you hate America" spiels, it seems like you have more ads for these than Glenn Beck had for gold and luxury MRE's back in the day.
Stop it. This is hard.
Clintster
PS I also wish your anchors would stop referring to stories as "that train wreck" or "those guys in Saudi Arabia", but we can talk about that another time.
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 17:04:45
Raine on 10/29/2012 17:04:45
Quote by clintster:
I need to rant for a second.
Dear CNN,
I know you're probably suffering from an inferiority complex from being second to FOX News, but could you please stop taking ads from groups that would be far more suited for the Murdoch Propaganda Machine?
Day in and day out, I see ads from various non-renewable energy concerns touting the importance of thinking of the poor oil and coal barons out there. Whether it's the happy-clappy "I'm an energy voter" commericals or the "Help save 'clean coal' or you hate America" spiels, it seems like you have more ads for these than Glenn Beck had for gold and luxury MRE's back in the day.
Stop it. This is hard.
Clintster
PS I also wish your anchors would stop referring to stories as "that train wreck" or "those guys in Saudi Arabia", but we can talk about that another time.
Comment by livingonli on 10/29/2012 17:08:51
livingonli on 10/29/2012 17:08:51
It seems like other than Soledad O'Brien, CNN is falling into the trap of emulating the right-wing tools.
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 17:09:07
Raine on 10/29/2012 17:09:07
Comment by BobR on 10/29/2012 17:11:29
BobR on 10/29/2012 17:11:29
Comment by clintster on 10/29/2012 17:15:09
"Not a great picture here in Delaware."
clintster on 10/29/2012 17:15:09
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
derp.
Second Generation Fox Reporter Peter Doocy Suffers Sad Sandy-Related Wipeout
"Not a great picture here in Delaware."
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 17:27:34
Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 17:27:34
With the concerns about the storm, we overlooked an important endorsement for Elizabeth Warren from the Boston Globe yesterday:
In Senate, Warren would lead where Brown has fallen short
October 28, 2012
Warren sells herself short with her big applause line: “I don’t care about Scott Brown’s truck; I care how he votes.” Yes, her vote would be more reliably in line with Massachusetts’ traditional liberalism. But the real promise in her candidacy lies deeper in her character. She’s a relentless striver whose life story represents the best of American upward mobility. As a young mother, she worked her way through community colleges and state universities to become the nation’s top expert on financial consumer protection.
And after earning an enviable job at Harvard Law School, she pushed her way into the political arena, wrangling with such renowned inside players as Larry Summers and Tim Geithner to achieve her goal of creating a consumer protection bureau. Her crowning achievement, the bureau guards the interests of average citizens contending with credit-card companies, student-loan holders, auto lenders, credit bureaus, and more. Anyone who’s felt powerless to escape a fee that seems unfairly imposed, or to cover an interest rate they didn’t bargain for, owes Warren a debt of gratitude.
The real promise in Warren’s candidacy lies deeper in her character.
The fact that she didn’t stay on the sidelines, enjoying her teaching gig, attests to her commitment to what she believes in. Those who say that Warren’s passionate advocacy won’t play as well in the clubby Senate should consider how much of a senator’s power derives from simply being sharper on the issues, from agreeing to take on the gritty work of writing legislation, and from having a plan in place to seize the political moment. And she’s not, in fact, the diehard Democratic partisan that Brown paints her as; she was a registered Republican for 10 years. She’s every inch her own woman.
On the campaign trail, Warren warns incessantly of a coming crisis in student-loan debt and the challenge it would present both for students and universities. This is a matter of no small concern in the higher-ed capital of the United States, and it’s easy to envision Warren becoming the Senate’s leading policymaker on higher education.
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 17:28:33
Raine on 10/29/2012 17:28:33
Wall Street is closed again tomorrow.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 17:37:39
Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 17:37:39
Breaking "new" on FNC earlier! Romney is ahead of Obama in Ohio by 2 points!*
*This is a Rasmussen poll.
In the real world, ie Nate Silver, Obama's chance of winning Ohio 74.9%
*This is a Rasmussen poll.
In the real world, ie Nate Silver, Obama's chance of winning Ohio 74.9%
Comment by livingonli on 10/29/2012 17:39:16
livingonli on 10/29/2012 17:39:16
Gotta love these intermittent power hits. Haven't lost power completely, but it does seem to cut out for brief instances.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 17:39:26
Nepotism is so ugly
Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 17:39:26
Quote by Raine:
derp.
