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Tyranny!
Author: BobR    Date: 01/18/2013 14:01:17

On Wednesday, President Barack Obama released his comprehensive plan to reduce gun violence in general, and gun deaths in particular. It included a combination of legislative requests and Executive Orders. It is the latter that has the right-wing media and pundits, NRA apologists, and 2nd Amendment revisors out in full high dudgeon. How dare "King Obama" ignore the legislative branch with his actions (despite Dubya doing the same 291 times)? It's a wonder the TV cameras aren't covered in spittle.

So what exactly is in those 23 Executive Orders? Let's take a look:

  1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.

  2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.

  3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.

  4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.

  5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.

  6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.

  7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

  8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).

  9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.

  10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.

  11. Nominate an ATF director.

  12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.

  13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.

  14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

  15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.

  16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

  17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.

  18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

  19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.

  20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.

  21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
  22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.

  23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.

Wow - that is serious tyranny huh? Writing letters, clearing up red tape, and enforcing existing laws is just the same as Stalin...

This constant repetition of the word "tyranny" is likely not an accident. One of the favorite quotes of those whose lives revolve around their guns (other than the 2nd Amendment with the "well-regulated militia" part left out) is this quote by Thomas Jefferson: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants." In their minds it dovetails with the 2nd Amendment as permission to own as much firepower as necessary to overthrow the government.

The notion of doing so, of course, is ludicrous. Even with assault rifles, a rag-tag bunch of rednecks would be a pile of bloody meat by the time the Marines got done with them. Oddly, these are generally the same people that shout "support the troops!" That's going to be some serious cognitive dissonance when they are shouting that while being fired upon by same said troops.

These people also say that an armed person can help out in a situation. Has that ever happened? Perhaps once or twice. But the police acknowledge that even they need to undergo regular training to keep their skills sharp when there is incoming fire. The natural reaction of the average person is to duck and run, and then fumble for their gun. While they're fumbling, they're also dead.

There's also the "burgler" rationale. Do these people keep a loaded gun in the nightstand ready for use? If they have kids in the house, they better not. More likely, their guns are safely unloaded and locked in a gun safe. That's not much help in the middle of the night, is it?

When discussing something like reducing gun deaths, it's always good to look at the numbers and see where the big ones are and focusing on reducing those first. So here is some data from 2006 and 1998 that breaks it down. Obviously the numbers don't add up completely because they are from two different years:

Gun Incidents:







Type Fatal NonFatal
Unintentional 1181 13688
Intentional 15371 50067
Self-Inflicted 18227 4513
Undetermined 429 11117
TOTAL 35208 79385

breaking down the "intentional" part a little more:

fatalities:








Type Gun Non-Gun
Felony 1784 536
Argument 2943 1671
Gang 896 53
Other 1191 811
Unknown 4532 1210
TOTAL 11346 4281


what does that all mean? It means that out of 35K gun-related deaths in a year, only 1784 of them occurred as part of a crime. You have a greater chance of being shot dead as a result of an argument. You have nearly as much of a chance getting killed accidentally. Suicides with a gun are off the charts.

These deaths and injuries are easily reduced by removing guns from the equation. I could not find any statistics that denote how many of these were with guns obtained illegally, or without a background check. The suicides obviously fall under the "mental health" issue. These are also relatively old statistics. Still - 5% of gun deaths as a result of a felony is a pretty small number to reinforce the "protect my home" meme, when you have a much greater chance of killing yourself or a loved one with your own gun.

So perhaps this is what is meant by "tyranny" - the government trying to keep us from hurting ourselves via our own ineptness and stupidity. Yes - just like Stalin.
 

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Comment by wickedpam on 01/18/2013 14:27:39
Morning

Comment by Raine on 01/18/2013 14:30:54
Good morning!

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/18/2013 14:31:15
Well done Bobber.

Comment by wickedpam on 01/18/2013 14:36:25
nuns can be lawyers?

Comment by Raine on 01/18/2013 14:38:54
Quote by wickedpam:
nuns can be lawyers?
I think it depends upon the order.

but why not? Some are teachers. Some are nurses.


Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/18/2013 14:43:57
Good morning, bloggers!!! BobR, thanks for a great blog today.

