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You Say You Want a Revolution
Author: BobR    Date: 07/04/2013 14:26:50

Eleven score and 17 years ago, our forefathers declared their independence from the monarchy in England. The colonies had endured decades of rule which seemed only interested in using them as labor to enrich the home country. The residents in England had a say in the governance, but the colonists did not. Thus, they ended up getting the short end of any regulations. This was the root of the "no taxation without representation" mantra that ultimately resulted in the colonies declaring their freedom from England 237 years ago today.

After the war ended and we had won our freedom, a framework was put into place to create a representative democracy, where people elected a congress and president to speak and act for them. It's been tweaked a little through the years, but it is still the framework we use to this day. The problem with democracy is that there is always a minority on the losing end of election day that is not happy. Any alternative, however, is worse, so we have live with the reality that there will always be those unhappy with the government.

The American "experiment" has been a bit of a roller-coaster with its ups and downs through the decades. There are some who look with wistfulness at the original Revolution and think it's time for another. The Left and some libertarians decry the consistency of war, the intrusions into privacy, the ways that certain demographics are denied rights. The Right decries any attempts to curtail gun ownership, the "secularization" of government and society, taxation in general.

What if? What happens post-revolution?

In February 1979, the government of Iran was toppled. After 400 years of monarchy, the people overthrew the government. The Left was angry with social injustice and increasing brutality. The Right was angry over the "westernization" of society. After the smoke cleared, it was clear the Right was dominate and installed the Ayatollah Khomeini as the new leader. Iran has been an Islamist state ever since.

In December 2010, a fruit cart vendor in Tunisia, frustrated over the ongoing treatment of himself and others like him by brutal and corrupt police, set himself on fire in protest. The flames of protest spread throughout the entire North African continent and into the Middle East. The governments of Tunisa, Libya, and Egypt all fell. Syria is still embattled.

In Egypt, Mubarek was ousted, and a new government was created. Elections were held. Morsi won those elections by a slim margin in June 2012. In the year hence, he has not implemented the reforms promised as quickly as the people would like. He has also been leaning towards implementing elements of Islam into the government.

As a result, the people of Egypt returned to the streets in protest, and once again ousted their leader. Once again, the military is running Egypt, while another election is being lined up. What will be the results of that election? Will the majority once again elect a conservative? Will the people grow impatient and repeat their protests again next year? Is this sort of mob rule really the best way to run a country?

The idea of a revolution is to replace a government which suffers no consequences for their actions with one where the people can choose via Democratic means to replace them if they so choose. We did that in 1776 - we now replace our leaders all the time via a "majority rule" practice of voting. Egypt did the same, but grew impatient before the next election.

And Iran? If some of those people rioting and protesting were hoping for a more representative government, they were surely unhappy with the results. At the end of the battle, it is generally the group with the most firepower (and the willingness to use it) that takes control. How they will wield that power is always a bit uncertain. We in America were very fortunate to have wise men with the best interests of the people at heart. Were this to happen again today, I am not so sure that would be the case. I wonder how many people in Iran wished they hadn't made the trade from Monarchy to Theocracy? I wonder how many people in Egypt protesting in Cairo this week voted for Morsi, and how many didn't?

Ultimately, while I am unhappy with some aspects of our government, I know it is within our power to make changes via the polling place. That is the kind of change I trust - a time-tested democracy. You can keep your revolution.
 

11 comments (Latest Comment: 07/05/2013 02:05:27 by TriSec)
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Comment by Raine on 07/04/2013 15:34:05
I'm very on the fence about what is happening in Egypt; people gave their lives for our independence from Britain -- I happen to love this country warts and all, I vote and I participate be it through grassroots organizing, community participation and shouting from the rafter what I think is wrong and unjust. I don't want to trade that for a government overthrow, ever.

It may sound jingoistic, but that would be a slap in the face of those that died for the right to exist as the United States of America. I'd rather fight to make this a more perfect union.

Excellent post Bobber.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/04/2013 19:22:06
Happy Independence Day!! BobR thanks for a great blog!

Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/04/2013 19:23:17
Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/04/2013 19:28:24
The sort of revolution that I prefer are peaceful ones. Some historians refer to the election of 1800 as the Revolution of 1800, as we saw a peaceful change from the John Adams administration to that of Thomas Jefferson. Similarly, we have seen great change by peaceful means in this country -- from the women's suffrage movement, labor movement, the election of FDR, the civil rights movement and the environmental movement.

Violence must be the last resort for a populace trying to change their government. One could argue that peaceful protest has a better record of success.

I am saddened at how the situation in Egypt developed and hope that there is a return to civilian rule. There must be some way to reconcile the different sides in that ancient land. In the end, my hope is that the people of Egypt remember that what unites them is more powerful and important than what divides them. Being aware of American and European history, I know that it was a long road to get to where we are now in terms of a system of governance. I hope that it goes well for Egypt/

Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/04/2013 19:30:28
I seem to be finding only sad news today: Body of Colorado Senator Mark Udall's brother found

May James Udall's memory be for a blessing. I feared that this would end badly.

Comment by Raine on 07/04/2013 19:59:44
meanwhile, in Egypt...

Comment by livingonli on 07/04/2013 20:58:57
Off to work and it looks like another Met game going long

Comment by BobR on 07/04/2013 20:58:57
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Some tragic news from a parade in Oklahoma: Father driving float accidentally runs over son at Fourth of July parade

If only there was a good guy with a car....

Too soon?

Comment by Raine on 07/04/2013 21:49:33
Quote by livingonli:
Off to work and it looks like another Met game going long

time and a half -- rinse and repeat.


Comment by Raine on 07/04/2013 23:53:12
Gonna post this here -- for future reference:

With all this recent hoopla about the n-word (via Paula Deen) and “cracker" (via the Trayvon Martin case and/or racist Paul Deen apologists), here’s a video that gets to the heart of why they aren’t equivalent terms.
I’m glad the black fellow said “nigger (where did you get this car)". I’m so tired of hearing the hate used daily against us sanitized with kind-sounding euphemisms.

And although I’m not a Tim Wise fan, these are times where he does use his white privilege to help - in providing a contrasting viewpoint, explaining it clearly, and then saying “that. is. white. privilege."
See, now, I remember talking about how older blacks are CONSTANTLY on the younger generation regarding What To Do When Stopped by The Police. I remember trying to convey how this is, and always has been, PART of black CULTURE in this country when Oscar Grant was executed on an LA subway platform. When a black Harvard Professor was beat-down and arrested in his own HOUSE, when Kimani Grey pulled up his pants in public and was shot to death by police who claimed he was ‘reaching for something’. I remember being asked if trying to explain ‘When Cops Approach You’ protocols to every, black, young man I come in contact with, was really necessary. I remember being told I was overreacting.

Whelp, here you have Levar Burton, AKA; Gordi LaForge, telling you that HE gave HIS son ‘The Talk’.

And you better, best, believe that Will Smith has had THE VERY SAME conversation with HIS son. AND Denzel Washington, AND Michael Jordan, AND Ice-T, AND Colin Powell, and, yes, even Michael Steele. Tim Wise is right on this count; White Privilege is never NEEDING to have this conversation with your sons. Or wishing that you had.


Comment by TriSec on 07/05/2013 02:05:27
Evening, folks. A fine day was had by all.

And without a national audience tonight, the Pops didn't have to "dumb down" the concert selections...we had a fine grouping of local talent...blues, folk, and even the dreaded country by our jingoistic Brown offspring. But she was competent at it.

Sorry you all missed it this year.