Second Generation Fox Reporter Peter Doocy Suffers Sad Sandy-Related Wipeout
Nepotism is so ugly
Comment by wickedpam on 10/29/2012 17:47:13
wickedpam on 10/29/2012 17:47:13
FInally got the word - we are closing at 3
Comment by livingonli on 10/29/2012 17:49:04
livingonli on 10/29/2012 17:49:04
Now, the storm crack has cut to PA Gov Tom Corbett on WGAL-Lancaster.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 17:51:50
Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 17:51:50
Comment by wickedpam on 10/29/2012 17:52:47
Pat Collins laughs at Douchy "reporting"
wickedpam on 10/29/2012 17:52:47
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
derp.
Second Generation Fox Reporter Peter Doocy Suffers Sad Sandy-Related Wipeout
Nepotism is so ugly
Pat Collins laughs at Douchy "reporting"
Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/29/2012 18:02:24
trojanrabbit on 10/29/2012 18:02:24
Home now.
Apart from some debris flying around from trucks with stupid owners, an uneventful drive.
It's hard to tell sometimes if the cutouts in the TV picture are from the bad remotes or from the weather, or both.
All 3 cats are dozing in their usual spots.
Looks like Sandy is putting the pedal to the metal, now moving at 28 mph.
Apart from some debris flying around from trucks with stupid owners, an uneventful drive.
It's hard to tell sometimes if the cutouts in the TV picture are from the bad remotes or from the weather, or both.
All 3 cats are dozing in their usual spots.
Looks like Sandy is putting the pedal to the metal, now moving at 28 mph.
Comment by TriSec on 10/29/2012 18:06:37
TriSec on 10/29/2012 18:06:37
The wind is picking up at last. Power still steady.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 18:11:37
Faster is better, Rabbit.
Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 18:11:37
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Home now.
Apart from some debris flying around from trucks with stupid owners, an uneventful drive.
It's hard to tell sometimes if the cutouts in the TV picture are from the bad remotes or from the weather, or both.
All 3 cats are dozing in their usual spots.
Looks like Sandy is putting the pedal to the metal, now moving at 28 mph.
Faster is better, Rabbit.
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 18:11:53
Text me when you and Mom get home. ::hug::
Raine on 10/29/2012 18:11:53
Quote by wickedpam:
FInally got the word - we are closing at 3
Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/29/2012 18:12:54
I suppose. Trading off higher winds (because of the quicker motion) for shorter duration.
trojanrabbit on 10/29/2012 18:12:54
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by trojanrabbit:
Home now.
Apart from some debris flying around from trucks with stupid owners, an uneventful drive.
It's hard to tell sometimes if the cutouts in the TV picture are from the bad remotes or from the weather, or both.
All 3 cats are dozing in their usual spots.
Looks like Sandy is putting the pedal to the metal, now moving at 28 mph.
Faster is better, Rabbit.
I suppose. Trading off higher winds (because of the quicker motion) for shorter duration.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/29/2012 18:13:08
will do
wickedpam on 10/29/2012 18:13:08
Quote by Raine:Text me when you and Mom get home. ::hug::Quote by wickedpam:
FInally got the word - we are closing at 3
will do
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 18:13:33
Raine on 10/29/2012 18:13:33
Gov MCDonnel and Gov O'malley have both had pressers in the past hour. The storm is moving more westward and not tilting to the north quite as much as ppl thought.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/29/2012 18:13:52
trojanrabbit on 10/29/2012 18:13:52
Now I know the apocalypse is here. They've evacuated the toll takers from the Tobin Bridge.
Comment by livingonli on 10/29/2012 18:13:55
livingonli on 10/29/2012 18:13:55
My roomie's cat is just sleeping on her bed now, but she doesn't want to go out since she hears the wind.
Comment by livingonli on 10/29/2012 18:15:36
livingonli on 10/29/2012 18:15:36
The storm may hit the Jersey Shore in 2 and a half hours.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 18:19:38
Are they closing the bridge?
Oh shit got real for us at work. One of our partners in Boston closed their office.
Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 18:19:38
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Now I know the apocalypse is here. They've evacuated the toll takers from the Tobin Bridge.