I think that we have people who are afraid, and it is going to be very hard to get past their fears. We are having a national dialog on guns as well as many other issues. (Poverty should be part of the discussion. We have many poor neighborhoods in Chicago where desperate people turn to crime -- including joining gangs. In turn, many innocent people have been shot in gang violence.)

Comment by wickedpam on 01/18/2013 14:47:17
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
nuns can be lawyers?
I think it depends upon the order.

but why not? Some are teachers. Some are nurses.



I did not know that about nuns - cool. Hey, the only things I know about nuns is what I got from Sound of Music and The Trouble with Angels

Comment by TriSec on 01/18/2013 14:51:54
Morning, comrades.



Comment by Mondobubba on 01/18/2013 14:57:52
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
nuns can be lawyers?
I think it depends upon the order.

but why not? Some are teachers. Some are nurses.



My MiL's former boss' sister, the Sister was actively involved with the Vatican's finances. Nun's can be pretty much anything they want as long as it is within the ministry of the order, yeah.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/18/2013 14:58:41
Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades.




Wassamatter Little Buddy?

Comment by TriSec on 01/18/2013 15:07:36
Long-term effects are spiking up...plus a general feeling of poopiness.

I keep an enemies list, and have for some time. It never occured to me to add "Big C", but I may be doing that soon.

Fascist Bastard that it is.




Comment by Mondobubba on 01/18/2013 15:13:21
Quote by TriSec:
Long-term effects are spiking up...plus a general feeling of poopiness.

I keep an enemies list, and have for some time. It never occured to me to add "Big C", but I may be doing that soon.

Fascist Bastard that it is.





Ugh, that sucks rhino. Yes by all means add the Big C to the Official TriSec Enemies List (even though it makes you look like Nixon)!

Comment by TriSec on 01/18/2013 15:18:55
On the plus side though, the crushing fatiigue I've had the last month or so seems to be receding. I can avoid crashing if I stay off the couch when I get home, but if I lie down for even ten minutes, it's all over.

(Like tonight - I have a Pack Meeting. I can keep going, but after the meeting...)


Comment by wickedpam on 01/18/2013 15:19:06
So according a "friends" of a very nice right wing friend of mine - I have now clue that there will be no SS for someone who is 33 when she retires and I'm misinformed cause I don't watch Fox and apparently don't look up enough stuff on the internet

Comment by Scoopster on 01/18/2013 15:33:18
Mornin' all! & Happy Fridee!!

Well, I survived the week without a red cent. For my next trick, I'm going to make this bagel & cup of coffee disappear!

Comment by Raine on 01/18/2013 15:33:39
Quote by wickedpam:
So according a "friends" of a very nice right wing friend of mine - I have now clue that there will be no SS for someone who is 33 when she retires and I'm misinformed cause I don't watch Fox and apparently don't look up enough stuff on the internet
Ugh.


Comment by wickedpam on 01/18/2013 15:36:38
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
So according a "friends" of a very nice right wing friend of mine - I have now clue that there will be no SS for someone who is 33 when she retires and I'm misinformed cause I don't watch Fox and apparently don't look up enough stuff on the internet
Ugh.



I kinda feel bad, my RW Friend didn't actually mean to start something that caused the discussion she got, I was just correcting her on something and it spun a little out of her control. For her sake I deflected to Dr. Who.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/18/2013 15:50:16
Bother! Got off the phone with one of my docs. I gotta stop the cipro and go to the ER. FUCK!

Comment by Scoopster on 01/18/2013 15:52:15
Quote by Mondobubba:
Bother! Got off the phone with one of my docs. I gotta stop the cipro and go to the ER. FUCK!

Oh noes!! What's happening?!

Comment by wickedpam on 01/18/2013 15:52:45
Quote by Mondobubba:
Bother! Got off the phone with one of my docs. I gotta stop the cipro and go to the ER. FUCK!


oh no! Be safe and ~~~~~~~~~~~ healing vibes~~~~~~~~~~~~


Comment by Raine on 01/18/2013 16:05:51
Mondo called, evidently one of the Cipro side effects is tendonitis. Specifically burstiing achilles tendons.

so before it gets worse the Doctor wants to make sure that this particular thing doesn't happen. It hasn't ruptured, so this is precautionary.

He's more upset about having to sit in an ER for the day than anything else.



Comment by BobR on 01/18/2013 16:13:13
Quote by Raine:
Mondo called, evidently one of the Cipro side effects is tendonitis. Specifically burstiing achilles tendons.

so before it gets worse the Doctor wants to make sure that this particular thing doesn't happen. It hasn't ruptured, so this is precautionary.

He's more upset about having to sit in an ER for the day than anything else.


Nothing like sitting for hours while watching more critical patients spewing blood go past you every few minutes


Comment by Scoopster on 01/18/2013 16:15:24
Comment by BobR on 01/18/2013 16:19:06
Comment by wickedpam on 01/18/2013 16:22:03
Quote by Raine:
Mondo called, evidently one of the Cipro side effects is tendonitis. Specifically burstiing achilles tendons.

so before it gets worse the Doctor wants to make sure that this particular thing doesn't happen. It hasn't ruptured, so this is precautionary.

He's more upset about having to sit in an ER for the day than anything else.




exploding tendons?! oh wow.

Hope he brings a good book.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/18/2013 16:35:10
I can not tell you how annoying this tedious back at the ER horseshit is!

Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/18/2013 16:39:07
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Mondo called, evidently one of the Cipro side effects is tendonitis. Specifically burstiing achilles tendons.

so before it gets worse the Doctor wants to make sure that this particular thing doesn't happen. It hasn't ruptured, so this is precautionary.

He's more upset about having to sit in an ER for the day than anything else.




exploding tendons?! oh wow.

Hope he brings a good book.



I hope that Mondo will not have to long to wait and that all will be well with him.

Meanwhile, as I am not subbing today and waiting to hear on recent interviews, I am job hunting.

Even if I get something here, another out of state license might be a good idea as I can always move after a few years.

Comment by BobR on 01/18/2013 16:39:07
Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/18/2013 16:43:34
Quote by BobR:
Porno scanners are on their way out

good news indeed.



This is good news. I wondered if I would live long enough to see some changes to what has been put in place after September 11, 2001. (I really don't mind removing my shoes much, but some people surely need to use odor eaters for their shoes.)

Comment by wickedpam on 01/18/2013 16:45:52
alright, so if a shotgun creates more damage then an AR-15 then why do we have AR-15's? they sound like a piece of crap gun

Comment by livingonli on 01/18/2013 16:50:14
Good morning, folks. One of my facebook friends reported that there is a lockdown in Hewlett because some kid might have a gun. And to think that used to be one town over for me when I lived closer to the city.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/18/2013 16:54:19
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Mondo called, evidently one of the Cipro side effects is tendonitis. Specifically burstiing achilles tendons.

so before it gets worse the Doctor wants to make sure that this particular thing doesn't happen. It hasn't ruptured, so this is precautionary.

He's more upset about having to sit in an ER for the day than anything else.




exploding tendons?! oh wow.

Hope he brings a good book.


Amazing! I've already seen the ER doc! The pulse-ox meter finger clip makes for a great phone rest.

Comment by Raine on 01/18/2013 16:54:59
SO tired of the gun talk.

I don;t CARE about guns specifics -- I don;t care anymore.

Comment by Raine on 01/18/2013 16:55:38
Quote by BobR:
Porno scanners are on their way out

good news indeed.
Michael Chertoff has a sad....


Comment by wickedpam on 01/18/2013 16:55:38
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Mondo called, evidently one of the Cipro side effects is tendonitis. Specifically burstiing achilles tendons.

so before it gets worse the Doctor wants to make sure that this particular thing doesn't happen. It hasn't ruptured, so this is precautionary.

He's more upset about having to sit in an ER for the day than anything else.




exploding tendons?! oh wow.

Hope he brings a good book.


Amazing! I've already seen the ER doc! The pulse-ox meter finger clip makes for a great phone rest.


well that was timely - guess you got them at a lull


Comment by Mondobubba on 01/18/2013 16:57:08
Quote by wickedpam:
alright, so if a shotgun creates more damage then an AR-15 then why do we have AR-15's? they sound like a piece of crap gun


Because you can't have as many orgas...I mean have the same high rate of fire with the shotgun.