Are they closing the bridge?
Oh shit got real for us at work. One of our partners in Boston closed their office.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/29/2012 18:23:17
No, it's to allow the traffic to move better.
trojanrabbit on 10/29/2012 18:23:17
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by trojanrabbit:
Now I know the apocalypse is here. They've evacuated the toll takers from the Tobin Bridge.
Are they closing the bridge?
Oh shit got real for us at work. One of our partners in Boston closed their office.
No, it's to allow the traffic to move better.
Comment by clintster on 10/29/2012 18:31:29
In this case, GTS stands for "Get To Shelter!"
clintster on 10/29/2012 18:31:29
Quote by livingonli:
The storm may hit the Jersey Shore in 2 and a half hours.
In this case, GTS stands for "Get To Shelter!"
Comment by livingonli on 10/29/2012 18:35:51
livingonli on 10/29/2012 18:35:51
WBAL is having trouble getting the feed form the reporter in Ocean City because of the wind.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/29/2012 18:37:28
trojanrabbit on 10/29/2012 18:37:28
My voltage monitor went to 150 for about 10 seconds, then everything went dark. Then another little flicker followed by a pop from the TV, now everything out again..
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 18:44:26
Good to know. Around here, bridges + high winds=closed bridges. There are 5 downtown then the Dames Point bridge and the Buckman, which is a mere 3 miles long.
Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 18:44:26
Quote by trojanrabbit:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by trojanrabbit:
Now I know the apocalypse is here. They've evacuated the toll takers from the Tobin Bridge.
Are they closing the bridge?
Oh shit got real for us at work. One of our partners in Boston closed their office.
No, it's to allow the traffic to move better.
Good to know. Around here, bridges + high winds=closed bridges. There are 5 downtown then the Dames Point bridge and the Buckman, which is a mere 3 miles long.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/29/2012 18:47:14
wickedpam on 10/29/2012 18:47:14
shutting down - see ya'll at home!
Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/29/2012 18:49:15
trojanrabbit on 10/29/2012 18:49:15
Gonna shut down for a while. The wireless internets is just too slow and I don't want to waste it.
Comment by livingonli on 10/29/2012 18:53:21
livingonli on 10/29/2012 18:53:21
Now they're saying the storm will hit Atlantic City directly
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 19:00:59
Atlantic City is already devastated by the storm. I dread to think what may happen.
Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 19:00:59
Quote by livingonli:
Now they're saying the storm will hit Atlantic City directly
Atlantic City is already devastated by the storm. I dread to think what may happen.
Comment by livingonli on 10/29/2012 19:08:10
I can't wait to see Trump turn down those Government relief funds...NOT!
livingonli on 10/29/2012 19:08:10
Quote by Will in Chicago:Quote by livingonli:
Now they're saying the storm will hit Atlantic City directly
Atlantic City is already devastated by the storm. I dread to think what may happen.
I can't wait to see Trump turn down those Government relief funds...NOT!
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 19:43:00
Raine on 10/29/2012 19:43:00
The storm has moved so quickly that it's 6 hours ahead of what they originally thought.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 19:49:04
That is kind of a good thing, actually. Yeah it cuts into people's time for fleeing, but it means that the thing will be over much sooner that predicted. The soon Sandy hit land, the faster she breaks up.
Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 19:49:04
Quote by Raine:
The storm has moved so quickly that it's 6 hours ahead of what they originally thought.
That is kind of a good thing, actually. Yeah it cuts into people's time for fleeing, but it means that the thing will be over much sooner that predicted. The soon Sandy hit land, the faster she breaks up.
Comment by TriSec on 10/29/2012 19:50:22
TriSec on 10/29/2012 19:50:22
Had to go out - a couple of pix posted over on FB.
Got my good turn in - we cleared some brush and opened a couple of storm drains while we were out and about.
Got my good turn in - we cleared some brush and opened a couple of storm drains while we were out and about.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 20:00:07
Thanks for getting out there. A friend in Quincy just reported that she lots power -- just after her heater was fixed. Oy vey!
Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 20:00:07
Quote by TriSec:
Had to go out - a couple of pix posted over on FB.
Got my good turn in - we cleared some brush and opened a couple of storm drains while we were out and about.
Thanks for getting out there. A friend in Quincy just reported that she lots power -- just after her heater was fixed. Oy vey!
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 20:10:36
Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 20:10:36
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 20:14:52
Some may not have even gone to trial yet. If people are hurt or die, Mayor Bloomberg is setting the city up for a major lawsuit.
Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 20:14:52
Quote by Mondobubba:
Hey Bloomberg, those people on Riker's *are* human beings, treat them that way.
Some may not have even gone to trial yet. If people are hurt or die, Mayor Bloomberg is setting the city up for a major lawsuit.
Comment by BobR on 10/29/2012 20:14:58
It also means that we'll get the worst of it before we go to bed, so we might actually be able to get some sleep.
BobR on 10/29/2012 20:14:58
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
The storm has moved so quickly that it's 6 hours ahead of what they originally thought.
That is kind of a good thing, actually. Yeah it cuts into people's time for fleeing, but it means that the thing will be over much sooner that predicted. The soon Sandy hit land, the faster she breaks up.
It also means that we'll get the worst of it before we go to bed, so we might actually be able to get some sleep.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/29/2012 20:18:14
wickedpam on 10/29/2012 20:18:14
Home!
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 20:18:44
YAY! and you still have power I see!
Raine on 10/29/2012 20:18:44
Quote by wickedpam:
Home!
YAY! and you still have power I see!
Comment by BobR on 10/29/2012 20:21:15
BobR on 10/29/2012 20:21:15
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
Home!
YAY! and you still have power I see!
Comment by wickedpam on 10/29/2012 20:28:20
yep, Manassas is 80% underground so unless something happens to a substation or to the lines coming to Manassas we should be okay for power. Now we'll probably lose the Sat when it gets worse.
wickedpam on 10/29/2012 20:28:20
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
Home!
YAY! and you still have power I see!
yep, Manassas is 80% underground so unless something happens to a substation or to the lines coming to Manassas we should be okay for power. Now we'll probably lose the Sat when it gets worse.
Comment by livingonli on 10/29/2012 20:33:35
livingonli on 10/29/2012 20:33:35
All of the city bridges (Whitestone, Triborough, Throgs Neck, Cross Bay) will be closing at 7 PM. I scheduled a POD to be dropped off Wednesday to pack my stuff so I just may need some help with moving the furniture and I can get my stuff out of here by Thursday. It looks like at least things are finally falling into place so I only have to worry about losing power during the storm itself.
Comment by TriSec on 10/29/2012 20:37:38
TriSec on 10/29/2012 20:37:38
Brownies in the oven. And yes, Javi did lick the pan clean, raw eggs and all. File me under "bad Papa", then.
brownie mix -->
brownie mix -->
Comment by TriSec on 10/29/2012 20:39:11
Herr, disastermeister, please tell the good folks about the plane crash, circa 1957.
TriSec on 10/29/2012 20:39:11
Quote by Mondobubba:
Hey Bloomberg, those people on Riker's *are* human beings, treat them that way.
Herr, disastermeister, please tell the good folks about the plane crash, circa 1957.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 20:41:06
Good! Stay safe
Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 20:41:06
Quote by wickedpam:
Home!
Good!
Stay safe
Comment by wickedpam on 10/29/2012 20:43:32
Sure thing
In fact don't even have to be in until noon tomorrow, which is nice. Then I'm off on Wednesday - but alas have a dentist appointment (root canals - ugh)
wickedpam on 10/29/2012 20:43:32
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:
Home!
Good!
Sure thing
In fact don't even have to be in until noon tomorrow, which is nice. Then I'm off on Wednesday - but alas have a dentist appointment (root canals - ugh)
Comment by livingonli on 10/29/2012 20:45:00
livingonli on 10/29/2012 20:45:00
Here are the closed bridges;
· Bronx-Whitestone Bridge
· Verrazano-Narrows Bridge
· Henry Hudson Bridge
· Marine Parkway-Gil Hodges Memorial Bridge
· Cross Bay Veterans Memorial Bridge
· George Washington Bridge
· Bronx-Whitestone Bridge
· Verrazano-Narrows Bridge
· Henry Hudson Bridge
· Marine Parkway-Gil Hodges Memorial Bridge
· Cross Bay Veterans Memorial Bridge
· George Washington Bridge
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 20:45:36
You, good and loyal TriSec are the blog's disatermeister. I am but your humble padawan.
Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 20:45:36
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
Hey Bloomberg, those people on Riker's *are* human beings, treat them that way.
Herr, disastermeister, please tell the good folks about the plane crash, circa 1957.
You, good and loyal TriSec are the blog's disatermeister. I am but your humble padawan.
Comment by BobR on 10/29/2012 20:46:31
I made coconut pound cake earlier. I've been licking the bowl since I was little. I think the raw egg concern is way overblown.
BobR on 10/29/2012 20:46:31
Quote by TriSec:
Brownies in the oven. And yes, Javi did lick the pan clean, raw eggs and all. File me under "bad Papa", then.
brownie mix -->
I made coconut pound cake earlier. I've been licking the bowl since I was little. I think the raw egg concern is way overblown.
Comment by TriSec on 10/29/2012 20:58:48
It is relevant to the human population of Riker's Island. In 1957, a NWA DC-6 launched out of LaGuardia and failed to gain altitude, crashing in the midst of the prison. About 70 inmates came out to help the crash survivors. 57 of said inmates had their sentences reduced, and about 11 of them were paroled immediately because of what they did to help.
There may be the incorrigible there, but in a crisis, we're all still human.
TriSec on 10/29/2012 20:58:48
Quote by Mondobubba:
You, good and loyal TriSec are the blog's disatermeister. I am but your humble padawan.
It is relevant to the human population of Riker's Island. In 1957, a NWA DC-6 launched out of LaGuardia and failed to gain altitude, crashing in the midst of the prison. About 70 inmates came out to help the crash survivors. 57 of said inmates had their sentences reduced, and about 11 of them were paroled immediately because of what they did to help.
There may be the incorrigible there, but in a crisis, we're all still human.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 21:01:09
Oh it is. There is something like a 1-10,000 chance of getting salmonella from a raw egg. Still, immuno-suppressed TriSecs should not indulge.
Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 21:01:09
Quote by BobR:Quote by TriSec:
Brownies in the oven. And yes, Javi did lick the pan clean, raw eggs and all. File me under "bad Papa", then.
brownie mix -->
I made coconut pound cake earlier. I've been licking the bowl since I was little. I think the raw egg concern is way overblown.
Oh it is. There is something like a 1-10,000 chance of getting salmonella from a raw egg. Still, immuno-suppressed TriSecs should not indulge.
Comment by clintster on 10/29/2012 21:02:36
clintster on 10/29/2012 21:02:36
Just took a ride down the mountain, and the roads are fine if wet. However, we have a 100% chance of snow, and the roads might be a bit frozen come tomorrow. I'll be posting some pics on FB soon.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 21:03:13
Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 21:03:13
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 21:03:59
Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 21:03:59
Not to rub it it or anything, but it is a freaking beautiful day here.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 21:29:49
Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 21:29:49
When the replica of Bounty was foundering, I don't thing the captain said the following:
Too soon?
Bligh: He was insubordinate, cowardly and insubordinate, he frightened the men, I did not put that fear there, he did. So he will be lashed and we will go around the Horn. Are you frightened to go around the Horn, Mr. Christian? Are you a coward too, sir?
Too soon?
Comment by TriSec on 10/29/2012 21:30:29
TriSec on 10/29/2012 21:30:29
Go get Marti, would you? (see Facebook.)
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 21:34:52
Huh?
Mondobubba on 10/29/2012 21:34:52
Quote by TriSec:
Go get Marti, would you? (see Facebook.)
Huh?
Comment by TriSec on 10/29/2012 21:36:40
TriSec on 10/29/2012 21:36:40
I posted the China Romney hat / Union made Obama hat photo and he's gone and trashed unions like a good lockstep right-winger.
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 21:38:36
I'm bust trying to tell a friend from Montana that Long Island is not being evacuated -- only parts are. She wants to know why they aren't evacuating long Island.
Because it is a logistic impossibility, maybe?
Raine on 10/29/2012 21:38:36
Quote by TriSec:
Go get Marti, would you? (see Facebook.)
I'm bust trying to tell a friend from Montana that Long Island is not being evacuated -- only parts are. She wants to know why they aren't evacuating long Island.
Because it is a logistic impossibility, maybe?