Comment by wickedpam on 01/18/2013 17:01:22
Quote by Raine:
SO tired of the gun talk.

I don;t CARE about guns specifics -- I don;t care anymore.



seriously the more they talk about shot guns the more I wonder why we have any other guns - these shot guns they speak of sounds all powerful.



Comment by Scoopster on 01/18/2013 17:02:12
Quote by Raine:
Quote by BobR:
Porno scanners are on their way out

good news indeed.
Michael Chertoff has a sad....

You mean a softee?

Comment by wickedpam on 01/18/2013 17:03:00
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
alright, so if a shotgun creates more damage then an AR-15 then why do we have AR-15's? they sound like a piece of crap gun


Because you can't have as many orgas...I mean have the same high rate of fire with the shotgun.



I don't know what an orgas is.

So its a shredder? We have woodchippers for that already - the gun sounds redundant

Comment by BobR on 01/18/2013 17:05:32
Quote by wickedpam:
alright, so if a shotgun creates more damage then an AR-15 then why do we have AR-15's? they sound like a piece of crap gun

The idea of a lightweight rapid fire gun in the theatre of battle is to lay down "cover fire" to allow the troops to advance. Hence, the "assault" in the description.

Comment by livingonli on 01/18/2013 17:08:45
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
alright, so if a shotgun creates more damage then an AR-15 then why do we have AR-15's? they sound like a piece of crap gun


Because you can't have as many orgas...I mean have the same high rate of fire with the shotgun.


I don't know what an orgas is.

So its a shredder? We have woodchippers for that already - the gun sounds redundant


Short for orgasm (note that it was cut short). Just think of the comparisons of gun ownership (like SUV ownership) and how it relates to how men feel about the size of their manhood.

Comment by wickedpam on 01/18/2013 17:09:24
Quote by BobR:
Quote by wickedpam:
alright, so if a shotgun creates more damage then an AR-15 then why do we have AR-15's? they sound like a piece of crap gun

The idea of a lightweight rapid fire gun in the theatre of battle is to lay down "cover fire" to allow the troops to advance. Hence, the "assault" in the description.


yes, but that's a battle field - what I'm being a nudge about is that if a shot gun creates more damage like all these gun people who call up saying then why do they want an ar-15 that seem to only be a hand held woodchipper

Comment by wickedpam on 01/18/2013 17:10:42
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
alright, so if a shotgun creates more damage then an AR-15 then why do we have AR-15's? they sound like a piece of crap gun


Because you can't have as many orgas...I mean have the same high rate of fire with the shotgun.


I don't know what an orgas is.

So its a shredder? We have woodchippers for that already - the gun sounds redundant


Short for orgasm (note that it was cut short). Just think of the comparisons of gun ownership (like SUV ownership) and how it relates to how men feel about the size of their manhood.



oohhh - I was being dense there


Comment by Mondobubba on 01/18/2013 17:42:38
When I spend $150.00 in an hour, I expect, no DEMAND an happy ending.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/18/2013 17:44:44
BTW my last comment should let you know I am done with the ER and back at work. :grumble:

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/18/2013 17:48:22
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
SO tired of the gun talk.

I don;t CARE about guns specifics -- I don;t care anymore.



seriously the more they talk about shot guns the more I wonder why we have any other guns - these shot guns they speak of sounds all powerful.



They have a very limited range. And they aren't as "manly" as assault rifles.

Comment by livingonli on 01/18/2013 17:51:17
In Hockey news, the Bruins' Teabagger Thomas has been suspended for comments he made and they were not his stupid political ones.

Comment by Scoopster on 01/18/2013 18:01:50
Quote by livingonli:
In Hockey news, the Bruins' Teabagger Thomas has been suspended for comments he made and they were not his stupid political ones.

b..b...but I thought he got traded to the Avs?

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/18/2013 19:01:59
Tri, thoughts on AA's new corporate dress for its fleet o' planes?

Comment by Scoopster on 01/18/2013 19:05:27
Quote by Mondobubba:
Tri, thoughts on AA's new corporate dress for its fleet o' planes?

Mondo I hope you didn't get a firesale discount on some 787 Dreamliners..