Comment by livingonli on 10/29/2012 21:45:01
3-4 million and all the bridges and tunnels to NYC being closed does make it a bit impossible to get the entire population off the island.
livingonli on 10/29/2012 21:45:01
Quote by Raine:Quote by TriSec:
Go get Marti, would you? (see Facebook.)
I'm bust trying to tell a friend from Montana that Long Island is not being evacuated -- only parts are. She wants to know why they aren't evacuating long Island.
Because it is a logistic impossibility, maybe?
3-4 million and all the bridges and tunnels to NYC being closed does make it a bit impossible to get the entire population off the island.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 21:46:17
Because it would actually require something like the Justice League or the U.S.S. Entereprise with functioning transporters to do the job?
Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 21:46:17
Quote by Raine:Quote by TriSec:
Go get Marti, would you? (see Facebook.)
I'm bust trying to tell a friend from Montana that Long Island is not being evacuated -- only parts are. She wants to know why they aren't evacuating long Island.
Because it is a logistic impossibility, maybe?
Because it would actually require something like the Justice League or the U.S.S. Entereprise with functioning transporters to do the job?
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 21:50:34
Exactly.
Raine on 10/29/2012 21:50:34
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:Quote by TriSec:
Go get Marti, would you? (see Facebook.)
I'm bust trying to tell a friend from Montana that Long Island is not being evacuated -- only parts are. She wants to know why they aren't evacuating long Island.
Because it is a logistic impossibility, maybe?
3-4 million and all the bridges and tunnels to NYC being closed does make it a bit impossible to get the entire population off the island.
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 21:51:08
Well played, Will. Well played,
Raine on 10/29/2012 21:51:08
Quote by Will in Chicago:Quote by Raine:Quote by TriSec:
Go get Marti, would you? (see Facebook.)
I'm bust trying to tell a friend from Montana that Long Island is not being evacuated -- only parts are. She wants to know why they aren't evacuating long Island.
Because it is a logistic impossibility, maybe?
Because it would actually require something like the Justice League or the U.S.S. Entereprise with functioning transporters to do the job?
Well played, Will. Well played,
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 22:16:17
Hello, this is the Justice League! We can't come to the phone right now, as someone is kicking our asses! Yes, we know that our current run sucks! Please leave a message after the beep.
Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 22:16:17
Quote by Raine:Quote by Will in Chicago:Quote by Raine:Quote by TriSec:
Go get Marti, would you? (see Facebook.)
I'm bust trying to tell a friend from Montana that Long Island is not being evacuated -- only parts are. She wants to know why they aren't evacuating long Island.
Because it is a logistic impossibility, maybe?
Because it would actually require something like the Justice League or the U.S.S. Entereprise with functioning transporters to do the job?
Hello, this is the Justice League! We can't come to the phone right now, as someone is kicking our asses! Yes, we know that our current run sucks! Please leave a message after the beep.
Comment by livingonli on 10/29/2012 22:18:20
livingonli on 10/29/2012 22:18:20
Just heard one of the trees outside go thud. And the internet was out for a few minutes but everything else is holding out.
Comment by livingonli on 10/29/2012 22:19:21
livingonli on 10/29/2012 22:19:21
Sounds like someone else is not a fan of the New 52 reboot of the DC universe.
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 22:24:11
Raine on 10/29/2012 22:24:11
Chris Christie is an abhorrent douchenozzle.
That is all.
That is all.
Comment by livingonli on 10/29/2012 22:31:21
livingonli on 10/29/2012 22:31:21
What did Christie do now
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 22:34:06
In a nutshell -- he told Atlantic City to fuck themselves becuase the mayor told the residents to go to city shelters instead of evacuating. He said they are on their own now and he wont waste state first responders on the city.
That is shitty.
Raine on 10/29/2012 22:34:06
Quote by livingonli:
What did Christie do now
In a nutshell -- he told Atlantic City to fuck themselves becuase the mayor told the residents to go to city shelters instead of evacuating. He said they are on their own now and he wont waste state first responders on the city.
That is shitty.
Comment by Raine on 10/29/2012 22:34:51
Raine on 10/29/2012 22:34:51
I don;t care how irresponsible someone may think a Mayor is -- Christie is still the governor of the entire damn state.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 22:42:33
I think that a lot of people will be furious at Christie if there are deaths in Atlantic City. There will be a lot of investigations in such a case. Is it me,or is this disaster showing the absurdity of the approach that Romney argued about FEMA -- putting it on a state level or privatizing the agency.
Will in Chicago on 10/29/2012 22:42:33
Quote by Raine:Quote by livingonli:
What did Christie do now
In a nutshell -- he told Atlantic City to fuck themselves becuase the mayor told the residents to go to city shelters instead of evacuating. He said they are on their own now and he wont waste state first responders on the city.
That is shitty.
I think that a lot of people will be furious at Christie if there are deaths in Atlantic City. There will be a lot of investigations in such a case. Is it me,or is this disaster showing the absurdity of the approach that Romney argued about FEMA -- putting it on a state level or privatizing the agency.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/29/2012 22:50:26
wickedpam on 10/29/2012 22:50:26
has anyone heard from scoop
Comment by Raine on 10/30/2012 00:17:13
HE got back from Philly yesterday. So I know he got home.
Raine on 10/30/2012 00:17:13
Quote by wickedpam:
has anyone heard from scoop
Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/30/2012 00:39:09
trojanrabbit on 10/30/2012 00:39:09
Still no power and I don't expect it any time in the near future. Of course right on the dividing line of half the town without power.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/30/2012 01:30:09
Will in Chicago on 10/30/2012 01:30:09
Storm update from NBC. There are casualties.
Superstorm Sandy plows into coast; three killed
3.1 million without power; sustained winds at 80 mph; transportation crippled
By M. Alex Johnson
NBC News
updated 2 hours 7 minutes ago
Hurricane Sandy began breaking up as it hit the New Jersey shore Monday evening on what's expected to be a destructive path across the Northeast, killing three people, plunging more than 3 million into darkness and crippling transportation across a huge swath of the Eastern U.S.
New in this version
Three people killed
9 p.m. ET position
Record water level in New York's Battery Park
Sandy made landfall at Atlantic City, N.J., about 6:45 p.m. ET, throwing off sustained winds of 90 mph, NBC New York reported. By 9 p.m. ET, its center was about 15 miles northwest of Atlantic City, and maximum sustained winds were 80 mph.
The National Hurricane Center re-designated Sandy as a "post-tropical cyclone," saying it was rapidly losing its tropical characteristics as it merged into an enormous nor'easter. While it was still packing hurricane-force winds, the worst appeared to be over, said Bill Karins, a meteorologist with The Weather Channel.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/30/2012 01:44:33
Will in Chicago on 10/30/2012 01:44:33
CNN reports that six people have died in the U.S.
Floodwaters have made their way into several subway stations in Lower Manhattan, MTA spokesman Kevin Ortiz said. The transportation agency reported, on its Twitter feed, that "up to four feet of seawater is entering subway tunnels under the East River."
Comment by TriSec on 10/30/2012 02:05:43
:We had that happen in this city...circa October 1996. There was a major rain event, and the Muddy River overflowed right into the Green Line subway. Kenmore Square up as far as Auditorium station was filled to the rafters. They've since installed an emergency cofferdam, and it hasn't happened again since.
TriSec on 10/30/2012 02:05:43
Quote by Will in Chicago:
CNN reports that six people have died in the U.S.
:We had that happen in this city...circa October 1996. There was a major rain event, and the Muddy River overflowed right into the Green Line subway. Kenmore Square up as far as Auditorium station was filled to the rafters. They've since installed an emergency cofferdam, and it hasn't happened again since.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/30/2012 02:52:09
Are you still good to go for Ask A Vet?
Will in Chicago on 10/30/2012 02:52:09
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Will in Chicago:
CNN reports that six people have died in the U.S.
:We had that happen in this city...circa October 1996. There was a major rain event, and the Muddy River overflowed right into the Green Line subway. Kenmore Square up as far as Auditorium station was filled to the rafters. They've since installed an emergency cofferdam, and it hasn't happened again since.
Are you still good to go for Ask A Vet?
Comment by Raine on 10/30/2012 03:08:36
I hate that Shite.
Raine on 10/30/2012 03:08:36
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Still no power and I don't expect it any time in the near future. Of course right on the dividing line of half the town without power.
Comment by Raine on 10/30/2012 03:27:21
Raine on 10/30/2012 03:27:21
I just want to Reiterate.
Will is awesome.
Will is awesome.